Sunday before last, Glenn Greenwald provided substantial pushback on the possibility of one-time George Tenet deputy John Brennan heading the CIA for the Obama Administration. Ten days later, Brennan withdrew his name from consideration, specifically citing a “firestorm” in the “liberal blogs” for blocking his ascent.
It’s not so much a victory for the blogosphere as it is a victory for transparency, openness, and the media—be it establishment or new—paying attention to the things that matter to America.
The Obama transition team might be vetting the heck out of prospective administration hires to make sure that they haven’t done anything embarrassing on a personal or financial level, but it is up to blogs and other media professionals to vet our next government for things that embarrass us as a nation. That means torture, that means rendition, that means completely mishandling and exploiting the threat of terrorism.
Only with a full airing and open discussion of the viewpoints of potential Obama teammates can we really get the change we voted for, the change we deserve.
Only hours later, word got out that President Elect Obama would retain the services of Bush Defense Secretary Robert Gates, at least for the foreseeable future.
On Tuesday evening, Jane appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show to raise doubts about the pick because it hinted at a continuation (an escalation?) of failed tactics in the Afghan theater—which it most certainly does.
However, that is only one part of the problem with this non-pick pick.
Gates, of course, was already covered with the stink of Iran Contra when he was nominated to head the CIA by President Reagan in 1987. So covered, in fact, he had to withdraw from consideration. Four years later, after a report from the panel investigating Iran Contra found that Gates had lied to investigators about what he knew and when he knew it, but that his lies did not rise to the level that warranted prosecution, Daddy Bush re-nominated Gates for DCI. It was a long, contentious confirmation hearing, but Gates lied his way through it—again contradicting the findings in the Iran Contra report.
All of that is to say that Robert Gates is no straight shooter. He is a self-serving liar who has always put his own image and career ahead of duty, honor, and country. There is no reason for a President Obama to expect anything different from the DoD version of Gates just because he is in a different job, or because he is reportedly building his dream house for a much anticipated retirement.
Further, Gates does not really represent “competence.” As Glenn Greenwald recently observed, you can’t really separate competence and ideology:
[I]sn’t competence determined, at least in part, by ideology? For instance, isn’t someone’s support for the Iraq War — the most consequential political issue of the last decade, at least — a negative reflection on that person’s judgment, competence and expertise, just as someone’s opposition to that war is a positive reflection on those attributes? How can selecting only pro-war Cabinet members and advisers be justified on the grounds of "competence" — as though one’s support for the War has nothing to do with competence?
If you want to competently re-focus US foreign policy away from the interventionist model, you have to appoint people at the very top who buy into your new approach. Just because Gates has appeared relatively rational when compared with his predecessor, Don Rumsfeld, does not mean that he represents a shift in strategic thinking. If he did, we would have seen a drawdown of our presence in Iraq, and far less reliance on reckless, immoral, and counterproductive aerial bombing in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Leave it to the careerists to provide the continuity—the folks at the top need a vision. We want something more than technocrats; the moment calls for something more than technocrats.
Additionally, since the Truman Administration, we’ve only had three Secretaries of Defense that were Democrats. Democratic Presidents need to promote the idea that there is a liberal point of view on military engagement. If we keep promoting Republicans to this post, we are going to keep getting advice shaped by their worldview.
The left—or even the center-left—should do a better job of promoting their military minds. Perhaps this community needs to produce more leading voices, but there are certainly enough liberal thinkers in this field to provide more than enough potential staff for top jobs at the Pentagon.
Related posts:
- DADT: Gates Open to Opening Gates?
