At that time, in 2003, President Taylor’s army was fighting warlords who had organized as Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy (LURD). Taylor was Christian in his rhetoric, LURD’s troops were ostensibly Muslim. Murder, rape, and amputations were the norm for both sides as they moved through the villages of Liberia. LURD’s actions forced thousands of refugees into the capital city of Monrovia and into abject poverty as displaced persons
“Power, money, ethnicity, greed, are no excuse for what happened to the children of Liberia,” who joined sides and took up arms, engaging in grisly acts of violence, explains Leymah Gbowee in the documentary directed by Gini Reticker and produced by Abigail Disney. Then came an epiphany says Gbowee:
I had a dream. It was like a crazy dream, it was somebody telling me to get the women of the church together to pray for peace.
From her church, the desire for peace spread to other denominations and into the mosques when Muslim women were recruited for the movement. Asks Gbowee:
Can the bullet pick and choose, does the bullet know the difference between Christian and Muslim?
The women spoke to their pastors and imans, recruited women from the refugee camps to join them, and then, wrapping their hair in white kerchiefs and wearing white shirts, they took over a field by a fish market where Taylor regularly drove by…but he wouldn’t speak with them. The women withdrew sex from their men, who in turn prayed for peace. Public pressure grew, and Taylor finally agreed to meet with them, as did the leaders of LURD. There was no resolution to the war, but progress was being made. Peace talks were announced, to be held in Ghana.
And so some of the women went while others stayed in the field, a constant reminder that peace was necessary. And as Monrovia was invaded and held under siege, as the talks stalled while their families’ fates were uncertain, the women staged a sit-in at the peace talks, refusing to let representatives of the warring factions out of the building until they had reached an agreement, propelling peace to the region as President Taylor was indicted for war crimes.
Upon their return from Ghana, the women were greeted as heroines. For two and half years, every-day members of the group sat in the field outside the fish market singing, praying and talking for peace while others worked in journalism and the police department to spread news and gather information and others traveled to meet with LURD leaders and delegates to the peace conference. With the arrival of the UN peacekeeping force, the women helped with disarming the militias, something the “experts” could not do peacefully.
And in the end, their force and their energy was directly responsible for the election of Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf. “Vote for the Woman” reads one of the election signs.
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Tonight we have Gini Reticker the director of Pray the Devil Back to Hell and we are honored to have one of the film’s amazing women Janet Johnson Bryant with us as well.
Thank you for such a powerful movie and most importantly for bringing about peace. I was so moved and inspired to see how much you ladies accomplished.
Lisa
Thanks so much for having us
Gini, filming there must have been incredibly intense. How did the government treat you? The people? And the footage you got of the war scenes and war crimes–devastating…
How did you discover this story?
I just finished watching it – it was indeed very uplifting and powerful.
Welcome, Gini! How would you describe the difference between how woman and mothers are viewed in Liberian culture vs. American culture? Could something like this work here?
Oh, and welcome, Janet! My question might be better directed at you, actually.
And Eli sort of dovetails wiht a question/comment I had: One thing that struck me was the disconnect of the soldiers–Here they were raping women young girls, yet they spoke reverently you, and of women, referring to “mothers and sisters.” Here you had this sacred power, yet at the same time these men were destroying the lives of women, and then that handed over their guns to you…
Actually we were treated extremely well. We were not actually there shooting during the war. All of that footage was shot by journalists — Liberian, British, American, Japanese — who were there covering the war. Everyone that we met was super glad that we were telling the story of the women in white!
Hi Gini, Pardon me if my first question is about the last song playing in the credits. Who is the artist, por favor? Just beautiful music wrapping up an extraordinary film.
hello everyone; This is Janet
Hi Janet, thank you for joining us!
Yes, I was wondering about that as well.
The way that we found the story is that the producer Abby Disney was in Liberia in 2006 in support of Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the first woman head of state on the African continent. While she was there, she kept hearing bits and pieces of how the women were instrumental in bringing peace to the country. She couldn’t believe that the story was unknown. She decided that she had to get the story out there. I had been making documentaries for years, and Abby and I ran into each other at the exact moment that she had decided to make a film. So, we moved on from there.
The last song in the film was composed by Blake Leyh and Angelique Kidjo. Angelique does the vocals.
Yes Lisa, this was the situation. The rebels would address a woman as mother and at the same moment rape the very person. The excuse given was that they were under the inflence of drugs. The civil war was just senseless.
1,829 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Lisa Derrick and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Now that’s what I’m talkin’ about…yeah!! Now that they’ve prayed the Devil back to hell, can they send the rest of organized religion with ‘im?!!
