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	<title>Comments on: Veterans Deserve Better:  Breaking Faith With Those Who Serve</title>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You got that right. I had a very bad infection about 2 weeks ago, tried to get an appointment at my local VA hospital-very very underfunded, I damn near died after surgery in April of 08, spent 14 days in a catholic hospital recovering(tho the VA and I are fighting about paying me back for the hospital bills incurred)-to my point. Called for urgent apt-they had already done the surgery a couple of months earlier and declared that the entire infection was gone(it wasn’t)-in late Oct, the earliest apt that I could get was for the 28th of Nov. Once more I wound up spending my dime and went to a civilian clinic where they operated within the hour of my arriving and in fact dug out the cause of the infection-which the VA Dr(an intern) had missed. The VA is massivly underfunded. While I have been using the VA medical service since 1980,(in the USArmy 1968-1980) it was actually worse under RR, became somewhat better under GHWB got better under WJC and then took a big nosedive under GWB. Let us hope that we actually take the VA off budget and finally get a stable budget that we can count on. On the other hand, because I am rated 100% disabled, my wife can also use the VA for medical treatment, besides which she is also enrolled in CHAMPUS(VA) so she can use outside specialists and get meds that are not in the VA formulary. It is not only the current war patients that the VA needs to help, there are plenty of Vietnam PTSD vets along with Korean and WWII vets. The WWII and Korean War vets are starting to die or get alzheimers and I will say that the VA is working on this, they changed a VA hospital that is about 60 miles from where I live into pretty much-except for outpatient services-a nursing home for vets, even tho they have to send them to our hosp for surgery. The current situation is better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick, but not by much&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got that right. I had a very bad infection about 2 weeks ago, tried to get an appointment at my local VA hospital-very very underfunded, I damn near died after surgery in April of 08, spent 14 days in a catholic hospital recovering(tho the VA and I are fighting about paying me back for the hospital bills incurred)-to my point. Called for urgent apt-they had already done the surgery a couple of months earlier and declared that the entire infection was gone(it wasn’t)-in late Oct, the earliest apt that I could get was for the 28th of Nov. Once more I wound up spending my dime and went to a civilian clinic where they operated within the hour of my arriving and in fact dug out the cause of the infection-which the VA Dr(an intern) had missed. The VA is massivly underfunded. While I have been using the VA medical service since 1980,(in the USArmy 1968-1980) it was actually worse under RR, became somewhat better under GHWB got better under WJC and then took a big nosedive under GWB. Let us hope that we actually take the VA off budget and finally get a stable budget that we can count on. On the other hand, because I am rated 100% disabled, my wife can also use the VA for medical treatment, besides which she is also enrolled in CHAMPUS(VA) so she can use outside specialists and get meds that are not in the VA formulary. It is not only the current war patients that the VA needs to help, there are plenty of Vietnam PTSD vets along with Korean and WWII vets. The WWII and Korean War vets are starting to die or get alzheimers and I will say that the VA is working on this, they changed a VA hospital that is about 60 miles from where I live into pretty much-except for outpatient services-a nursing home for vets, even tho they have to send them to our hosp for surgery. The current situation is better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick, but not by much</p>
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		<title>By: wagonjak</title>
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		<dc:creator>wagonjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think I’ve ever been angrier and more outraged then watching the sad show this morning of Cheney laying the wreath at Arlington Cemetery and then piously spouting bullshit about the brave and patriotic soldiers who are fighting in Iraq and elswhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CHENEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS IN IRAQ…and all the death, dishonor and dismemberment of our soldiers and the people of Iraq!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This evil son of a bitch should be hiding his face in shame, and instead we have his presence at this event shoved in the faces of all Americans!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think I’ve ever been angrier and more outraged then watching the sad show this morning of Cheney laying the wreath at Arlington Cemetery and then piously spouting bullshit about the brave and patriotic soldiers who are fighting in Iraq and elswhere.</p>
<p>CHENEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS IN IRAQ…and all the death, dishonor and dismemberment of our soldiers and the people of Iraq!</p>