- Gates and Crowley Need to Lead in Wake of Big Media Failure
- Obama, Gates, and the Thin Blue Line
- Obama Tries to Suffocate Ridiculous Gates Controversy with Soothing Blanket of Words, Common Sense
- Brennan Provides Gonzales-Like Obfuscation on Illegal Surveillance Program





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Welcome to the Lake Greg.
count me among the disappointed for the reasons you and Jane outlined. Magical thinking had me seeing Tony Zinni and Barack Obama as made for each other
If you cast a vote for Obama, you knew you were sentencing countless more innocents from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Iraq to their deaths. Gate’s seals the deal well into the future… we are and will continue to be a nation of war criminals.
And thank you, Gregg, for reminding us all about Gates Iran Contra connections.
Admiral Fallon…..who nearly single handedly stopped Cheney’s drive to WWIII. Now THAT’S a guy we could do business with.
As US citizens, I’m afraid we all carry a collective karma wrt Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.
Or, do you think people who voted for someone other than Obama have a Get Out Of Hell Free card?
No snark. Real question.
PS, I never felt regret about the times I’ve voted for Nader.
the time period seems to be a year or so fer gates.
There is only one person I trust in the Bush Administration and that is Robert Gates. Although Gate inherited probably the 2nd hardest job in American history (Obama gets the 1st), i feel he has acted in a manner that was in Americas best interest. I can not prove it but I beleive he is the reason we have not attacked Iran. As to Brennen he is a suspected war criminal. I say suspected because he deserves his day in court, unlike the people who were rendered and tortured in Gitmo. We need to make a statement in the CIA and to the World that commiting war crimes are not rewarded anymore in the United States.
agreed. gates is/was merely a functionary, imo. he can and will get us out when bama says so.
the 47% have no regrets either. they mean well just like the shrub. ignorance is bliss, ya know.
I have a lot of respect for what Gates has been able to do, quietly, in a culture of war=good.
Right. And, knowledge is power?
me too. most on this site feel dumped on re: gates.
Nope. Fallon just stopped the Iran attack because he thought US didn’t have enough military resources. He said something to the effect that: when we’re ready, we’ll crush them [Iran]. No doing bidness with him.
Back to cooking.
I’m OK with Gates. He was the only adult in the Bush “administration”. Besides, these are tricky times, what with the “security agreement” Iraq seems hell bent on signing al Sadr not withstanding. GAD! another 3years and how many billions to Halliburton et al. How WILL we pay this bill?
I ‘d sure like to get out of the whole mess before…….well, we ARE bankrupt, aren’t we?
well knowledge and money is power in politics. got ta have both. that’s why we need to take the money from em. somehow.
I know a young woman who will begin her six-month deployment (Air Force) to Afghanistan on Monday. I am just sick about it, though she did enlist herself.
I really hope that “supporting our mission there” does not mean more air strikes on civilians.
Whatcha making there? pumkin pie? YUM!
1,838 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Greg Levine:
I hear you, Brother Levine, but I’m wonderin’ whether er not Gates might not be used as a stabilizer with the brass until Obama ken get ‘em sorted out and the Joint Chiefs cleaned up and the exit from Iraq opened. It seems ta me that Obama has an explosive situation ta negotiate, 58 years of military-industrial infrastructure to dismantle and a half century of secret police bureucracy to disarm. I am reminded of what happened ta JFK when he threatened these folks in 1962-63…I think Obama is quite aware of the 3-dimensional chess he’s playin’ ta deal with the collapse of the entire national security state structure and mentality while negotiating our way though the collapse of the old political economy.
I don’t think Obama is unaware of what he’s dealin’ with…he may have been a year er so ago, but he isn’t anymore.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS THING ISN’T GUNNA HAPPEN OVER NIGHT!!
i just dont get the part that says we can do in afghanistan what the british and the soviets/russians couldnt do. and our logistics train makes the russians look like doing TNG next door.
the place is a rats nest with rocks. makes the tunnels in vietnam look almost friendly.
and, in the end, like all those places–algeria, vietnam, inja, pakistan, south africa–you have to go home and leave it to the people who actually live there.
that IS what i believe, sir.
