Christy!

Digg this for Christy!

It is amazing how McCain keeps pulling things from the past….. and not the recent past…… even before I was born…..

BTW test went well and now waiting results……

AND have you voted yet? ….. I have….

but when it suits his convenience McInsane also ignores the past…such as the fact that his hero, Teddy Roosevelt, brought us socialism the progressive income tax…

McFlailin’s antics look like flop sweat from here.

But for the joy of thought and language: Obama speaking right now. “When did selfishness become a virtue?”

Wow, Christy, he just gets crazier every day. From your “torture approval” link:

McCain said that while he remains opposed to waterboarding, “We always supported allowing the CIA to use extra measures.”

Extra measures? Then what are rules for?

So now he wants measures that are extra-ier?

Aloha, LL!

Dugg, thanks for the link.

Thanks Christy.

Juck Mohn FcCain.

That’s just what we need, every academic doing field research being suspected as a spy and every business executive…wait wasn’t that Valerie Plame’s cover? “why exactly should we trust them to protect us from anything, especially from themselves?”

Speaking of Ahmad Chalabi… He’s Back…!

Chalabi’s Star Rises Again with Iranian Intrigues in Baghdad

Sidney.
don’t know why, but I’m also annoyed when anyone misspells Michele Bachmann.

Perhaps, since john knows where and how to capture Osama when he becomes president… he should suspend his campaign and go get him now.

Of course. In Bush’s World, there’s no such thing as being too contemptible.

This is a sad saga on Torture…

CIA Can Hide Torture Allegations, Court Rules

The CIA can hide statements from imprisoned suspected terrorists that the agency tortured them in its set of secret prisons, a federal judge ruled Wednesday,

Chief Judge Royce Lamberth of the Washington D.C. Circuit Court declined to review the government’s assertions that the allegations of torture from men held in the CIA’s black site prisons — whether truthful or not — would put the nation at risk of grave danger if allowed to be made public.

“The Court, giving deference to the agency’s detailed, good-faith declaration, is disinclined to
second-guess the agency in its area of expertise through in camera review,” Lamberth wrote (.pdf), referring to a procedure where a judge looks at evidence in his chamber without showing it to the opposing side.

Good faith…? WTF?

Aloha CT!

Hi Christy!

If We get the Vote out on Tuesday, We’ll Win.

3 days and a Wake Up…

and a “League of Democracies”
Buddha on a cracker with red sauce.
The 1960’s happened a while ago. somebody alert McCain.

Part of what McCain is doing these days is providing racists with a plethora of alibis as cover for the actual reason they’d never vote for Obama. Another part is scorched Earth politics, insuring that when Obama becomes president a segment of the population remains so angry and fearful that they continue to smear and slander him, making it less likely that the country can be united or solve problems under Democratic leadership.

I am so jazzed for Tuesday. I’ll stand on line for as long as it takes!

Aw geez. That’s ridiculous. Let’s hope it gets overturned.

Goodnight, pups.

Make that 4 Days and a Wake-Up!

For the Republicans in the Audience, that would be 5 Days and a Wake-Up!

Aloha, Jim!

From The Republican Dictionary:

Lamberth, Royce (n.) Satan’s cabana boy.

Combine McCain’s resurgent OSS with a new RASTAPO – Redneck American Secret State Police with 9PM to 7AM curfews for extra security.

McCain to appear on SNL one more time.

isn’t the nation tired of looking at this dude’s mug?

(((katymine))) fingers crossed!

Maybe this time somebody will think he’s hip.

(((katymine)))

sending out positive energy to you

Further proof that John McCain has never had an original idea in his life and has not had any ideas since 1949.

OT: IMHO, Barack Obama will be elected on Nov. 4. That said, for me, the comment of the evening was: “You’re crusin’ for a brusin’ Rachel.” http://www.google.com/search?q…..=firefox-a

Nah, they’ll just think that Bozo lost his hair.

Local forecast for the Dee Cee metroplex on Tuesday says sunny and in the 60’s. No excuses, people…GOTV.

I heard a part of Bill O this evening. He is so pissed that McInsane did not accept his invitation for a 30 min. conversation….I do not know why Mc Couldn’t go. What I thought it may be is that Bill O does not let anyone finish a sentence….all the while saying something like he is the most popular talk show host….Maybe he should hear a different point of view.

Why’d you stop at 1949? Why not since his conception…? ;-)

I was being kind.

The problem with McBatshit crazy and his kind is that force and weapons are the solution for everything.

Oh, and it must be officially over now.

Even John King on CNN has put the kool-aid down.

I don’t care what the issue is (of the many our country is facing), McCain simply scares the bejesus out of me.

He’s more of a whack job than Palin. He’s had a hopefully expansive education and experiences that should have prepared him for this job. She hasn’t.

She’s manipulative but so dumb I can’t take her very seriously. McCain though, there’s some really disquieting pathology going on there.

