Imagine for a moment that you are a career employee of the federal government in a law enforcement or intelligence gathering agency. You embarked upon this career because you wanted to do something for your country, your fellow Americans. You and your family have gone through intrusive background checks, your friends and neighbors and past employers and teachers all got interviewed, there are limits on the kinds of activities, including business activities your spouse and children can engage in. Every year you must do a time consuming accounting exercise to do your financial disclosure forms.
You, and those who love you enough to support your decision to do this work — and you cannot do it if your spouse and grown children refuse to cooperate in the background checks and financial disclosures — have sacrificed a great deal of privacy and autonomy all so you can serve your country on a civil service salary. In short, you are a patriot.
Imagine now, that after decades of serving the country you believed to be basically decent and honorable, you have spent the last 7+ years watching the administration violate the Constitution in many ways. You may not know all the details of every violation, but you have some concrete knowledge of bits and pieces — maybe big chunks – of what is bound to be a bigger picture.
You know that colleagues like Sibel Edmonds have been subject to all manner of gag orders to stop her from revealing what she knows. You know that if you just got on a soapbox and shouted the truth in the street, you would be discredited and then prosecuted and the story would die. You have seen the object lesson of what happened to Joe Wilson’s wife when Wilson tried to call bulls**t on a White House lie.
[O]ne Justice Department attorney had his house raided and his children’s computers seized as part of the FBI’s probe into who leaked the warrantless spying to the New York Times. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales even suggested the reporters could be prosecuted under antiquated treason statutes.
You are living that sort of "invasion of the body snatchers" nightmare. You know an awful truth, but without a sample "pod" you can’t prove it and no one has been inclined to believe you.
And now, it’s almost over.
Wired is reporting that a potential army of whistleblowers-in-waiting have been talking to reporters and media outlets saying "call me on January 20th", the day the White House changes hands.
"I’d bet there are a lot of career employees in the intelligence agencies who’ll be glad to see Obama take the oath so they can finally speak out against all this illegal spying and get back to their real mission," says Caroline Fredrickson, the ACLU’s Washington D.C. legislative director.
New Yorker investigative reporter Seymour Hersh already has a slew of sources waiting to spill the Bush administration’s darkest secrets, he said in an interview last month. "You cannot believe how many people have told me to call them on January 20. [They say,] ‘You wanna know about abuses and violations? Call me then.’"
Is there an army of people chomping at the bit to spill the beans? I sure hope so. But it is up to both the new administration AND Congress to create a hospitable environment for that. I know Obama said no witch hunts, I’m not suggesting that, but we cannot sweep the depredations of the last two terms under the rug in that name of "moving on."
If new whistle-blowers do emerge, Fredrickson hopes the additional information will spur Congress to form a new Church Committee — the 1970s bipartisan committee that investigated and condemned the government’s secret spying on peace activists, Martin Luther King, Jr., and other political figures.
A latter day Church Commission sounds just about right to me.
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if true this is great frigging news lhp, I only wish the story did not break till the president was out of office
I believe this story might put a few people in harms way and I am not happy
I would also like a differant word then “whistleblower”
I am from new york and I know how the mass mentality reacts to this word, for some of us it is a perjurative
I would much rather a term such as;
“watchdog” and “watchdog protection laws”
how about;
“guardian”…something other then “whistleblower” which to some of us is congruous to “rat fink”
I’m not asking for a witch hunt, I am opposed to witch hunts.
But I for-sure for-sure want a National Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Especially once the Dim Son starts writing Pardon Pen letters.
There does need to be an accounting of the Bushco years.
Great post, LHP. I hope the sound of all those whistles blowing is deafening. Wouldn’t it be great if people were blowing whistles all along the parade route for the inauguration?
Digg this important post, pups.
Oh, how wonderful it would be. Jan 20 is too late though. Well, I am pushing for the World Court now. Got to be some “crimes against humanity”. (sarcasm on)If only those ignorant r** ***** knew there was a legal way. (sarcasm off):)
~~~[Mod Note: Please do not use that language even as a joke. Thank You]~~~
The Republican artificial reality is about to come crashing down. How could they have ever thought they could keep it up forever?
Maybe you can make your own reality, but only while you have your hands on the levers.
Are the whistleblower protection statutes in pn place adequate to protect these people?
we should be so lucky.
bureaucrats were always chicken. will they change?
I aint holding my breath.
