One cannot have watched the folks all across the nation, standing in line to cast their ballots for the last few weeks from the start of early voting through the last ballot at the close yesterday without a bit of a smile. And some understanding of the genius of national renewal in each election of the "for the people, by the people" mandate on which this nation has run since its Founding.
However, anyone think after the overwhelming turn-out numbers and voting participation across the country that the voter suppression tactics of the GOP are now a bygone era remnant? A little reminder of the Hans Von Spakovsky anti-voter access trial balloon from September:
...The most important lesson of Greene County is that absentee ballots are extremely vulnerable to voter fraud. The case shows how absentee ballot fraud really works, and it is a reality very different from the claims of partisans and advocacy groups. More broadly, the case shows how voter fraud threatens the right to free and fair elections and how those most often harmed are poor and minorities. This directly rebuts the usual partisan conspiracy theories about voter fraud.
Anyone else see an attack on absentee ballots as analogous to early voting in general. Because longer lines and more difficulty therefore casting a ballot means fewer voters overall. Meaning the vote is easier to game and control.
I fear that yesterday's orchestrated Philly hysterics were but a prelude for the next wave.
But now that so many among the American public have gotten a taste of active participation in voting? What say we push it forward: active participation in government by holding elected officials to account on making voter participation an even more sacred, more logical and more protected right? Instead of looking for ways to cut people out of their rightful vote, what say we work all the harder to keep them interested in voting every election cycle?
If elected officials across the country know what is good for them, and if the more engaged voters have really woken up to the reality that we all get the government that we all work for -- then let's try working together for a change instead of allowing a few self-interested bad apples game the system to to restrict what Americans have a legal right to: casting a lawful ballot.
We must demand better, more accurate voting. It's essential for the health of the democracy.
But, more than that, we must demand that the law not be used as a cudgel to silence the less powerful. No American should have the law used as a tool to keep them in their place. And it is time that GOP operatives pimping offensive voter fraud hysteria about the few and far between actual prosecutable cases were called exactly what they are: undemocratic, manipulative tools for the lessening of us all.
If we learned nothing else from yesterday, let it be this: Americans should be encouraged at every turn to participate fully in their governance, for the good -- the whole good -- of us all.
UPDATE: Well, that was quick. Bob Geiger spotted the Hannity "was Obama's win legit" post a bit ago. Sad, yet predictable, isn't it?
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Will The GOP Continue Fighting Voter Access And Participation?
Is the Pope Catholic? It’s what the modern Republican Party DOES. The nation’s segregationists and other bigots have found a comfy home in the GOP and there’s absolutely nothing to stop them from keeping on keeping on. Which is why the GOP is in danger of fading away like the Whiggs.
I would like to see the Obama administration take a hard look at this subject and see if there weren’t some laws broken. Some severe financial penalties and some lengthy jail terms should send the message that the right to vote is sacrosanct.
I still have “I Voted:” stickers left over….
Thanks Christy. digg
Evening, Christy — What I would love to see(and I’m not sure how to accomplish it)is if only 1% of those passionate voters who stood in line, in the rain, for hours, to make sure their votes got cast and got counted properly and who took cameras and phones and what not to fight for their right to vote…if only 1% of those people got involved in doing things like emailing and faxing and calling their congress critters…Congress would KNOW that they had woken the sleeping giant at last.
Oh, and the Congressional IT office would have this huge headache because if our phone calls and emails and faxes crashed the servers during FISA, can you imagine what thousands of more people would do to it? Time for someone to ask for some budget money for a big honkin’ server ‘farm’ for these guys.
Could Allegations Invalidate Senate Results?
Excellent comment, thank you.
I like your use of the term “segregationists.”
I’m wondering if there is any evidence that voter intimidation and disenfranchisement occurred. We are all happy about the results…but it may be that certain Representatives and races were decided by such acts.
