Fran Townsend has been peddling an alternate reality version of how Eric Holder came to OK the Marc Rich pardon.
Holder "got a last-minute phone call" from the Clinton White House to vet Rich, Townsend told CNN, where she is a contributor.
"He was put in a horrible position," Townsend said, adding that Holder was being criticized unfairly in the Rich matter.
The charitable view is that Ms. Townsend’s imagination has won some battle with her memory. The less charitable view is that her years in the Bush White House have caused her to adopt one of their more famous mottos, "Reality? We don’t need no stinkin’ reality, we make our own reality!"
While I never bought that story and had previously heard, via the Foley Square grapevine, that Holder had deliberately hidden the pardon application from USAO SDNY so they would not have an opportunity to protest, I did not know just how far his advocacy on behalf of Marc Rich, when he was supposed to be working on behalf of the American people, actually went.
In an OpEd piece in the Saturday NYTimes George Lardner, Jr. submits what appears to be an extraordinarily well researched history of the Holder involvement in trying to get extra special treatment for Marc Rich.
In 1999, Mr. Rich hired Jack Quinn, who had been Mr. Clinton’s White House counsel from 1995 to 1996, to help him advance his cause. The Rich team was still hoping to strike a deal with federal prosecutors in New York, who were in charge of the case. An e-mail message to Mr. Rich from one of his New York lawyers said that Mr. Quinn felt “he could convince Eric that it made sense to listen to the professors and that he could convince Eric to encourage Mary Jo to do the same.” The “professors” were two tax experts paid more than $96,000 for a study based solely on statements provided them by the Rich legal team; “Mary Jo” was Mary Jo White, the United States attorney in New York.
Holder reportedly told Quinn that SDNY’s position was ridiculous–an interesting comment coming from within the Justice Department, to say the least.
Mr. Holder told Mr. Quinn to write a letter to Ms. White with a copy to him, and promised to call her when it arrived. Mr. Holder then called Ms. White personally and, after that conversation, told Mr. Quinn she “didn’t sound like her guard was up.” But New York stood firm.
New York’s position was consistent with the written guidelines on pardons which do not allow pardons for people while they remain fugitives.
On Nov. 18, 2000, Mr. Quinn told Mr. Holder that Mr. Rich was going to go for a pardon, a step his team had been contemplating for months. After the conversation, Mr. Quinn told colleagues that Mr. Holder had advised him to “go straight to” the White House and that the “timing is good.”
What’s this you say? Go directly to the White House? Bypass the DOJ Office of Pardon Attorney? What an extraordinary thing for a high ranking DOJ official to say!
“The greatest danger lies with the lawyers,” Mr. Quinn wrote in an e-mail message to an aide to Mr. Rich, referring to the prosecutors in New York. “I have worked them hard and I am hopeful that E. Holder will be helpful to us.”
Well it turns out that the prosecutors in NY never got a chance to be a danger, because NO ONE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PARDON APPLICATION. You see, if the pardon application had gone to the Office of Pardon Attorney like a normal pardon, the Pardon Attorney would have, as per written procedure, solicited the opinion of the USAO which originated the case. Of course, Holder arranged for Marc Rich to bypass the Pardon Attorney and never told the US Attorney for SDNY that there was a pardon application in the air.
Under the rules governing pardon petitions — rules that were approved by Mr. Holder’s office — the views of United States attorneys “are given considerable weight” because of the “valuable insights” they have. And yet Mr. Holder did not consult Ms. White and her colleagues about the Rich pardon petition; they did not know of it until it had been granted.
-snip-
The people in the United States attorney’s office in New York weren’t the only ones surprised by Mr. Holder’s decision. Deborah Smolover, his top deputy for pardon cases, did not find out about the pardon for Mr. Rich until the White House called to inform her of it after midnight on Jan. 20. (Mr. Green won a pardon, too.) After the pardon was signed, Mr. Quinn has testified, Mr. Holder called him to commend him on “a very good job.” Mr. Holder also asked Mr. Quinn to consider hiring two former aides, one of whom had already contacted Mr. Quinn on Jan. 2 “at Holder’s suggestion.”
Go read the NYTimes piece. It’s quite the smackdown of Ms. Townsend’s fairy tale version.



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I don’t know, LHP — I think maybe we should just do what Obama wants, always. If he wants Holder, why should anyone stop it just because of Marc Rich and Chiquita?
now tp, you don’t really believe that. you took my line away.
have been rethinkin this issue after tp and bmaz told me some stuff about holder.
