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	<title>Comments on: The Case Against Lieberman</title>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720490</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jane-set a personal record-waaaaaaaay over 1,000 letters sent, radio, tv, print. lost count, wrote until i accidentally deleted my letter. too tired to write a new one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sure hope someone listens and understands that his role in the mccain campaign is the least of the reasons to keep him out of that chair and that they start reporting the real reasons..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tomorrow is phone calls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jane-set a personal record-waaaaaaaay over 1,000 letters sent, radio, tv, print. lost count, wrote until i accidentally deleted my letter. too tired to write a new one.</p>
<p>sure hope someone listens and understands that his role in the mccain campaign is the least of the reasons to keep him out of that chair and that they start reporting the real reasons..</p>
<p>tomorrow is phone calls.</p>
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		<title>By: shekissesfrogs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720313</link>
		<dc:creator>shekissesfrogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here another article on Joe’s good friend, Sampler here on FDL and it’s ugly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/22/liebermans-fundraiser-ran-the-abu-ghraib-of-rehab/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lieberman’s Fundraiser Ran the Abu Ghraib of Rehab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mel Sembler is a former RNC finance chairman and the chair Scooter Libby’s legal defense fund. The Florida real estate tycoon calls Dick Cheney a close friend. No doubt the bond between Sembler and the VP is strengthened by an optimism about the potential for torture to solve problems. If anything Sembler is even more optimistic than Cheney–he believes that torture can cure diseases like addiction.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here another article on Joe’s good friend, Sampler here on FDL and it’s ugly.</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/22/liebermans-fundraiser-ran-the-abu-ghraib-of-rehab/" rel="nofollow">Lieberman’s Fundraiser Ran the Abu Ghraib of Rehab</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mel Sembler is a former RNC finance chairman and the chair Scooter Libby’s legal defense fund. The Florida real estate tycoon calls Dick Cheney a close friend. No doubt the bond between Sembler and the VP is strengthened by an optimism about the potential for torture to solve problems. If anything Sembler is even more optimistic than Cheney–he believes that torture can cure diseases like addiction.
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		<title>By: lvdragonlady</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720266</link>
		<dc:creator>lvdragonlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, and it was mentioned during the campaign, the Obama went to Conn. to talk to a rally for Joe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, and it was mentioned during the campaign, the Obama went to Conn. to talk to a rally for Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: lvdragonlady</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720265</link>
		<dc:creator>lvdragonlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wrong, Joe is a wingnut and plays the old bait and switch depending on which party is in the WH.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry Joe but you have to go…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong, Joe is a wingnut and plays the old bait and switch depending on which party is in the WH.</p>
<p>Sorry Joe but you have to go…</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720264</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know Senator Obama endorsed Joe in 06, but didn’t he cancel his planned appearance to campaign for Joe in CT at the last minute?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t seem to find an answer to this question on teh google.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Senator Obama endorsed Joe in 06, but didn’t he cancel his planned appearance to campaign for Joe in CT at the last minute?</p>
<p>I can’t seem to find an answer to this question on teh google.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720204</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No gavel for Joe.  Chairmanships put Senators in leadership positions, and Joe’s no leader of the Democratic party.  Let the old fool weigh his “options” with Miss McConnell.  I’m sure they are legion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No gavel for Joe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No gavel for Joe.  Chairmanships put Senators in leadership positions, and Joe’s no leader of the Democratic party.  Let the old fool weigh his “options” with Miss McConnell.  I’m sure they are legion.</p>
<p>No gavel for Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720196</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Lowell Weicker. Nader is from CT too.&lt;br /&gt;
