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I was watching Dana "Pig Missile" Perino on CSPAN this morning, explaining how George Bush is in favor of helping GM. But he wants to take the $25 billion in loans to automakers from the 2007 Energy Bill and repurpose them, he doesn’t want to use funds from the $700 billion Wall Street bailout (which Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have indicated they would like to do).
Congress approved the funds for a Department of Energy program that would help the automakers to develop fuel-efficient vehicles.
Got that? George Bush wants to kill the program that would build more fuel-efficient vehicles.
Nobody at the press conference called Perino on it.
Big Oil, still in the White House.
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george is missbegotten
“Pig Missle” is funny as hell- but I think I’m missing the background for it….Why “Pig Missle”?
and surely planets will collide,for i agree with numbnutz Inhoffe
Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) is making waves by criticizing Treasury Secretary Paulson’s handling of the bailout and saying that Congress should take back whatever is left of the $700 billion “blank check” it issued to the Bush administration in October.
I was wondering what happened to DAD Dana. A preposterous trade-off. Help themn with one handf and take away funding taht would help them (and us) with another. Think he mentioned this to Obama when he brought it up at their meeting? Doubt it.
she had no idea what the cuban missle crisis BAY OF PIGS was iirc
Thanks—
she supposedly once asked of the cuban missile crisis: “wasn’t that like the bay of pigs?”
History major from Liberty University?
Nobody at the press conference called Perino on it.
FEAR NOT
we have a dem president ,and all will reaquire their missing brains….you can count on it
It’s not just Big Oil. It’s Arab Oil.
When Jeb starts sniffing around to run for President, let’s all
try to remember that the Bush family is a family of Arab Oil Toadies.
Well with her demonstrated grasp of the issues perhaps the press felt out of her league. /s
unf*ckingbelieveable
Thanks Jane.
So lets throw money at ‘em without any incentive to restructure or to produce cars that would reduce dependence on foreign oil and actually sell? This is why Bush is the Worst. President. Ever.
digg
hell has frozen over again? first issa (last week during during kucinich’s hearing) and now inhofe.
i must be in some kind of parallel universe. or is this is twilight zone?
he was never president,he has NO IDEA what so ever what is going on,but the cabal that does
IS PURE EVIL
The White House press corpse is still dead.
it is too creepy for words
and Dodd supports rape gurney Joe
on or abouts Jan 21st the mist will clear,and they will be brillant “g”
He’s a credit to his alma mater./s
Heh. Given some of Obama’s friends and his policies, coupled with some of the Rs waking up …
The seemingly permanent fog will suddenly lift and an aura will fill the room with light. Very Tolkienish.
Except for Helen Thomas! But she is rarely called on for questions… she might actually ask something thats demands a real answer!!
Pig Missile?
BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!
Dugg
You will all be amused to note that W’s still the petulant foreign policy decider. In a hissy fit because Australian PM Rudd called him out on not knowing what G20 is, W left Rudd’s picture out of the photo album.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/17/rudd-bush-g20/
hehehehehehehehehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX_g3GG-ng8
Hey Busted you finally drying out up there? I know my two sons couldn’t wait for the rain to stop so they could do some fishing! They caught a 30″ Steelhead yesterday!
petulant LITTLE pissant…gahhhhhhhhhh 62 more daze
Going to start in again mid week, just long enough to scrape the moss off.
Perino was born in Evanston, Wyoming, and grew up in Denver, Colorado, USA and is Italian-American. She attended Ponderosa High School in Parker, Colorado, a suburb of Denver.[1] Perino graduated from the University of Southern Colorado (now known as Colorado State University-Pueblo) in 1994 with a bachelor’s degree in mass communications and minors in both political science and Spanish. While attending the university, Perino was active on the debate team and with KTSC-TV, the campus-based Rocky Mountain PBS affiliate where she served as host of Capitol Journal, a weekly summary of Colorado politics, and producer of Standoff, a weekly public affairs program. From there, Perino attended graduate school at the University of Illinois at Springfield (UIS).[2] Perino obtained her masters at UIS in Public Affairs Reporting while also working as a daily reporter covering the Illinois Capitol for WCIA-TV, a CBS affiliate.
