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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s Eric Schmidt And A Brave New World</title>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738934</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can you tell me what qualifies any of the authors at TheTruthAboutCars to say anything about the UAW and job banks?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell, it’s more anti-union bullsh*t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you tell me what qualifies any of the authors at TheTruthAboutCars to say anything about the UAW and job banks?</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, it’s more anti-union bullsh*t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738889</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Job Banks need to go&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/uaw-job-bank-not-gone-yet-but-its-almost-gone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c.....most-gone/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Job Banks need to go</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/uaw-job-bank-not-gone-yet-but-its-almost-gone/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c&#8230;..most-gone/</a></p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738877</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The main US export is dollars (either paper or electronic)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main US export is dollars (either paper or electronic)</p>
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		<title>By: ally</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738876</link>
		<dc:creator>ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Globatrons like Schmitt. He doesn’t need a country, he fantasizes, only a place to put his money.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great Comment. I wish I heard more people talking about the “Hyper-Outsourcing” of not just Manufacturing Jobs, but All types of Jobs that left the US in the last 10 years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Globatrons like Schmitt. He doesn’t need a country, he fantasizes, only a place to put his money.”</p>
<p>Great Comment. I wish I heard more people talking about the “Hyper-Outsourcing” of not just Manufacturing Jobs, but All types of Jobs that left the US in the last 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738875</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s enough money out there to force price into the next part of the doubled demand curve — wouldn’t have to boost it to $4/gallon as speculators did in July.  The pain would be felt deeply if they pushed it only a dollar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the entire supply line only needs one or two production disruptions to punctuate the point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s enough money out there to force price into the next part of the doubled demand curve — wouldn’t have to boost it to $4/gallon as speculators did in July.  The pain would be felt deeply if they pushed it only a dollar.</p>
<p>And the entire supply line only needs one or two production disruptions to punctuate the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738874</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That might actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_streetcar_scandal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pay a corporate karmic debt&lt;/a&gt;, if the auto industry got into mass transit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That might actually <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_streetcar_scandal" rel="nofollow">pay a corporate karmic debt</a>, if the auto industry got into mass transit.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738872</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe somebody didn’t want gas prices to go any higher and compel the torches and pitchforks to be brought to bear before January 20?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gasoline prices aren’t going higher for reasons that are beyond the control of the Saudis.  Speculative money has dried up and the worldwide recession is decreasing demand relative to supply.  Oil producers are in a classic bind.  They need to pump as much as they can to keep the cash flows on which their economies depend going but doing so at this point further depresses prices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe somebody didn’t want gas prices to go any higher and compel the torches and pitchforks to be brought to bear before January 20?</p>
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<p>Gasoline prices aren’t going higher for reasons that are beyond the control of the Saudis.  Speculative money has dried up and the worldwide recession is decreasing demand relative to supply.  Oil producers are in a classic bind.  They need to pump as much as they can to keep the cash flows on which their economies depend going but doing so at this point further depresses prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738870</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It might be useful to take a look at the European experience in propping up declining industries, of which the steel and coal complex was the most important, and automobiles second.  The picture is mixed.  From a purely dollars and sense standpoint it didn’t work; but from a human standpoint is probably was better than the alternative, which was to let them fail.  We saw how this worked in Poland in the early 1990s.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With the coming Depression, there are going to be fewer cars sold no matter what.  There’s nothing that can be done about it.  It would be nice if Detroit could get into the tram business, which has a future if the government decides to subsideize urban transit systems.  Schmidt is analytically right, but heartless or at best thoughtless.  The people losing their jobs need something more than a hand-out.  They need new jobs, which don’t grow on trees.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be useful to take a look at the European experience in propping up declining industries, of which the steel and coal complex was the most important, and automobiles second.  The picture is mixed.  From a purely dollars and sense standpoint it didn’t work; but from a human standpoint is probably was better than the alternative, which was to let them fail.  We saw how this worked in Poland in the early 1990s.  </p>
<p>With the coming Depression, there are going to be fewer cars sold no matter what.  There’s nothing that can be done about it.  It would be nice if Detroit could get into the tram business, which has a future if the government decides to subsideize urban transit systems.  Schmidt is analytically right, but heartless or at best thoughtless.  The people losing their jobs need something more than a hand-out.  They need new jobs, which don’t grow on trees.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738869</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great coment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;China manufactures components for weapons the U.S. uses to blow up things and kill people.  The main U.S. exports are hubris and death.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great coment.</p>
<p>China manufactures components for weapons the U.S. uses to blow up things and kill people.  The main U.S. exports are hubris and death.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/25/34264/#comment-1738865</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Schmidt is a Globatron.  Independently wealthy by any standard other than Bill Gates’, the “manufacturing” he envisions, the products that power his business and make what he sells useable around the globe, are largely made in China.  The technology, for now, may lie elsewhere, in the US, or in some Caribbean or European tax haven.  But like Olympic pairs skating, the two can never be far apart for long.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Manufacturing is a web of activities.  It is actually making a product, of course.  It is also the design of that manufacturing process, its machines, software, people, and how they work together to turn materials into products people can and will buy.  It encompasses continuing modifications to that system, constant tweaking of product and component materials and design.  That, then, involves sourcing and cost information, which leads to distribution and marketing.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The most successful manufacturers, including Japanese car companies, understand how interrelated such things are.  Cut out manufacturing from a company’s skill set, and you completely alter business ecology.  Outsource it poorly and you alter it more completely and irreversibly.  For those not having the Wal-Mart’s sumo wrestler’s leverage, that can be fatal to productivity and profitability.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The US economy is outsourcing manufacturing in a mad, lemming-like rush to outsource apparent cost, damn the consequences.  It is outsourcing much of it to China: its prime supplier, its prime creditor, its prime economic competitor, its budding military competitor.  That will permanently alter, lower, our leverage, our ability to compete and to sustain our standard of living.  Except, that is, for Globatrons like Schmitt.  He doesn’t need a country, he fantasizes, only a place to put his money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schmidt is a Globatron.  Independently wealthy by any standard other than Bill Gates’, the “manufacturing” he envisions, the products that power his business and make what he sells useable around the globe, are largely made in China.  The technology, for now, may lie elsewhere, in the US, or in some Caribbean or European tax haven.  But like Olympic pairs skating, the two can never be far apart for long.  </p>
<p>Manufacturing is a web of activities.  It is actually making a product, of course.  It is also the design of that manufacturing process, its machines, software, people, and how they work together to turn materials into products people can and will buy.  It encompasses continuing modifications to that system, constant tweaking of product and component materials and design.  That, then, involves sourcing and cost information, which leads to distribution and marketing.  </p>
<p>The most successful manufacturers, including Japanese car companies, understand how interrelated such things are.  Cut out manufacturing from a company’s skill set, and you completely alter business ecology.  Outsource it poorly and you alter it more completely and irreversibly.  For those not having the Wal-Mart’s sumo wrestler’s leverage, that can be fatal to productivity and profitability.  </p>
<p>The US economy is outsourcing manufacturing in a mad, lemming-like rush to outsource apparent cost, damn the consequences.  It is outsourcing much of it to China: its prime supplier, its prime creditor, its prime economic competitor, its budding military competitor.  That will permanently alter, lower, our leverage, our ability to compete and to sustain our standard of living.  Except, that is, for Globatrons like Schmitt.  He doesn’t need a country, he fantasizes, only a place to put his money.</p>
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