BT!
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I heart your snark!

XXOO
FunnyDiva

PS, how do we start seriously challenging this “oooh, he better be moderate” crap meme? It’s just beyond stoopid!

FunnyD

Funny how the wingnut thought process (sic) works.

We are a center right nation by the way ;-)

Even more worrying is hearing the “we must govern from the center” meme from Pelosi. Hello! Nancy! If you want to find the center, look to your LEFT.

Hey BT!
The Goopers willingness to shake their fingers at Obama and say “Do not in any way govern unlike a Republican” is both astounding and unsurprising. They have to say something while their house burns down.

Here’s what I said on the last thread about reaching across the aisle:

Here’s the other downside of reaching across the aisle. (The main one is pissing off everyone who voted for you.) The other side doesn’t appreciate it & takes you for a patsy. For example, in the Heritage woman’s panel I just watched, the subject of Obama appointing some Rs came up. the panel member who responded said: Well the names of people who have come up are not really Rs anyway.

Betcha Noonan reacts to every R Obama appoints just like the Heritage gals.

We ask everyone, “If we’re a center-right nation, why did we just decisively vote against John McCain, the center-right candidate?”

Obama and the Democrats won a decisive victory. The only lesson that can be drawn from this is that they must govern as Republicans. Now this is crazy but we will see in the coming days and months how much Obama and the Democrats buy into it.

I really really hope no one listens to this crap. Unfortunately, I get the sinking feeling that Reid is.

contact your Senators re Lieberman!

Republicans (and some stupid Dems) are getting this meme out though. So people are going to start buying it if it’s not countered forcefully.

Why aren’t we framing it as, “Obama won 62.95 million votes, the largest in this nation’s history. Clearly giving him a mandate.”

Remember…in the REthug Unabridged Dictionary(2008 ed.):
Bipartisan: Democrats shall not twitch too much when we make them lay down so that we can drive the backhoe over them.
Peggy, Peggy, Peggy — the answer is — in a word — NO>

Obama has a mandate to be the Re-Distributionist in Chief. :-) The Poor Wingtards are just going to have to suck it up.

Since 1994, Republics have been completely partisan. It’s funny now to see them insist that bi-partisanship is the way to go.

Question: How much time is a nanosecond?

Answer: The length of time Obama needs to decide whether Noonan’s advice on how he should govern is worth considering.

That time by the way is several hundred million times shorter than the time it took you to read this post.

There’s a leadership vacuum on the Republic side and I’m guessing that Newt is busy planning his comeback. He has no leadership skills beyond rhetorical bomb throwing so he may not be such a great choice.

we will see in the coming days and months how much Obama and the Democrats buy into it.

in 30 minutes obama will hold a press conference after meeting with his teama of economic advisors. cspan to carry live.

I just put in my $0.02 over at change.gov.

Noonan is passable plagiarist and incompetent political observe, being morally bankrupt and partisan-ly myopic. She always has been irrelevant. Might we consign her to a barren island somewhere with Joe Lieberman?

I think I might watch it on cnbc to get the financial market spin on it.

Here’s your mandate.
Click on #3.

“nice moderate McCain-Palin administration”….?

Come again????

Is that what we were going to call them when First Mom’s Mutawwa’in religious police knock down on doors and haul us away?

Is there any chance that Noonan will go away with the Bush Administration? I really can’t take much more of her whining. As far as I can tell nobody cares what she thinks.

oh, please do – and please share!

in a year when all the stars were aligned against the Republicans..

There ya got it. Not bad republican policies or actions. Just an unfortunate planet configuration.

Better play it safe and govern like that nice moderate McCain-Palin administration would.

My namesake at the New York Times goes one better, actually offering up a list of Repug operatives that Obama simply must include in his government, to prove that he’s serious about bipartisanship. Cheney’s not in his must-hire list, but Gates is.

Politico exclusive: Byrd giving up chairmanship.

Right now I am learning that it’s not OK to bail out the car corps unless they get their labor costs down. Contrast that with: Oh no, exec comp at bailed out fin corps is no business of the govt, that we heard a month or so ago. And, of course, they have no idea of their hypocrisy.

OMG. He has the buffoon Holtz-Eakin on the list. What morons (Brooks & H-E).

