It’s hard to keep up with the public quasi-negotiations over the fate of Joe Lieberman, but I was struck by this comment by Sen. Pat Leahy, as quoted by Jane down below:
I felt that some of the attacks that he was involved in against Senator Obama …. I thought they went way beyond the pale, that they were not fair, that they were not legitimate, that they perpetuated some of these horrible myths that were run about Senator Obama.
Think about it. Holy Joe’s defenders have tried to grab the high moral ground against criticisms that Lieberman hasn’t been a loyal enough Democrat or might misuse his continued chairmanship of the Homeland Security commission by saying that ousting him would "hurt the message of bipartisanship and unity" that president-elect Barack Obama wants to send.
But that’s exactly the principle Lieberman violated with his insinuations that Obama consciously betrayed the best interests of the U.S. and American troops in Iraq for the sake of his political career. And it’s that principle which Democrats should explicitly stand behind as they strip him of his power.
Here’s one way they can do it: Currently, Lieberman’s allies in the Senate are suggesting that he apologize in order to retain his committee slot. In calling that bluff, I’d love to hear some prominent Dems point out that what he needs to apologize for, specifically and publicly, is engaging in partisan and uncivil rhetoric that ought to be out of bounds in describing a political opponent, much less someone he now claims to be a loyal ally and supporter of.
Will the Senate’s most famous self-appointed patron saint of civility be able to admit this, or will his head explode first? Granted, I’m okay if they skip the apology request and just say it’s why he’s no longer fit to lead a committee in a Democratic Congress.
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I think they should leave the whiny little weasel turncoat the Homeland Security Chair.
And then they should dissolve the entire HS committee.
I still remember Lieberman’s sanctimonious outcries regarding Monicagate. He just can’t restrain himself from assuming the mantle of self-righteous moral superiority, can he?
Sorry. Saw my shadow and went back underground for a bit.
LOL Welcome back!
I’m not holding my breath for JoeLie’s auto de fe
Apology, even if sincere, is laughably insufficient recompense for repeated, vicious betrayals. If Joe wants to feel better about being on the winning side, then grovel away. But, retention of the chair should be, must be, out of the question.
This is not a reneging of bipartisanship on Obama’s part. This is simply that actions have consequences.
lol! That’d work!
Hit the Road Joe
Thats all I have to say to Joeliarman!
I don’t care for Lieberman either, but aren’t we getting into overkill here?
I would like to remind everyone of something that for some reason has been forgotten;
cheney campaigned for lieberman in his senate race
let me repeat that, cheney endorsed lieberman in the senate race
nuff said
Hey Es thanks for opening Digg up!! Your a pal(:>))
joe has thrown a monkey wrench in the democratic partie’s agenda for quite some time now.
it’s not overkill getting him off of a committee that will be responsible for oversite when he refused to provide that oversite for his entire tenure
there is no reason for him to be on committee, he is attempting to blackmail the democrats into allowing him to remain, the democrats have cow towed this judas sheep for far too long
To my mind an apology is besides the point. Lieberman will say whatever is politically convenient for him to say.
His actions and deeds are of the extreme right and bipartisan in name only.
oh, that’s good!
i LIKE that SusanD!
like just everyone get up and leave and turn off the lights and leave his nasty turncoat ass in the dark.
he doesn’t even NEED to get the memo!
i like it!
maybe so but it ain’t over until it’s over. I believe the great sage yoggi said that.
[dugg]
If it keeps everyone from filibustering HRC for SOS we should keep discussing Holy Joe.
at the very least they need to change the frigging name, this is not “the homeland” as if we are some nazi propaganda machine, this is America and it’s “American security”
might be the number of topics re joe that is the problem for sttp.
god, i hope that gets revised. it does sound nazi.
it’s how we get things done here at the lake, we’re trying to do whatever is possible to insure joe is not on that committee.
Overkill? Suppose someone took a crowbar and broke your knees. While you’re on the ground, he pours acid on your face.
Would an apology make you invite him over for Lobster Thermidor?
lol
yeah perris, i know. i hate that, i always did!
it should be changed and American Security works great!
that name will always remind me of the nightmare of the Bush cabal, the 8 years of torture and general hell he turned my country into!
Hi Balrog! ;~)
Fibberman tried riding in on the wrong horse.
So…F*ck him, and the bowlegged nag.
;>)
yeah :/
Beautiful! At first I thought Beauty was feeling up the Beast.
ye gads man!
*shakes fist*
should have known when clicking on a db ;)
Hi Loo Hoo.
What on earth is Lobster Humidor?
Dang it! I thought you promised to retire if Obama was elected, DB…? 8-P
yes, I know. maybe sttp doesn’t.
Hot damn! Nate Silver has a really cool book deal.
gee Loo Hoo,
say what you REALLY mean!
LOLOL!
Sushi
you wouldn’t want your lobster to be too dry before you light it up would you?
sure, lets let bygones be bygones. lobster for EVERYONE.
Smiley face.
Never smoked it before.
Sometimes you have to pretend to be something that you’re not…And sometimes one’s true nature shines through.
;>)
Any resolution that doesn’t feature a daily twisting of Lieberman’s balls just won’t do.
Yum then.
The discussion about letting him keep the chair of the committee is nonsense. He is NOT a democrat – he gave that up when he founded and joined the CT for Lieberman party. he calls himself an independent.
The dems are the majority party and they should select one a democrat for the chair positions.
If Evan ByeBye and Dodd wants to be palsy with SloMoHoJoGoGoJo then so be it. Cuddle in the cloak room.
We need to get the D B’ser’s to get with the program. Stop sucking up to corporations and their lobbyists. Represent the people not their employers.