With Mullen staying at the FBI and
Just found this on Obama protecting whistleblowers.
Now I’ll go read it…[g]
Well, you would have to admit they my a pretty good run at it. They told everyone 40 years ago what they were going to do. No secret. Dems just said okay, whatever. The moral is never to underestimate the rabid dog.
Here’s Obama’s survey on whislteblowers
an “Army” ???
be still my dfh heart !!!
great idea Jim White !
I guess they really believed Rove when he promised a Republican majority for a million years….the dopes.
That is the beauty of a simple mind. Yes. That is how they did it.
btw – groceries and bills be damned – I am sooo taking the week of January 20th off !
we’re going to have to have some form of “truth commission” .. all this lawlessness by the gov’t for the past eight years has got to be dealth with .. if we don’t deal with it ..and if we let it slide .. it sets a terrible standard going forward ..
For those of you who know my list, I have always thought that Bush and Cheney benefited from having so many scandals and disasters because they all blurred together. I wonder if the sheer mass of wrongdoing will continue to insulate them. Obama is going to have his hands full dealing with the economy and the withdrawal from Iraq. I hope it doesn’t happen but I can see the Congress saying that gosh, we have so much to do that we don’t have time to investigate all that old stuff and that we need to look to the future, etc.
If it fits. Then get right back in harness. The thugs won’t die without a stake through the heart. Do it with a smile.
I’ve got a feeling Obama is going to go all Ford on us, just keep the past in the past & hold no one accountable.
That is absolutely what all thugs will say and most dems. Let’s move on. Remember that? Don’t know what can practically be done in that regard.
We’ve had Watergate, Iran-Contra, and now BushCo in the last 40 yrs. After the last two only half-hearted efforts at cleaning up the mess and punishing the malefactors were made, with the result that a more virulent strain of Rethug bacteria emerghed after each successive scandal. If strong “anti-biotics” are not used on BushCo this time, I shudder to thing about what the next and even more virulent starin of Rethug “superbugs” will be like.
Don’t go public with Congressional show off hearings where the GOP southern good ol’ boys (the only GOP left) can spout off and whine.
Just do solid work ups by staff, private interviews ahead of the public hearings, use the pardon list as the “to do” list for crimes to look for, and then have the public phase consist of Hans Spakovsky denying a phone book record of voter suppression evidence; Rove denying a library of information demonstrating his role in Plame, USA firings, etc.; former oil execs testifying about what they did and did not say in Cheney’s secret oil summit.
that “no witch hunts” thing -
my inner pollyanna thinks he meant no pursuing someone simply because they were in the prev administration
he has already demonstrated his intent to undo so much of what we want undone
by no means do I expect him to go after everything we want, but the signs are already out there that some of the naysayers are gonna be surprised.
His choice of AG will tell us plenty (James Comey . . .Come On Down !!!)
Obama is looking at a whole boatload of problems and as much as I would like to see many people pay for what they have done, my desire for justice will not get one person a job, help pay anyone’s mortgage, get healthcare for a sick child etc. I certainly want everything to come out in the open so that Americans can see what was done to us. Perhaps they will learn that the Bush name is ruined along with many other Rs in office. We may have to be content with that.
aaaah Hugh, that wasn’t meant for you – just a general comment. but you’re probably busy with your semiotics treatise anyway /s
Yes, so I suggest we take them at their word. Education is the answer, imo. I know it’s a slow process.
Yet we have just lived through eight years of abject, venal, incompetent and over-reaching rule. The country lies in tatters. There must be accounting for it, so that future generations have a historical record to support “never forget”.
Hersh will keep the pot boiling.
Scott Horton was interviewed by Scott Horton about the matter of war crimes prosecutions here.
http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/…..horton-15/
Three of the many interesting points he makes:
1. Blanket pardons by W will be met with the public (well some outspoken members of it) wanting to know the specifics, what the departees actually did that was wrong. So blanket pardons raise a can of worms for W.
2. Any violation of the Geneva Conventions is subject to prosecution by any signatore. He thinks Spain & Italy will be quick off the block.
3. In many cases, it has taken a very long time, i.e., Pinochet, but is not forgotten. In that sense, Cheney’s bad ticker may be good for him, and the reverse for W.
Okay, say someone working for the NSA would have passed it on to his superiors that he thought the agency was performing illegal monitoring. Ultimately it would have been passed on the the heads of the agency for a decision. They would have decided that they are guilty, resigned, and charged themselves with crimes?