There is no better example of why all non-Africans need to get the fuck off of the continent and let the Africans, northern and southern, put the continent and it’s civilizations back together.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE WAR IS NOW IN OUR LIVINGROOMS!
http://atheism.about.com/libra…..taylor.htm
Lord of the Flies
Oh I thik religion has it’s place, and in Pray,,,it was form the churches and then the mospues that the women united. I thought that was awesome, that religious differences were overcome by the power of love
Where did the title of the film come from? It’s sounds familiar to me (I’m a pastor), but I can’t place it apart from this film.
I don’t know if there is a difference in the way that mothers are viewed in Liberia than the way the are here. As a filmmaker, I always look for the things that I have in common with the people I am portraying, the universal story.
Can you imagine how George Bush and Dick Cheney would have responded if their mothers, daughters, sisters, or grandmothers had surrounded a hall they were in an threatened to strip naked if they didn’t negotiate a peace treaty in good faith? I imagine that would have got their attention.
(sorry about the typos in previous comment–the dog was helping)
Janet, I was so impressed by your being able to just make that announcement for the women’s call to peace, that was astounding. What was the freedom of the media like under Taylor? Were you at any risk doing that?
Were any of you afraid that you would be “disappeared” like the peace workers in El Salvador during the 1980s?
Thank you so much for being here! What an honor to have such important storytellers joining us at FDL.
It’s so important for us all to see that regular people working together can have such an impact – and I’m curious whether the women continue to work together?
Cindy Sheehan and her Gold Star Mothers didn’t seem to have much effect on Bush, but maybe that’s because they kept their clothes on.
After all of that.. I was amazed at the shock value /power a woman’s nudity had a one point.
Thank you.
Citizen Lisa Derrick:
“I thought that was awesome, that religious differences were overcome by the power of love.”
Bless you heart dear…indeed, it was the power of LOVE not the power of religion or the churches or the mosques that vanquished the devil of war. If those brave women can now send the churches and mosques and the leaders of the organized religions back to hell they may have a chance to keep war out of their lives forever.
The title of the film came from a comment that Leymah Gbowee, the leader of the women’s mass action campaign said. She said,”Charles Taylor could pray the devil out of hell.” It seemed to me that when the women of different faiths joined together to pressure their perspective religious leaders through non-violent action, they were praying the devil back to hell.
I felt from viewing the film that religion took a backseat to the issues of power and control of the country’s wealth. That faith was not the dividing point point but who would get rich…Maybe the filmmakers have some perspective on that?
Norske, old pal . . .
From the post: “From her church, the desire for peace spread to other denominations and into the mosques when Muslim women were recruited for the movement.”
For once, just this once, could you keep your own anti-religious fervor to yourself? Why can you not let the women have their religious beliefs?
I think that the warring factions used religion to the flames of war so that they could get power and wealth. Leymah Gbowee describes it as having evil forces hijack people’s faith for their own nefarious desires.
Were the women evry worried about their safety and that of thier families–I mena they were being very bold, and Taylor seems pretty fricking evil
Did Ellen Sirleaf have any role in bringing peace? What made her the peace movement’s candidate of choice?
(I’m not suggesting she’s unworthy, but she just kind of dropped out of nowhere at the end of the movie.)
I am sure that Janet can speak to this further, but from what I have heard Leymah say is that she was no longer afraid. That for 14 years, all the Liberians had known was fear. That the rebel forces were closing in on Monrovia from all sides of the city, that they were surrounded and the only way out was to confront the warring factions and demand peace. They were more worried about their families if they didn’t take action than if they did.
Janet, how have things changed in Liberia since this film was made? Has peace truly taken root, or is turmoil still just beneath the surface?
All Liberians remain grateful to George Bush for being instrumental in getting Taylor out of Liberia. Taylor was a tyrant who allowed nothing to stand between him and his selfish desires for wealth. Liberians remain grateful to the US for its involvement in restoring sanity to the country. Too bad that some dont see it that way.
Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, who has a long history in Liberian politics, was not in the country when the women’s mass action campaign to place. In the election, there were thirteen candidates in the first round. It became a run-off between Sirleaf and George Weah, a popular soccer player. I think that the women saw Ellen as more competent, recognized the work she had done in support of women through her support of women’s organizations, and felt she would be able to lead the country better. So they really got behind her.
Welcome, Gina. So good to have you here.
What kind of distribution has the film had?
Janet, what was the media like under Taylor–you were a radio reporter, was there censorship of the media? were the newspapers syate owned?
and also on another track, it struck me as so painful to know Liberia was founded by freed slaves form America, yet they in turn oppressed the native peopel…
The coming together of women from both religions neutralized the propaganda of war-lords who used religion to obtain funding for the war. The coming together of the women also turned a new page in Liberian history as it now provide space for women of both religions to interact act support each others programs in the interest of their children, in particular and the nation in general.
