America is a center-right nation that no longer believes anything the Republicans say.

works for me!
McCain’s SCARE US ads are laughable now.

the thing is they don’t connect the dots eli, and they deliberately

they push buttons, they say whatever they want no matter how detached from reality

case in point, palin insists she was not found guilty, as does her mentor

they believe all they have to do is repeat something often enough and people believe whatever it is they are saying

they create their own reality

The Rs post election tack is completely clear: blame the Ds. If you thought the right wing conspiracy against Clinton was bad, you ain’t seen nuttin yet. Rs are going to do everything possible to prevent the Ds from governing.

RRRRAAAWAAAWWWWW!!!!!!1111

boo!

I’m scared and want my every move watched!

Did I miss something, when did Dave Neiwart leave? Haven’t seen him post in a while.

but, but, my first amendment rights are threatened because of criticism./s

posted this already on attackerman but worth a repeat:
http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/inde…..88-EFAwElx

Of course, as Digby says, hypocrisy matters not to the Republicans. Neither does logical consistency.

Hopefully, they’ll be significantly marginalized by this election cycle to render them largely toothless…!

/me been on the cypress hill thang this last week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z058NRkA6Ss

Darn that Forest Feighner! Darn him to HECK!

That will only make them try harder.

no shit, i’ve been waiting for them to scream ’strong executive!’ ’strong executive!’

:)

My biggest worry is that Obama and the Democrats won’t acknowledge the nature of their mandate. In fact, I’m almost certain that they won’t…

i’m on the fence between support and tankng his ass.

Heh, But I was heartened to see them laying the foundation for Palin in ‘12… Clearly, they’re completely clueless in learning the reasons for their drubbing…!

I think that if Obama has a large enough mandate he can take his case directly to the people when the Rs start acting up. Seems to me the public is worried and won’t stand for any stupid stuff.

lolololololol

:0===>|

*splash back now included.

The chamber of commerce, MIC, & ATT are always right!

Agree. Tweety & other talking heads have crushes on Palin & completely ignore the fact that the country hates her.

the media will simply need to shift for that

I hope so.

“This is what the American people wanted. Get on board, or they will send you home.”

Yeah, the public won’t go for the stupid stuff, but the Rs will keep doing it and that will impede the process to a greater or lesser degree.

lol

/me been waiting to be sent home for the last eight years

On things lke health care.. he really could. I mean three million folks contributed cash to his campaign. No way a Harold and Louise campaign can compete with us.

I’m sure you’re right and they’ll get around to it (assuming they lose and lose big). but first, they need to have a little civil war, suppress their brownshirts (jihaddis) if they can, eat their young, etc etc. I know quite a few rethugs (in their corporatist faction). they’re very very angry, at the Joe the Plumber/Know Nothing Faction and, even more so, at the fundies. They want blood and revenge. ‘and being rethugs, that means unmitigated nastiness.

the stupid is so deep tho.

i talk to so many people that i would call an intellectual peer that does not pay attention to what is happening.

If he has confidence that he is doing what the American people want, he could be pretty powerful. Just look at Dubya. He had that confidence, even if it was completely misplaced.

Ike!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTXPiswDhbs

;)

I would love to see them so busy attacking each other and having their own civil war that they forget to attack Obama, but that’s probably too much to hope for.

You no like?

By transforming Obama into Karl Marx…

this kampaign is a konfluence of Karls. (Rove, Marx, Lagerfeld)

Obama will have to set the agenda from day one. The past two years have made it abundantly clear House and Senate leaders can’t find their asses with both hands. To Nancy and Harry, here’s a tip, just open your eyes, you’re already there.

Just a tad, Eli! Once Obama assumes the presidency they’ll be unified…! :-(

By transforming Obama into Karl Marx, the Republicans have transformed his victory into a victory for progressivism.

and as the economy continues to tank, that will be blamed on obama and progressives (as much as we support obama’s policies).

GOP is a sinned or trite nation.

Good points. Can’t wait for the civil war. 2008/9: The year of schadenfreude!

Dang I sure hope Forest ain’t kin to Eddie Feighnor, The King of The King And His Court!!! :eek:
(softballs equivalent to The Globetrotters) . . . . and a major attraction thruout the midwest and the world for three decades . . . . saw them ONCE, only, as a child. Still recall it all. The King pitching from second base. Calling in the others from the field (only played with three outfielders and a catcher). The equivalent of 100MPH fast ball, curves from rainbows, and lots of polish and pizzazz.