Currently in Georgia, a substantial number of early voter results from Fulton and Gwinnett Counties are still uncounted. That could be as many as 275,000!
http://www.11alive.com/news/lo.....ovider=top
In N.Carolina I heard that large numbers of students with post-office box addresses in a dorm were compelled to submit provisional ballots. Some were challenged because they had, under duress from their county registrar and a campus official, applied for absentee ballots in their home state. Though they asserted that they had not submitted these ballots they were still challenged.
There were students at Grinnell in Iowqa that were challenged.
We know how the student vote swung to Obama. So these “attacks” should be investigated, and if falling into “intimidation” or fraud, the perpetrators should be prosecuted.
Would love it if the Feds could prosecute Wisconsin’s neocon AG, Former AG Lautenschlager: Van Hollen wants to suppress voters
Christy, it just amazes me that in the year 2008, with all our technological superiority and ability to make things happen (see war, Iraq) out of nothing, that we haven’t conquered voting like the Canadians and most European countries have.
On another note, as a second-class citizen here in Florida, losing my right to vote is not far down the slippery slope from not having the right to marry or adopt. I guess the Dream will have to remain just that for another few seasons for some of us Americans.
I hope that we can fix both the voting problems and the institutionalization of hatred before I draw my last breath. That’s what I’ll be working on anyway….
Shouldn’t election procedures discussions include IRV?? Instant run-off voting, disliked by both major parties really appeals to me.
Will The GOP Continue Fighting Voter Access And Participation?
Is the Pope Catholic?
One of the many fronts on which Obama should wage immediate war (in addition to cleaning up the economy, getting out of Iraq, and removing the Federalist Society and Regent Law School grads from the DOJ) is bringing the fight to the GOP on vote suppression.
I would love to have Hans, Rove and all of their vote suppressing ilk placed on record in Congressional hearings–with full subpoena power backed up the DOJ and jail if they refuse to comply!–and have the Congressional staff work up and the entire details of every vote rigging/suppression/caging gimmick they have tried so that any perjury can be confronted in the hearing and prosecuted after.
I do not see Rove telling the truth, ever, even after he gets his pardon from Bush.
Rove in jail for perjury? Sometimes dreams can come true.
We get away with an awful lot in this country, thinking that we do things better than anyone else. Bring in international monitors for a big election (2010?) and get ready for shrieks of horror and gales of laughter. THAT might embarass us into actually doing voting right.
Two fundamental political goals: protect and assure voter access. And win more governorships in 2010.
The 2000 election was stolen. Yet after 8 years we still have a hodge-podge of voting methods, political partisans running the state systems, uneven distribution of voting equipment, hackable software, partisan equipment suppliers, and the lack of a universal paper trail. I’ve heard people blow this off as that this is a state responsibility and so can’t be legislated by the federal government. But if the federal government is the one paying for a better system, it can demand greater uniformity and transparency in the process.
I agree with those who say that voter registration should be tied to one’s birth. You’re born here, you’re registered.
When we had Michael Waldman on from the Brennan Center for his book salon, I was really struck by how much of a hodge podge voting laws really are in this country. I knew it was a weird amalgam — but I honestly had NO idea how craptastically stuck together with string and feathers the entire thing truly is until I read his book, Return to Common Sense.
Honestly, Priscilla is right: how in the hell can we have come this far, and still be this bass-ackwards?
Christy,
You are right again, and thanks for this. Republican vote suppression tactics work when elections are close, and now that we know most of their tricks, we must work with determination to quash all of their dirty deeds, such as:
* Vote tampering with proprietary electronic voting machines, and lax security of votes;
* Voter suppression, with a modern version of the poll tax, as Rachel Maddow so eloquently pointed out several days ago, including such tactics as Voter caging;
* Unfair distribution of voting machines, including (a) too few voting machines in minority districts; (b) relegation of older and less reliable voting machines to minority districts.
These are just some of the main tricks. We need a new HAVA Act, done right, and not perverted by Republican as the last HAVA act was.
Bob in HI
We sure do need better voting. It should be a national holiday so any worker can vote.
There should be instant run off voting to provide more accurate and varied choices to voters.
There should be a national standard for voting and it should not be privatized…. and that’s just for starters.