Citizen Peterr:
Did I hear you say what most preachers and religious hucksters always advance in defense of themselves when faced with the truth: “Keep your own anti-religious fervor to yourself”?
How is that any different from the Mormons who attack human rights behind the power of their institution and then try and shut up the victims of their bigotry by shouting “religious freedom”…the short answer to you is: Hell no I won’t stop criticizing organized religion and I sure as hell won’t let anyone even try and take my right to cricize it away.
Shame on you Peterr!
It is great to be here answering questions.
Pray the Devil Back to Hell is opening theatrically in ten cities: New York, San Francisco, Washington DC, LA, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Portland, Seattle, St. Louis. Check the website for times at Praythedevilbacktohell.com. We hope to expand outward from there.
In addition, we have shown the film to women in conflict zones around the world: Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Colombia, Jerusalem, Palestine, Georgia. It is incredible. Women everywhere recognize themselves in the film.
We will also be broadcast in 2010 on public television. Pray the Devil Back to Hell will kick off a series on PBS on Women, War & Peace that Abigail Disney and I are producing.
What portion of the population are Muslims, Christians, and is there a dominant Christian sect or is it the usual mix?
That is sooo wonderful and beautiful and life affirming–I truly felt you women manifested the true essence of feminine glory in what you did. It was stunning. Thank you so much for showing me the power that we as women have by virtue of being the gender we are.
I will be very glad to see this movie. Thank you so much for making it.
Do you ever want to go back and stay there for a while? Did the women make a huge impression on you?
This seems like the power that can move mountains.
Norske, I was asking you to respect the beliefs of the guests who are here to talk about their film and their country. Like the Book Salons and Blue America threads, we have guests here to talk about themselves and their project.
Let’s leave our own debates to the side for the evening. That’s all I was trying to say.
Lisa, working as a journalist under Taylor was not easy. I got caught up behind rebel lines but with the help of God nothing bad happened to me. I was also a frontline reporter and many occasions one felt that death could come at any time. My life was threatened on many occasions and twice, I had to leave the country (1996- for 6 months, and 2003- for 9 weeks). During both periods there was total anarchy. There was no government, no security, it was survival of the fittestr. Those who oppsed Taylor in any shape or form could be killed or severely beaten by his fighter. Though some of us were marked, we went through it all unharmed. That’s the mercy of God.
Thank you gentlemen, both Peterr and Norske.
Janet how did you and the other ladies meet? Through friends? Churches and mosques? Asatu was really awesome, giving you info for security–and what is she doing now?
Making the film had a powerful impact on me. I have always been a feminist . . . I grew up in a house of eleven kids, seven girls. Seeing the limited options that were available to women my mother’s generation made a huge impression on me. As a doc filmmaker, I have often made stories about women. So in many ways, making Pray the Devil Back to Hell was a trajectory for me. But this was the biggest.
It is amazing, though, how in letting the women tell their own story, in their own voices, without any narrator, there is some deep vein of universal truth that got tapped. I hope we can move mountains with the film.
Peace is a process.
I loved that line.
I’m trying to envision what the women of Jerusalem and Palestine might take home from viewing this film. If nothing else, the premiere of this film in those two places ought to worry a lot of the male leadership in the area.
I hope we can move mountains with the film.
I was just thinking we need to get this DVD distributed in both Afghanistan and Iraq, immediately.
Eureka,
I loved the line “Peace is a process, not an event” also. I had never thought of that before. I had never though about the process that takes place after the peace treaty is signed, or the fact that one can jump in and take part in the path to getting a peace treaty. That one line really made me think. When I saw the footage of the heavily armed drugged out young men and thought about forgiveness, it really made me think about the process of peace.
Yes! And the fact the women continued, I suppose through today.
…and quite possibly in the US Bible belt too.
Things have changed a lot in Liberia as compared to the days of anarchy and chaos. Liberians now enjoy a peaceful society. But unemployment remains high and poverty still permeates the society. This is because a country ravaged by more than a decade years of civil war does not overcome the plagues of poverty, homelessness, lack of basic social services overnight. The government is making significant strides but at a snail’s pace. Debts totalling some 4 billion dollars have been waved by the international community, roads are being built and rehabilitated by international partners. There is a high level of security in Liberia but corruption continues to plague the land. We look forward to more international support to ensure the provision of more jobs, health and education for youths that are 15 years behind their counterparts in other countries.
Or any place that is conflicted. War really has no winners only losers. One side may beat the other into submission but both sides lose no matter what!
Janet are you still working as a journalist in Liberia?
Eureka
We are working to get the film to women in conflict zones around the world.
As we have been in this on-line session, I just received word that Pray the Devil Back to Hell has been short-listed for an Academy Award. Very exciting news!