I’ll say it once and for all that I don’t give a damn about Marc Rich nor the allegedly controversial pardon given to him. Was the pardon Constitutional and legal? If so, then that’s that. Was it influence peddling that got him the pardon? A rhetorical question if there ever was one.
yes, legal in every way AND in the opinion of holder no crime was commited.
Actually Mr Holder does appear to be eminently qualified for a position at DoJ – under George W. Bush.
Under a Democratic President who campaigned on “Change You Can Believe In” with the task of cleaning up a dysfunctional DoJ after the politicization of the last eight years? Eh, not so much.
on the other hand, send that goddam holder to gitmo where he belongs!
jeebus chrispus… we been in thug city for 8 friggin’ years.
eric holder is jesus and tinkerbell all rolled into one in comparison to BushCo.
(but i know… i know… NOT GOOD ENUF)
So you’re content with “justice” being for sale to the highest bidder? Got it.
My bold why is a Bushie supporting this guy? That is never good.
bama may have to rethink this one. lhp says fbi would not be so bad fer holder. i had hoped fer a black man to be put there just bc. maybe we will have to settle for another white man in a suit.
Ugh. I’d naively bought the “last minute” Big Lie: thanks for educating me, looseheadprop.
Somewhere (American Lawyer?) I thought I recalled reading Quinn and Holder were personal friends…for me that somehow makes Holder’s year-long sabotage of DOJ policies even more toxic.
Based on the NYT article, does it appear that Holder’s actions in the Rich pardon violated criminal laws?
Reading Lardner’s article in the NYTimes, it’s clear Holder was working the pardon from the inside, advised Rich’s attorney to bypass the Office of the Pardon Attorney, and kept the New York US Attorney out of the loop. He contravened his own department’s procedures to ensure the pardon went like butter through a goose.
This pardon may have been constitutional and legal, but the procedures used to obtain it reflect very poorly on Mr Holder’s capability to restore trust and accountability at the Department of Justice. At a time when that department’s credibility is at an all-time low, the President-Elect should choose wisely. Mr Holder is not a wise choice.
Mark Rich’s crimes seem so laughable today after 8 years of the Bush Regime.
No. I’m also not living in a dream world nor do I think that any fantastical land of honesty can every truly come to fruition. Can influence and corruption be minimized? Probably. But wiped out? In politics? Never.
Sorry…..*Marc
And herein lies the most major fucking difficulty with resurrecting all the Clinton Cronies including HRC herownself to be involved in the Obama government.
We need change, not just a change back to the faces, scandals, lies and obfuscation of the Clinton-era. Puhleeeeeze.
Janet Reno’s never around when you need her.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..1969.shtml
Holder got these guys off.
Isn’t George Bush going to pardon people in his regime who weren’t ever charged with a crime to protect them from future prosecution? Thought I read that somewhere.
don’t get me started on janet.
Heh. Poke poke.
Completely irrelevant and superficial but I can’t help but think if Jack Dodson (Howard Sprague from The Andy Griffith Show) and Tim Reid (Venus Flytrap from WKRP in Cincinnati) had a baby, it would have grown up to look like Eric Holder.
Nor do I live in a dream world. I just think when we do become aware of someone trying to buy the system, that we actually hold them accountable and not reward them for it.
Your way seems to be willing to reward the participants in the corruption because we just can’t stop it.
Is it time to start recommending alternatives?
Artur Davis?
Donna Edwards?
Claire McCaskill?
claire is a heavyweight? which do you like?
Obama must have a reason he wants him. Perhaps Holder is looking to make amends by fixing what’s broke. I have no idea why Holder would be nominated but in the end, it’s not my call.
That’s because you are open minded, and I’m not just saying that because you seem to be coming around to my way of thinking.
It’s the word “re-thinking”, gets me every time *g*
http://upsidedownworld.org/mai…..w/1585/68/
My bold
Obama in a debate with McCain publicly rejected a free trade deal with Columbia because of these killings. It was leaked that Bush wanted to help the car companies in exchange for free trade with Columbia, obviously that deal went south. Obama can’t hire Holder and look clean on Colombian free trade.
Nobody went to jail even their names were kept secret, that sounds like the CIA or someone else connected and protected by the Prince of Darkness himself was involved.