And, let’s not forget the very powerful “Options”. Maybe that is why so many here are cynical about some of Obama’s cabinet picks. I understand that there may be a short list of folks with experience, but I think that the list is longer than what is currently being utilized.
But, I’m just a blond housewife in Sylmar. Don’t know much.
the us is slow ta learn that lesson in afg, i’m afraid. mebe our troubles @ home will take top priority. one can hope.
As I understand what is in SOFA it says we will be out by 2011 not that we can’t have significant draw-downs before then. If it commits a significant troop presence then it would be a treaty and congress would need to approve it.
The term “Liberal Blogosphere” is used by the mainstream media in just the same way they use the term “Conspiracy Theorists.” Its use is intended to demean the messenger, and thereby, the message.
The blogosphere is neither liberal or conservative. It simply exists. We are ALL Americans, and we are all being ripped off by the banksters looting our treasury and distorting out electoral process.
Its time for ALL OF US to begin defining the mainstream media for what it is… The mouthpiece of the Ministry Of Propaganda. It’s time for all of us AMERICANS to put the mainstream media on notice…
i’ll bet the list is longer. but, as i have said, you need to go to the belly of the beast fer technical ability then lead them properly. don’t think a bunch of naderites would be wise at this point. imagine gridlock that you have never seen before. no. we need a gradual trans.
The FBI and CNN are bringing out the fear factor the day before Thanksgiving.
F… off. I am going to have Thanksgiving with the tv turned OFF!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..Nz57is0NUE
ya could dye yer hair? that will give ya 10 points right there. :)
I don’t know.. but I do know if there is a maker to meet beyond my own conscience.. I will be able to face her with more than lip service that i did not vote for the guy who promised a surge in Afghanistan.
Militarily.. Obama and Gates staying in Afghanistan strikes me as dumber (and just as evil) than Bush Jr invading Iraq.
I hear you. I did not vote for Nader this round. I can imagine the gridlock. Our country is at a very critical juncture this time.
Maybe we were before too, but maybe I was too young and idealistic then to realize. :)
I don’t see why AQ would bother to stage a risky attack. By all normative measures, they’re winning shrub’s non-war.
Obama up talking about his econ advisory board CSPAN
bama on teevee right now.
Thanks for the answer. As a people watcher, I’m always intrigued by others motivations.
I believe yours are sincere and authentic.
Gates functions under the same moral compass as Bush, the difference being that he is smarter (not hard to do). Down here in Texas, we really know our walking pathologies like Phil Gramm, Bush and Gates. Only problem is, our surfeit of dimwits keeps on electing them. I’m really surprised at how easily so many accept Gates with a wink and a nod and a firm refusal to see that having lost some sense of morality is what got us into our current foreign messes. If you want realpolitik, sound the horn for that criminal Kissinger. Don’t settle for substitutes.
How do you know I don’t?
(Acutally, just a little high lighting- I am a natural.)
10 pts here or there wouldn’t make much difference.
Don’t I get at least 15 for all the educating I get here?
I was thinking about that this morning that I couldn’t come up with a lot of good Democratic candidates because Democratic Presidents keep choosing Republicans and conservatives to fill most of the civilian positions at the Pentagon so there isn’t much of a bench of candidates from the usual sources.
As I wrote here yesterday I don’t see Gates as a benign choice. He has kept us stuck in Iraq and floundering in Afghanistan. He has overseen increased instability of Pakistan. He has done virtually nothing about piracy around Somalia, despite the fact that our navy is much less overextended compared to the Army and Marines and despite the fact that we have close relations with Ethiopia and a covert ops base in Djibouti. He has also done nothing to curb the waste of billions in the military’s procurement programs. And finally he has continued Rumsfeld’s efforts to have the military dominate US intelligence.
So put me down as not a supporter of Gates.