Most Oregonians don’t wait for the rain to stop for Steelhead fishing. Rain is part of the “sport”.
Oh, Jane. Dana Perino as “Pig Missile. But pigs are smart. Perino not so much.
Perino did actually go to college. But being a loyal Bushie she does not let facts get in the way of her duty to lie as often as possible.
Ponderosa High School? Can’t get the Bonanza theme outta my head now.
As one of his constituents, I can assure you that if Inhofe happens to do or say anything remotely intelligent, that achievement is a totally random occurrence. Think monkeys happening to type the Gettysburg Address.
LMAO.
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say’s something about bush’s advisors too. talk about living in a bubble.
This won’t help. For any youngsters on the board:
Bonanza Theme.
Not when the water is too high and or dirty.. My oldest has turned into a very knowledgeable fisherman and goes as often as possible! Of course being a Nurse with four days a week off helps! He has many friends who are guides and he takes advantage of them as much as possible.
yes, but the shock – especially right after issa’s performance last week with kucinich – well, it has me a bit stunned.
GWB actually deserving an MBA from Harvard is like monkeys randomly typing up the theory of relativity. There again is the reason for calling him Chimp.
The lack of simple knowledge all around is really amazing. I have come to expect it from some parties (W, Perino, Palin, for example), but am surprised at what is beginning to be revealed about some other people who shall remain nameless.
Lady Palin
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The US Auto Industry along with oil, who owns patent to electric car have placed their myopic self interest(s) before the nation’s self interest. For 35 years they have acted in collusion with oil to keep America addicted to Oil as a crack addict is addicted to crack, or a drunk to booze.
Aristocrats have bled America as Jefferson warned. Now they continue the “evisceration” hording liberty while holding the governed hostage, for their inability to adapt? Jefferson would be in a padded cell by now!
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people.”
Amazing how religious fundamentalist and whack-jobs will thump the bible, embracing fear of a after-life in hell, rather than the homage of reason. Meanwhile the prophetic wisdom of an American founder, whose attempts to cure America’s birth defect, slavery, within the “Declaration of Independence,” opposed by white slave/land owners of the south, is still ignored………………
He didn’t earn the MBA, but it was “purchased” for him.
Palin: the face of the Republics for years to come…unless Newt can slap her down.
No. The White House press corpse is not completely dead.
Provided we can persuade Helen Thomas to retain her chair in the front row and teach the young’uns how it’s done.
Back on topic…
This has to be one of the better pieces I’ve seen from the Detroit Free Press in a long time, very helpful: 6 myths about the Detroit Three
Some of you are still clinging to these myths.
Clearly.
fuck a George Bush . . .
driving by with a little good news o/t
Senator Kennedy to work and receive treatments in DC
First someone must convince the young’uns that their job is not a perpetual audition for Fox News.
A $22,000 watch?! The kind that tells time, that kind of watch?
For that kinda money, I want a watch that gives me orgasms every hour, on the hour.
where’s that from sadly?
Seeing Senator Ted with the robust spirit that never flags was a moment to cheer…almost-President Obama needs all his allies around him now more than ever. Team of Rivals, maybe, but I’ll take the Lion any day.
No, I think we’re returning to our normal universe, after seven years in some other one. About time, too.
That is simply stunning, even for him.
After Palin nothing surprises me.
fabulously straightforward !
