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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733376</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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I am shocked! Henry Paulson threatened Congress with Martial Law to get his $700 billion. What is next? Dana Perino will threaten us with economic collapse if Congress goes home?&lt;/p&gt;
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    Speaking on Tulsa Oklahoma’s 1170 KFAQ, when asked who was behind threats of martial law and civil unrest if the bailout bill failed, Senator James Inhofe named Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson as the source.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    “Somebody in D.C. was feeding you guys quite a story prior to the bailout, a story that if we didn’t do this we were going to see something on the scale of the depression, there were people talking about martial law being instituted, civil unrest….who was feeding you guys this stuff?,” asked host Pat Campbell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    “That’s Henry Paulson,” responded Inhofe, “We had a conference call early on, it was on a Friday I think - a week and half before the vote on Oct. 1. So it would have been the middle … what was it - the 19th of September, we had a conference call. In this conference call - and I guess there’s no reason for me not to repeat what he said, but he said - he painted this picture you just described. He said, ‘This is serious. This is the most serious thing that we faced.’”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Inhofe said that Paulson told members of Congress the crisis would be “far worse than the great depression” if Congress didn’t authorize the bill to buy out toxic debt, a proposal “which he abandoned the day after he got the money,” added Inhofe.
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&lt;p&gt;THAT is why Pelosi, Reid and Obama were correct to push for the bailout! What does it say about the Republicans who voted against it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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I am shocked! Henry Paulson threatened Congress with Martial Law to get his $700 billion. What is next? Dana Perino will threaten us with economic collapse if Congress goes home?</p>
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    Speaking on Tulsa Oklahoma’s 1170 KFAQ, when asked who was behind threats of martial law and civil unrest if the bailout bill failed, Senator James Inhofe named Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson as the source.</p>
<p>    “Somebody in D.C. was feeding you guys quite a story prior to the bailout, a story that if we didn’t do this we were going to see something on the scale of the depression, there were people talking about martial law being instituted, civil unrest….who was feeding you guys this stuff?,” asked host Pat Campbell.</p>
<p>    “That’s Henry Paulson,” responded Inhofe, “We had a conference call early on, it was on a Friday I think &#8211; a week and half before the vote on Oct. 1. So it would have been the middle … what was it &#8211; the 19th of September, we had a conference call. In this conference call &#8211; and I guess there’s no reason for me not to repeat what he said, but he said &#8211; he painted this picture you just described. He said, ‘This is serious. This is the most serious thing that we faced.’”</p>
<p>    Inhofe said that Paulson told members of Congress the crisis would be “far worse than the great depression” if Congress didn’t authorize the bill to buy out toxic debt, a proposal “which he abandoned the day after he got the money,” added Inhofe.
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<p>THAT is why Pelosi, Reid and Obama were correct to push for the bailout! What does it say about the Republicans who voted against it?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733371</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find it interesting that Republicans were willing to dole out $700 billion to bank execs BEFORE the election, but they don’t want to bail anyone out now that Democrats will be left holding the bag.
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&lt;p&gt;More than just ‘banks vs. car makers’ there is ‘Wall Street bankers vs. other banks, car makers or anybody else’. That’s what makes it crystal clear they’re not just incompetent, but are executing a focused plan to hurt everybody but their ‘have and have-mores base’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I find it interesting that Republicans were willing to dole out $700 billion to bank execs BEFORE the election, but they don’t want to bail anyone out now that Democrats will be left holding the bag.
