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	<title>Comments on: Take The Pledge:  &#8220;I Will Work To Defeat Joe Lieberman in 2012&#8243;</title>
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		<title>By: catchlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>catchlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Give Congressman-elect Jim Himes (CT-04) a first term, a reelection in 2010, and then let him take on Lieberman for the Senate in 2012.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Himes can beat Chris Shays, he can certainly defeat Joe Lieberman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give Congressman-elect Jim Himes (CT-04) a first term, a reelection in 2010, and then let him take on Lieberman for the Senate in 2012.</p>
<p>If Himes can beat Chris Shays, he can certainly defeat Joe Lieberman.</p>
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		<title>By: charlottelew</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlottelew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please use my letter where ever you would like please post it and tell your friends to do the same. I will updating everyone if I get response.Thanks for your support. Good to see people really engaged!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Please use my letter where ever you would like please post it and tell your friends to do the same. I will updating everyone if I get response.Thanks for your support. Good to see people really engaged!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TonyATL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link…I unsubscribed this morning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m so sick of these guys.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tony&lt;br /&gt;
Atlanta&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link…I unsubscribed this morning.</p>
<p>I’m so sick of these guys.</p>
<p>Tony<br />
Atlanta</p>
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		<title>By: Stratford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stratford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The pledge is irrelevant.  2012!! - who cares!  We got stabbed in the back today.  Our president-elect told the senators to support Joe and let him keep his seat.  Our senate leader brags about what a great ally Joe is, and the DNC chairman drinks the kool-aid telling us what a wise and strategic act this was.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m pissed - not because I have to wait four years to send a dollar to some future Joepponent, but because I truly feel the leaders I supported, and voted for, are more interested in reaching across the aisle to potentially gain the support of some future Republican voter- in the name of bipartisanship - rather than listen to a progressive who already voted for the Dem candidate.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am I going to work to defeat Lieberman in the future?  Yes I am.  Am I going to work to defeat Reid?  Yes I am.  And I pledge that if the only way I can defeat them is to vote Republican - Yes I will.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I’ve learned from this charade is that Progressives need to demonstrate that they can and will insult other  Dems, and actively campaign against them, in order to gain some cred.  The reality is that Reid and probably Lieberman are not going to be beaten by “better” Dems.   If progressives aren’t ready to step up and vote Republican to kick some of these senators out, then don’t expect anything to change.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pledge is irrelevant.  2012!! &#8211; who cares!  We got stabbed in the back today.  Our president-elect told the senators to support Joe and let him keep his seat.  Our senate leader brags about what a great ally Joe is, and the DNC chairman drinks the kool-aid telling us what a wise and strategic act this was.  </p>
<p>I’m pissed &#8211; not because I have to wait four years to send a dollar to some future Joepponent, but because I truly feel the leaders I supported, and voted for, are more interested in reaching across the aisle to potentially gain the support of some future Republican voter- in the name of bipartisanship &#8211; rather than listen to a progressive who already voted for the Dem candidate.  </p>
<p>Am I going to work to defeat Lieberman in the future?  Yes I am.  Am I going to work to defeat Reid?  Yes I am.  And I pledge that if the only way I can defeat them is to vote Republican &#8211; Yes I will.    </p>
<p>What I’ve learned from this charade is that Progressives need to demonstrate that they can and will insult other  Dems, and actively campaign against them, in order to gain some cred.  The reality is that Reid and probably Lieberman are not going to be beaten by “better” Dems.   If progressives aren’t ready to step up and vote Republican to kick some of these senators out, then don’t expect anything to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick80229</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maverick80229</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Charlotte,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is an excellent letter, so excellent, in fact, that I registered with FDL just so I could write this reply.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With your permission, I’d like to use your words to further the cause of holding our ‘representatives’ accountable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I also hit the pavement to support the Campaign for Change, and to see a 42-13 vote supporting Lieberman is absolutely appalling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards from Colorado.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Charlotte,</p>
<p>That is an excellent letter, so excellent, in fact, that I registered with FDL just so I could write this reply.</p>
<p>With your permission, I’d like to use your words to further the cause of holding our ‘representatives’ accountable.</p>
<p>BTW, I also hit the pavement to support the Campaign for Change, and to see a 42-13 vote supporting Lieberman is absolutely appalling.</p>
<p>Regards from Colorado.</p>