On that note I have not heard much if anything about the Dan Rather documentary detailing how the ballots in FL in 2000 were purposefully manufactured to be defective. The documentary does not conclude why this was done, although I bet it was to later sell the touchscreens.
http://www.hd.net/drr227.html
The touchscreens are notoriously defective in addition to being a black box. They are made by the same people that made the ballots with defective paper that led to hanging chads and a supreme court decision in FL.
The ballots had a long history of success until 2000.
One of the things that worried me so much about the test article on absentee ballots was the potential for it to impact low-income voters who used them to vote when they couldn’t get off work, or elderly folks who had mobility issues or…even worse…enlisted folks in the military voting from overseas who, this year anyway, were reportedly trending Dem.
I’m sorry, I don’t give a crap who you are voting for, if you are entitled to cast a ballot, your ballot should be counted. Period. If you vote lawfully, there is no excuse for someone trying to gip you out of your vote.
Oh, before I forget to mention it — loved the color in the picture above. That aqua door just pops, doesn’t it? Beautiful shot.
That brings up another issue. The day that a national vote takes place should either be on a weekend or made a holiday so that more people can vote more easily.
And don’t get me started on the electoral college or why Rhode Island or North Dakota should have as many Senators as California.
Updates above with this: Well, that was quick. Bob Geiger spotted the Hannity “was Obama’s win legit” post a bit ago. Sad, yet predictable, isn’t it?
Yeah, the electoral college is a whole mess unto itself, isn’t it?
We really need a constitutional convention to bring the guiding document into the 21st century. No need to start again… but some major tweaks are in order.
I meant to ask you, Christy. LHP had a thread about people to head the DOJ in an Obama Administration. She mentioned Comey for AG which sent up red flags for me. I am not very familiar with the Democratic legal pool but I was wondering if you had any ideas. I can think of a few including some who have dropped by here, like Erwin Chemerinsky.
Yes to many of the things written here.
However, I still remember an aldermanic election in the last decade in the city of Chicago decided by about 30 votes, with hundreds of questionable absentees and other problems, after which, the Chicago Board of Elections “lost” the ballots before the recount could be pursued. I’ve spoken with voters in minority communities in Chicago who had precinct captains come by to “help them” fill out the ballot (meaning verify how they were voting, with the implied threat that they might suffer if they voted wrong). And it was just the last election cycle that a mayoral election in Hammond, IN was thrown out because of rampant absentee ballot fraud.
I don’t want to throw out the baby with the Hans von Spakowsky icky bathwater. Certainly, the secrecy of the ballot can be easily protected with early voting. I think there should be improved procedures for handling early voting, because I’m not at all sure what would prevent tampering under the procedures I witnessed here in Chicago this year.
How about one person one vote for the national offices?
How about term limits for the supremes?
How about no private money in the electoral process?
How about time limiting the election “season”?
I would like to see Obi note go bi partisan, but produce some REAL new facess for the cabinet. No more Clinton retreads. There is plenty of talent out there. Go for it. Si Se puede!
Nice wish list. Wish it would happen, but it won’t.
This evening’s requested lullaby selection: Rainbow Connection from The Muppet Movie.
Yeah, about the electoral college. I wish I could remember the details of why this won’t go away if it is left up to states to at least do the minimal change of apportioning electoral votes according to % votes, but it was at FDL, and it was eye-opening reading about the political jockeying that would ensue, and how the first state that did it would lose it’s Red or Blue power etc. Does anyone else remember this discussion? Or possible fill in the blanks of my vague memory of the issues?
Vote by mail -easy, cheap and higher rates of participation.
The entire state of Oregon votes by mail California has begun to have vote by mail precincts because they can’t find people to work the polls in some of the least dense areas.
Sinnce the Republicans can’t in an honest fashion then they will lie, cheat and steal.
Christy,
Wonderful work leading up to the election.
