Comments on: Howard Dean on Lieberman: “I never looked into what he was doing as the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.” http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/ Firedoglake weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:17:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: fahrender http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731654 fahrender Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:51:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731654 <p>Joe Lieberman probably has the brain cells and synapses to be competent. What he does not have is the moral fiber and sense of loyalty to be trusted.<br /> The Senate Democratic Caucus chose to close ranks and cover it’s collective arse rather than make what would have been, at least in their own eyes, a bold, risky move.<br /> we can rage and squawk about it all we want but we need to do the math, check the lists and proceed with the process which does make them quake: Primary Challenges. no instant gratification there, but only there is it possible to really make Change happen. that, and unrelenting ankle-biting.<br /> i just coughed up a benjamin to Accountability Now. if you’re angry and you know it, try it too.</p> <p>and i’m still very much on board with Howard Dean. i don’t agree with him on this but, you know what? nobody’s perfect, and, Howard Dean has really paid his dues. what that tells me is, although we’d like to hang Jomentum’s flabby, wrinkled bootie on a clothes line there are other points of view that have validity.</p> Joe Lieberman probably has the brain cells and synapses to be competent. What he does not have is the moral fiber and sense of loyalty to be trusted.
The Senate Democratic Caucus chose to close ranks and cover it’s collective arse rather than make what would have been, at least in their own eyes, a bold, risky move.
we can rage and squawk about it all we want but we need to do the math, check the lists and proceed with the process which does make them quake: Primary Challenges. no instant gratification there, but only there is it possible to really make Change happen. that, and unrelenting ankle-biting.
i just coughed up a benjamin to Accountability Now. if you’re angry and you know it, try it too.

and i’m still very much on board with Howard Dean. i don’t agree with him on this but, you know what? nobody’s perfect, and, Howard Dean has really paid his dues. what that tells me is, although we’d like to hang Jomentum’s flabby, wrinkled bootie on a clothes line there are other points of view that have validity.

]]> By: johnpolansky http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731441 johnpolansky Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:29:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731441 <p>While I agree with the overall ”Lieberman should be outed” meme I think the Jane Hamsher ”gotcha” moment with Dean needs to be put in perspective. Jane, have you evaluated the other Senate committee chairmanships over the last 2 years? Are they all qualified to continue their chairmanships? Please run those down for us…</p> While I agree with the overall ”Lieberman should be outed” meme I think the Jane Hamsher ”gotcha” moment with Dean needs to be put in perspective. Jane, have you evaluated the other Senate committee chairmanships over the last 2 years? Are they all qualified to continue their chairmanships? Please run those down for us…

]]> By: raven333 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731247 raven333 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:38:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731247 <p>Not revenge. Justice.</p> Not revenge. Justice.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731204 MarkH Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:23:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731204 <blockquote><p>What part of change do they not understand?</p></blockquote> <p>It’s the ‘e’ at the end. It’s silent.</p>

What part of change do they not understand?

It’s the ‘e’ at the end. It’s silent.

]]> By: Valley Girl http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731179 Valley Girl Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:08:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731179 <p>Hey Priscilla- glad you were still reading. I am so f*cking pissed off. Like seriously. Like totally. What a bunch of nonsense from Dean. It read that way to me, anyway. I am still fuming.</p> Hey Priscilla- glad you were still reading. I am so f*cking pissed off. Like seriously. Like totally. What a bunch of nonsense from Dean. It read that way to me, anyway. I am still fuming.

]]> By: Maverick80229 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731172 Maverick80229 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:59:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731172 <p>From the article:</p> <p>JANE HAMSHER: But do you think that’s something that the Senate should’ve looked at in deciding whether to give him the gavel or not?</p> <p>HOWARD DEAN: Well, I hope they did.</p> <p>++++++++++++++++++++++</p> <p>Jeez…</p> <p>Doesn’t this sound like the Patriot Act scenario all over again?</p> <p>Jeez…</p> From the article:

JANE HAMSHER: But do you think that’s something that the Senate should’ve looked at in deciding whether to give him the gavel or not?