And Holder is his go to guy.
i’m sure he has a reason for holder. what i wouldn’t like is having all tis stuff come out about him on the hill. it would be no good for bama.
what was it that they said that set you “rethinking”
So, Holder’s is trhe only iopinion that matters? Is that why he did an end run around BOTH the Pardon Attorney and the US Attorney who had indicted the case? The latter is supposed to be consulted and that office’s opinion is supposed to be the most important factor in the decision.
Should we ask Holder if in his legal opinion Chiquita should be financially liable for these deaths. Should a war crimes trial be opened for Chiquita german car companies have been sued for using slave labor after all.
If you clik on the first link, the article I referenced seems to think she’s sucking up to get a big job at DOJ. Which if you knew Fran, is certainly her MO. She’s a Bolton “kiss up, kick down” kinda person.
Current word on the street is that Obama is considering keeeping on Bobby 3 sticks for a while.
4,000 dead trumps a Billionaire possibly bribing someone to get a pardon. Colombia’s AG is saying this, its not just left wing bloggers.
becareful if you start to agree wit me. it’s a slippery slope. no one likes comey but us.
Great Bushies want in on the justice dept:(
i have to defer to you on procedure. seems that anyone who has some experience is tainted in some way.
I really suck at on line research, so I don’t have link for this–but in a dusty back corner of my memory I think Iread somewhere that Holder recommened to Libby, that Libby have Rich hire Quinn.
You will note that at the end of the NYTimes piece, Holder is asking Quinnn to hire two of Holder’s subordintes. If I could nail that first piece down, it’s starting to look like a round robin of quid pro quo
The “going-around” is the most disturbing thing about Holder. For a department that needs reinvigoration in non-politicized processes and procedures, he is exactly the wrong guy for the job right now.
I don’t want to see the GOP make hay with this, and the Chiquita stuff, during confirmation hearings. It would be best if this proposed nomination just faded away prior to being announced.
We’re all sitting around watching to see if he does that.
OK, I’m watching to see if he does that, and slowly grindng out aseries on pardon law and history–in case any Firepups have insomnia
Eureka opened the digg – you all should pile on with us.
Yeah, that part — number 2 at DOJ asking attorney for guy seeking skanky Federal pardon — kinda lept out at me. Even though it woulda screwed up a chronological account, I’m kinda surprised it wasn’t the NYT lede.
OTOH, my surprise is prolly a sign I’ve been spending way too much time in the weeds.
Grrrrrrrrrrr. GM is proposing using our tax dollars to finance outsourcing:
http://tinyurl.com/69k5mt
are you givin odds? haven’t seen any of this stuff being discussed on tv yet.
Wow, nice quote there
He would be conflicted out from answering the question. So he has a built in dodge, but it makes it kinda clear that DOJ won’t initiate that kind of investigation b/c where would the political will come from to do it?
Actully truckloads of people like and Admire Jim Comey. They aren’t necessarily commentors on this blog–though I suspect that many are faithful lurkers
How can Obama oppose the Colombian free trade agreement on the grounds that Colombia is killing Union Members when his AG covers it up when an American Banana company is paying for these killings?
The GOP will love the chance to dirty Obama and claim that he is as dirty as they are.
Not necessarily, I like Teddy’s suggestion of Artur Davis. And there have been quite few people in the executive tier at DOJ who don’t have baggage–at least that I know of.
I agree Teddy, which is why I am flogging this topic to death.
Book Salon upstairs with emptywheel hosting James Banford
The Media we need them to ask the public the question. We them to do it before Holder gets confirmed. Or maybe the Hague could leak that they want to ask Holder a few questions.
How do we get them on board looking at this case?
I knew I read it somewhere. Via email from Democrats.com:
You can use the “spotlight” feature to email this, and every other psot (Kirk Murphy and BMAZ have been on this topic as well) to the media outlets of your choice.
Ever since we started doing “digg” folks seem to have forgotten how useful “spotlight ” can be.
Were any European citizens killed by Colombian Death Squads, that would get the Hague involved just like it did with Pinochet.
Also the threat that the Hague might investigate Holder at any time for war crimes or covering up warcrimes, of which he is most certainly guilty of by making sure no names were released, could force Obama to withdraw the nomination.
Jerry Nadler has really shown tremendous leadership on this issue–and impeachment. If Conyers and Pelosi had not said no, Jerry was ready to roll with ipeachment inquiry hearings.