They keep trying to pull me back in, CT.
;>)
Somehow Arlen Specter fits into to liberman equation. His reasonable approach to the impeachment vote was a welcome contrast to the senator in question. Any moderate R could
make 60 easily reached.
Why does that make me think of Robert Mapplethorpe?
How cute the couple is /S
You know Snarlin Arlen was put on a very short leash when he was allowed to keep the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee when the Republicans were in the majority. Minimum the same should be done for Joe. Can’t vote to support a filibuster against Democrats; must hold hearings on Bush era DHS dealings; can’t harass Obama and his Administration against the wish of the committee’s Democratic members or the Democratic leadership. This last is by far the trickiest and the principal reason why Lieberman should not be allowed to keep the chairmanship. I can envision Lieberman backstabbing everyone with hearings into the Obama Administration and then whining to the press about being censored. It is just so much easier and definitive to can him.
lol!
Can we make requests? Don’t you have one with Lieberman in diapers?
arlen surprises me now and then when a legal question comes up. don’t know whether he is senile or not but he took gonzo to the mat. i loved it.
DiFink is once again lining up with the DINO faction of the GOP according to Kargo X @ Daily Kos, pasting one of her piddly ass non-statements to wait until the 111th Congress before reacting. I am so tired of this putz pretending to represent my interests and California!
Well is it really cheap this year… The lobster men were almost giving them away back in Maine!
A stitch in time saves nine.
I had a few of those…But he’s a big boy now.
;>)
i know they have trouble shipping. i prefer just straight sushi and LOTS of it.
tp!
Me too. I want Markos to take her seat.
For Deadheads only, now playing on XM:
Truckin’=>The Other One=>Big River=>The Other One=>Eyes of the World=>The Other One=>Wharf Rat from 11-14-73.
I love the GD Channel.
Gruughcht!
‘MARXIST! huhhuhhuhhuh…YEAH! YEAH!’
;>)
BawAHAHAhahaha, that’d be a riot.
Yeah! Yeah! tp for my rights hole!
so Joe: which part of ’scorned and ostracized outcast’ did you not understand?
‘Cornholijoe needs a crappuchinio’
;>)
Nope!! There is a restaurant here in Redwood city Called ”The Old Port Lobster Shack”. And my oh my it is just like walking into a lobster shack in New England, from steamed lobster to fried Ipswich clams…drool drool.
But I do share you love of sushi or better yet sashimi Drool drool again!! I just love sea food. In fact I have Chicken and sea food Gumbo on the stove…. Dam getting hungry typing all this food stuff!!
Rue the day!
Weekly roundup on the NewsHour. Brooks much as Jane pointed out earlier today was pushing the line for the automakers to declare bankruptcy, screw the unions, and move out of Detroit you know to non-union states in the South.
Shields gets off a couple of good lines where he calls present day American corporate culture noxious and narcissistic.
Brooks thinks Hillary would be a good choice for Secretary of State which should make everyone not having done so think twice about that.
Shields likes Volcker for Treasury Secretary. Volcker is in his 80s. Brooks talks up Larry Summers who really “gets it”. Summers gets it about as well as Paulson as in these are two of the guys that created the current catastrophe. Shields then says he like Geithner but makes it sound like he Volcker’s protege but he is more Summers’. Neither of these commentators understands what is going on in the financial markets and it is really scary thinking that they could even in a small way influence public opinion on how to fix things in them.
lmao, Cornholijoe
OT: Has anyone seen W Lame Ducky on the TV lately? He looks exhausted, old, tired, crazy, and like he needs a hair cut. Has he finally lost it?
Do you mean roe the day?
Doc Murphy is upstairs…
Yes! He needs a haircut. And a nap.
Actually, I meant to be silly.. but with roux.
Ah yes no roux no good Gumbo(:>))
Obama has sent the signal by refusing to take Joe’s call.
Now, if the Dems don’t remove Holy Joe from the Homeland Security committee, they’re going to get a refresher course on how “Holy Joe” got that nickname, as he investigates the Obama Administration to his wee heart’s content.
1) bush is exhausted trying to run around, duck and deflect obama’s questions so he won’t find out what they’ve really been doing.
2) someone gave obama the ‘real’ intelligence reports.
3) with only two months left, the new shredders are on back-order
We could get a new senator… how bout Elliot Spitzer hahahahaaha
Lieberman wanted us to consider “honor and integrity” when voting to confirm Mukasey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOqDtU2-BIc
Yup. And we should also consider “honor and integrity” when considering Lieberman’s claim to the chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.
What should be done is patently obvious and it’s obvious to everyone except those who live to perpetuate at all cost the club-like traditions of the U.S. Senate.
Yep, Maybe he is so exhausted he will just have to get out of town. He almost looks like an old man….all that lying took alot of effort. Plus being completely unqualified for the job.
When one reviews Joe Lieberman’s comments,statements,positions and record regarding “bipartisanship” just how “bipartisan” in spirit or conduct was what he did at GOP convention?
For all of Joe’s platitudes about/over the need for “bipartisanship” he sure seems to have sawed the plank he calls “bipartisanship” on which he was standing in half.
Being the citizens of CT seem ready to make Joe walk the plank anyway why are Senate Dems going in the other direction?
Ned Lamont did win the 2006 Democratic Primary in CT. Joe decided he was not going to let that voter outcome stop him. Joe seems to take his being the “incumbent” quite seriously. Seems the Dems in Senate are more concerned about the cozy little “club” they enjoy so much than where Joe is headed back in CT.
Shout out to U.S.Senate Dems–Take a look around–is Joe the guy you really want to go forward with?
Judas ……
Thanks for the link.
Thanks Swopa.
Seconded.