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<p>More than just ‘banks vs. car makers’ there is ‘Wall Street bankers vs. other banks, car makers or anybody else’. That’s what makes it crystal clear they’re not just incompetent, but are executing a focused plan to hurt everybody but their ‘have and have-mores base’.</p>
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		<title>By: kittykitty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733322</link>
		<dc:creator>kittykitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;here’s the link to rep sherman ohio railing against that very threat from paulson in the well of the house&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here’s the link to rep sherman ohio railing against that very threat from paulson in the well of the house</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8</a></p>
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		<title>By: kittykitty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733319</link>
		<dc:creator>kittykitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gotta agree with ya there. this whole fam damily and its relates are taking everything that isn’t nailed down. I think americans sense this but are unwilling to admit it’s that blatant. kinda sad, also infuriating that they’re getting away with it. My hope is that this whole fiasco gets americans to stop and think about their identity as consumers in the eyes of corporate america, and will decide they’d rather value themselves as human beings first, demand single payer, free higher education, limits on credit card interest rates, etc etc&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gotta agree with ya there. this whole fam damily and its relates are taking everything that isn’t nailed down. I think americans sense this but are unwilling to admit it’s that blatant. kinda sad, also infuriating that they’re getting away with it. My hope is that this whole fiasco gets americans to stop and think about their identity as consumers in the eyes of corporate america, and will decide they’d rather value themselves as human beings first, demand single payer, free higher education, limits on credit card interest rates, etc etc</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733313</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;some one asked the panel the question - could we just declare the naked swaps illegal? there did seem to be some reluctance to answer the question directly, but still interesting… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the most frustrating thing about the hearing was that the idiot from the sec used it to try to make the case for why the sec should be in charge of regulating credit derivatives, even though the argument was weak and they were not ready to do it. petty empire building. like we have time for that shit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some one asked the panel the question &#8211; could we just declare the naked swaps illegal? there did seem to be some reluctance to answer the question directly, but still interesting… </p>
<p>the most frustrating thing about the hearing was that the idiot from the sec used it to try to make the case for why the sec should be in charge of regulating credit derivatives, even though the argument was weak and they were not ready to do it. petty empire building. like we have time for that shit.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Bear</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733310</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IIRC it was Nixon who disbanded the gold standard in favour of floating rates. During the LBJ administration there was a strong effort to stop “the gold drain”, “Buy American” was pushed strongly. Your petrodollars are from the ‘72 oil snafu and the 4 fold increase in oil costs. America was buying huge quantities long before then and those dollars were accumulating in the fund mentioned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC it was Nixon who disbanded the gold standard in favour of floating rates. During the LBJ administration there was a strong effort to stop “the gold drain”, “Buy American” was pushed strongly. Your petrodollars are from the ‘72 oil snafu and the 4 fold increase in oil costs. America was buying huge quantities long before then and those dollars were accumulating in the fund mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Tula Connell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733309</link>
		<dc:creator>Tula Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for bringing this up, yellowsnapdragon. The FDL folks–Jane, Marcy, Ian, et al., have done such a great job covering the issue this week, there’s not more to add. Jane hit it on the head when she said Rs in Congress are denying the bridge loan because the auto industry is unionized. Bush and his congressional cronies aren’t going to lose a day before Jan. 20 to try to further ram their failed ideology down the throats of America’s workers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hear Bushie is now making noise about working with Congress on some kind of aid to the auto industry. Maybe someone told him there might not be a stock market left before he leaves if he doesn’t do something.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this up, yellowsnapdragon. The FDL folks–Jane, Marcy, Ian, et al., have done such a great job covering the issue this week, there’s not more to add. Jane hit it on the head when she said Rs in Congress are denying the bridge loan because the auto industry is unionized. Bush and his congressional cronies aren’t going to lose a day before Jan. 20 to try to further ram their failed ideology down the throats of America’s workers. </p>
<p>I hear Bushie is now making noise about working with Congress on some kind of aid to the auto industry. Maybe someone told him there might not be a stock market left before he leaves if he doesn’t do something.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733307</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PW upstairs with Coleman-Franken recount goodies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/franken-coleman-recount-update-is-that-toast-i-smell/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://campaignsilo.firedoglak.....t-i-smell/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PW upstairs with Coleman-Franken recount goodies.<br /><a href="http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/franken-coleman-recount-update-is-that-toast-i-smell/" rel="nofollow">http://campaignsilo.firedoglak&#8230;..t-i-smell/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733308</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I don’t have much use for naked swaps.  My view is that when the police raid a floating crap game they grab the pot.  They don’t try to figure out who owes what to whom.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don’t have much use for naked swaps.  My view is that when the police raid a floating crap game they grab the pot.  They don’t try to figure out who owes what to whom.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/20/12-steps-to-stopping-a-depression/#comment-1733306</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that. I actually now remember that from the time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. I actually now remember that from the time.</p>
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