I smell fear.

Crazy stuff.

Digg please

I gave money. Saxby Chambliss is a boil on the butt of the body politic. Got..to…go.

If only

Dugg. Thanks for the link.

Thanks BT.

Has katymine checked in yet?

And this is a bad thing?

It all comes down to Georgia…

Reddit it too!

Is Obama planning to bring German laws against spreading hate on the air waves? Why wasn’t I informed? I read I look at the news?

The so-called filibuster-proof majority is a flawed premise from the outset. How many times has the party voted unanimously for a bill?

The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.
-Eric Sevareid

fear is all they have….that and lies about taxes, and marriage and medicare and social security and health care for all.

OT can we reinterpret the law to let the Vice President break a filibuster or support one if its only one vote away. The VP can break ties votes after all.

Yeah, I did a post about how my Gooper Congressman was worked up about the Fariness Doctrine just before the election:

Since the demise of the Fairness Doctrine, talk radio has emerged as a dynamic forum for public debate and an asset to the nation.

/snip/

Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine would amount to government control over political views expressed on the public airwaves. It is dangerous to suggest the government should be in the business of rationing free speech.

Yep, to them, the Fairness Doctrine would ration free speech. As if the hate they spew is the only form of free speech that matters…

FEAR ..Fear ..and more fear .. i hope they choke on it and die ..

FEAR .. ya hear me .. ??

Thanks for spotlighting this.

I’m in Atlanta and my friends and I will be phonebanking for Martin as much as possible until the runoff.

Besides the large, progressive, activist black community here, the city is also home to quite a few colleges and universities – Emory, Agnes Scott, Tech, Georgia State (urban branch of state system) and, most especially, the entire Morehouse/Spelman/Clark Atlanta University complex.

With Georgia, we can do a great deal to tone down the Obama legislation. We can filibuster budget bills and demand a repeal of the Fairness Doctrine to muzzle talk radio as the price for letting them pass.

My bold the Fairness doctrine was repealed by Reagen you Morons!

My friends: Today, we are all Georgians.

Great quote.

Hopefully Obama will make an appearance in Georgia to help GOTV. It would also be nice if they allowed early voting but I don’t suppose they will for a runoff election.

Jim – being able to spew hate talk on the public airwaves is, to them, ‘fair and balanced’ — in their eyes, the Fairness Doctrine prevented that, so it is patently ‘unfair’.

Next thing you know, those Dimmycrats will be confiscating our guns!

You should be ashamed… *G*

Germany

In Germany, Volksverhetzung (incitement of hatred against a minority under certain conditions) is a punishable offense under Section 130 of the Strafgesetzbuch (Germany’s criminal code) and can lead to up to five years imprisonment. Volksverhetzung is punishable in Germany even if committed abroad and even if committed by non-German citizens, if only the incitement of hatred takes effect within German territory, e.g. the seditious sentiment was expressed in German writ or speech and made accessible in Germany (German criminal code’s Principle of Ubiquity, Section 9 §1 Alt. 3 and 4 of the Strafgesetzbuch).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

The Right is behind the curve as usual The Fairness Doctrine only asks that both views be presented it does not censor.
Now Please look at the link on hate speech America is COMPLETELY MISSING from the list of ANY laws on this subject!

It is one of my favorites, although you can tell Eric has been gone for quite awhile since hardly any of those things are manufactured in the U.S. anymore.

Saxby is running for obstructionist in chief ? Or haven’t they gotten the message that their lies and talking points no longer work, so this campaign is trying to play that old reliable fear card one more time.

Something needs to be done to speed up the results of these re-counts in the three states. It is holding up the government. It needs to be finalized so both sides can get their act together and know what they have going forward.

In Germany Rush would be doing Time! In an extra large Orange? Jumper!

Well, they are the public airwaves. Rush Limberger can always move to cable radio ;-), or satellite. On satellite he’ll be on Channel H8.

Do those jumpsuits even come in quintuple XL?

Satellite would be best. Make his fans pay to hear him instead of polluting the public airwaves.

Why don’t we have laws against hate? Where did America go wrong? Why don’t we have National Healthcare? Why do we have the Death Penalty? Why do we put in prison more people per capita than than Commie USSR or White ruled South Africa ever did!
The battle has just begun! We have soooo much work to do!

Spraypaint the whale orange if we have to!

will we have justice? it is required for more than half of us who have lived in a country run by a mafia for 8 years.

It would also be nice if they allowed early voting but I don’t suppose they will for a runoff election.

There is early voting:

ADVANCE VOTING – No excuses needed. Will be held from Monday, November 24 through Wednesday November 26.

You know most of them can’t pay. Besides with paying customers its harder to inflate your ratings.

Yes if only by reading the financial page and watching Wallstreet fortunes collapse. The big guys are using Paulson to try and save their wealth but its not working.
It is really not working!

Yea. i was surprised to hear that today. I think it gives us a better chance but I’m still skeptical. goober power rules and fuck a bunch of leftie Nam Vets.