<p>This evil son of a bitch should be hiding his face in shame, and instead we have his presence at this event shoved in the faces of all Americans!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spokane61/Adie, not that what you wrote even applies to this article Christy wrote, but you seem to hate Lieberman because he stood for a single issue that he truly believed in. He didn’t back down even when he was being attacked ruthlessly from those within his own party. He still votes with Democrats, dare I say 90% of the time (bet McCain is sorry he said that now), but you are still willing to burn him at the stake for a single issue. You are obviously one of the ‘open-minded’ liberals I hear so much about, why don’t you practice that by 1) forgiving a guy that has been incredibly faithful to the democrats, and 2) respect the content of this article/blog for what it is and don’t post this negative trash. Grow up!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spokane61/Adie, not that what you wrote even applies to this article Christy wrote, but you seem to hate Lieberman because he stood for a single issue that he truly believed in. He didn’t back down even when he was being attacked ruthlessly from those within his own party. He still votes with Democrats, dare I say 90% of the time (bet McCain is sorry he said that now), but you are still willing to burn him at the stake for a single issue. You are obviously one of the ‘open-minded’ liberals I hear so much about, why don’t you practice that by 1) forgiving a guy that has been incredibly faithful to the democrats, and 2) respect the content of this article/blog for what it is and don’t post this negative trash. Grow up!</p>
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		<title>By: Spokane61</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokane61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice immage and real folksy. Lieberman is worse than a Republican he is a lieing sack of S**t. Never investigated anything, lied about his election, lied to Obama about not attacking him, why would anyone with half a brain want him within ‘hollering distance’ of the Democrats?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice immage and real folksy. Lieberman is worse than a Republican he is a lieing sack of S**t. Never investigated anything, lied about his election, lied to Obama about not attacking him, why would anyone with half a brain want him within ‘hollering distance’ of the Democrats?</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning Christy and Dawgs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mixed messages all over.  This waiting for the 20’s of January ‘09 is a bear, huh?!&lt;br /&gt;
If memory serves, I was thoroughly blasted from left field when I dared, yes DARED, to express some faith in the Obama team’s means and motivations before the election.  Oh the abject &lt;em&gt;horror&lt;/em&gt; that struck in some faint-hearted concern trolls!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The shock of those encounters drove me to do something outright silly.  I went out on Nov. 5 and bought meself a fresh copy of the WSJ and took it home proudly, with plans to gloat over their shock and awed miseries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But then, Dang.  T’aint funny when the moneyed few take their solace in bumping up their skim-scam bailout allowances by billions and bbbillions. How’d they do dat?!  Where are cheener’s hands?  If not behind his’n back &amp; in cuffs, why not?!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I digress.  Even smart-a$”es can be dump-belles.  I mean, look at the gawdlees-smearin’ grifter ticket.  I thot such like were usually smart enuf to duck outta the spotlight in a jiffy after looting the booty.  Poor saurah keeps runnin’ in circles muttering somethin’ about “come ‘n git it, suckers… whut unnerwear? - lost it…  so’s yer old man… did NAUGHT!… 2012pffftghbbblblarggggh…”  I fergit.  Did the tigers in that old kiddy book lose their stripes first? or did they just turn into lard straight-away?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While we’re waitin’ for some sense to kick in, someone before the election had an idee here ’bouts and it was a goodun’.  I’d feel safer if they’d go poke that road-kill shill on her head with a stick.  I think it’s still movin’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the time being, I am sustained by guarded optimism.  Why?  I haven’t a clue, except it has something to do with real honest-to-goodness smart, dedicated, caring people taking over in January.  If they want to keep liarman around to perform as a decent senator, alternatively as a pinata, that’s o.k. with me. I’ve even got a good stout stick over in the corner there, if they need to borrow it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning Christy and Dawgs.</p>
<p>Mixed messages all over.  This waiting for the 20’s of January ‘09 is a bear, huh?!<br />
If memory serves, I was thoroughly blasted from left field when I dared, yes DARED, to express some faith in the Obama team’s means and motivations before the election.  Oh the abject <em>horror</em> that struck in some faint-hearted concern trolls!</p>
<p>The shock of those encounters drove me to do something outright silly.  I went out on Nov. 5 and bought meself a fresh copy of the WSJ and took it home proudly, with plans to gloat over their shock and awed miseries.</p>
<p>But then, Dang.  T’aint funny when the moneyed few take their solace in bumping up their skim-scam bailout allowances by billions and bbbillions. How’d they do dat?!  Where are cheener’s hands?  If not behind his’n back &amp; in cuffs, why not?!</p>
<p>But I digress.  Even smart-a$”es can be dump-belles.  I mean, look at the gawdlees-smearin’ grifter ticket.  I thot such like were usually smart enuf to duck outta the spotlight in a jiffy after looting the booty.  Poor saurah keeps runnin’ in circles muttering somethin’ about “come ‘n git it, suckers… whut unnerwear? &#8211; lost it…  so’s yer old man… did NAUGHT!… 2012pffftghbbblblarggggh…”  I fergit.  Did the tigers in that old kiddy book lose their stripes first? or did they just turn into lard straight-away?</p>
<p>While we’re waitin’ for some sense to kick in, someone before the election had an idee here ’bouts and it was a goodun’.  I’d feel safer if they’d go poke that road-kill shill on her head with a stick.  I think it’s still movin’.</p>