According to some older folks in CT (who knew him waaay back when), Lieberman turned into a right-winger about the time of the Clarence Thomas nomination. Some other folks didn’t even like him before that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lowell Weicker. Nader is from CT too.<br />
According to some older folks in CT (who knew him waaay back when), Lieberman turned into a right-winger about the time of the Clarence Thomas nomination. Some other folks didn’t even like him before that.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget that obscene “patriot act” commercial aimed at CT freshman congresscritters, Chris Murphy and Joe Courtney, that played constantly for a while, paid for by a committee Joe Lieberman was on. (I think CTBob had the takedown on that one.)&lt;br /&gt;
I think if we came up with a comprehensive list of Holy Joe’s f*ckedupedness, it would be as long as Hugh’s list.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget that obscene “patriot act” commercial aimed at CT freshman congresscritters, Chris Murphy and Joe Courtney, that played constantly for a while, paid for by a committee Joe Lieberman was on. (I think CTBob had the takedown on that one.)<br />
I think if we came up with a comprehensive list of Holy Joe’s f*ckedupedness, it would be as long as Hugh’s list.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720193</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One wonders how ’seriously’ any of these clowns wish to be taken.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, they want people to ‘respect’ them (or fear them or ‘love’ them) but mostly, they want cushy lifestyles and regular opportunities  to ‘lord’ it over the rest of us. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, I’m not being cynical and, indeed, am most open to clear, unambiguous evidence to the contrary …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, the Congress of the United States and politicians, in general, are held in almost universal un-esteem of such magnitude as to suggest that such ‘opinion’ is not simply of recent origin or reflective of a passing un-fancy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems more deeply rooted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The malaise is deep and serious and not ammenable to ‘trickle-down’ healing at the behest of any ‘elite’ whose sole arguement is that the ‘people’ simply “don’t know the half of it” or else should ‘know’ their ‘place’, as mere ‘advocates’, who must needs stand aside and let the leaders ‘lead’.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, most ‘leaders’ are not in Diocletian’s place;  else they should each declare themselves to be gods or goddesses and be done with this ‘democracy’ nonsense, once and for all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ‘official’ version ALWAYS says that the catastrophe in question could not have been forseen; however, the best and brightest have kept things on ‘an even keel’ and that we are all still on course to get to Heaven, where all virtue shall be rewarded …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders how ’seriously’ any of these clowns wish to be taken.</p>
<p>Oh, they want people to ‘respect’ them (or fear them or ‘love’ them) but mostly, they want cushy lifestyles and regular opportunities  to ‘lord’ it over the rest of us. </p>
<p>Again, I’m not being cynical and, indeed, am most open to clear, unambiguous evidence to the contrary …</p>
<p>However, the Congress of the United States and politicians, in general, are held in almost universal un-esteem of such magnitude as to suggest that such ‘opinion’ is not simply of recent origin or reflective of a passing un-fancy.</p>
<p>It seems more deeply rooted.</p>
<p>The malaise is deep and serious and not ammenable to ‘trickle-down’ healing at the behest of any ‘elite’ whose sole arguement is that the ‘people’ simply “don’t know the half of it” or else should ‘know’ their ‘place’, as mere ‘advocates’, who must needs stand aside and let the leaders ‘lead’.  </p>
<p>Fortunately, most ‘leaders’ are not in Diocletian’s place;  else they should each declare themselves to be gods or goddesses and be done with this ‘democracy’ nonsense, once and for all.</p>
<p>The ‘official’ version ALWAYS says that the catastrophe in question could not have been forseen; however, the best and brightest have kept things on ‘an even keel’ and that we are all still on course to get to Heaven, where all virtue shall be rewarded …</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/the-case-against-lieberman/#comment-1720192</link>
		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Joe Lieberman is one of the most progressive people ever to come from the state of Connecticut&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Spectacularly demonstrably false; one need look no farther than Lowell Weicker, the progressive Republican-turned-independent whom Lieberman defeated in 1988 to launch his execrable Senate career.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Joe Lieberman is one of the most progressive people ever to come from the state of Connecticut</p>
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<p>Spectacularly demonstrably false; one need look no farther than Lowell Weicker, the progressive Republican-turned-independent whom Lieberman defeated in 1988 to launch his execrable Senate career.</p>
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