We shouldn’t be bailing any of them out. The best thing that can be done is to get the UAW off their backs for awhile until they can get some things figured out. Tax payers keep putting more and more money into a broken industry with few results.
yes. do you think it is an ego thing – don’t want to admit their ignorance? or is it a lack of curiousity? or is it that their advisors like to to keep them ignorant?
one thing daniel ellsberg wrote about – i think in his book Secrets, but i haven’t been able to find it (should try again), was the dangers of having access to “insider’s info.” that it biased one to both not look at public sources and to put undue weight on the inside info rather than checking it out. imo, he made a very good argument and it was even more convincing because of his own experience of seeing the phenomena in action.
Mark Cuban, the controversial owner of the National Basketball Association’s Dallas Mavericks, was charged with insider trading Monday by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
The Texas billionaire businessman was charged with selling 600,000 shares of stock from an Internet search engine company, Mamma.com Incorporated, based on non-public information regarding an impending stock offering by the firm.
huffpo
Hmm thinking about that.
I get that, but come on.
If you told a 5th grader what the G7 was, and then asked them what the G20 was conceptually, at least half of them would get it right; not the exact countries, but the concept.
And this man is trusted with nuclear codes.
Wow.
Patek Philippe watch $22,000
These watches are a must-have among the very rich. A $7000 Rolex is for poor people. Joe Sixpack, my arse.
Agree with both your points. By the time you get to a high position in the country, there’s no way you’ll admit to not knowing something. (Whereas I can freely announce I don’t know something.)
Hadn’t thought about the unintended consequence of inside information, but it makes sense. I was able to figure out there were no WMDs in Iraq from publicly available information, but the insiders kept holding onto those 3 shreds of information to the contrary (aluminum tubes, yellowcake, mobile bio labs), which were clearly ludicrous to an outsider.
And by the time you get to high office, you no longer have time to do what I did when you don’t know something: sit down & read, or otherwise research the subject until satisfied that it is understood properly.
So high office holders are at the mercy of their advisors, which is why you & I are spending so much time on that subject.
Cheney, not the Decider, probably keeps the codes.
You have a point. I’d never heard of G20 either (where have I been all my life), but the minute I heard it I accurately figured out what it was, and why, without being able to name all the countries without looking them up.
*Still visualizing monkeys clacking away at keyboards.*
Why design new cars just license the Atera.
http://www.aptera.com/
Scale the car up to a bigger size and a biggest size and sell. the less different models the fewer spare parts the less cost.
dakine has a diary on this over at Oxdown -
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/ph…..;highlight
My bold for trucks there is Oshkosh
I have had my fill of mavericks.
Did I mention that Aptera and Oshkosh are American companies?
Cuban thought his ass was protected. Who did he piss off? With our surveillance state as it is, there must be dozens of people who are privy to insider information. They just have to make sure their asses are covered, in case they get caught.
Goldman Sachs has been murdering stock prices for years – manipulating share prices – especially driving them down with naked short selling. They suffer no ill effects. GS has friends in high places – former Company Officers – Sec Paulson, Kashkari, Rubin, to name three.
They could get better…
i think this ability is something to try to hold on to not matter what one’s position is. when i applied to school, one of the profs who interviewed me said something interesting:
i can work on the ignorance, which imo requires being able to recognize it. not much i can do about the stupidity.
btw – on the subject of advisors. i’ve been going through the transition team lists (link from laura rozen)
wheres the fucking 2 trillion dolars the paulson,bernake whores have given out? That’s the elephant in the room. What a joke of a people.
Lots of cloths for Women I’m not seeing much for kids or men I think. Lots of groups of three for cloths I assume for the daughters, Todd and her son in the army not so much or is there more stuff we don’t know Sarah bought yet?
saw a front page over at Kos to indicate we are getting net neutrality friendlies
Big Orange
Are you talking about Federal Reserve loans to banks for questionable collateral? That would be Helicopter Ben not Paulson although Paulson probably knew about it.
And Americans could stop being spoiled, whiny babies about not having Hummers and 9-passenger SUVs and convertible Cadillac-brand trucks, too.
Somebody told the automakers they wanted those vehicles — and they built them. Chicken or the egg first here, alank?
