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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The Auto Industry Never Lobbied Against Higher CAFE Standards&#8221; And Other Lobbyist Knee Slappers</title>
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		<title>By: ferrarimanf355</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/the-auto-industry-never-lobbied-against-higher-cafe-standards-and-other-lobbyist-knee-slappers/#comment-1730925</link>
		<dc:creator>ferrarimanf355</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just want them to survive so I can get a Camaro or Mustang next year. I’m sorry, but econoboxes don’t really light my fire unless they have turbo fours making at least 200 HP…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want them to survive so I can get a Camaro or Mustang next year. I’m sorry, but econoboxes don’t really light my fire unless they have turbo fours making at least 200 HP…</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like that idea.  :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First order of business:  Putting managerial staff on Japanese salaries.  Yes, that means that GM’s top guy must work for “only” $990,000 a year as opposed to $13 to $15 million.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that idea.  :-)</p>
<p>First order of business:  Putting managerial staff on Japanese salaries.  Yes, that means that GM’s top guy must work for “only” $990,000 a year as opposed to $13 to $15 million.</p>
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		<title>By: nomolos</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomolos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Explain, please?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane said that Territo should be laughed out of the room for what he said during the conversation. I was, I thought clearly, asking Jane to tell us what she said in reply and if she did in some way or another ‘laugh him out of the room’ for the absurdity of his comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Explain, please?</p>
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<p>Jane said that Territo should be laughed out of the room for what he said during the conversation. I was, I thought clearly, asking Jane to tell us what she said in reply and if she did in some way or another ‘laugh him out of the room’ for the absurdity of his comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Make a point of bringing up the fact that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89626309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japanese employers can get away with paying their workers less than do American employers because &lt;strong&gt;the Japanese government tightly regulates their health-care system so that workers pay less and get much more care than we do&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make a point of bringing up the fact that <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89626309" rel="nofollow">Japanese employers can get away with paying their workers less than do American employers because <strong>the Japanese government tightly regulates their health-care system so that workers pay less and get much more care than we do</strong>.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Explain, please?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain, please?</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with that, however we still must tariff any product that comes into this country that does not provide health care for the laborers producing that product&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;health care is a necessary expense, when it is not provided either through single payer or the manufacturer, that product must be tariffed&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that, however we still must tariff any product that comes into this country that does not provide health care for the laborers producing that product</p>
<p>health care is a necessary expense, when it is not provided either through single payer or the manufacturer, that product must be tariffed</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is equally applicable to any industry. All of them lack this competitive advantage. Make them more competitive by giving all of their employees Single Payer Universal Health Care.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;better then that, simply tariff those cars that are produced without healthcare for their laborers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;simple stuff&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is equally applicable to any industry. All of them lack this competitive advantage. Make them more competitive by giving all of their employees Single Payer Universal Health Care.</p>
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<p>better then that, simply tariff those cars that are produced without healthcare for their laborers.</p>
<p>simple stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Obama rightly wants answers to these questions before he starts authorizing checks.   And it’s going to be hard to answer them before we know what the government’s role in healthcare is going to be going forward.  But finding solutions is not going to be helped by all sides treating this as nothing more than a propaganda war, and auto industry flaks like Territo should by all rights be laughed out of the room for making assertions like “the auto industry never lobbied against higher CAFE standards” (yes, he actually said that).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A-yep. Good for Obama.  One of the things the folks touting the Japanese industry habitually leave out is that Japanese workers don’t take it in the shorts each time they go to the hospital.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama rightly wants answers to these questions before he starts authorizing checks.   And it’s going to be hard to answer them before we know what the government’s role in healthcare is going to be going forward.  But finding solutions is not going to be helped by all sides treating this as nothing more than a propaganda war, and auto industry flaks like Territo should by all rights be laughed out of the room for making assertions like “the auto industry never lobbied against higher CAFE standards” (yes, he actually said that).</p>
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<p>A-yep. Good for Obama.  One of the things the folks touting the Japanese industry habitually leave out is that Japanese workers don’t take it in the shorts each time they go to the hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: shooogarp</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooogarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I quote: “Eskimos have never made igloos”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I quote: “Eskimos have never made igloos”</p>
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