Although, apparently Martin does have the keen eye of a stalker:

GOPers hire people for that. But is the GOP paying Private Detectives to follow Obama or is the GOP MSM doing it. This is scary.
The idea of a High GOP person going to a Chicago neighborhood to follow Obama with all the Secret Service around is funny.
Maybe a reporter assigned to Obama is following him to close. Obama should find out who and get the jerk fired.

Is Mark speaking for Time? Is Mark trying to get a gig on Fox News?

Good morning, Attaturk. Thanks for the post.

Digby, just bein Digby, uses mark halprin to take apart mark halprin. My disgust for assholes like halprin continues to grow well beyond the previously imagined capacity.

On the three Sundays since his election, Obama has instead used his free time to get in workouts at a Chicago gym.

Irrespective the fundamental inability of idiots like halprin to conceptualize, religion and spirituality are not the same thing.

From Teh Guardian reporting:

Sark gets a democratic choice:
for the Barclay brothers or against them
Tycoons’ man takes on the islands’ seigneur, as contest for the final feudal state in the western world turns bitter

Steven Morris
guardian.co.uk, Monday November 24 2008 00.01 GMT

For the last 450 years, Sark has been a feudal state, the last in the western world. But the law has changed, mainly at the prompting of the Barclay brothers, who live in a castle on an even smaller island called Brecqhou a few hundred metres off Sark. The reform means Sark’s “seigneur”, the feudal lord, is being stripped of many powers and rights and for the first time a largely elected parliament is being formed.

Nominations for “conseillers”, the MPs, close this week and Sark’s 473 electors go to the polls early next month.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2…..-democracy

Be careful, be very careful, that George Bush doesn’t discover this and bring democracy there. ;-)

Good morning, pups. It’s just Kristol today. Mr. Cohen and Prof. Krugman are off today, so Silly Billy gets to “shine” alone. He says we should “Admit We Don’t Know,” and that the markets are spiraling down, and our leading experts don’t have much of a clue as to what to do. Go ahead, read it if you want to… I’d crawl back into bed if I didn’t have to go to work.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. We’re struggling to stay above freezing this morning, at 34°, and I fought the Siamese all night for the duvet. Stay warm, and have a good day.

Good morning Marion, sounds like someone has discovered the obvious, thanks for reading and reporting. Stay warm, a two kitty night? You do know that work is the curse of the drinking class. ;-)

I don’t remember any footage of George & Laura Bush coming out of or going into a church on Sunday. Of course, as we all know, it’s okay to not go to church if you are a neocon.

Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the MSM and the conservatives hounded the Obamas out of their church due to Rev. Wright? I know my main concern this morning, what with the total tanking of the economy, is whether or not the president-elect went to church. Of course if he HAD gone to church then the discussion would be about why he chooses to attend such a non-mainstream, unorthodox, out-of-the-mainstream church in the first place. Disgusting.

Use Politico pipe filters if you want to blow that smoke to just the right place.

Try Politico — “They’re Medicated”

Amen, sister! *g*

All of the financial institutions appear to be under and worth nothing or worse – in debt for staggering sums. And for years these guys have been paying “shareholders” dividends and taking huge salaries and benies.

Beltway doesn’t want capitalism to end this way and so they are printing money, selling the store to anyone, including the future generations to keep this idiotic system going. It’s questionable if any of this will work. Have you seen any up trends in anything but foreclosures, bankruptcies, going out of buisness signs and unemployment lines.

At some point some adults will have to step forward and set up a new economic system and rid us of the “investments” everyone seems to feel they need for their “future”. When that notion is dead an buried wall street no more, people with excess money taxed and the wealth of the nation used for real work, and producing sustainable products and infrastructure. Growth is not a viable economic concept on a finite planet.

Growth is not a concept on a finite planet.

And this is the underlying meme of capitalism – never ending growth. Interest, bubbles, appreciation and so forth – all non starters.

The collapse will happen on Obi’s watch, though he didn’t cause it. Will be step up and declare that the old is just not workable and a completely new paradigm must rule – sustainability? Or will be kick the ball down the road with more debt and try to flush the system with fiat currency to pretend that it can come back to life?

Any bets?

Pre-budget report to include 45% top rate for those earning more than £150,000

About time we learned something from the British

As for obama not going to a religious tax free building for three weeks, good and here is hoping that he never goes again

And they ever, ever, ever saw their hero John McCain worship in a church?
Honestly, after that campaign, I am surprised he didn’t just crawl into bed to sleep for a couple of weeks. My biggest satisfaction is that, after the Clinton years when Bill and Hill were regularly accused of murdering someone, the big attack on Obama is that he missed church service.

Bit of a shock seeing rummy in the times instead of Rich but I have now found two uses for the NYT. The crossword and as fire starter in my wood stove. 21 degrees in NH

Well, that’s about how often W. went to church during the past eight years. Like never, unless somebody died, like Reagan, or prompting his utterly otiose appearance at the memorial service at Virginia Tech.