Forest ain’t FIT to walk this earth if he’s kin to The King! (spits) ;-)

Actually, they sent that to me, and I tore them a new one for using my name and such in the version they sent me.

DID NOT LIKE IT!!! Bad idea, bad marketing. Just PISS people off about their privacy, why doncha? And they did! *G* Then I blocked sender on my email. Harumph.

Talk radio will provide the drumbeat that gets them marching in lockstep again.

I’m seeing ads for Melissa Joan Hart (deposed Republican Rep) blaming everything that’s happened since 2006 on the Democratic Congress and her replacement.

On The News Hour today it was like a pre-election post-mortem. Bobo Brooks actually threw in the towel.

well.. I suspect that one rethug civil war faction will see an escalating arms race of vicious attacks on the Dems,as each faction tries to outdo each other in bile, bigotry and vitriol, but we’ve already seen how ineffective and discombobulated these attacks when they’re distracted by infighting and confused by having to simultaneously address and internal and external audience. so with luck they’ll just manage to harm their own party

Man, was just calling a certain part of the election a Catch-22 in a discussion with marcy earlier today. You, sir have some extra sensory perception!

I just saw a story somewhere about how the Republicans are arguing among themselves as to whether they need to be more conservative and pure, or more moderate and likable. So that’s kind of a companion conflict between the CEOcons/Theocons one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eouojc37lNw

Et Tu, Bobo…?

I barely have the sensory perception I need, much less extra.

Niewart’s been over at C&L these days. John Amato is going to take a break after Tuesday.

Which part would that be, bmaz?

I got a buck two fifty to say they do.
This is a lifetime event, they have to know it.
This is a huge doppler shift in power and control.

If they even BEGIN to legislate to further consolidate power and control and not to empower the masses, they’ll hear about it in ways no one has ever heard about it before.

But more importantly, they’ll lose Congress in both House and Senate in ‘10, and Obama will be a one term loser.

They MUST know they have to rebuild the middle and lower classes, to hold power for any extended amount of time. And they MUST know they have to revise HOW they govern, that trickle down didn’t, and that cost the pubs it all, over the long haul.

So Eli, I prefer Door #1 of your post, but to live with Door #2, we’ll have to beat them back with a fugly stick day after day . . . .

Either way, a progressive’s work is never done, is it . . .

he didn’t leave the GOP, it left him…

A familiar refrain from many conservatives…! ;-)

DKos diary

To vote for John McCain is to exercise the very worst of bad taste. Yes the man is a serial liar and a purveyor of scurrilities, smears, and libels. True he chose an imbecile for a running mate. Undeniably he has a face like a rotten pumpkin, bad teeth, a grating voice, and if left out in the rain doubtless smells of old wet dog. But that’s not why voting for him is in bad taste. The fact is that McCain is a deadly bore. There can be nothing more distasteful than to willfully inflict him on the world stage for the next four years.

Let’s hope that Obama’s strategy for governing is as effective as his strategy for getting elected. He has so far managed to hurdle every purportedly insurmountable obstacle in his path. I’m certain he knows as well as we do what to expect from the GOP and it’s minions.

I’m waiting for the day when the GOP leaves *everybody*.

but first, they need to have a little civil war

Oh, please let it be so! From your lips to God’s ear…

i r ninja!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jRJZWHyqy4

Ghost Of a Party

As opposed to “unitary executive”?

I have my doubts about what his policies will be, but I have no doubt that Obama will be intelligent, disciplined, and unflappable. I don’t see him making idiotic decisions based on pique or wishful thinking.

He’ll probably be something like Clinton without the adultery. Although he’s going to have a lot more to overcome than Clinton – we actually need FDR.

538

Is Pennsylvania John McCain’s last, best hope?

Perhaps it is. But that speaks as much to McCain’s problems elsewhere on the map as any success he has had in the Keystone State. …Nevertheless, with little progress being made elsewhere, McCain will take what he can get.

Indeed, unlike other recent days, there is no good news for McCain in the national tracking polls.

…

So given this morass, Pennsylvania seems to be the one thing that McCain has to hang his hat on. But he remains very unlikely to win it, and even if he does, Obama has any number of firewall states that could preserve a victory for him. McCain’s win percentage is down to 2.8 percent, his lowest number of the year.

Heh, but they’ll still haunt us…! ;-)

Limp ninja time!

