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	<title>Comments on: These were the thoughts of the Framers</title>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/these-were-the-thoughts-of-the-framers/#comment-1731366</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very late to the thread, haven’t read it all yet, but how about a posting on who you would pardon if you were in Bush’s shoes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;E.g. Leonard Peltier - apparently Clinton almost pardoned him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very late to the thread, haven’t read it all yet, but how about a posting on who you would pardon if you were in Bush’s shoes?</p>
<p>E.g. Leonard Peltier &#8211; apparently Clinton almost pardoned him.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/these-were-the-thoughts-of-the-framers/#comment-1731101</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;we’re several threads behind…  pelosi just came on my radio so i’m going to take a break. do not want to listen to speaker off the table right now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;later pups.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we’re several threads behind…  pelosi just came on my radio so i’m going to take a break. do not want to listen to speaker off the table right now.</p>
<p>later pups.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Bear</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/these-were-the-thoughts-of-the-framers/#comment-1731099</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is a gorgeous city, interesting history, a cultural capital, and very expensive. Last year though, they nearly ran out of water, bringing water in on tankers. Madrid is another, capital of empire, and shows the wealth and glory. Granada though smaller has a magic that is uniquely attractive. Not been to Seville or Valencia yet, Spain is an enchanting country, and has much to offer with its history and experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Later&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a gorgeous city, interesting history, a cultural capital, and very expensive. Last year though, they nearly ran out of water, bringing water in on tankers. Madrid is another, capital of empire, and shows the wealth and glory. Granada though smaller has a magic that is uniquely attractive. Not been to Seville or Valencia yet, Spain is an enchanting country, and has much to offer with its history and experience.<br />
Later</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks. will keep it mind when i relisten.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks. will keep it mind when i relisten.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;not a fraking clue. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe ask hugh? or masaccio recently posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/1820#comment-13344&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a comment&lt;/a&gt; and link might give you what you are looking for.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a fraking clue. </p>
<p>maybe ask hugh? or masaccio recently posted <a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/1820#comment-13344" rel="nofollow">a comment</a> and link might give you what you are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And to think in MN they were having hissy fits over 32 votes they imagined were left in a car trunk&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think in MN they were having hissy fits over 32 votes they imagined were left in a car trunk</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/these-were-the-thoughts-of-the-framers/#comment-1731092</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You take my point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You take my point.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Training is one thing getting them to put on the back packs would be a SOB.&lt;br /&gt;
and look out if caribou barbie is flying by.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training is one thing getting them to put on the back packs would be a SOB.<br />
and look out if caribou barbie is flying by.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s my take (color me naive). I think they (auto execs) were being honest &amp; upright. (Well, on the corp exec scale that is.) I have observed that execs in cyclical industries go on the straight n narrow when times get tough. So I think they’ve run the numbers and are being straightforward. Now, you needed to pay attention to their assumptions, which will not come to bear. But that is analytical SOP (shouldn’t be, but is), so that’s OK. So begging or pretending to beg: 50:50. Don’t think it’s a done deal, but think the execs expect it will happen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s my take (color me naive). I think they (auto execs) were being honest &amp; upright. (Well, on the corp exec scale that is.) I have observed that execs in cyclical industries go on the straight n narrow when times get tough. So I think they’ve run the numbers and are being straightforward. Now, you needed to pay attention to their assumptions, which will not come to bear. But that is analytical SOP (shouldn’t be, but is), so that’s OK. So begging or pretending to beg: 50:50. Don’t think it’s a done deal, but think the execs expect it will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/these-were-the-thoughts-of-the-framers/#comment-1731083</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds good.  I’ll have to look that one up!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good.  I’ll have to look that one up!</p>
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