HOWARD DEAN: Well, I hope they did.

++++++++++++++++++++++

Jeez…

Doesn’t this sound like the Patriot Act scenario all over again?

Jeez…

]]> By: PriscillaQOB http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731170 PriscillaQOB Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:58:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731170 <p>Hey Valley Girl. Back at ya! I’m just fuming over all this nonsense. I was late to the party too but I’m glad I came and glad you stopped by too!</p> Hey Valley Girl. Back at ya! I’m just fuming over all this nonsense. I was late to the party too but I’m glad I came and glad you stopped by too!

]]> By: Rebellitor http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731166 Rebellitor Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:52:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731166 <p>I’m outraged by Dean’s responses, and I do feel he’s let us down. </p> <p>We were most certainly not elected to end partisanship. “We” were elected to end the financial turmoil, the illegal war, the destruction of the environment, and on those issues and more, Lieberman fails. </p> <p>I’ve written my Senator and demanded an explanation, and I suggest you all write to yours. And I’ve put Kerry on notice, if I don’t see some meaningful responses, publicly, he’s lost my vote and I’ll campaign and raise money for a replacement. Because this must end. </p> <p>It most certainly is not about revenge, Dean. It’s about capability.</p> I’m outraged by Dean’s responses, and I do feel he’s let us down.

We were most certainly not elected to end partisanship. “We” were elected to end the financial turmoil, the illegal war, the destruction of the environment, and on those issues and more, Lieberman fails.

I’ve written my Senator and demanded an explanation, and I suggest you all write to yours. And I’ve put Kerry on notice, if I don’t see some meaningful responses, publicly, he’s lost my vote and I’ll campaign and raise money for a replacement. Because this must end.

It most certainly is not about revenge, Dean. It’s about capability.

]]> By: Valley Girl http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731163 Valley Girl Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:52:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731163 <p>Hello there, Prisilla. Nice to see you. And, I agree with your comments.</p> <p>I am really late in reading this thread and all the comments.</p> <p>Great job, Jane. I hope Chairman Dean takes time to read this thread.</p> <p>And, btw, f*ck Holy Joe and all the trojan horses’ asses he rode in on.</p> Hello there, Prisilla. Nice to see you. And, I agree with your comments.

I am really late in reading this thread and all the comments.

Great job, Jane. I hope Chairman Dean takes time to read this thread.

And, btw, f*ck Holy Joe and all the trojan horses’ asses he rode in on.

]]> By: PriscillaQOB http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731151 PriscillaQOB Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:44:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/18/howard-dean-on-lieberman-i-never-looked-into-what-he-was-doing-as-the-chairman-of-the-homeland-security-committee/#comment-1731151 <p>Here’s my boilerplate response to ALL Democratic appeals for money:</p> <p>No, thank you. Why?<br /><strong></strong></p> <p>LIEBERMAN</p> <p>PROP 8</p> <p>WALL STREET BAILOUT</p> <p>FISA</p> <p>ROBERTS</p> <p>ALITO</p> <p>BANKRUPTCY BILL</p> <p>NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND</p> <p>IRAQ WAR</p> <p>GUANTANAMO</p> <p>DOMA</p> <p>DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL</p> <p>WELFARE REFORM</p> <p>BANKING DEREGULATION</p> <p>And I could go on and on. All brought to the American taxpayer with full DEMOCRATIC PARTY support.</p> <p>Enough is enough!</p> <p>NO!</p> Here’s my boilerplate response to ALL Democratic appeals for money:

No, thank you. Why?

LIEBERMAN

PROP 8

WALL STREET BAILOUT

FISA

ROBERTS

ALITO

BANKRUPTCY BILL

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

IRAQ WAR

GUANTANAMO

DOMA

DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL

WELFARE REFORM

BANKING DEREGULATION

And I could go on and on. All brought to the American taxpayer with full DEMOCRATIC PARTY support.

Enough is enough!

NO!

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