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		<title>By: brantl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/lieberman-suck-on-that-liberals/#comment-1731780</link>
		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The way to get their attention is to start doing the people’s business in congress, and to stoutly oppose these people when they run. The congressional Democrats need to call attention to the obstructionistic tactics of the Republicans for the last 2 years (blame where blame is due). If they suck, &lt;strong&gt;run ads about why they suck when they’re in their primaries&lt;/strong&gt;. There’s no reason that we can’t stick an oar in to get more reasonable Republicans, too, or to try to turn centrist Republicans and Independants away early, toward Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We really also, out to have an amendment to the US constitution saying that any law that abridges the rights of any two consenting adults to marry in a civil ceremony, with all attendant rights, is unconstitutional.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to get their attention is to start doing the people’s business in congress, and to stoutly oppose these people when they run. The congressional Democrats need to call attention to the obstructionistic tactics of the Republicans for the last 2 years (blame where blame is due). If they suck, <strong>run ads about why they suck when they’re in their primaries</strong>. There’s no reason that we can’t stick an oar in to get more reasonable Republicans, too, or to try to turn centrist Republicans and Independants away early, toward Democrats.</p>
<p>We really also, out to have an amendment to the US constitution saying that any law that abridges the rights of any two consenting adults to marry in a civil ceremony, with all attendant rights, is unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/lieberman-suck-on-that-liberals/#comment-1731769</link>
		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually, it’s perfectly acceptable to be piss’d off at Short Ride for both his actions against the Dems on the campaign trail AND his refusal to perform any oversight of the Bush Admin, including his failure to hold the promised Katrina related hearings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; Among democrats, sure, but the reason to take his seat as chair away from him is because he’s sat on on his hands, not because of who he campaigned for. Don’t you get the important difference in this? It isn’t partisan, it’s just clearing out the dead wood. The purely partisan portion has no place on the Senate floor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, it’s perfectly acceptable to be piss’d off at Short Ride for both his actions against the Dems on the campaign trail AND his refusal to perform any oversight of the Bush Admin, including his failure to hold the promised Katrina related hearings.</p>
<blockquote><p> Among democrats, sure, but the reason to take his seat as chair away from him is because he’s sat on on his hands, not because of who he campaigned for. Don’t you get the important difference in this? It isn’t partisan, it’s just clearing out the dead wood. The purely partisan portion has no place on the Senate floor.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I liked your piece yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I liked your piece yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/lieberman-suck-on-that-liberals/#comment-1731631</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Their impudence is based on our inability, or our unwillingness, to hurt them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is the sum total of their power. Agreed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Their impudence is based on our inability, or our unwillingness, to hurt them.</p>
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<p>That is the sum total of their power. Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;But make no mistake, their hatred is based on our power.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is a mistake. Their impudence is based on our inability, or our unwillingness, to hurt them. Until that happens, nothing will change. These people only worship power. If you don’t have any, they’ll piss on your head until their bladders are empty, and then go have an extra-large coffee.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I keep writing this here, and keep getting the same foolish responses. When you’re willing to do something that will get their attention, let me know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But make no mistake, their hatred is based on our power.</i></p>
<p>That is a mistake. Their impudence is based on our inability, or our unwillingness, to hurt them. Until that happens, nothing will change. These people only worship power. If you don’t have any, they’ll piss on your head until their bladders are empty, and then go have an extra-large coffee.</p>
<p>I keep writing this here, and keep getting the same foolish responses. When you’re willing to do something that will get their attention, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: secularhuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>secularhuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;more conservative than McCain’s…??&lt;br /&gt;
rubbish. absolute rubbish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more conservative than McCain’s…??<br />
rubbish. absolute rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: secularhuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>secularhuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;meanwhile, Obama says he’s committing the U.S. to 80% emissions reduction amid a strong repudiation of Bush anti-Kyoto policies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meanwhile, Obama says he’s committing the U.S. to 80% emissions reduction amid a strong repudiation of Bush anti-Kyoto policies.</p>
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		<title>By: ceabaird</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceabaird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do believe that some Democratic leaders need a reminder of who they work for.&lt;br /&gt;
Keep weeding out the worthless turncoat bastards one at a time every chance we get.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Absolutely. “Stinky” Hoyer is another one. As for their “We must bend over and stick our heads up the asses of our corporate overlords” understanding of the Democratic sweep during this past election, “For the first time in decades, we are a true national majority party—and if we want to stay that way, we must govern like one,” (Stinky, &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Americablog/~3/oRSuDAsoBGE/steny-hoyer-dont-expect-us-to-be-real.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) I don not think “True National Majority” means what they think it does…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do believe that some Democratic leaders need a reminder of who they work for.<br />
Keep weeding out the worthless turncoat bastards one at a time every chance we get.</p>
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<p>Absolutely. “Stinky” Hoyer is another one. As for their “We must bend over and stick our heads up the asses of our corporate overlords” understanding of the Democratic sweep during this past election, “For the first time in decades, we are a true national majority party—and if we want to stay that way, we must govern like one,” (Stinky, <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Americablog/~3/oRSuDAsoBGE/steny-hoyer-dont-expect-us-to-be-real.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) I don not think “True National Majority” means what they think it does…</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I hope this puts to rest the notion that this is all some master stroke of kumbayah, of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where do you get that? From the comments of a Senate aide??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It IS a master stroke of kumbayah. Everybody knows Lieberman is a putz, but now he has to be a good little putz and not piss off Big Daddy. Just imagine him on the other side of the aisle, whining and snarking through Obama’s first term.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d have preferred that they burned Traitor Joe at the stake, but what would that have gotten progressives? “Hey, we burned the guy, so you lefties just shaddup now. You got what you wanted, didn’t you?” Seriously, Jane: I think your take on this &lt;em&gt;buys into&lt;/em&gt; the argument that the left is powerless and ignored. Why look so hard for signs of betrayal? If one looks, one will find. I mean, don’t we have WORK to do?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Onward!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I hope this puts to rest the notion that this is all some master stroke of kumbayah, of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.</em></p>
<p>Where do you get that? From the comments of a Senate aide??</p>
<p>It IS a master stroke of kumbayah. Everybody knows Lieberman is a putz, but now he has to be a good little putz and not piss off Big Daddy. Just imagine him on the other side of the aisle, whining and snarking through Obama’s first term.</p>
<p>I’d have preferred that they burned Traitor Joe at the stake, but what would that have gotten progressives? “Hey, we burned the guy, so you lefties just shaddup now. You got what you wanted, didn’t you?” Seriously, Jane: I think your take on this <em>buys into</em> the argument that the left is powerless and ignored. Why look so hard for signs of betrayal? If one looks, one will find. I mean, don’t we have WORK to do?</p>
<p>Onward!</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What we should be pissed off about is that he has stalled the work of his committee, while committee chair as much as if he was a pet rock.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, it’s perfectly acceptable to be piss’d off at Short Ride for both his actions against the Dems on the campaign trail AND his refusal to perform any oversight of the Bush Admin, including his failure to hold the promised Katrina related hearings.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are not mutually exclusive by any means.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What we should be pissed off about is that he has stalled the work of his committee, while committee chair as much as if he was a pet rock.</p>
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<p>Actually, it’s perfectly acceptable to be piss’d off at Short Ride for both his actions against the Dems on the campaign trail AND his refusal to perform any oversight of the Bush Admin, including his failure to hold the promised Katrina related hearings.  </p>
<p>They are not mutually exclusive by any means.</p>
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