Not too much slips through the cracks with Jerry.
I have sent a link to this post ( & the NYT op-ed and Kirk Murphy’s excellent Chiquita post last night) to Rachel Maddow. Which others may also do: rachel@msnbc.com
Modified from the film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Usual_Suspects
I don’t think Holder would have any personal liability. But, his clients might.
It’s just that at time when DOJ needs cleaning up, reconstitutiong and reinspiring–is not the best time to bring in a back room deal guy like Holder.
Exactly! Let’s hope he can accomplish his latest goal. ;-)
holder pops up in another pardon controversy that happened at the same time involving a los angeles drug dealer whose father gave large contributions to politicians who went on to write letters in support of his son’s pardon request. from a 2001 la times article:
link
LHP everyone! Thanks for covering this story and keeping the coverage going please do not let this story disappear. I would like the death of 4,000 people to mean something.
So his favored clients who are not good candidates for pardons get the Nod but anyone else did not. Was Holder denying pardons to keep his average up?
Was there is there a certain finite amount of pardons?
Were deserving people denied pardons so questionable but connected people could get pardons?
Did these people later give to Hilary and later Obama?
This looks like a can of worms.
George Bush has been outsourcing essential government services for eight years, spending like a drunken sailor. Outsourcing is the management rage of the day, a pretend way to cut staff and apparent costs that looks good on the financial statement. What never gets properly disclosed are the vulnerabilities that go with it. The Six Sigma graph looks like a flatline, not a tall, narrow umbrella.
Separately, Holder is what Obama would be, had he gone big firm instead of choosing to enter politics from the bottom up. Holder started as the quintessential outsider, and is now one of the top insiders at a Washington, DC, mega-firm. He “wins” quietly, without public fuss or notice, and wins big. He’s much more like Obama that not.
If progressives want their voices heard, want them reflected in policy, then one way is to support groups like Blue America. That gets their voices inside the Beltway and off the internet. It buttresses sitting progressives, who the Dems are as ready as the GOP to marginalize.
The more progressives there are in Congress, the more that quiet centrists like Obama will have to listen to them. If progressives don’t accumulate enough “voter weight”, they won’t be able to move the political see-saw — already overloaded on the right, with a few teetering in the middle — and centrist Obama won’t have a reason to leave his Jim Lehrer-like comfy corner.
Am I just dreaming, or did I read somewhere that when Bill Clinton was confronted by the reasoning for his controversial Marc Rich pardon, that he finally said he did it at the request of the Israeli government? I don’t think I am imagining this. I did read it somewhere on the tubz. My question would be why?
For what it’s worth, I don’t know doodley squat about Holder and hold no opinion one way or the other. I defer to others much more knowledgeable than me on this appointment.
No, you’re not dreaming. The Isreali gov’t supported the Rich pardon. He was in trouble for illagal trading with Iran (Iraq?) during a time when it was being embargoed.
There was some suggestion that he was doing “stuff” for Isreal during this period, possibly doing spying for Isreal.
I don’t know if Holder acted badly in the Rich matter, though it does seem that the pardon was of very limited benefit to Rich. It always seemed to me that Clinton pardoned Rich as part of a last-minute effort to get an Israeli-Palestinian deal since Rich wasn’t tight with Clinton otherwise. He had other, very different associations (Libby!). I figured you could fault Clinton for doing something politically foolish in granting the pardon, but not something venal.
I always thought Jim Comey was the best choice. Wasn’t he a Democrat in his younger days?
Yes, he used to be a Dem. He actually doesn’t seem to identitify with either party very much, he’s pretty apolitical.
I think Comey would be a brilliant choice. Are you a Harry Potter fan, or is butterbeer an actual beverage?
Yes, Harry Potter fan. Don’t think butterbeer is an actual beverage unless it exists somewhere in the UK. We have sort of looked when we were in Scotland, but, no luck. Lots of beer and scotch, though. Did find an unusual scotch called Ginger Tam’s; label says it’s a “single malt scotch whisky, ginger and honey liqueur”. Found it in Edinburgh. They said it isn’t sold outside Scotland. Probably not much of a market. We found it fantastic for sore throats and colds. Take 90cc at first sign of a sore throat and, surprisingly, it usually kills it. We bring in back in our checked luggage. So far, so good.
Made a huge mistake. Not 90cc, more like 45cc. 90cc is three ounces, a bit much.