<p>For the time being, I am sustained by guarded optimism.  Why?  I haven’t a clue, except it has something to do with real honest-to-goodness smart, dedicated, caring people taking over in January.  If they want to keep liarman around to perform as a decent senator, alternatively as a pinata, that’s o.k. with me. I’ve even got a good stout stick over in the corner there, if they need to borrow it.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;forgot to say, watch the streaming video for this if you are able, his voice said it all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forgot to say, watch the streaming video for this if you are able, his voice said it all.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like you could be right. I can imagine a lot of men and women not treating it seriously. It could be like the illness that hits a person, like diabetes that hits a person before they even realize it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you could be right. I can imagine a lot of men and women not treating it seriously. It could be like the illness that hits a person, like diabetes that hits a person before they even realize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will remember him in my prayers tonight, thanks for sharing. He is definitely the definition of a true American hero!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will remember him in my prayers tonight, thanks for sharing. He is definitely the definition of a true American hero!!</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Treatment for PTSD needs to start before anyone is deployed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treatment for PTSD needs to start before anyone is deployed.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks christy–i saw it, worth a look.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;reminded me of a segment that moved me beyond belief.from march, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
a vietnam vet wrote a poem about the ‘honor roll’ at the end of the lehrer newshour. the link has his short background statement and the poem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/entertainment/jan-june06/honor_roll_poem.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb....._poem.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Returning Dead&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Each night I make a drink and wait for them&lt;br /&gt;
They have become the day’s concluding news,&lt;br /&gt;
Installments from a world without anthems&lt;br /&gt;
Or children, unfocusing eyes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A question that repeatedly rejects&lt;br /&gt;
My easy terms. They are ones who believed&lt;br /&gt;
And acted in the narrow and select&lt;br /&gt;
Ways handed them, while ordinary lives&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ran on without interruption&lt;br /&gt;
Or bad pictures, as though nothing had changed&lt;br /&gt;
Change is the one unanswerable question&lt;br /&gt;
Of these faces. The world can rearrange&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Itself repeatedly, but these remain&lt;br /&gt;
The same, silent in everything they lack;&lt;br /&gt;
That’s what they’ve come to, in places with names&lt;br /&gt;
Like Afghanistan, Iraq,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And this is the way it happens: the words&lt;br /&gt;
Are old - mother, father, home - and will catch&lt;br /&gt;
Surrounding currents in the slow absurd&lt;br /&gt;
Descending will of any river etched&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Out of a landscape history refines&lt;br /&gt;
To myth. The TV blanks between&lt;br /&gt;
Segments, but every static face defines&lt;br /&gt;
Itself, holds stubbornly its private scene…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fixed, publicly, as we are led&lt;br /&gt;
Back to that little negative whose lack&lt;br /&gt;
Is each of us, staring the staring dead,&lt;br /&gt;
Leaning, sometimes like grief itself; then straightening back.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks christy–i saw it, worth a look.</p>
<p>reminded me of a segment that moved me beyond belief.from march, 2006<br />
a vietnam vet wrote a poem about the ‘honor roll’ at the end of the lehrer newshour. the link has his short background statement and the poem.<br /><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/entertainment/jan-june06/honor_roll_poem.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb&#8230;.._poem.html</a></p>
<p>The Returning Dead</p>
<p>Each night I make a drink and wait for them<br />
They have become the day’s concluding news,<br />
Installments from a world without anthems<br />
Or children, unfocusing eyes</p>
<p>A question that repeatedly rejects<br />
My easy terms. They are ones who believed<br />
And acted in the narrow and select<br />
Ways handed them, while ordinary lives</p>
<p>Ran on without interruption<br />
Or bad pictures, as though nothing had changed<br />
Change is the one unanswerable question<br />
Of these faces. The world can rearrange</p>
<p>Itself repeatedly, but these remain<br />
The same, silent in everything they lack;<br />
That’s what they’ve come to, in places with names<br />
Like Afghanistan, Iraq,</p>
<p>And this is the way it happens: the words<br />
Are old &#8211; mother, father, home &#8211; and will catch<br />
Surrounding currents in the slow absurd<br />
Descending will of any river etched</p>
<p>Out of a landscape history refines<br />
To myth. The TV blanks between<br />
Segments, but every static face defines<br />
Itself, holds stubbornly its private scene…</p>
<p>Fixed, publicly, as we are led<br />
Back to that little negative whose lack<br />
Is each of us, staring the staring dead,<br />
Leaning, sometimes like grief itself; then straightening back.</p>
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