That method of whistleblowing not too effective. So, the employee reports what he thinks he knows to his Congressman. Normally, they send a letter to the agency saying this has been reported. Agency answers saying it’s not so. THe congressman sends a copy back to the person who reported it.
Finally, the person reports to the press. They make a major to do over it. Congress holds hearings. Congress then passes a bill authorizing the previosly illegal activities. If the whistleblower wasn’t fired, he or she is dead meat as far as the remainder of their career. The kids didn’t need college anyway.
Most civil servants never see anything to blow whistles about. If they do, most would decide whether it’s “a hill to die on.” Most would reflect just about the same amount of courage that the general public would. That is, some would make the sacrifice and some wouldn’t. But your statement about all beaurocrats being chicken is simply wrong.
When the army of whistleblowers start blowing, imagine how tragic it will be that Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table. A little investigation could have prevented a lot of graft. *sigh*
I hope for accountability but I know DC. They won’t do it unless there is no other option.
Why wait until January? Impeach Little Georgie and The Big Dick NOW.
Torture is torture and constitutes High Crimes & Misdemeanors.
ITMFA
Great description. You should copywrite it.
Cross you know DC.
Look for whistle-blowers to emerge from other Federal agencies as well.
I worked in DoD consulting firms through most of the 80s and early 90s. I lost my clearances when I was honest in an interview that if I became aware of an illegal classified operation that it was my duty to blow the whistle. My employer was not forced to fire me but the clearances were gone for good as I had “equivocated in my desire to protect classified information.”
Whistleblowers may be waiting in the wings but they will not be called out on stage. In the spirit of bipartisanship all will be forgiven. With very, very few exceptions there is no backbone in the Democratic Congress and Obama will likely tread lightly for fear of ramping up the right wing wurlitzer. IMHO Obama could very well be the United States version of the Roman emperor Claudius who succeeded Caligula. Claudius first instinct was to restore the Republic but Rome had become so ossifed and the intrigues so toxic all he could do was hold the line, initiate modest reform and keep the price of food low. Depsipte his intentions and best efforts the dye had been cast and Rome was doomed. I hope this is not the case for Obama and the American people.
Exactly, you have to burn your bridges. Most people can’t or feel they can’t. I’ve been there many times.
If the House were to initiate impeachment proceedings it would prevent Bush from giving blanket pardons to everyone in his administration. The Democrats are far too timid to take such a bold move and they will get no direction from Obama. The crimes will go unpunished and the perpetrators will regroup waiting for the moment when they can wrest power from the people to give the final coup de grace to the United States.
They thought they had the whole voting system in their hands. They didn’t count on the electorate choosing honest Secretaries of State.
Alaska, by the way, has no secretary of state.
How would proceeding preclude him from carrying out the full duties of the office? I don’t know the law on this subject, I will admit.
It’s my understanding that if the House intiates impeachment it automatically prevents Bush from giving pardons.
Exactly why I wrote Boxer asking her to do what she can to block Lieberman from Homeland Security.
Can you give me a reference? I have not heard of that. Makes sense.
Yeah, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs is the platform from which Lieberman will stab Obama in the back yet again. Hearings, subpeona’s and grandstanding to provide cover for his Republicon friends and embarass and derail Obama.
Maybe there’s something they still have up their sleeves. (I can’t quite get the tinfoil hat unglued from my head.)
I worry that they will be able to stage some kind of coup.
I’d look it up but have to run at the moment. Good Luck!
What???!! That’s not what mentors are supposed to do to their mentees? /s
W is so clearly tired of being prez.
Actually my understanding has always been that a pardon cannot stop an impeachment proceeding but other than that, the President’s pardon power is pretty much absolute as long as he is in office.
IANAL however.
Nah. If whistleblowers are going to reporters like Hersh, they cannot be ignored. Hersh meticulously checks his facts.
People will pay.
I’m expecting more an army of cya-ers, in the nature of Goldsmith, than of whistleblowers. And that is partly due to Congress and more specifically to the Democrats in Congress who just haven’t had in any interest is standing tall or doing the right thing.
OTOH, the British Court is making noises as if it is open to blowing the whistle on some of the Binyam Mohammed torture and has asked the British press to stake out their claim:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..dence.html
That is my understanding as well.
All of the above. Both whistleblowers & CYAers. I love binaries, so look forward to pinning one of those labels on individuals.
Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states it unambiguously — the President
“…shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
think what it means here is you can’t pardon impeachment – IOW, mid october looked like Gonzales is to be impeached and a pardon can’t save him from same
Recycle your hat Alison. Even if they did try something funny I’m confident Obama has already covered it somehow.
I like hanging out here cuz there’s lots of smart people but I have to question those who keep trying to apply paradigms of the past to Obama. He certainly didn’t get elected using past practices. There’s something about the calmness in him that tells me he’s always a couple moves ahead. It’s obvious he keeps the big stuff close to the vest until it’s time to use.
We’re just not used to having a President who plans and preps imho.
The people here are not statesmen. It IS a corrupt system. Going to take a LONG time.
Ian upstairs on Remembrance Day
Whistler’s, MoFo!
Right so he can’t pardon himself. That makes sense.
37 – and wouldn’t you think that the only correct and acceptable answer should have been the one you gave?
38 – that’s a pretty interesting analogy and I think you have something there.
Art.II, Sec. 2
Beat me to it. *g*
Sure, he can pardon himself. But the pardon has to be fairly clear about the crime(s) being pardoned.
For example, Nixon’s pardon was a blanket pardon for crimes against the United State during his term in office. It wasn’t good for crimes committed before his inauguration nor those committed after his resignation.
I suppose the Dim Son could issue himself a blanket pardon covering January 20, 2001 to January 19, 2009. But I don’t really believe that even he’s that stupid. He IS worried about his ‘legacy,’ as if a fiscally bankrupt government and morally bankrupt executive aren’t legacy enough. Pardoning himself would simply confirm in the minds of more than half of the country that he was criminally negligent in the performance of his office.
Is Fitzy part of the whistle-gang?
To Whatever Higher Power There Is:
Dear He or She:
I am getting older and may not be around to see all the wrongs of the past 8 years undone. I ask only that you let me live long enought to see Alberto Gonzales indicted for all the wrongs he did while AG. Oh, and George Bush…and, of course, Dick Cheney…..then there’s Karl Rove.
Did God: I want to live forever…
Well here is something interesting, if true. Conyers to have impeachment hearings post election. Now could that help prevent a Bush pardoning frenzy?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..630/659405
…live long enought to see Alberto Gonzales indicted for all the wrongs he did while AG. Oh, and George Bush…and, of course, Dick Cheney…..then there’s Karl Rove.
and David Addington. Gonzo isn’t responsible, except by his silence and lying, for the biggest percentage of the truly reprehensible stuff that this admin concocted.
Addington was in on *all* of it.
9/11 was a false flag operation used as a pretext for geo-political-resource hegemony, for curtailing our precious civil liberties, and for muzzling democracy as a whole.
after seven years of yellow-orange-red coded fear mongering, please let us have our day of truth and reconciliation. we cannot heal as a nation without truth. we cannot salvage our role as a world leader without justice.
Let’s make sure that all the moles are outed, the ones who got career jobs when they should have held political appointments.
Someone wants to blow the whistle on what was done, that’s fine, but name the gatekeepers, the people/person who controlled the information flow who was able to make sure that, say, info on people learning to fly planes but not land them, went nowhere, people like the FBI SAIC who got promoted for ignoring Coleen Rawley, people like Edmonds’s supervisors who ignored her complaints and went on to promote others who were basically part of an espionage cell within the FBI.
No more people left behind like Linda Tripp or Donald Gregg to terrorize this incoming administration. Obama is going to have enough to deal with as it is without having to fight an internal covert op designed to interfere with everything he does.
And that includes getting rid of Short Ride, Reid, Pelosi, and anyone else who was blocking the impeachment of this criminal.
Exactly right!
The higher levels of the bureaucracy (the career Senior Executive Service)
are the people most likely to have evidence on criminal wrong doing, but many of them will be compromised because of the need to “get along” with the “evil doers” in their desire to remain in DC area rather than being reassigned to Boise, Idaho.
Another factor is that the only statutory means of protecting whistleblowers is the independent Office of the Special Counsel, which ever since its creation in 1978 has never provided such whistleblowers timely or effective protection. Even if the Special Counsel wanted to do justice, it is too weak to overcome the resistance of the Department and Agency Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries of Administration, General Counsels, etc.
The one Department that might have the will (especially the Office of civil rights) and the means to clean house is the Justice Department.
The Hague may take it up. Our dirty laundrey should be our job but Obama is so hot not to offend the right!
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