That was a response to the early voting in Georgia post

You smell Fear too? Then its time to Hunt!

HA!

The pain of it is that the early voting is pre-Thanksgiving but the election is the Tuesday after. Too many folks that don’t get out prior to the holiday will have post-turkey hangovers and forget about the election…

On second thought, I’m sure the Thanksgiving football game broadcasts will be saturated with political ads.

Thanks, that’s good news.

I want a return to the fairness doctrine. I’ve wanted it for years. Longed for it’s return.

Don’t care about sixty Senators. Some of the smarter Thugs will see the writing on the wall and defect Lieberman style over to the winning side. Human survival instinct.

Enjoy.

It’s a toss up. Athens is pretty organized but who know what the rest of the state will do.

“Saxby Chambliss ’ seat in Georgia is the 60th vote to stop a filibuster. It all comes down to Georgia.”

Oh, but they’ll always have slowride.

I have to agree with you. The exodus from D to R after Mondale could very well happen in reverse. Some of them are bound to want successful careers instead of whatever it is they have now (teh stoopids iz wut).

I want just one MSM talking head to do some research and when asked about the Fairness Doctrine laugh and say don’t you mean German Anti hate laws that put you in prison for spreading hate against minorities in the media.
When the GOP finishes sputtering in outrage we point out all the countries with these laws.
Then we point out the death penalty, then we point out National Healthcare.

Agreed. In the Metro, Cobb and Gwinnett will likely go Chambliss, Fulton and Dekalb will likely go Martin, Henry and Rockdale will be tossups. It would be something if Albany or Macon is the pivotal area.

The fact that Chambliss managed to get elected the first time is a little disturbing.

Only very slightly OT – with a new senate and a new president, hopefully they will bring back (was it Kennedy and ???) the Stop Government Propaganda Act and get it passed. THAT would put an end to Limbaugh and his crew – their lies are much too unhealthy for our nation. This is the time of coming together and we must do everything possible to get rid of the old Nixonian politics of divide and conquer.

you are talking to someone who lives in Paul Broun’s distict. Of course I used to live in John Hirschfelds so. . . .

And speaking of 60 votes, Leahy opens the “fuck slowride” gate a little more:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..erman-out/

I made an error, the early voting in GA begins on Monday, 17 November. The Sec. of State’s website distinguishes early voting from advance voting, even though functionally they are the same. The distinction is in how many voting sites are open. So we can start banking votes next week.

Then again we could talk about the MSM being ranked 36th in the world
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=8247

We need donate to these last few races.

sort of like how we name the same street three or for different things. . .Atlanat Highway, Broad St, Lexinton Rd . . .

As a practical matter, reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine would not accomplish the goal as long as progressive talk radio continues to produce inferior programming.

Great idea. Why do we have truth in advertising but no truth in campaigning?

Hannity and Rush and their lesser ilk have been crying about the Fairness Doctrine for months since they figured out that McCain would lose.

This is designed to put them in the Victim column and turn the conversation back to them.

One of the reasons that they are starting the discussion about something that is not a priority for the Democrats is so they can say they “won” the issue when nothing is done, but more likely they will use it to raise money and keep themselves in the “they are picking on me!” category.

The other reason that they are using this is because it is something that many people who aren’t totally clear about the difference between the difference between commercially sponsored speech on broadcast radio over the public air waves and speech that is in a public forum like a street corner in front of city hall or the Federal building.

As usual, their arguments are projections. They are the ones who limit others’ speech. (As someone who had his blog shut down by the lawyers for talk radio I think I know what I’m talking about).

They control the sound, the guests and the callers. If they really wanted to fight for “free speech” they should be fighting against the regulations they are currently under. They are fine with limits on profanity and indecency, they are already under those limits, why don’t they get into a fight with Focus on the Family who pushed for larger fines for swearing?

Maybe they should spend their time defending Morning Joe for his f-bomb.

This is all about setting the debate topics into issues that they can win.

What I would like is for the people who don’t listen to actually hear what they are paying for. Those people are the sponsors. When I and lots of other bloggers took the violent rhetoric to the sponsors and asked them if they wanted to keep supporting this lots of them choose not to. This is a Market-based solution. Of course they are only in favor of the market when they can win, when they are losing they use the courts and intimidation.

When you have a 5,000 watt public bullhorn in a limited broadcast spectrum there should be some responsibility to the public good. But they have chosen to attack one group of the public for “fun” and profit. How is that serving the public good? It would be nice if they were required to serve the public good like their license requires. If they don’t then they can either give up the license or (in a market based solution) pay a LOT more. If they complain about the high new fees say, “All you need to do to keep your license is to follow the guidelines you already agreed to. Serve the public good. And if you question what IS the public good then fine, we can have a discussion, but I’ll tell you what is NOT the public good, calling for the death of other people in the community who disagree with your viewpoints. I would also think that lying, defaming and smearing others might not be serving the public good.”

Well, not only that, but it seems to me that Rushbo and Hannity and Savage are actually hurting the GOP now by winding the cocoon more tightly. They’re a bunch of overpaid purity trolls who don’t understand why the GOP keeps losing elections.