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		<title>By: JMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama is a heartbreaking disappointment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re talking about maintaining a level of commitment to anger for four years.  At which point Lieberman will be 70 years old, and probably will want to retire anyway.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ned Lamont was a bad candidate (who goes on vacation after they win the primary?), who only ran because he was rich and could finance his own campaign.  He was as conservative as Lieberman, the only difference being his lack of support for the Iraq war, but who knows if he would have maintained that position once in the Senate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Target the senators who supported Lieberman who are up for re-election in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re talking about maintaining a level of commitment to anger for four years.  At which point Lieberman will be 70 years old, and probably will want to retire anyway.  </p>
<p>Ned Lamont was a bad candidate (who goes on vacation after they win the primary?), who only ran because he was rich and could finance his own campaign.  He was as conservative as Lieberman, the only difference being his lack of support for the Iraq war, but who knows if he would have maintained that position once in the Senate.</p>
<p>Target the senators who supported Lieberman who are up for re-election in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnEmerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnEmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, what I’m saying is that we need to take one down in 2010. Really target a specific Senator, maybe Reid or Salazar or whomever. We can’t wait until 2012 for Lieberman. But we also shouldn’t bitch generically about the whole crew.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, what I’m saying is that we need to take one down in 2010. Really target a specific Senator, maybe Reid or Salazar or whomever. We can’t wait until 2012 for Lieberman. But we also shouldn’t bitch generically about the whole crew.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Seriously, Selise: we really need to take at least one of them down. We almost got Lieberman, but he escaped. It’s like we warned them without really hurting them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;john, i live in ma and spent many days in ct canvassing for lamont (both before the primary and the general). look forward to doing it again - only 2x, at least.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;still need to say what i think of the rest of them though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seriously, Selise: we really need to take at least one of them down. We almost got Lieberman, but he escaped. It’s like we warned them without really hurting them.</p>
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<p>john, i live in ma and spent many days in ct canvassing for lamont (both before the primary and the general). look forward to doing it again &#8211; only 2x, at least.</p>
<p>still need to say what i think of the rest of them though.</p>
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		<title>By: charlottelew</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlottelew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi everyone, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This letter was emailed to Joe Lieberman on 18-Nov-08. I post what if any response that I get.&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Joe Lieberman,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My name is Charlotte, and I am writing to you to express my complete and utter disgust with your actions throughout the general elections. As a (true) democrat I can not believe you even call yourself one of us. Your actions at the RNC, are completely unforgivable and reprehensible.  As someone who campaigned day and night for weeks in a battleground state. I often had to defend against your remarks to citizens who believed your pathetic rhetoric. It was a difficult argument, and I was often taken off message just to make people understand that President-Elect Obama was not the person you, John McCain and Sarah Palin painted him out to be. That Sir was by far one of the most difficult challenges that I faced in this election. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I was working to elect Obama, you were systematically undermining my efforts.  Mr. Lieberman, I walked door to door, got chased out of yards, spit at, cursed out, had things thrown at me, dogs chase me and people threaten me. All the while I believed that what I was doing was the right thing for this country and for my family. Yet you Sir seemed to feel that I and countless others were on the wrong side.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given the fact that Obama campaigned for you and helped you in your time of great need, one can only wonder why you couldn’t do the same.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; You were able to keep your coveted Chairmanship, only because your comrades were too afraid or perhaps too sensible to listen to the will of the people. Were it not for the very one you turned your back on, you would have surly received what you deserved. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; The very thought that you were able to retain a chairmanship in the (Democratic Party) makes me physically ill. Because of what I had to go through campaigning I am completely offended and totally against the vote. However, since the public had no say or vote in this matter then all I can do is to write you myself. You may have won this round and yes perhaps you did get the last laugh. I am sure it gives you great fulfillment to shun and trot over the efforts of hard working people, by campaigning for the other side, then turning around and smugly ask us to look past it and move forward.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sure it is easy for you to say these things when you have spent no time in the shoes, homes, or presence of those you spurned.  