McCain…wants to use the OSS, the CIA’s predecessor, as the model for a modern-day agency for covert action, psychological warfare, and paramilitary operations.

I wonder what he thinks they could do that is somehow beyond the CIA Directorate of Operations, the Navy SEALS, and the Delta Force?

ohh.. it’s just too much .. as if the clannish secretive rogues of terrorism would just let anyone walk in the door and join the “group” .. sheeit .. it’d take years and years of vetting ..

this is the stuff of pure spy novel fantasy and has no connection to the real world ..

i can see the idea of interdicting and even wiping out known cells if they can be located .. provided one doesn’t get the adress wrong ..and sure as hell .. mistakes will happen .. identities will get confused ..and just as in the rendition program .. the wrong folks will get caught up in it and persecuted ..tortured .. killed ..sooooo

no john .. hell no .. moderation in all things .. william donovan you ain’t ..

It’s funny though, because McCain is a crazy old coot…isn’t that supposed to be Bill-O’s demographic?

hey loudon!!! long time no see

Imagine how bad your juju is among the Goopers if you turn down Billo…

McCain’s already got the Billo Viewers locked up. He’s on to SNL for the “kids” (McCain air quotes). Seth Meyers may blindside “Old Crypty”. I think Seth is one of us.

The whole thing sounds more like a James Bond movie. I guess McC considers himself the hero.

Hey wobbs! Been lurkin’ *g*

i need to do that *g*

Today’s intelligence agencies with their rendition flights, torture approval, black site holding cells and no holds barred stylings are just too timid for the macho-posturing, neo-muscular policy of McCain and the swaggering stylings of his neocon coterie.

Everyone needs to understand that John McCain is not anti-torture. On the contrary, McCain’s Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 reinstated the “Nuremberg defense” for American torturers:

Protection of United States Government Personnel- In any civil action or criminal prosecution against an officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent of the United States Government who is a United States person, arising out of the officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent’s engaging in specific operational practices, that involve detention and interrogation of aliens who the President or his designees have determined are believed to be engaged in or associated with international terrorist activity that poses a serious, continuing threat to the United States, its interests, or its allies, and that were officially authorized and determined to be lawful at the time that they were conducted, it shall be a defense that such officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent did not know that the practices were unlawful and a person of ordinary sense and understanding would not know the practices were unlawful. Good faith reliance on advice of counsel should be an important factor, among others, to consider in assessing whether a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the practices to be unlawful.

All the torturers need to do is to cite John Yoo’s memos. “I was acting on good faith on …”

Nah, don’t lurk — your voice is important here, and I enjoy your comments :-)

The work schedule keeps me away from here more than I like, but lately I’ve been dipping a toe back in when I can. I’ve been commenting a bit at Oxdown (hi newton!) but mostly hanging back and just reading.

Why do they continually call this guy a ‘plumber’, when he doesn’t even have a plumber’s license?

Plumbers everywhere should be pissed!

And, speaking of Sam the (non)plumber, I hope everyone got a chance to see the hilarious moment when he stood up McGramps at an appearance today.

The cootie gras was when, after calling for him and it became clear he wasn’t there, he shouts “Well, you’re all Joe the Plumber!”

Huh? WTF was that?

Hey LL!
That place is a blast!

On top of everything else I knew about John McCain and did not like before this campaign, he’s convinced me that he’s dim. I mean, Iowa? Maine? Did he decide on his own to spend his last precious ten days there? Or was he convinced?

Dim vs. cool

C’mon, America. It’s not close.

Yes indeed! It’s been so great to see all of the pups’ diaries :-) We are blessed with some extremely smart people!

It really is beyond me why anyone would want to talk to Bill O or Sean, or come to think of it, Laura Ing., or Rush, or Ann, etc etc. Thankfully, I am so out of that Clique I really do not know the players. Why does anyone make a phone call to be abused….maybe some dominatrix thing explains the right wing cult…take Laura B. or Barbara or Mrs. Craig or Lynn Cheney. What a weird dynamic.

miss your comments *g* so i’m glad your back (even if its is just to dip a toe)

Margot has a diary over at Oxdown!
Ain’t no line too damn long

(McCain’s creepy air quotes)

Fixed it. (No charge)

I tried to edumicate some lesser-informed people at work the other day about Joe-who-is-not-really-a-full-fledged-plumber. My fire officer, to his credit, immediately hit teh Google to find out more.

wow, i take token to save a tree and come back to find margot front paged at the lake! woohoo

((( wobbs ))) Thank you :-)

wobblybits–

I have a question for you. A relative of mine has applied for a job teaching English in Sao Paolo. Would you be willing to chat with her about things Brazilian? If so please e-mail me at my screenname on A-O-L. Thanks.

CIA Director George Tenet…”We do not torture”. Hey judge you are bought and paid for along with over 52% of the federal bench that is repukes. Who only decide against their political enemies.