And Johnny Mac was unclear on just what sect of Protestantism he belonged to. He grew up nominally Episcopalian, and in recent years during his courtship of Crazy Base World, claimed to be a Baptist. But unless I’m wrong, doesn’t one have to actually be, you know, baptized to be a Baptist? He hasn’t been.

Well, that’s about how often W. went to church during the past eight years. Like never, unless somebody died, like Reagan, or prompting his utterly otiose appearance at the memorial service at Virginia Tech.

And Johnny Mac was unclear on just what sect of Protestantism he belonged to. He grew up nominally Episcopalian, and in recent years during his courtship of Crazy Base World, claimed to be a Baptist. But unless I’m wrong, doesn’t one have to actually be, you know, baptized to be a Baptist? He hasn’t been.

Has such carryon been shown to prevent the brown streaks in one’s knickers?

What’s the temp like in your neck of the state?

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed George & Laura Bush not going to church. As far as McCrazy is concerned, I’ve never seen him as religious. He’s a lot like Bush…only religious when the camera is turned on.

They do have a good crossword. I don’t get the dead trees edition here, I rely on the Savannah Daily Disappointment to serve its purpose under the litter box.

I don’t care if they go or don’t as much as I do care about the hypocrisy. And all of them wreak from it.

otiose

Ah, sweet! Le mot juste!

MSM is just looking for a chink. Ever since Reagan they have served as ‘gate-keepers’ to the public, who can’t be counted on to understand the unvarnished facts of government. There was another whiff of that attitude yesterday morning on NPR. Can’t quite recall the context, but it was obvious that certain members of the Fourth Estate think that they are the real king-makers of this nation. It’s going to be great watching them become disabused of that fantasy. Bring it on!

Good Morning Attaturk and Firedogs,

saw that Halperin hissy fit earlier – glad to see both Attaturk and Digby on the case . . .

Chunyang – actually McCain claims to have been raised in one xtian sect but is said to have joined another (that of his wife and kids) several years ago – with spotty attendance and has yet to be baptized as per that sect’s tenets – Halperin would have teased a series out of it had it been Obama – The Unattended Font: Day 12

Good Morning, My discust at Saxby grows daily. His ads are misleading, lying and terrible. I swear by tomorrow he will run the Osama ad. Does the guy not stand for anything.. Why Martin doesn’t call him a f**king liar (maybe not the f**king part) is beyond me. grrrrr!

owe ya a Mimosa :D

See Attaturk, this proves Obama is a heathen

A neocon walking into a church has to worry about bursting into flames.

Has anyone spotted Obama sneaking into a mosque?

Obama’s working out instead of talking to an invisible sky fairy? Damn, he really DOES represent me!

It also makes a wonderful bird cage liner.

*brushing biscuit crumbs off my big thick homeknitted sweater*
I present you with the WJ lineup:

7:30am – Charles Hurt, New York Post, Washington Bureau Chief
8:00am – Susan Tompor, Detroit Free Press, Personal Finance Columnist
8:30am – Larry Kudlow, CNBC’s “Kudlow & Company”, Host
9:30am – Thomas Omestad, U.S. News & World Report, Diplomatic Correspondent

any chance the Big Sugar questions are hurting him?

He won’t answer questions pertaining to Big Sugar. The AJC has had scant coverage of the issue and Marion can probably answer the question about coverage in the Savannah paper.

For the past seven years (8) we’ve lived with one lie after another ie. I talk to God and he told me to help Israel no matter what. Invade a sovereign nation kill a million. Spoil the earth running rough shod with their Hummers.
As I read the bible God abandons those nation or with hold his grace till they get it right. Why aren’t the clowns on wall street in sackcloth and covering their head with ashes. Why does it seem the next president intends to go on killing?
God damn this country and it’s militarism.

Well, I guess I better finish my coffee quickly & get on to other chores. That lineup sucks. (Thanks for the warning.)

now I’m sorry I put it up.
Paulson & Co. quick to jump in for any Wall Street hand that’s out, what about Detroit Street?

Not so good in my aquarium though.

Juan Cole reports serious problems with Obama Afghanistan policy:

Monday, November 24, 2008

Obama: More Aid, Troops for Afghanistan;
Stewart: Don’t Put in More Troops

http://www.juancole.com/

Citi group has now gone from being one of the worst predatory lenders to the worst predatory borrower. Is it Jan 21st yet…….

Elliot… don’t you get it… Wall Street financiers and bankers run the show. When they can plunder without the government, they will and demand to be left alone..and get it since critters are in the take.

When they screw up, they go to the critters they own and say.. dad, we crashed the car… I need a new one for a date tonight… and they get it.

As long as critters are owned by big money they will do the bidding of capital. This is a clear as the nose on your face.