I just have to keep on reminding myself that the Republicans are party of communalist thugs who, as a group, have somehow managed to skip the last several centuriesn of human moral evolution, certainly the Age of Enlightenment, and possibly the Reformation and Renaissance as well. Their cultural stuntedness varies by faction from “me bigger. use club to bash your head, take your food” to “beat the serfs!” to “burn the heretics!” to “Off with your head!”

IMO there will be NO Palins post this electin. The GOP core will be tossing her and Toddy under the goat led cart.

And they’ll be fighting to keep the Fundie’s from overrunning the GOP corporate core.

A splinter Fundie Party might evolve, in fact it’s likely to, but the GOP won’t let them in to the core much less run for the top two spots again. And the Palin’s will be doing time, so, that will slow things up. Huckabee? Romney? Nah, not larger than life enough, anymore, either of them.

If Obama et al does their jobs, a fractured GOP and splintered Fundie/NeoCon/Anglo Supremist parties will be marginalized even by Heartland’s Hesitant for a long, long time. Best case for the bad guys is Fundie small percent holds hands with the Supremist’s. That likely would equal, about what the Fundie’s are pre Palin and this election. And Not viable politically with a GOP core beating on them.

Hey, I can dream, can’t I . . . *G*

Barnes: “It’s like Humphrey in ‘68, Mort. If McCain had about 2 more weeks, he could have won this thing.”

Hannity: “Under the circumstances, Obama should have won by 63 points. That it was as close as it was shows alot of people have alot of reservations about Barack Obama and his shady past.”

Chorus: No Mandate1!!!

Grand Ole Perv

Yep. GOP core gonna purge themselves some hoods, robes and bibles. Glad I’m not alone thinking that. *G*

wtf :/

BFL, did you take a looong shower after departing Faux Spew…? ;-)

One of the things I am informally predicting is that if the Democrats don’t pick up 60 seats in the Senate, the GOP and media will say that the center-right American people rejected them.

Groping Old Perverts

Anyone have the link for bush-chimpy? Can’t find it on google.

God’s
On the phone,
Pissed

I could see Romney coming back in 2012, especially if they can shove the fundies back in the box (*big* if). I don’t think any of the other Republicans who ran this year would be at all viable.

Unless the theocons win the civil war, in which case it could very well be Huckabee and/or Palin. Not sure whether that frightens or delights me.

And we can say, they rejected “moderates”.

McOld has had 74 years. What tripe!!

I’ve been trying to figure out which character from Catch-22 best symbolizes John McCain. I’m leaning toward Colonel Cathcart. From Wikipedia:

A full colonel, Cathcart is a group commander at the U.S. Army Air Corps base in Pianosa and is obsessed with becoming a general. As such, he does whatever it takes to please his superiors—in particular, by repeatedly raising the number of missions the men have to fly to complete a tour of duty-

Not an exact match but close enough. McCain desperately wants to be commander in chief so he can outrank his father and grandfather. He’ll do ANYTHING to please people who can help him attain his goal. Where Cathcart repeatedly raised the requisite number of missions, McCain keeps raising the bar regarding what constitutes “victory” in Iraq with the result that we can never leave.

lol, ninja rule!

i r ninja! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jRJZWHyqy4

Regulation, Fairness Doctrine.

More investment in the likes of progressive radio that CAN drive a few ad dollars that will be still exist.
Lowered ad revenues too, for perceived whackaloon Rush Radio, will limit hate radio harshly in the next few years.
Radio as we know it is a dying dinosaur . . . there’s also that to consider.

Although, with the advent of the digital TV laws coming in ‘09, there will be new channels.
Wonder if they can find ad dollars or funding for niche hate TV?

lmao! prize!

welcome to my nightmares.

but it doesn’t surprise me. something we have to be prepared for though. and while i know it pisses people off – if obama is getting racked over the coals by progressives, it will make it much harder for the right’s accusations of “socialist” to stick to obama – and will leave him with more political space to act, should he care to use it.

:0===|

max headroom redux.

McFlap

from fiction? Steerpike from Ghormenghast comes to mind. Or any number of Dickensian villains.

i have dreams of fallng outta a b-17 :(

My biggest worry is that Obama and the Democrats won’t acknowledge the nature of their mandate. In fact, I’m almost certain that they won’t…

whoa – not fair. just look at what the dems did with their 2006 mandate to end the iraq war. uh, nevermind.