It wasn’t to difficult to see the writing on the wall with the exposure of the outsoursed intel info in spies for hire or Sybel Edmonds conclusions(I wonder what we’ll discover if the gag order is removed).The AQ Kahn ties,the riggs bank and bcci info,the Safari club etc have all evolved into the corporate sphere and are going to be tough to keep track of.this all just scares the hell out of me.Renegade corporate spies and global corporate wars

sure. huge demand for teaching english there. i will email you

thanks!

I got ‘workforce reduced’ today. Yeah, that’s right…let go, laid off, fired, terminated. Oh well, there are worse things that could happen. Guess that gives me a little more time at the lake. I hear some of you groaning. :) Now, I can really appreciate Obama’s speeches that I’ve been listening to all these months, and Senator Clinton’s “Jobs, baby, jobs.”

I’m going to take a much-needed break. I’m gonna breathe and take my time finding a job/career in an industry that excites me and doesn’t compromise my principals. If I stick to those two criteria, I have a feeling I may be taking quite a long break.

Seven other employees (small company) were ‘let go’ today. Others had ‘resigned’ over the last couple of months. The remainders were crying for us. I told them not to worry about me. They have to stay and pick up the slack. And it looks like the axe’s work may not be finished. That made me sad. It’s ugly out there right now.

dayam, i’m so sorry

sucks.
chin up

i stuck to my guns about selling the cottage, had faith that i would in fact find what i needed, and it did work out well – but it was 18 months of hell until it did.

Thanks, Suzanne. I’m a survivor. One of my co-workers who had been there for several years longer than I has 3 small children. He’s younger than I am, and is very smart, strong and healthy. I hope that is a benefit to him and his family.

Yup. And face to the sun.

I remember you talking about that. Toughness has it’s benefits.

some call it being dayam stubborn :)

been accused of that myself. Pig-headed and downright mean sometimes, too. My positives outweigh my negatives though…so I got that going for me which is nice. :)

Going to bed so I can be the first in line at the unemployment office tomorrow.

BTW, voted early yesterday. Even in Obama’s home state, there was a 45 minute wait. Historic? You betcha!

Pat Lang wrote this in 2004 about Chalabi

http://turcopolier.typepad.com…..l_aid3.pdf

“The Information Collection Program”
Early in the Bush 43 Administration, actions began that clearly reflected a predisposition to place regime change in Iraq at the top of the foreign policy agenda. Sometime in January 2001, the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the opposition group headed by Dr. Ahmed Chalabi, began receiving U.S. State Department funds to begin an effort called the “Information Collection Program.” Under the Clinton Administration, some money had been given to Iraqi exiles for what might be called agit-prop activities against Saddam’s government but the INC (Chalabi) had not been taken very seriously because they had a bad reputation for spending money freely, with very little to show for it. The CIA had concluded that he and his INC colleagues were not to be trusted with taxpayer’s money. Nevertheless, Chalabi had longstanding ties to a group of well-established anti-Saddam American activists who were installed by the Bush Administration as leading figures of the politically appointed civilian bureaucracy in the Pentagon and in the Office of the Vice President.
Those ties paid off. The “Information Collection Program,” launched in the early months of the Bush Administration, was aimed at providing funds to the INC for recruiting defectors from Saddam’s military and secret police,
5

OSS was terminated in the early fall of 1945 by Harry Truman. Part of it went to State, becoming the base for the Research and Analysis Division, another part went to Army Signals Corps, eventually becoming the base for NSA, and yet another part remained in the Army Intelligence, eventually becoming the root of DIA.

During WWII the initials OSS were considered a nickname for an outfit called “OH SO SOCIAL” a nickname that reflected the fact that many members were Yale History and Literature Majors — with a few language students and geographers thrown in for good measure. They did a decent job of it in London and Washington DC, applying various academic tools to wartime problems, but they were really a complete flop at the spy business behind enemy lines. The young French Majors did get to go behind the lines — the Jedburgs were teams of OSS, technical types such as radio operators, dropped to the French Underground mostly in the South of France, with the mission of connecting them and the French Sabatoge up with the requirements of the invasions, D-Day and then in the South of France. That was about the only time OSS went behind the lines, and it was medium successful. McCain sure hasn’t read much of the history available in say the last 25 years based on the actual record of what OSS did well and not so well. Some of OSS’s best work was breaking code — done with quite primative card sort machines, and mostly done in and around DC. Yea, it was really risky sorting all those punch cards.

McCain should read Tim Weiner’s Legacy of Ashes, a history of the CIA and OSS. McCain seems to think all those covert missions were successful, but the reality is quite different. Most of them were failures and the number of agents and contacts that were compromised and later liquidated is quite large. The problem with McCain is he has been listening to the Idiot Wind promulgated by the self-serving CIA which has kept most of the details shielded from the public.