Maybe if you could take one moment to talk to the people who were affected by what you did then possibly you would understand how far reaching your words and actions were. In the halls of Washington, you won’t see the disappointed faces, or hear the discouraged voices of the public, that you swore to represent. If you are really interested in moving forward, then why don’t you do this, “Call” me and let’s have a one on one conversation about my concerns. Call me, let’s talk about how “we” can move forward and put the past in the past. Because to be quite honest, Mr. Lieberman at this point in time the only thing I am interested in doing is literally assisting in anyway possible the Democrat that will campaign against you in 2012. Oh, and trust me from the many blogs out there I am not alone in my sentiment.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, I am a sensible person I do want this new administration to work very badly because I am truly vested. I want to move past my anger, my frustration and my distrust of you. So, I am willing to talk and listen to anything you have to say.  You can contact me anytime via any means. I don’t want some scripted email I want to hear from you, Senator Lieberman. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will be posting this letter on the many blogs and websites with a daily calendar counter for number of days with no response from you.  There are many people who would like some answers, not some generic statement written by a staffer. I am a professional writer, ghostwriter and speechwriter myself so I know when words come from a person’s heart and soul. We (I) want to know what you have to say for yourself. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You may reach me at the number below anytime of any day. I will make myself available for an in person meeting should you desire. I am ready to listen, I am ready to understand and I want help moving forward. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Charlotte&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, </p>
<p>This letter was emailed to Joe Lieberman on 18-Nov-08. I post what if any response that I get.<br />
Dear Joe Lieberman,</p>
<p>My name is Charlotte, and I am writing to you to express my complete and utter disgust with your actions throughout the general elections. As a (true) democrat I can not believe you even call yourself one of us. Your actions at the RNC, are completely unforgivable and reprehensible.  As someone who campaigned day and night for weeks in a battleground state. I often had to defend against your remarks to citizens who believed your pathetic rhetoric. It was a difficult argument, and I was often taken off message just to make people understand that President-Elect Obama was not the person you, John McCain and Sarah Palin painted him out to be. That Sir was by far one of the most difficult challenges that I faced in this election. </p>
<p>While I was working to elect Obama, you were systematically undermining my efforts.  Mr. Lieberman, I walked door to door, got chased out of yards, spit at, cursed out, had things thrown at me, dogs chase me and people threaten me. All the while I believed that what I was doing was the right thing for this country and for my family. Yet you Sir seemed to feel that I and countless others were on the wrong side.</p>
<p>Given the fact that Obama campaigned for you and helped you in your time of great need, one can only wonder why you couldn’t do the same.  </p>
<p> You were able to keep your coveted Chairmanship, only because your comrades were too afraid or perhaps too sensible to listen to the will of the people. Were it not for the very one you turned your back on, you would have surly received what you deserved. </p>
<p> The very thought that you were able to retain a chairmanship in the (Democratic Party) makes me physically ill. Because of what I had to go through campaigning I am completely offended and totally against the vote. However, since the public had no say or vote in this matter then all I can do is to write you myself. You may have won this round and yes perhaps you did get the last laugh. I am sure it gives you great fulfillment to shun and trot over the efforts of hard working people, by campaigning for the other side, then turning around and smugly ask us to look past it and move forward.  </p>
<p>I am sure it is easy for you to say these things when you have spent no time in the shoes, homes, or presence of those you spurned.  Maybe if you could take one moment to talk to the people who were affected by what you did then possibly you would understand how far reaching your words and actions were. In the halls of Washington, you won’t see the disappointed faces, or hear the discouraged voices of the public, that you swore to represent. If you are really interested in moving forward, then why don’t you do this, “Call” me and let’s have a one on one conversation about my concerns. Call me, let’s talk about how “we” can move forward and put the past in the past. Because to be quite honest, Mr. Lieberman at this point in time the only thing I am interested in doing is literally assisting in anyway possible the Democrat that will campaign against you in 2012. Oh, and trust me from the many blogs out there I am not alone in my sentiment.  </p>
<p>But, I am a sensible person I do want this new administration to work very badly because I am truly vested. I want to move past my anger, my frustration and my distrust of you. So, I am willing to talk and listen to anything you have to say.  You can contact me anytime via any means. I don’t want some scripted email I want to hear from you, Senator Lieberman. </p>
<p>I will be posting this letter on the many blogs and websites with a daily calendar counter for number of days with no response from you.  There are many people who would like some answers, not some generic statement written by a staffer. I am a professional writer, ghostwriter and speechwriter myself so I know when words come from a person’s heart and soul. We (I) want to know what you have to say for yourself. </p>
<p>You may reach me at the number below anytime of any day. I will make myself available for an in person meeting should you desire. I am ready to listen, I am ready to understand and I want help moving forward. </p>
<p>Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. </p>
<p>Charlotte</p>
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