It’s always a bit jarring when the Republicans act like centrist Democrats are to the left of Che Guevara.

The Clintons, f’rinstance.

I just asked a girl at my door, are you a ninja? Her princess friend, A Dead Ninja.

Urinary. Urinary, Executive. ;-)

Pissed us ALL off!!! *G*

I’ve noticed that McCain and Palin appear to be joined at the hip with their respective spouses. When Sarah is introduced, Todd actually walks onstage ahead of her (WTF?). I think it speaks well of the Obama’s marriage that Barack has enough confidence in Michelle to have her campaigning in a different state.

It is the reaction the actual policy that worries me more

It was in relation to my efforts to get Obama to come to Arizona for a last minute rally in Phoenix. Basically the Obama chiefs Axelrod and Plouffe would not listen to my plea until they saw the polls were close in Arizona, but by the time they caught on to the fact they were close, it was really too late to schedule the appearance. Catch-22.

Hey, Rat.
We know who wears the high heels and that family.

With John McCain as the pilot? Probably best if everyone bails.

a dead ninja is righteous

hah! astute analysis!

Palin will be imprisoned, or banished. *G*
Would I lie to you? LOL

of* :P

But, larue…

Republican VP nominee Palin eyeing 2012: report…

Win or Lose, Many See Palin as Future of Party…

and…

Palin’s future causes Republican rift…

Ouch! Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve…! ;-)

Make up rules on Halloween.
With the adults, like at work or on the boulevards, Halloween brings out each of our Ru Paul. :)

I just can’t help but wonder if (heaven forbid) Sarah becomes Vice President, will Todd be attending every meeting with her? There is something about the pair of them (apart from the lying and ignorance) that really creeps me out.

Ru is cool, whats to say.

Mindless babble CT, ignore the rage behind the curtain. It’s only a hungry marmot. *G*

What’s happening? You going to be able to stay in your residence, or is moving inevitable? *Hoping for the best for you.*

They are a frightening pair. And, you just know he’ll get to see and hear just everything.

The Rs really can’t be that stupid. Imagine starting off a prez campaign with a candidate that about 60% of the country thinks is a dumb as an ox. Laughable – for us.

Word.

tw3k ygm

Still some hope, but, it’s rapidly diminishing…! :-(

anyway, just listening to bloomberg news… all of this may not matter cause we’ll all be dead. apparently, beginning a few days ago shrub has quietly shredding federal regulations, cancelling, so far, over 250 key protections… including food safety, worker protection, air quality, healthcare, air travel safety, environmental protection, mine safety, oil and coal industry regs, and even anti terror provisions on things like port/freight safety. Before he’s all done, we’ll all be inhaling sulfuric air while choking on plastic-filled food served on lead plates.

heh, ru let me into the milk bar when it opened in philly, what can i say ;)

art!?

So sorry.

yes

then i’m still hoping too.

The consensus among the GOP leadership will be that Palin (more than any other single factor in an abominably run campaign) not only sank their chance of retaining the Executive Branch, but dragged down there numbers in the Legislative Branch as well. She’d have an uphill battle for sure.

via 538.com comments:

John Cleese on Countdown:

If Rove were a Democrat, we’d be seeing ads telling us how McCain palled around with Communists for 5 years as a young man, and they even paid for his food and lodgings. Can we really trust him?

Norquist on acid.

Just wait til Cheney works over foreign policy after the election.

yeah, I’m still holding my cards :/

I’ll try to visit when I can…! But, I’ll be out of commission for awhile…!

It’s a completely silly idea, but I sure wouldn’t mind if they made her the scapemoose.

(((CT and Ms. CT)))

ninja! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jRJZWHyqy4

Great Moyers, as usual. Kath. Hall Jamison and Loury; Common Cause and Jill Claybrook (I think) all analyses of the race and what may lie ahead. Moyers gives me hope and I always love his backward review of Johnson, JKF, etc. He certainly has a long view.

/me gives CT++ luv

He’s been her handler all along. He’s the one who groomed her for office, so they could profit business wise.

They will both be history post election. Either imprisoned, or banished.

I’ll try and not say it again tonight . . . . the GOP are gonna ruinate them. As a message to the fundie’s.

It’s a civil war. It’s just begun. And the neocon’s are trying to find a side to be on, or hide out in the woods till the bleeding is over. *G*

We are poised upon a historical precipe of unprecedented proportions.
Change is in the air.