LOL not being photographed with Bush is a boon to any political career. I expect Obama to try and limit any photos of him and Bush together.
I expect Bush though to push for it cause he always wanted to hang with the cool kids.
That’s quite a list. Never heard of most of them.
Miscik, though, sticks out as a particulary bad dude. Not only her luving her some Iraq WMDs when she was at CIA, but also she was Global Head of Sovereign Risk at Lehman. Anyone who had a high level job there should automatically be disqualified from a responsible job anywhere else.
I did read somewhere that O went out of his way not to have many photo ops on his WH visit.
Bubba Bush was never about governing. For him, that would be a contradiction in terms. He’s a political embezzler, a pedigreed watch dog with fleas.
He’s always raiding the hen house himself, or leaving the door open for his fox friends. When he complains that the farmer keeps him on so short leash that he can’t git his work done, the exhausted farmer lets him off his leash it. And, whoosh, all the neighborhood hen houses are soon empty. The foxes git so fat, they should live in the hog pen; and George wanders off, looking for another sucker farmer to put him charge of the farmyard.
No, Bush and his cohort are not about governing. They view government as 19th century Robber Barons viewed the environment: as an inexhaustible source of untaxed wealth. Citizens and taxpayers (more fools, they) are like American Indians, left to wander the plains strewn with buffalo carcasses, the mountaintops that have been plunged into stream beds for an ounce of coal, and the forests, where the largest tree is just large enough to make a foot stool.
Thats the White House story I’m guessing nobody in the world wants a picture next to a person the voters in their country consider a warcriminal. Bush not wanting to many photos is an excuse the G20 meet was suppose to be a photo op.
I bet many went just because they thought they could see Obama and talk with him.
Bush got pissed and Obama decided not to go is the likely story.
Detroit is famous for selling what it has, not what American consumers want, what Detroit calls marketing. Trucks and their SUV variants are cheaper to manufacture than cars, and more profitable. Plenty of Americans bought better-designed, more fuel efficient cars from Japanese and Korean makers. That’s one reason Detroit is in trouble.
Aid for Big Auto is not inherently bad. Neither is paying for “free” highways and bridges, or for a health care system that spends money on care givers, instead of insurers whose profit depends on care not being given. That aid should not finance business as usual or AIG- or Carly Fiorina-style handouts to top managers. Many of them should be scrapped like a bad paint job.
But we aren’t Japan or China, we have no MITI or ministry of economic trade and development, arguing government’s priorities in these loan negotiations. US Government decision-making is dispersed. We have a president who thinks the only good regulator is a dead regulator, who thinks it unchristian to make demands on his fellow bidnessmen. We have a few department heads, like Hank Paulson, who work for him and who are only months away from their Wall Street jobs, and are destined to return to something equally lucrative. And we have a few CongressCritters, waiting to see what the lobbyist farm hands will slop into the trough.
The funny thing about these watches is they are self winding, not battery operated. You can buy a gismo that winds them or wearing them does it, but they are subject to winding down and giving the wrong time. A ten buck Timex keeps more reliable time. It is another illustration of things the wealthy do to impress peons, like mansions so large they lose all human scale and are uncomfortable no matter how many servants. If you want a sandwich you ring the bell or whatever and until the servant gets your order and gets the sandwich, it’s ten minutes or more between desire and fulfillment. Much easier to go to the refrigerator and do it yourself.
You and I can argue all day about which comes first, the chicken or the egg — the crippled automakers, or the people who made them what they are.
But the most important bit you said is right here:
There comes a time when change cannot be driven from the bottom up alone, it must be driven from the top down as well. And I’m pretty sure that all of us who are regulars at FDL can agree we have had no leadership to drive change from the top down for a very fricking long time.
Further, there is no leadership arguing the priority not of government, or of the companies, or of the people as separate entities, but of a NATION as a system and not a collection of parts.