And Reid is planning on giving the chair to Akaka if I recall. Akaka campigned for Sen. Toobz up in Alaska after he was a convicted felon. Guess Reid does not have much leverage on Lieberman now does he?

I would be more likely to agree with Noonan that Obama should be a “moderate” president if I thought that by “moderate,” she meant what I think “moderate” means.

I’ve mainly just heard Hagel’s and Gates’ names mooted. If that’s the extent of bipartisanship in Obama toplevel staffing, I could probably live with it.

Do you mean Senator Inouye?
I didn’t know Akaka was in the bag for Stevens.

why not Clark for defense?

labor is a cost of business while executive compensation is the purpose of business?

Not really. Their mindset is: “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is negotiable.”

Start from that premise with them and everything falls into place.

hehe.. in theory, shareholder returns are the purpose of business… exec compensation is just another labor cost

really really hope no one listens to this crap. Unfortunately, I get the sinking feeling that Reid is.

And Pelosi.

Yes. I may have mixed up my Hawaii senators. My Bad.

it depends on what job they’re given. i might be ok with hagel in charge of israeli / palestinian negotiations but not women’s health.

Something like that.

That was Inouye who is up for the Appropriations chair, not Akaka. He and Toobz have been in the House and Senate together since Alaska and Hawaii became states.

yeah… I’m assuming its going to be either/or and not both and then in some national-securitish/intelligency type capacity

But you forget that execs only get paid for increasing “shareholder value.” /s

I do that with Senators DeMint and Brownback.

It sure is odd how all these Right Wing pundits are all wanting to be so fucking reasonable all of a sudden.
Not Ready To Make Nice ring a bell you arseholes?

um.. how much does the CEO of GM make?

Did you catch my snark tag?

If that pisses you off, hide your eyes and plug your ears when Buchanan or Michelle Barnard are on the tube.
“Do your tax thing, but don’t you dare touch the culture.”

cspan reports that obama’s press conference will start 10-15 minutes late.

$14 million in 2007

Isn’t that a mortal sin after 8 years of everything starting a minute early? Clinton comparisons will be coming out all over.

LHP has a new post up: “Why the Garcia Hit on Spitzer is About More Than an Injustice Done to Eliot”

certainly not for sending all those yummy commissions to wall street/s

Funny, after the Bush/GOP theft of the 2000 Presidential Election and the destruction (temporary, hopefully) of our 200+ year old democracy, Mr. Bush immmediately took a hard right turn in January, 2001. He started off by imposing new restrictions on US legal abortion support in foreign countries. Don’t recall hearing a peep out of little Miss Bo Noonan on that bit of hard-right movement…

I’ll answer my own question. Rick Wagoner paid himself $15.7 million in 2007, up 74% from 2006. 2007 EBITDA $5.123 billion (net income of -38 billion), 2006 EBITDA $6.062 billion (-2 billion). So.. he made less money in 2007 and made a massively bigger hit to EPS than in 2006, and somehow managed to nearly double his compensation. Then in 2008, his company goes bust (or is about to). Yep. Creating shareholder value there, Rick.

Minty Brownback? I’m not even going there

Ah, dog!
I’m wondering if you are not altogether well! LOL!

as someone who has on occasion forgotten the day as well as the time, i have a soft spot for people who are sometimes a few minutes late.

got it :-P.. I just wanted to make the point (always) that Rick Wagoner is a criminal.

This is already a dramatic time—two wars, economic collapse—and people are rattled.

This is a neo-con nation. They stole the country fair and square. Well maybe not fair and square, But they did use lies, threats, bribes and false flag operations which is a lot of work. The neo-cons stole the cable teevee and the broadcast teevee. They gave us a catastrophic and catalytic event the 9-11 attacks. These were financed through the
Riggs Bank with the help of Prinve Bandar, Uncle Jonathon Bush, and the owners of POLITICO.COM.

The Dramatic two wars and economic collapse has been very profitable for the Nooner, are now at risk. I blame the angry cruel leftist bloggers. They keep fighting the New Corporate World Order. Mean Bloggers, STOP IT!

certainly one of you must realize that this is the pundits’ attempt to spike the post-election mccain campaign kool aid.

all this center-left/center-right BS propaganda is the media being used as a tool to unite the unwashed masses — to manufacture the currency to get everyone on the obama “change” bus.

stop thinking in terms or right/left. this is the hegelian dialectic at work.

