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	<title>Comments on: Chinese Want To Buy the Big 3</title>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/19/better-think-twice-about-selling-off-the-big-3/#comment-1732276</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Score thanks for the Shout Out Jane! Sorry I missed it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Score thanks for the Shout Out Jane! Sorry I missed it!</p>
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		<title>By: brandane</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/19/better-think-twice-about-selling-off-the-big-3/#comment-1732129</link>
		<dc:creator>brandane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah so, you melican plicks thought you won back in 1945.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah so, you melican plicks thought you won back in 1945.</p>
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		<title>By: RockPaperScizzors</title>
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		<dc:creator>RockPaperScizzors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.nytimes:Facing a Slowdown, China’s Auto Industry Presses for a Bailout From Beijing&lt;br /&gt;
GUANGZHOU, China — Do Chinese automakers need a bailout? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;China’s car industry is quietly pressing Beijing for government help as it copes with a jarring slowdown, top Chinese auto executives said in interviews here on Tuesday. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This autumn, after six years of 20 percent or more annual growth, vehicle sales were flat or slightly negative, a shock to an industry that has borrowed heavily to build ever more factories for a market that had once seemed insatiable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…China’s top three export markets for fully assembled vehicles are Russia, Ukraine and Vietnam, all of which are struggling with the global financial crisis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great Wall Motor has had a 40 percent plunge in its monthly exports to Russia in the last three months, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With China’s largest automakers involved in joint ventures with American automakers, and with the entire Chinese auto industry now seeking its own forms of government help as well, criticism of any bailout for Detroit has been muted. Producers elsewhere in Asia, facing declining markets at home as well, have also been hesitant to criticize.&lt;/p&gt;
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To quote Scooter in a letter to Judith Miller, albeit in a different context, but nonetheless relevant to worldwide debt consumption as consumers are maxed out and unable to consume more debt obligations; ”…the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.nytimes:Facing a Slowdown, China’s Auto Industry Presses for a Bailout From Beijing<br />
GUANGZHOU, China — Do Chinese automakers need a bailout? </p>
<p>China’s car industry is quietly pressing Beijing for government help as it copes with a jarring slowdown, top Chinese auto executives said in interviews here on Tuesday. </p>
<p>This autumn, after six years of 20 percent or more annual growth, vehicle sales were flat or slightly negative, a shock to an industry that has borrowed heavily to build ever more factories for a market that had once seemed insatiable.</p>
<p>…China’s top three export markets for fully assembled vehicles are Russia, Ukraine and Vietnam, all of which are struggling with the global financial crisis.</p>
<p>Great Wall Motor has had a 40 percent plunge in its monthly exports to Russia in the last three months, </p>
<p>With China’s largest automakers involved in joint ventures with American automakers, and with the entire Chinese auto industry now seeking its own forms of government help as well, criticism of any bailout for Detroit has been muted. Producers elsewhere in Asia, facing declining markets at home as well, have also been hesitant to criticize.</p>
<p>——————————-<br />
To quote Scooter in a letter to Judith Miller, albeit in a different context, but nonetheless relevant to worldwide debt consumption as consumers are maxed out and unable to consume more debt obligations; ”…the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them.”</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was cleanin’ pools in LA then and we’d see the location shoot and go down to be part of the background crowd.  Coupla long haired hippies. Funny seein’ yersef on teebee.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was cleanin’ pools in LA then and we’d see the location shoot and go down to be part of the background crowd.  Coupla long haired hippies. Funny seein’ yersef on teebee.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;didn’t know about the blackberrys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’ve been trying not to watch tv (although i’ve been watching some lately - charlie rose and sunday morning talking heads). and even then i try to mostly listen and not watch (same for cspan streaming). listen to lots of podcasts. don’t know why but the visual cues seem to be much more insidious (at least for me).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;makes a big difference - but i’ve got years of indoctrination to overcome.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn’t know about the blackberrys.</p>
<p>i’ve been trying not to watch tv (although i’ve been watching some lately &#8211; charlie rose and sunday morning talking heads). and even then i try to mostly listen and not watch (same for cspan streaming). listen to lots of podcasts. don’t know why but the visual cues seem to be much more insidious (at least for me).</p>
<p>makes a big difference &#8211; but i’ve got years of indoctrination to overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had a business relationship w/ James Garner at the time of his PI tv series in which he drove a pontiac. I was in the office when he decided to give one to his bro. He got on the phone w/ the GM/VP at pontiac and it was delivered the following week.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a business relationship w/ James Garner at the time of his PI tv series in which he drove a pontiac. I was in the office when he decided to give one to his bro. He got on the phone w/ the GM/VP at pontiac and it was delivered the following week.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Product placement is the least expensive form of ads.  Big discussion in movie/teebee industry about it as we speak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Product placement is the least expensive form of ads.  Big discussion in movie/teebee industry about it as we speak.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;world view that is suicidal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Try selling that concept to a large part of the modern generation.  The ones who can’t wait for the next version of iPod 5 minutes after they bought the last version.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>world view that is suicidal.</p>
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<p>Try selling that concept to a large part of the modern generation.  The ones who can’t wait for the next version of iPod 5 minutes after they bought the last version.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Advertising doesn’t just come through the advertisements we watch but the shows and programs we watch. How many Blackberrys are being sold by showing Obama’s reliance on his?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising doesn’t just come through the advertisements we watch but the shows and programs we watch. How many Blackberrys are being sold by showing Obama’s reliance on his?</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i agree it’s cultural - and deadly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;advertising is selling us not just products, but a world view that is suicidal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree it’s cultural &#8211; and deadly.</p>
<p>advertising is selling us not just products, but a world view that is suicidal.</p>
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