Comments on: DOJ-Will Anyone Be Left to Turn the Lights Out? http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:28:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: TomPaine http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720503 TomPaine Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:33:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720503 <p>They know where the bodies are buried.</p> They know where the bodies are buried.

]]> By: TomPaine http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720502 TomPaine Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:24:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720502 <p>Look, I would volunteer to do this job for per diem expenses (which would be few) since I already live in the D. C. area. The heavy lifting part — identifying and removing from the federal civil service rolls the attorneys hired in violation of law — of this could be done in less than three months by three competent people. The appeals, if any, could last for a year or more. I doubt that we are talking about mnore than 400-500 attorney hires. The non-attorney hires might be more numerous.</p> Look, I would volunteer to do this job for per diem expenses (which would be few) since I already live in the D. C. area. The heavy lifting part — identifying and removing from the federal civil service rolls the attorneys hired in violation of law — of this could be done in less than three months by three competent people. The appeals, if any, could last for a year or more. I doubt that we are talking about mnore than 400-500 attorney hires. The non-attorney hires might be more numerous.

]]> By: TomPaine http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720500 TomPaine Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:14:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720500 <p>No, You find the evidence, confront them with it and offer them the oportunity to resign or face administrative action leading to removal. They can then appeal that administrative action to the Merit System Protection Board for its review and decision.</p> No, You find the evidence, confront them with it and offer them the oportunity to resign or face administrative action leading to removal. They can then appeal that administrative action to the Merit System Protection Board for its review and decision.

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720499 looseheadprop Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:01:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720499 <p>You are right, mixed greek metaphors–word salad for Prop today. :-)</p> You are right, mixed greek metaphors–word salad for Prop today. :-)

]]> By: bobschacht http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720485 bobschacht Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:29:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720485 <p>LHP,<br /> I suspect that you have your Greek examples mixed up!<br /> The Stables you have in mind, I think, are the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augeas" rel="nofollow">Augean ones</a></p> <p>However, sysiphean might be a nice Freudian slip in this regard!<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus" rel="nofollow">Sisyphus</a> was the poor dude whose eternal challenge was to roll the rock up to the top of the hill, but whenever he got it up that far, it would roll down the hill and he’d have to set to work rolling it back up the hill.</p> <p>Let’s hope that the DOJ problem is finite, and not infinite!</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> LHP,
I suspect that you have your Greek examples mixed up!
The Stables you have in mind, I think, are the Augean ones

However, sysiphean might be a nice Freudian slip in this regard!
Sisyphus was the poor dude whose eternal challenge was to roll the rock up to the top of the hill, but whenever he got it up that far, it would roll down the hill and he’d have to set to work rolling it back up the hill.

Let’s hope that the DOJ problem is finite, and not infinite!

Bob in HI

]]> By: Mary http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720479 Mary Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:24:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720479 <p>142 et pre - I think you have a few people like Monica with immunity deals who might be required to continue to provide cooperation, with respect to the who-s and how-s of her efforts to stack DOJ. Also, I think the immigration judges have a lot of info already spelled out on how those were handled. In any event, I think if that immunity deal had teeth, Monica could be forced to ante up info to clarify slots that could and should be re-opened. You might not catch evertyhing that way, but you’d at least do something. </p> <p>148 - Patrick, Holder and Napolitano are the ones that I’ve heard most frequently, but that’s just a quantitative take.</p> <p>92 - “there is that boy scout streak in him” go ask Maher Arar’s little girl about that boy scout streak. I’m betting she’d have a very hard time finding it - is there a special badge you get for covering up for Larry Thompson and John Ashcroft and George Bush and filing a “state secrets” affidavit to cover up a man’s DOJ initiated torture? I guess he must have the same boy scout streak that Haynes took with him to Chevron - what with Comey bending over backwards to try to get Haynes and his torture portfolio onto the 4th Circuit. Higazy, Padilla - the boy scouts of today must be very different from what I remember.</p> 142 et pre – I think you have a few people like Monica with immunity deals who might be required to continue to provide cooperation, with respect to the who-s and how-s of her efforts to stack DOJ. Also, I think the immigration judges have a lot of info already spelled out on how those were handled. In any event, I think if that immunity deal had teeth, Monica could be forced to ante up info to clarify slots that could and should be re-opened. You might not catch evertyhing that way, but you’d at least do something.

148 – Patrick, Holder and Napolitano are the ones that I’ve heard most frequently, but that’s just a quantitative take.

92 – “there is that boy scout streak in him” go ask Maher Arar’s little girl about that boy scout streak. I’m betting she’d have a very hard time finding it – is there a special badge you get for covering up for Larry Thompson and John Ashcroft and George Bush and filing a “state secrets” affidavit to cover up a man’s DOJ initiated torture? I guess he must have the same boy scout streak that Haynes took with him to Chevron – what with Comey bending over backwards to try to get Haynes and his torture portfolio onto the 4th Circuit. Higazy, Padilla – the boy scouts of today must be very different from what I remember.

]]> By: peterboy http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720468 peterboy Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:18:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720468 <p>as much as i respect LHP, enough folks have already called BS on this post. NEW DOJ bosses need to do a full review of BUSHCO hiring policies and then use what they have discovered review and place on probation or fire all the GOODLING AND OTHER FUNDY APPROVED hirings.</p> as much as i respect LHP, enough folks have already called BS on this post. NEW DOJ bosses need to do a full review of BUSHCO hiring policies and then use what they have discovered review and place on probation or fire all the GOODLING AND OTHER FUNDY APPROVED hirings.

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720466 looseheadprop Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:14:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720466 <p>I have heard the Gov. patrick was on some people’s short lists. I know NOTHING about the man. Zero, zilch and therefore have nothing upon which to base an opinion</p> I have heard the Gov. patrick was on some people’s short lists. I know NOTHING about the man. Zero, zilch and therefore have nothing upon which to base an opinion

]]> By: 1oldlady http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720463 1oldlady Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:13:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720463 <p>This has been a living nightmare…and in some strange way what happen on Nov. 4 showed them that they are no longer valid, but after this honeymoon has settled, part of me wants “revenge”! is that wrong I just want to feel again…:)apart of my government!</p> This has been a living nightmare…and in some strange way what happen on Nov. 4 showed them that they are no longer valid, but after this honeymoon has settled, part of me wants “revenge”! is that wrong I just want to feel again…:)apart of my government!

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720462 looseheadprop Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:13:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/10/doj-will-anyone-be-left-to-turn-the-lights-out/#comment-1720462 <p>Tom you are clearly not afraid of the sysiphean stables.</p> Tom you are clearly not afraid of the sysiphean stables.

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