OT from post by Carolab on HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..46542.html
In its latest power play, on October 3, 2008, the Fed acquired the ability to pay interest to its member banks on the reserves the banks maintain at the Fed. Reuters reported October 3:
”The U.S. Federal Reserve gained a key tactical tool from the $700 billion financial rescue package signed into law on Friday that will help it channel funds into parched credit markets. Tucked into the 451-page bill is a provision that lets the Fed pay interest on the reserves banks are required to hold at the central bank.”3
If the Fed”s money comes ultimately from the taxpayers, that means we the taxpayers are paying interest to the banks on the banks ”own reserves” reserves maintained for their own private profit. These increasingly controversial encroachments on the public purse warrant a closer look at the central banking scheme itself. Who owns the Federal Reserve, who actually controls it, where does it get its money, and whose interests is it serving?
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..8-216.html
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Not sure if they are paying interest or what rate but that could be a reason for not loaning…if you are getting risk free interest from the people that are printing the money.
sure, but +15 here and -10 fer hair is a net 5. :) got ta go. see ya.
Citizen demi:
We simply hafta conserve entropy and understand that Obama is negotiating a nuclear minefield all by himself and we hafta keep ‘im sharp but not turn the lights out on ‘im…he is our leader and we need ta let ‘im know where we are and where we want ta go but the alternative is unthinkable for everyone!
Gates may smell of Contra, but as much as anyone, he prevented Bush from attacking Iran, which Sy Hersh believed on credible grounds was in the cards for this summer or autumn. That was a major achievement, forced on Bush, to be sure, by Poppy, but saved our bacon just the same.
What I think matters more in the short term are the undersecretaries of defence. Gates was saddled with a lot of Cheny appointments. They have to go. My friend David Chu probably has to go as well. He’s honest as they come, but was the responsible bureaucrat in the poor treatment of vets returning from Iraq and the mess at Walter Reed.
Gates will give Obama an independent view of our military stance. That is all to the good. But the actual operation of the Defence leviathan is in the hands of the Deputy and Undersecretaries of Defence. That group has got to be changed.
I hold out no hope that defense spending will be included in the line-by-line cutting that Obama promises to do.
He’ll do nothing to diminish the bloated U.S. military budget, eager to avoid animosity from the Pentagon and defense contractors.
I hear ya. We could also say Bush is doing what he said AQ wanted to do, breaking us financially.
Oh, yes, I agree. We have a difficult job too. Which is why we are trying to pay attention, educate ourselves and work together when we feel our voices need to be heard.
Tightrope Blogging?
Robert Gates is a Scowcroft buddy — and like Scowcroft, he urged the first Bush not to push on to Baghdad in 1991. (Scowcroft, you might recall, was one of the strongest voices opposing Bush the Younger’s invading Iraq in 2002.) He will get us out of Iraq — in fact, he’s already started pulling troops out of Iraq’s cities, before the SOFA is signed.
Gates was and is so hated by the Rumsfeld-Cheney PNAC Platoon that his being picked to replace Rummy had to be kept under wraps until it was too late for Rummy’s clique to do anything about it.
Actually, our Navy is overextended in terms of manpower — witness the “dirt sailors” sent to do land duty in Iraq instead of on a ship or in a sub. We have the ships, but we don’t have the warm bodies to run them.
i agree. stupid and dangerous.
Ten days later, Brennan withdrew his name from consideration, specifically citing a “firestorm” in the “liberal blogs” for blocking his ascent.
No, he did not cite “liberal blogs.” Read his letter. I find the blog triumphalism about Brennan to be a little overblown here. I adore Glenn Greenwald and am sure his opposition played a material role, but I can’t believe there wasn’t more to it than that.
the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
Who should be Secretary of Defense under Obama when he takes office? Please name names.
I don’t get too upset with any of these picks- as long as the people are competent. If the prez is strong- HE will be deciding policy and he needs a team of people who are expert implementers.
In the case of Gates, there is the added benefit potentially of helping to placate the right about a military withdrawal. The last one was done by a gooper and poisoned politics for forty years or so.
