Comments on: Be Grateful You Have A Job Or We’ll Send It To China http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:48:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734227 Adie Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:18:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734227 <p>LindaR. Thank you for 50 & 51. Yes, understood and agreed. Still, there are those around the edges who were not born with the silver spoons, who worked and slaved and saved, and were/are truly generous, just because it’s the right thing to do. My parents…</p> LindaR. Thank you for 50 & 51. Yes, understood and agreed. Still, there are those around the edges who were not born with the silver spoons, who worked and slaved and saved, and were/are truly generous, just because it’s the right thing to do. My parents…

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734207 Bluetoe2 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:47:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734207 <p>A little background on the IWW. Most Americans are in the dark on labor history in the U.S. but then many are in the dark period.</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I....._the_World</a></p> A little background on the IWW. Most Americans are in the dark on labor history in the U.S. but then many are in the dark period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I….._the_World

]]> By: dirac http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734197 dirac Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:41:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734197 <p>Hi Jane: I agree with you that we should pass the Employee Free Choice act and that unions have a pivotal role in creating a sustainable relationship between worker and employer. But $14-$16 isn’t McDonald’s wages, especially in a right-to-work state that can pay you federal minimum wage. </p> <p>I also just can’t fathom saving a company like GM (the brilliant maker of the H2, H3 and Cadillac Escalades) that hasn’t really innovated or grown in the past 20 years. If we’re going to put the Detroit auto manufacturers on life support, at least give some of this money to a company like Tesla Motors that is developing a 100% electric car. (Granted, their first model is a luxury roadster, but with the amount of money Detroit burns in a month I am sure there are ways to improve product development.)</p> Hi Jane: I agree with you that we should pass the Employee Free Choice act and that unions have a pivotal role in creating a sustainable relationship between worker and employer. But $14-$16 isn’t McDonald’s wages, especially in a right-to-work state that can pay you federal minimum wage.

I also just can’t fathom saving a company like GM (the brilliant maker of the H2, H3 and Cadillac Escalades) that hasn’t really innovated or grown in the past 20 years. If we’re going to put the Detroit auto manufacturers on life support, at least give some of this money to a company like Tesla Motors that is developing a 100% electric car. (Granted, their first model is a luxury roadster, but with the amount of money Detroit burns in a month I am sure there are ways to improve product development.)

]]> By: someofparts http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734190 someofparts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:36:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734190 <p>must see video shared by someone in comments at Agonist</p> <p><a href="http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/haha_america/" rel="nofollow">http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/haha_america/</a></p> must see video shared by someone in comments at Agonist

http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/haha_america/

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734151 SouthernDragon Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:21:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734151 <p>Now yer talkin’.</p> Now yer talkin’.

]]> By: LindaR http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734126 LindaR Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734126 <p>For instance, does anyone think “Little Russert” would have his plumb make-job if his daddy hadn’t been an aristocrat — or a darling of the aristocracy, at any rate?</p> For instance, does anyone think “Little Russert” would have his plumb make-job if his daddy hadn’t been an aristocrat — or a darling of the aristocracy, at any rate?

]]> By: LindaR http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734119 LindaR Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:09:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734119 <p>In my mind, the aristocracy is that group of people who don’t have to and will never have to work for a living. Their incomes and wealth are secure. Their children will be given assets and position in society on the basis of their family name, regardless of their individual abilities.</p> <p>The aristocracy as a collective works to influence laws that enforce and enhance their ownership of the tangible wealth of the nation.</p> <p>Of course many aristocrats see the value of “spreading the wealth” if having a healthy society is the goal. Warren Buffet also comes to mind, along with the people you mentioned.</p> In my mind, the aristocracy is that group of people who don’t have to and will never have to work for a living. Their incomes and wealth are secure. Their children will be given assets and position in society on the basis of their family name, regardless of their individual abilities.

The aristocracy as a collective works to influence laws that enforce and enhance their ownership of the tangible wealth of the nation.

Of course many aristocrats see the value of “spreading the wealth” if having a healthy society is the goal. Warren Buffet also comes to mind, along with the people you mentioned.

]]> By: TheOtherWA http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734118 TheOtherWA Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:08:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734118 <p>Can we start calling pensions what they really are? Deferred compensation. That’s what executives call it. Cheney’s still getting checks from Halliburton in the form of deferred compensation. </p> <p>Companies and unions made deals long ago that the workers would get paid a little less now for future pay in retirement. Then the companies try to renege.</p> Can we start calling pensions what they really are? Deferred compensation. That’s what executives call it. Cheney’s still getting checks from Halliburton in the form of deferred compensation.

Companies and unions made deals long ago that the workers would get paid a little less now for future pay in retirement. Then the companies try to renege.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734099 Bluetoe2 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:02:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734099 <p>Don’t forget the IWW, Industrial Workers of the World, proponents of One Big Union.</p> Don’t forget the IWW, Industrial Workers of the World, proponents of One Big Union.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734097 Adie Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:00:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/21/be-grateful-you-have-a-job-or-well-send-it-to-china/#comment-1734097 <p>LindaR. Where do you file the Kennedys, Byrd, Waxman, Sherrod Brown, Maxine Waters et al?</p> <p>Does personal wealth equate with aristocracy in your scheme?</p> LindaR. Where do you file the Kennedys, Byrd, Waxman, Sherrod Brown, Maxine Waters et al?

Does personal wealth equate with aristocracy in your scheme?

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