I have a strong suspicion that the biggest proponents of a return to the “Fairness Doctrine” won’t be liberal Democrats, who sit in fairly safe districts and have halfway rational constituencies. The ones who will desire it most will be the moderate “RINO” Republicans and “Blue Dogs” who will be attacked and vilified ad nauseum any time they vote with the Democratic majority and Obama.

They will want a chance to respond and explain their votes, and an opportunity to counter the worst attacks of folks like Hannity and Limbaugh. As disgusting as their attacks on folks like Barney Frank are, their real hate is directed at those that “associate” with him. It’s just like the Ayers thing…create an inflated “monster” and then tag others with “associating” with that monster.

So Snowe, Collins, Lugar, Hagel, Voinovich, and even folks like McCain (who is already being blamed for not being a true “Palin” conservative and “using” her) are the ones that will be the principle targets.

They should be the ones with the most to gain from a revived Fairness Doctrine. After all, when was the last time that moderate Republicans were able to express those perspectives in a nationwide forum? The 1970’s?

Oh come on.

We know that there’s going to be no fairness doctrine.

Instead President Obama will just declare Limbaugh and Hannity enemey combatants and [Mod: no] until they confess to being agents of Iran.

That’s the ticket.

what a bunch of nimrods they are.

Personally once the commie-left slips down the slope, lets do it right. Swap Gitmo for some nice Cuban cane fields and re-educate the pink,fat, wingnuts. Venceremos, Reagan style. Lets educate the nitwits on how it really works…

I think that would be fantastic…..I am so sick of the entire FOX news organization….I even heard that Murdock is ashamed of the ppl on FOX…..and I truly hope Chamblis loses so, ALL OF YOU DEMS OUT THERE GET UP OFF YOUR A$$ AND VOTE……..DON’T ALLOW THE REPUBS TO TAKE THIS….KNOCK ON DOORS, DO WHAT YOU DO…….AND THEN FINALLY FOX WILL HAVE TO COME UP TO STANDARDS SUCH AS CNN, MSNBC,HELL EVEN BLOOMBERG IS BETTER THAN FOX…….

You right wing nut jobs get off the bus….ya’ll have had your 8 years…..ITS OUR TURN NOW!!

BUZZARDS KORNER!!

Misdirection, projection or laying the groundwork?

It is indeed a bit difficult to see any obvious reason for all the attention devoted to this fairness doctrine straw man. But I think we have to assume that no item gets on the other side’s talking points unless there is some underhanded reason to tout it, and this fairness doctrine thing is being so widely talked about that it’s got to have originated in their faxed talking points. So what’s the devious reason behind the coordinated campaign to puff up this straw man?

One possiblility is that they expect a real, valid legal attack against their media outlets under the next administration, so they raise an invalid straw man now in the hopes that the discrediting of the invalid attack will discredit the valid attack later on. The valid attack would presumably be based on the program, revealed several years ago, whereby the Bush administration used govt funds illegally to support propaganda efforts in US media outlets. Only a few columnists were implicated in what was revealed at that time, but since BushCo investigated itself, there’s no reason to think that this was the full extent of the program. For all we know, Limbaugh and others may have taken all sorts of illegal govt money. So they gin up a phony controversy over the Obama administration’s supposed attempt to supress Rush et al over the fairness doctrine, noisily “defeat” this non-threat, and are then in a position later to claim that the actual investigation of Rush for taking illegal govt money, when it comes down the pike, is somehow the same, discredited, non-investigation that now “threatens” Rush.

It is also possible that this is just projection, with a touch of “The guilty flee where none pursueth.” psychology, as we learn in Proverbs. If they had just won, and they were faced with such a noisome thorn in their side as they imagine Rush to be in ours, they would be seeking out every rationale imaginable to silence the threat. They can’t imagine that we aren’t as thuggish as they are, therefore we simply must be planning to silence Rush by hook or by crook, all (total lack of) evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

The last possible motive I would like to suggest comes from a consideration of just how wrong-headed they would be if they imagine we would want to silence Rush and like loonies even if there were some legitimate means to do so. Maybe at some point he and his imitators actually did us some damage. But they have pretty clearly jumped their shark, and I think it now reasonable to conclude that Olberman and Maddow perform a similar function (with this difference, they don’t lie their asses off) for our side, but lately to better effect. At this point, Rush probably is doing us a favor every time he opens his over-sized mouth and lets out some fresh outrageous lie that most people no longer fall for, and which therefore serves to discredit their side more than ours. Perhaps the other side has enough self-awareness, at least when such is necessary for them to be able to compete, to admit this reality. They might be looking forward to the day when they will want to impose a fairness doctrine so as to shut down mass media political discourse in this new era in which such discourse now works for us and against them. They want to be able, at that time, to blame us retroactively for striking first, thus their invention of an attempt by our side to impose the fairness doctrine. It’s devious, but it fits their pattern of faking prior persecution in order to justify their own later attacks.