We are blessed with Republican Blackbox system. When I went to vote yesterday there as an IT guy there scurrying behind the machines trying to match sign in totals w/readout on back of machines, maybe they were off but it seemed hard keeping track of those in line but not yet voted. When we used lever machines there was no need for any tech guy.
Hand counted uniform paper ballots for me please.
In addition to the AG of the DoJ, I like to know whom Obama is going to select to head the NSA? Fourth Amendment rights and all…
I canthink of a number of people — not including Eric Holder. Add me into the “oh please, not Holder” column. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. I think Chemerinsky would make a great judge, but I don’t know anything about his executive experience in running something like DOJ would require — so it’s tough to comment.
Comey wouldn’t be my choice for AG — LHP and I have had that discussion before, I think — mainly due to Padilla, honestly. But his knowledge of DOJ internals would really be invaluable in terms of reconstructing DOJ culture, so that makes him useful in that context.
Personally, the name I’ve heard batted about that I find very intriguing is Janet Napolitano from AZ. She has fantastic executive experience, I’ve heard enormously good things about how she has run things in AZ and about the quality level of people she attracts around her.
Awww — thanks much. What I really need is a nap. It will be early to bed for me tonight…or else. *G*
in lhp’s thread, mary gave a link to an article by laura rozen that describes jane harman as wanting either dni or homeland security.
Isn’t Harmon a D neocon?
Janet is good but the AZ Secretary of State Jan Brewer would fill her post and she is a Republican. Do you want to do that to Arizona?
It was right about the time that some Repugs wanted to split the Cali electoral college votes…
Someone was explaining the choice of election day a few weeks ago. Had a lot to do with common labor practices re: Agriculture 100 years ago. Shorter version: seemed like a good idea at the time. National conditions have changed almost completely since then, regarding the original rationalizations.
Its time to reconsider.
Bob in HI
I believe you are remembering the discussion of the R proposal in CA (Daryl Issa again?) to award electoral votes by Congressional District rather than statewide. Right now, only Nebraska and Maine do this with the winner of a CD getting a vote and the statewide winner getting the two electoral votes tied to the senate seats.
It was an R move to try to game the system. If it’s such a viable idea, then the discussion was to do it in Texas and Florida and NY as well as CA in order to level the playing field.
Not particularly. But if it prevents Eric Holder from getting the job and, thus, I’m not beating my head on my keyboard every morning when I sit down to write? Then I’ll consider it a good trade-off. Sorry.
Fill in the bubble, optically scanned paper ballots work beautifully, you have the paper trail and the quickness in reporting…! ;-)
depends on how you define neocon. not someone i’d choose - another person imo too tainted by her involvement/knowledge of bushco’s bad acts (torture and spying).
FWIW, the sole person who has talked about Jane Harmon for either post? Jane Harmon. Haven’t heard her name come up in any other context other than leaks from her office and her pals. Never a good sign for your desire to snag something if you have to float yourself out for it… *g*
Re the electoral college, it gives greater weight to small states (population-wise) and so these would be the ones to resist it. I forget who but someone came up with the idea of sidestepping a Constitutional amendment and go state by state and have them certify that their electoral votes would go automatically to the winner of the popular vote. Nifty idea.
That’s part of what I mean by neocon. The other part is favoring a “muscular” foreign policy, meaning use the military whenever & wherever possible. And Israel centric.
Why is it a bad thing to have some level of balance equalizing the small states with the large ones?
Yes, having two senators per state and electoral votes allows Rhode Island and Wyoming and New Hampshire and Vermont to have some power?
But would your way of doing away with Senators not wind up ceding too much power to the large population states? Wouldn’t that wind up as a tyranny of the majority, which is exactly what the purpose of having 2 senators per state was designed to prevent?
Heh. Happy to hear that only Jane Harmon wants Jane Harmon.
I believe 2 sen/state was more like a bribe to get them to ratify the constitution.
Yea it was Rudy Guliani’s backers who wanted it on the ballot for this general election (Nov 2008) and for it to become effective immediately. And yea, Issa was involved too
And the purpose was to equalize the small states and the large. Which purpose is still valid.
