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	<title>Comments on: Bernie Sanders on Lieberman:  &#8220;Not Change We Can Believe In&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: momaloney39</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/14/bernie-sanders-on-lieberman-not-change-we-can-believe-in/#comment-1725942</link>
		<dc:creator>momaloney39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is great news Jane….Ned to the rescue!  Was talking to&lt;br /&gt;
Ct. Bob the other day about the election and he is thrilled and&lt;br /&gt;
very mad at JoeLiar!  Who isn’t!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the update!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maureen&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great news Jane….Ned to the rescue!  Was talking to<br />
Ct. Bob the other day about the election and he is thrilled and<br />
very mad at JoeLiar!  Who isn’t!</p>
<p>Thanks for the update!</p>
<p>Maureen</p>
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		<title>By: CarolynU</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarolynU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Say what?  Bernie caucus with the rethugs?  Not likely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what?  Bernie caucus with the rethugs?  Not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/14/bernie-sanders-on-lieberman-not-change-we-can-believe-in/#comment-1725676</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/14/bernie-sanders-on-lieberman-not-change-we-can-believe-in/#comment-1725675</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You Georgians deserve a better Senator than Odious Saxby.  But I’m not sure Senate Democrats deserve another vote.  In any case, let them work to get it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Georgians deserve a better Senator than Odious Saxby.  But I’m not sure Senate Democrats deserve another vote.  In any case, let them work to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: MayDaze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/14/bernie-sanders-on-lieberman-not-change-we-can-believe-in/#comment-1725674</link>
		<dc:creator>MayDaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane got a nice mention on &lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/bernie_sanders_joins_leahy_in.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TPM Election Central&lt;/a&gt; for this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Late Update: A good point from Jane Hamsher: These calls from Lieberman supporters like Evan Bayh for him to “apologize” in exchange for keeping his post — would the “apology” happen in the closed-door Dem caucus, and what good would that be?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane got a nice mention on <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/bernie_sanders_joins_leahy_in.php" rel="nofollow">TPM Election Central</a> for this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Late Update: A good point from Jane Hamsher: These calls from Lieberman supporters like Evan Bayh for him to “apologize” in exchange for keeping his post — would the “apology” happen in the closed-door Dem caucus, and what good would that be?</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tuesday&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuesday</p>
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		<title>By: RichardKanePA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/14/bernie-sanders-on-lieberman-not-change-we-can-believe-in/#comment-1725671</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardKanePA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The secret Democratic vote over Leiberman keeping his chair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When is it going to be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RichardKanePA&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secret Democratic vote over Leiberman keeping his chair.</p>
<p>When is it going to be?</p>
<p>RichardKanePA</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well he did make some big contributions but&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he did make some big contributions but<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Teddy, have you read howie?  like minds…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/11/do-democrats-even-deserve-filibuster_14.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://downwithtyranny.blogspo.....er_14.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posted a comment- I’d be a skunk at the party if I posted it here ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, have you read howie?  like minds…</p>
<p><a href="http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/11/do-democrats-even-deserve-filibuster_14.html" rel="nofollow">http://downwithtyranny.blogspo&#8230;..er_14.html</a></p>
<p>I posted a comment- I’d be a skunk at the party if I posted it here ;)</p>
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		<title>By: treadlightly</title>
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		<dc:creator>treadlightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the anti-Lieberman forces can get enough other senators to join with them, they could threaten to leave the Democratic caucus if it votes to allow Joe to keep his chairmanship. That should doom Joe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It shouldn’t make any difference who Joe caucuses with (as long as he’s not the 51st vote). Since he’s a man of unrivaled integrity*, he will vote the same way no matter which party he caucuses with. Joe is of no use as the filibuster-busting 60th vote. He would be totally unreliable and there are enough other suspect Democratic votes to effectively keep the Democrats from ever reaching 60.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First Joe. Then (surprise) Harry. It is time to strengthen the Democratic Party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*According to Joe Lieberman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the anti-Lieberman forces can get enough other senators to join with them, they could threaten to leave the Democratic caucus if it votes to allow Joe to keep his chairmanship. That should doom Joe.</p>
<p>It shouldn’t make any difference who Joe caucuses with (as long as he’s not the 51st vote). Since he’s a man of unrivaled integrity*, he will vote the same way no matter which party he caucuses with. Joe is of no use as the filibuster-busting 60th vote. He would be totally unreliable and there are enough other suspect Democratic votes to effectively keep the Democrats from ever reaching 60.</p>
<p>First Joe. Then (surprise) Harry. It is time to strengthen the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>*According to Joe Lieberman.</p>
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