And Pelosi.

Nah, Nancy has an even bigger majority to play with, and I think she might take it for a spin. Reid, on the other hand, could have a 65 seat majority to play with and still cower.

Just a note:

Peggy Noonan: Though His Victory Was Larger Than Either Of Bush’s, Obama Must Heed Republican Voters’ Wishes
By: Blue Texan…

According to Wikipedia (which can be sourced elsewhere) the margin of victory for Obama was only slightly wider, but for the most part, equivalant (in percentage points, if not electoral votes) to that of G H W Bush over M Dukakis in ‘88

Obama 52.5% McCain 46.2
G H W Bush 53.4 Dukakis 45.6

And much much bigger than either of Clintons victories in ‘92 and ‘96.

I say screw Noonan and her wet dream of Obama governing in a right wing fashion. Screw the Republicon party and all their enablers in the corporate media.

The president received more than 59 million votes, breaking Ronald Reagan’s old record of 54.5 million…

Obama = 63 mil

This is such a good find. Reading Noonan’s 2004 column, especially when you compare it with her prognostications of today, makes you wonder if she’s sane.

The Blue Texan’s remarks are featured on RealityChex.com at http://www.realitychex.com along with other matters presidential (&, oh yeah, a link to firedoglake’s great “Joe Must Go” campaign).

Hey, they’ve proven big enough to forgive themselves, why can’t we?

****her. ****her up the *** with a rusty ******. I hope she ***** with a painful ***** in the *** and takes the rest of the ****** **** ***** with her. I don’t want to hear anything else from these ******** who’s minds and mouths are full of ****. They have no brains, no reasoning power, and are supremely unaware of their own thinking.

********* that ****** to ***** at that goes for all of them.

In a nutshell, the Republican voters who voted for that “other ticket” better get with the program and hitch onto the “O” train or they will be left behind. Thee GOP has become a party of racists, kooks and nutjobs. Frankly, Obama doesn’t owe these fools anything. They lost and now it’s time to get with Obama’s program. Right now Texas road kill gets more props than these idiots!!

Not many gracious winners here. Of course, that’s not entirely without reason. Still …

I think it’s great Noonan understand where we want to go: peace, prosperity, sanity in governance. It’s too bad they couldn’t apply that to the Republican administration and McCain’s campaign. Now they have to trust us a bit.

Still, since she understands what we’re about it allows us to read from the same page of the script and manage a peaceful coexistence. Hopefully that degree of political peace will give the Republicans time to right their ship and find new leadership with new ideas for their part of the electorate. We are, despite some indications, all Americans and as such need good leaders.

Dems, on the other hand, are moving along quite nicely and are, with a few exceptions, accepting the best that each part of our party has to offer. It’s a great start. The one notable exception is of Treasury and I feel certain that will be resolved well too. The worsening economy will probably force us to use EVERY resource we have instead of picking & choosing.

“Moderation in all things” is a curious thing to be hearing from a Republican, but I understand she wants the return to normality we Democrats have also yearned for. Even our political opponents have retirement funds to protect. I think the “moderation” we’ll see first is simply governance without ‘politics first’. Moderating the influence of politics in the governance process will make life easier and better for a lot of people. Moderation in foreign policy is something Dems have been begging for for years now. It’s a slow process, but we’ll get there as quickly as we can. Moderation in terms of changing society or inflicting unpopular law is something I wouldn’t expect from Obama since he’s so cautious.

Yes, I think we can all expect moderation in almost everything.

Dearest Blue Texan,

I stopped by my Aunt’s house the other day and, of course Oprah was on. There on the screen was Peggy speaking in her SPECial WaY. I sat there and hoped that someone had called or sent you a message that she was on TV so we could read a snarky post about the crazy logic she loves.

Thanks, keep them coming! That woman is a hoot. The last time I saw her on TV, David Gregory was actually saying something like – Peggy you are on the show because of your resume … she did that kinda side bow she does sitting down, maybe someday she will just stand up and take a bow! (my secret dream)

Thanks for throwing Palin under the bus, Peggy. Hope you and David Brooks enjoy the money from Soros.

As far as blowbama is concerned; “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in vast numbers.”