I only wish some folks would be a ray of sunshine, instead of doing chicken little and calling wolf.

Let’s finish the election, and get on with this. This is HISTORICAL in the annuals of mankind.

We could reshape and further the way humans look at rights and civil law for generations.

Get the man elected, and then we hold feet to fire.

But the OPPURTUNITY? The one if front of us as a country, as humans?

Bigger than anything ever. Cuz if it fails, down goes civil rights, free speech, the amendments, and likely the constitution. And that will blacken the planet.

If this comes out HALF assed good, we will be shining a light on a standard equivalent to what the Magna Carta shone it its time.

People, this is epic. No time for gloom. Get to work. This makes the 60’s look tame.

Spread the sunshine, and hold people accountable.

And to all, Happy Hallow’s Eve.

Gotta be a scary one for the GOP, and hooded haters. *G*

Thanks Eli for all you do, and this thread . . . .

OT – for something i bet will be appropriately scary for halloween…. chuch schumer and david brooks are scheduled to be on charlie rose tonight.

Very best wishes CT for you and your family!

I’ve tried but failed to discern from previous comments the nature of your quandary. Best wishes for a successful resolution, whatever it is.

Don’t be gone long. I am so sorry for the struggle, and we need to keep up with you. BL

Oh, I think K. J. Hall is the bomb. So smart lady!!
I’ll have to catch the replay this w/e.

As all of his executive signings, easily undone by Obama in the first 100 days.

DON’T PANIC!!!!! lol

Where’s phreakin Norske . . . I need a NorskeFlame shot . . *G*

I think she is too; no foolishness there. I have really liked her from the first.

Before he’s all done, we’ll all be inhaling sulfuric air while choking on plastic-filled food served on lead plates.

Awww, cut him some slack.

He’s just trying to make sure the ‘one of’ gets eliminated before ‘worst president(s) ever.

what’s it called when a sitting president abuses executive powers that he should never been allowed to arrogate anyway, to essentially sow fear and uncertainty, sabotage the country, trash the institutions of government and intentionally harm the people? Obama needs to call for impeachment the moment he’s elected, IMO. shrub now apparently poses a clear and present danger to the country every minute he remains in office. this is unbelievable

It’s kinda sad, in a pathetic sort of way, how many liberals cling to rationality when prognosticating. What? Authoritarians can’t hold two opposing view points simultaneously without bursting? Repugs won’t forget they called Obama socialist and change the conversation? Right wingnuts don’t suffer cognitive dissonance? Libs won’t be crying in their milk that the MSM doesn’t point out the obvious discrepancies? Bloggers won’t be hailed as soothsayers?

Once again, ya’ll prove to be the bestest on the toobz…! No finer gathering of individuals can be found…! *g*

Assuming Obama wins, and the Democrats consolidate Congress, the risk and opportunity is huge. This is the Democrats’ chance to show that they can (once again) clean up the Republicans’ messes and be the responsible party that fixes things.

Or they can be the ones holding the bag as it all falls apart.

I’m hoping they can pull off the former, but if not, they need to be able to effectively remind everyone *why* it’s all falling apart.

Bush wants to leave a real mess for Obama. Apparently our rockets killed 27 people in Pakistan today. Nice going, W.

Okay, spooks, ghouls and goblins…carry on.
The “wallets” home and taking me out to dinner.
I’ll leave the big basket of treats on the front porch for you to munch on.
Should I still leave the dog in my bedroom? What to do.

Does anyone know what David Brooks’s Jewish name was before it was changed to Brooks?

Dear God….I had not heard. Probably gave W another huge thrill; he likes that killing sort of thing..sick sick. Has he no shame? I know.

Sir, yes sir!

And now, gotta go . . . thanks for all Eli.

A t-shirt/poster suggestion: Barack Obama as Che Guevara.

Che Obama.

chez

Best wishes CT. You know all thoughts and prayers here will be with you and your family.

Best wishes, CT. You’re such a treasured member of this family; we all look forward to your return. Some time, when things are looking kinda grim, try pasting a smile on your face for as long as you can stand it, and no matter how much you may not want to. You’ll have at least a few moments of feeling that your load’s been lightened a bit. You may even feel a bit silly. But you will feel better for a few moments.

the demise of american exceptionalism Saying essentially the same thing, in a different way.

I like your art, if that’s your art.
Either way…