Ha! The event Hal2000perin excreted that nonsense was put on by Politico and reported on by Politico. It’s disturbing to see Politico still treated as legit after all their massive mistakes and flat-out false “reporting.”

Of course that was all part of the plan though. Politico is simply an attempt to extend BigMoney message control into the New Media, and I’d say they’re succeeding so far, mainly by huge investments right out of the gate. They sponsored some of the Prez debates and they seem to have some deal with Yahoo News among others. Gives them completely undeserved credibility.

Has anyone seen articles about Politico’s finances? I’d be curious to see who’s funding them, and if they’re another one of these operations that loses money year after year, and exists just to push ideology on the electorate.

Get ready for it. This dance between “Flowers” Martin and Hal2000, and the USC event are signs of some coordination and tell me that they’re kicking the tires on the Obama take-down vehicle. We’ll need to have Obama’s back. The idea that the “Press” had a pro-Obama slant and thus an anti-McInsane slant is laughable. IMO that statement is so ridiculous that anyone who utters it should be subject to termination from their jobs.

Of course, around here at least, we know these “reporters” aren’t there to pursue truth. They’re there to push BigMoney storylines on the public, and they’ll probably keep getting promoted instead.

KKKareful there, you’ll be sent to the corner with Rev. Wright without supper. /s

Kristolnacht titles an article “Admit We Don’t Know”?!?! Too funny.

That sums up his whole career as the Man Who Is Always Wrong.

Agreed about having Obama’s back. The best way is to take head on the phony “journalists” like Martin and Haleprin and the faux internet “sources” like Politico and Drudge. Their “credibility” always has to be challenged. Don’t let them get any kind of a foot in the door otherwise Obama and any kind of a progressive agenda is in peril.

McCain’s campaign was not about his agenda but about Obama. To his credit Obama ran on the issues that were important to him. By covering both campaigns equally, of course, Obama would be mentioned more. Maybe Halperin but examine that!!!

whoops.. Haperin better examine that!!!

Those westernized Al Qaeda at POLITICO can be very dangerous. Also the owners of POLITICO are very dangerous. The Allbritton family using Riggs bank did finance the 9-11 attacks. Have the Allbritton’s gone to church recently. Or perhaps they go to a mosque.

Newsweek reported that checks to “two Saudi students in the United States who provided assistance to two of the September 11 hijackers” may have come “from an account at Washington’s Riggs Bank in the name of Princess Haifa Al-Faisal, the wife of Saudi Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan.” This, and other details, were reportedly part of the bipartisan House-Senate Intelligence Committee investigation into the Saudi money flow after 9/11. Yet, instead of allowing the committee’s final report to be published in full, “Bush administration officials, led by Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller, have adamantly refused to declassify the evidence” surrounding the transactions.

must read from bernhard: Rubin’s Citigroup Bailout

Still hoping for change in the next administration?

The president-elect’s choices for his top economic advisers — Timothy F. Geithner as Treasury secretary, Lawrence H. Summers as senior White House economics adviser and Peter R. Orszag as budget director — are past protégés of Mr. Rubin, who held two of those jobs under President Bill Clinton. Even the headhunters for Mr. Obama have Rubin ties: Michael Froman, Mr. Rubin’s chief of staff in the Treasury Department who followed him to Citigroup, and James P. Rubin, Mr. Rubin’s son.

With this Citigroup bailout and the prospect of the incoming team of Wall Street gangsters, the chance of a default of the U.S. government on its debt are now higher than ever.

Swim’s up, special Lieberputz edition.

if we’re still following the ’90s playbook the purpose will not be to take down a president, it will be to distract us while all manner of rightwing policies are implemented. :(

“mentioned more” is a false metric to promote the “pro-Obama” lie. I’d say John-boy was not mentioned much later on because Paylin took all the headlines, which was also part of the BigMedia plan.

What negative McInsane stories rose to the level of Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers? Nothing comes even remotely close to these despite the fact John-boy has many more skeletons in his closet than Obama. They keep repeating this stuff TO THIS DAY even after said stories are completely debunked. Yeesh, we still have so far to go.

Halperin is approaching the hysterical stage of grief.

So far I am not at all impressed with his choices…. for anything. Just more of the same old same old DLC corporate bootlicking shysters.

i am sure he wonders who else can be ruined by the same people that probably have never set foot in a church in their life i am sure at some point they will shake of the fear of haters

If we exercise for three hours every Sunday, we live longer, better lives. If we just sit around in church listening to fairytales instead, we die from a cornucopia of diseases. Which do you think God wants us to do?

I PRAY Obama never goes back to church again. How can he attend any church without dissing every OTHER church, proving once and for all that religion is the greatest force for divisive evil on earth.

Religion is dead. Long live God’s greatest gift to mankind: REASON!

President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.
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Now that’s change we all can believe in.

Me too!