I don’t think US security forces would care one bit if they beat or gassed peacefully protesting women.
But everyone needs to see the movie.
Here is the movies netflix page. I plan on leaving a review later on.
Gini, that’s AWESOME!!! Wow!!! Congratulations to you and Abby and especially the women who did what they felt in their hearts and souls. Hopefully the awareness of their actions will continue to bring positive change to their country and the world
Asatu is an Assistant Police Chief in Liberia. I was the president of the Female journalists Association of Liberia. Many prominent and respectable women in Liberia were first recommend or invited to found the Women in Peace-building project, WIPNET, which at the time was a brain child of the regional group WANEP ( West African Peace-building Network). And so the press Union recommended my name to WANEP. Note that WIPNET started as a Peace-building group and later developed into pressure group.
Eureka,
you know the women in Liberia were very strategic . . .they got women from all sides of the conflict involved. At first they were ignored, then laughed at, then taken very seriously. They also were able to offer the whole country an exit strategy. Taylor’s men were secretly coming and giving the women money to continue their protest. If a soldier wanted to quit fighting, he risked being killed. Perhaps if we got the mothers, daughters, wives, sisters of the US security forces together, they wouldn’t want to gas or beat them.
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Thanks Lisa.
It is pretty thrilling.
That is Awesome news! I hope to be able to see this movie. (I live in a cinematically challenged area.) Congratulations!
May I ask how the radio stations were allowed to stay on the air? I was surprised peace activists announcements were allowed at all.
The women of Liberia continue to work together. Their non governmental organizations continue to seek funding to help provide educational support to the girl child, and Macro/micro economic support to the needy.
Perhaps. I would like to think so. If only it didn’t take such an enormous tragedy to bring folks together.
Ain’t that the truth!
Here’s the official press release. The final cut for the nominations will be January 22, 2009, with the Oscar ceremony itself following on February 22.
Good luck!
WooHoo on the Academy Award news – that’s brilliant!
And Janet, are there ways that we can support the movement in Liberia?
thanks peter!
Ellen had been the strongest female politician in Liberia for decades. During the military regime of the 80s, she was jailed for speaking out in the interest of the masses. She manage to flee the country in the 80s when the president Samuel Doe rigged the election ad was declared president. She remained in exile until the 1990s. She returned intermittently in the 90s after the death of Doe by rebels. By then Liberia had a large West African peace keeping force in Liberia. She was also workink with the World Bank and other international bodies outside of Liberia. Ellen participated in the presidential election of 1997 but lost to Taylor. She took second place in that election.
woohoo – how exciting and well deserved
for anyone who wants to help, on our website: praythedevilbacktohell.com, there is a list of organizations that you can get involved with that are currently working in Liberia.
Excellent!
thanks suzanne
Janet and Gini, thank you both for coming, and please let us know what we can do for Liberia, and thank you for sharing the great news about the Academy Awards!
And FDLers, thank you for making this a great evening. This was an awesome discussion, spurred by an amazing, inspiring movie
We were all worried about our safety but it was like you either confront the devil and pray him to hell or die like a coward and regret that you did not do something when you had life in you.
Lisa,
Thanks so much for having us. We would love everyone to see the film, go to the website to find out when it’s playing near you and what you can do to get involved!
PEACE!
Yes thank you all for the movie.. and thanks most of all to the women of Liberia.
Thanks Gini and Janet – for your film and your work and strength
And thanks Lisa for bringing us this great discussion!
No. I presently live in the US. I look forward to obtaining a scholarship to allow me attend Tufts University.
Thanks so much for being here and sharing.
That’s a quotable, IMO.
There are many ways the women’s movement can be supported in Liberia. One major way is to provide funding for their macro/micro projects. Because in the absence of a strong financial standing, men will continue to manipulate them. They also need educational support for their children especially the girls. Females journalists need support, both financial (better pay) and educational WIPNET needs to ne funded in order to continue to be the conscience of the society. and the list goes on….
Hold it, holier than though, man of the cloth Mullah Robertson is on record supporting a butcher like Taylor ’cause he was trying to protect his corrupt stake in a Liberian goldmine??????! God really really needs to get back into the smiting business…. Robertson as a piller of salt sounds good to me.
Radio stations that could afford to fuel their generators remained on the air. Journalists were harrassed and intimidated, sometimes beatened and jailed. Radio statios like Radio Veritas and Star radio were searched temporarily or permanently closed ( but later reopened)under and after Taylor’ regime.
At the PTDBTH website, you need to click on the “connect” button, and this will show you the different groups.
Okay everyone. I really enjoyed the chat with you all and appreciate you support for the women of Liberia. We hope that in our little way we can all contribute more to global peace. Thanks and good night to all.