There’s still something unsettling about keeping a Bush guy for defense- but I suppose we’ll get over it.
Wesley Clark.
Bob in HI
Eli has a new post up: Michael Savage’s Big Gay Apocalypse
I had an anxiety attack when I read “Brennan” and my pea brain understood “Bremmer.”
I thought if Obama was just barely stopped from choosing Bremmer to head up CIA, well, that is the apocalypse right now. Thank God it was only Brennan…
My magical thinking had Chuck Hagel as Defense Secretary. But so far, I see Hagel forgotten, Richardson all but forgotten, a bone tossed to Thomas Daschle, Crash McNasty honored within the first week or two as a “valuable, necessary component,” Lieberman triumphantly raised up on the shoulders of the Senate Dems, and Sec. of Stare offered to the (coy) last person anyone had bet on.
It’s been a hard fall from November 5 to now. We’ve been through 8 years of horror, but President-elect Obama isn’t thinking about us right now. He’s forgotten that we aren’t an ordinary electorate, but a bruised and bristling, battered and tortured lot (like Tweak on Southpark x-infinity). Oh well, it’s all going to take hard work! And the biggest part of that is swallowing yet more nasty surprises, lots and lots of ‘em, as we hobble along on our crutches into yet another age of resounding face-slaps, here on the Island of Like it or Lump it, in the middle of the Sea of the Unexplained.
We have us a new Decider!
Yeah, I remember now, Brennan (Medal of Freedom?) isn’t Bremmer (Blackwater facilitator, royalty, worse-than-Saddam), but he’s bad enough. It’s apocalyptic that Brennan was considered. A-P-O-C-A-L-Y-P-T-I-C.
I have a son in the military–one tour in Iraq, next tour coming up 2009. I convinced him not to vote for McCain, that was the best I could do with a young man exposed to so many lies, so insulated from his country. I convinced another son (a Hillary supporter) to lighten up, get out there and vote Obama for the sake of his brother. I convinced a third son (an Obama supporter from the get-go) to work on his friends in Missouri every day, and, busy though he is, he knocked himself out.
I’m visiting my military son next month, and I’ve decided I’m trough trying to convince him of Obama’s rightness and greatness. I haven’t got enough leg left to stand on. Besides, Obama doesn’t need me anymore. I’m going to admit to my son that he was right: they are all alike.
Because honey, they are.
Love,
Carly
Still living with Lieberman’s filthy campaign lies,
A lone ex-repug in the Ozarks…
ECHO ECHO.
Would he have more credibility in following Obama’s direction than Gates?
Eureka Springs? Cool. Call me uh…a few miles out of Mountain Home, lol.
And, I happen to agree with you, too.
President elect Obama
I applaud the reporter that you slammed today. He asked the obvious and highly relevant question. Given your choices for your leadership team, what would make your supporters (us) believe that anything is likely to change. Your rhetoric is great but does not appear to be supported by your actions, at least so far.
You buckled to political pressure on FISA and amnesty.
You are in the process of walking back your commitment to bring our forces home in 16 months.
You are appointing politicians who do not support your agenda to offices of high power and visibility. Some of them have a very heavy load of anti progressive baggage. They include Gates who is responsible for mismanagement and anti humanitarian trends in the military.
You are responsible for Joe Lieberman being confirmed as chair of the most important committee of the Senate for investigating the Executive branch, even in the face of his overwhelming incompetence and lickspittle performance under the last administration.
To balance all of this, we have only your assurance that you personally will be running the government. While I personally admire your intent, I am beginning to question your judgment. Pray God that my doubts are unfounded, but you must continue to earn trust rather than to take it for granted.
One other thing: Notice the increasingly positive reporting from the MSM Obama is receiving with each new day! Some of them are quivery-lipped, almost tearful in their smiling praise of him now.
I guess I can quit boycotting CNN. Candy Crowley and the gang are on my side now!
:D