Comments on: Nader Of The North http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:26:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727310 Blub Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:05:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727310 <p>you kdding? fiscal rethugs like that think China IS a democracy ;-P.</p> you kdding? fiscal rethugs like that think China IS a democracy ;-P.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727283 cinnamonape Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:45:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727283 <p>This is where I think the Impeachment powers really should be applied…”post-incumbency impeachment”.</p> <p>The impeachment provision doesn’t just apply for removing a sitting office-holder…it can be used to prevent individuals from receiving any “position of profit, honor or benefit under the United States”. That could block these individuals from EVER coming back into the government and keep them out of lobbying or jumping into their former beneficiaries that are receiving government contracts.</p> <p>Thus the threat of impeachment would keep current office-holders honest…and even if a President pardoned his current clutch of goslings they would have a hard time getting jobs with those that might have gotten the public wealth thrown their direction.</p> <p>Post-incumbency impeachment…a concept whose time has arrived!</p> This is where I think the Impeachment powers really should be applied…”post-incumbency impeachment”.

The impeachment provision doesn’t just apply for removing a sitting office-holder…it can be used to prevent individuals from receiving any “position of profit, honor or benefit under the United States”. That could block these individuals from EVER coming back into the government and keep them out of lobbying or jumping into their former beneficiaries that are receiving government contracts.

Thus the threat of impeachment would keep current office-holders honest…and even if a President pardoned his current clutch of goslings they would have a hard time getting jobs with those that might have gotten the public wealth thrown their direction.

Post-incumbency impeachment…a concept whose time has arrived!

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727265 cinnamonape Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:37:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727265 <p>“Makes one wonder just what it takes for a conservative to be discredited. Being consistently wrong about everything all the time just isn’t enough.”</p> <p>Ideology Uber Alles. It’s why they oppose any sort of Scientific Method or Historical or Cultural comparison with their ideas…instead preferring the mantra “we must get back to our principles”…even when those ideas have proven, time and again, to have failed.</p> <p>And get healthy Katymine! Were all pullin’ for you!</p> “Makes one wonder just what it takes for a conservative to be discredited. Being consistently wrong about everything all the time just isn’t enough.”

Ideology Uber Alles. It’s why they oppose any sort of Scientific Method or Historical or Cultural comparison with their ideas…instead preferring the mantra “we must get back to our principles”…even when those ideas have proven, time and again, to have failed.

And get healthy Katymine! Were all pullin’ for you!

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727246 cinnamonape Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:20:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727246 <p>Seems like the AIP and Byrd has a lot of support in the areas outside of Fairbanks (6,7,8) and on the Kenai Peninsula (District 33-34). He was drawing about 600-900 votes in those district precincts compared to a couple of hundred elsewhere. Hard to make judgements about these areas as Stevens did much better than Begich in the latter, but split with him evenly in the former. It’s pretty clear that within the cities, as well as in Mat-Su the AIP doesn’t have a lot of support, though.</p> Seems like the AIP and Byrd has a lot of support in the areas outside of Fairbanks (6,7,8) and on the Kenai Peninsula (District 33-34). He was drawing about 600-900 votes in those district precincts compared to a couple of hundred elsewhere. Hard to make judgements about these areas as Stevens did much better than Begich in the latter, but split with him evenly in the former. It’s pretty clear that within the cities, as well as in Mat-Su the AIP doesn’t have a lot of support, though.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727244 eCAHNomics Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:06:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727244 <p>I’ve also seen Volcker & Reich in airport waiting rooms, but they are dead giveaways: one’s taller than god and the other’s shorter.</p> I’ve also seen Volcker & Reich in airport waiting rooms, but they are dead giveaways: one’s taller than god and the other’s shorter.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727243 eCAHNomics Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:05:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727243 <p>I was working on Wall St., so I got out some reports from my firm to read. He took the bait & enquired if I worked there. He started out explaining why he was going home early (maybe it was a Thursday afternoon). It was because he was getting sick & had to go do a fundraiser in CA the next week. I asked why a NY sen would be raising funds in CA, and he said: wine industry. I asked him about NYS wine industry and he knew everything about it, including the concept of indirect economic benefits (suppliers to the industry). We talked about the U.S. medical industry (it was in the early 90s and I had already identified its economic problems and written about them). He knew all the stats about Canadian visits to hospitals in Buffalo. Then the person in the window seat (I was in middle) joined the conversation. He imported tropical fish and flew 250,000 miles/year. That led to conversation about pollution in oceans, etc., etc.</p> <p>More generally, when does anyone get to spend an hour in a one-on-one conversation with a U.S. senator? They really know a tremendous amount, regardless of party (well some of the R wingnuttier ones excepted) and are quick to bring that knowledge to bear in conversation.</p> I was working on Wall St., so I got out some reports from my firm to read. He took the bait & enquired if I worked there. He started out explaining why he was going home early (maybe it was a Thursday afternoon). It was because he was getting sick & had to go do a fundraiser in CA the next week. I asked why a NY sen would be raising funds in CA, and he said: wine industry. I asked him about NYS wine industry and he knew everything about it, including the concept of indirect economic benefits (suppliers to the industry). We talked about the U.S. medical industry (it was in the early 90s and I had already identified its economic problems and written about them). He knew all the stats about Canadian visits to hospitals in Buffalo. Then the person in the window seat (I was in middle) joined the conversation. He imported tropical fish and flew 250,000 miles/year. That led to conversation about pollution in oceans, etc., etc.

More generally, when does anyone get to spend an hour in a one-on-one conversation with a U.S. senator? They really know a tremendous amount, regardless of party (well some of the R wingnuttier ones excepted) and are quick to bring that knowledge to bear in conversation.

]]> By: TobyWollin http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727242 TobyWollin Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:04:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727242 <p>Just stupid.</p> Just stupid.

]]> By: jayt http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727241 jayt Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:04:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727241 <p><i>…this time it was THE Boner…… waiting at the gate for a flight……</i></p> <p>Was he drunk, and/or crying?</p> …this time it was THE Boner…… waiting at the gate for a flight……

Was he drunk, and/or crying?

]]> By: jayt http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727240 jayt Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:03:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727240 <p><i>Oh now Gertz is saying that the W admin did not interrogate terrorists hard enuf.</i></p> <p>okay - *now* I’m pissed.</p> <p>jhfc - what kind of morally bankrupt, reprehensible motherfucker does one have to be to, as of this day, proudly say that “I’m a republican”?</p> Oh now Gertz is saying that the W admin did not interrogate terrorists hard enuf.

okay – *now* I’m pissed.

jhfc – what kind of morally bankrupt, reprehensible motherfucker does one have to be to, as of this day, proudly say that “I’m a republican”?

]]> By: katymine http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727239 katymine Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:00:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/16/nader-of-the-north/#comment-1727239 <p>Elmore had another airport sighting…… this time it was THE Boner…… waiting at the gate for a flight…… Elmore was trying to see if his hands were as tanned as his face to see if it was a paint on tan or real…….. Elmore’s states he is oily</p> Elmore had another airport sighting…… this time it was THE Boner…… waiting at the gate for a flight…… Elmore was trying to see if his hands were as tanned as his face to see if it was a paint on tan or real…….. Elmore’s states he is oily

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