It violates the principle of one man one vote. Personally, I think this principle is more important than a vague political balancing act of dubious effectiveness.
This nation has never had “one man one vote” at the national level. It does at the state levels.
So I guess you and I are going to agree to disagree on this issue.
that’s all i wrote - that harmon wants it. though it was interesting.
CT, dakaine and John in Sacramento- ah, yes, that is def when it came up at FDL, now that you’ve jogged my memory. I don’t remember the date, so I might have a hard time finding the thread. But, it was an interesting and informative discussion- raised the “political dynamics” of the issue to a level I hadn’t thought about before.
Except in wet weather, if the paper forms get wet from dripping umbrellas, raincoats, or hats. That messed up the process in at least one place, according to a news report.
Bob in HI
/sidebar — it was sweet to see that Rick Santorum’s absentee ballot was challenged on the grounds he really lives in another state.
ha ha ha ha ha
Op-scans or any other software dependent voting system invite election tampering because they can be easily and undetectably manipulated. Yes, you have paper ballots but, depending on the state laws, re-counts are cumbersome to obtain and if granted might occur weeks, if not months, after the election has been certified. More importantly once they leave the public sphere of the polling place the paper ballots are, at best, tainted evidence of the voters’ intent. Lever machines, which, in marked contrast to software dependent voting systems, were designed to deter theft, or paper ballots counted in public view at the polling places on election night are the safest answers.
As an active Ohio citizen here are my thoughts:
First, no system will work when there are people of ill-will safeguarding the integrity of the process at all levels- top to bottom. We solved that partially in Ohio by the election of Jennifer Brunner. But the Democratic and the Republican parties are in charge of resolving who the candidates for that office will be. In recent past, one of the parties made that decision deliberately out of ill-will, i.e. Kenneth Blackwell. Criminal Penalties must be inacted.
Second, more poll workers & better training. Oddly, some of the problems at polling places occur precisely because poll workers have personal long-time commitment to this citizen work. Procedures and directives change from election to election and even, within the weeks or day of active voting. Open-mindedness and nimble thinking can be enhanced among poll workers if the pool of citizens willing to work becomes larger and more diverse in age, profession and class. This is how the vast number of young and old voting activists- the canvassers and telephone callers in campaign field sites- must help. Every election cycle some of these activists should chose to join the ranks of poll workers; not necessarily as a lifetime commitment. Every poll worker training session (and there should be more) will be improved by cooperative learning techniques that employ the sharing of knowledge between experienced and novice.
Three, increase the number of voting rights “poll watchers”. In a word, more ombudsmen within the polling places: ndividuals whose team-player actions gain the respect and camaraderie of the poll workers. Poll watchers can see specific situations with a sensitive and objective eye. (I could tell you stories!) Because these poll watchers have no direct responsibility for any single tedious and repetitious task, they can be very helpful to poll workers.
Simple but crucial social issues of crowd control, hospitality and childcare are too significant at most polling sites to leave to chance or a poll worker’s split attention. On a personal note, I am proud of the role I played at the busy 6 precinct polling place. Everyone I came in contact with recognized that I was essential to the voting process and, before the polls even opened at 6:30 am, I was appreciated by hard-working poll workers and voters. But I also know that my Republican counterpart was unappreciated and generally ignored (after initially being severely reprimanded) because of her “hoity-toity” adversarial and illegal actions!
Fourth, bi-partisan Boards of Elections must include third parties. The duo struggle of self-interest between Republican and Democratic Supervisors is masked in collegial tit for tat. The patronage political appointments often favor unqualified loyalty rather than intelligent open-minded small “d” problem-solving knowledge and skills (especially regarding ballot design.) Independent, Green, and Libertarians often have “no dog in the fight” and may bring fresh insight into the behind the scenes decision-making. The 2004 Recount was a perfect example, without the Green party and Libertarians, only Republicans would have seen the “bending of the rules” that was Corruption.
In my dream world, I would like BOE’s and e-voting control and counting to be non-partisan and a national ballot for national offices.