Aloha, ES! ;-)

ES, I responded to your comment at M&C! *g*

Eureka!
It’s peculiar being post-boomer.
Eternal vigilance, and all that.

Evening, CT. Thanks

You got a year on me, ES, and I was born a furriner… Canada! Does that still count…? ;-)

It’s odd looking at it from the tail end of Gen X, but this is our first time in the presidential spotlight too. There’s a lot i owe to the DFH and the Civil Rights movements of that age though, and i’ll never forget it. *grin*

Hey hey Eureka, hey pups.

ES, on the topic of Like A Rolling Stone — I just re-read Greil Marcus’ book on the making of that song. Good stuff.

Remember when John McCain was so insistent that we leave Somalia back in the 90’s? That’s worked out real well!

Isn’t it though? Post boom by a year.. and definitely not a gen xer.

LL, so nice to see you.

Holy Cow, ES, you’ve hit it right on the head. What did happen to that ball? Did we drop it or was it snatched, Lucy-like, from right under our trusting eyes? Our hopes assassinated every few years, the venality of Nixon and Colson and crew in our faces 24/7, much like Clinton’s penis the next time we had a chance. Sigh. My expectations are sure to be dashed no matter what, but it sure will feel good to finally crush the party of Nixon just once, just for a moment. I’m going to be wearing pointy heels.

Wonderful to see you too, ES! :-)

Aloha, LL! How’s Virginny looking these days? :D

1977 for me. So definite tail end of Gen X. Old enough to remember a lot of the leftover crap that hadn’t quite been shed during the 80s and be annoyed by it.

Republicans run torturer as Congressional candidate

It takes Johann Hari in the British newspaper the Independent to inform us that the Republicans are running a know torturer for Congress in Florida. Col. Allen West took Iraqi Yehiya Hamoodi and threatened to kill him, a clear unambiguous violation of the Convention Against Torture. When Hamoodi did not give up the information he was believed to have, West again threatened to kill him and shot a pistol a foot from his head. For torture, West was fined $5,000. Now he’s running for Congress

Boomers are a strange bunch. Fact is though, most weren’t all that politically active. At least the ones that I know. Then again, I do know mostly Republican boomers.

Aloha CT! Old Virginny is looking mighty blue these days, I’m happy to say *g*

I’m going to be wearing pointy heels.

LOL! I was thinking about putting a daisy in my shotgun. Or taking daisies to a few rich cynical has been hippies and begging them to do the right thing.

Jeebus, ES.
The frat party widens.

My wife and I broke out lighters when Mick and the Boyz broke out with ‘Like a Rolling Stone’ in Aloha Stadium in ‘97 or ‘98, Alzheimers, ya know…! ;-)

I don’t do heels, but i do have some fine combat boots that i’ve lovingly kept in good condition. :D

Just tell them to look on the bright side. Soon they’ll have mountains of new books, videos, and WorldNutDaily articles detailing in depth the vast left wing conspiracy, the antichrist, and how the American military is killing U.S. citizens within our borders. It’ll be the Clinton years on steroids for the far right.

No shame, not even pretense.

to the Hague

The new black. /s

No war…no war…no war no way. Pre emptive shit is Imperialism. Straight up if you don’t want other peoples to mess with you leave them alone. Uncle Sam is trying to be the world’s Big Brother over 270 military bases. The sphere of influence is global as is corporate globalization. If it’s to big to fail it’s to big.
Our stock markets are creating havoc because they are global. We crashed the world equity markets. We need to get the house in order. Can we help BO do that… with a lot of bloomin luck.

Hannibal, I’ve been wondering whether the Obama years will bring us a redux of the Clinton era. And hoping (with a possible Dem majority in Congress) that we can keep that at bay…

Heh, it’s a toss-up, stiletto or a maul, eh? Either way, as long as they’re underfoot…! ;-)

ES – graduated from HS in 65.

I’m frustrated that I’m finally effective in politics now that I’m approaching 62. But I have a lot to share with young people, and I know how to talk to them, listen to them, energize them. I want to dedicate a lot of time over the next six years helping organize young people around Wasilla Alaska, around progressive ideals. Even though I’m a Democrat, I hope to help draw them into any party they choose, but to gather together young people once a month, to compare notes, look for new ideas.

I know one thing, we as a nation would have never made it this far without you. With that in mind, It occurs to me these days, this election may be your generations last call. Will you successfully beat back the party of Nixon this time?

Dam Es ya trying to kill us OFF early?? I plan to hang around for a while longer if ya don’t mind too much!!
Oh and to show you I don’t hold grudges I Dugg your Post!!

High School Musical 3 audience “accidentally” exposed to porn, parents express feigned outrage.

I also don’t think the media has really encapsulated and shown and narrated just how fucking out of their minds, loopy and fruity and unhinged many of the McCain/Republican base appear to be when shown on V and Youtube and the such.

It’s a freak show of venom, bile, ignorance and hatred all wrapped up in jingoism, provinicalism, arrogance, know nothingism and racism.

Quite the unseemly lot.

-G

Virginia is for Lovers!

Sure, go ahead and corrupt all those young impressionable minds like Dr. Dick…! Have you no shame…? ;-)

Edit to me at 26 — yeah I know, we have a Dem majority now, and I’m hoping we hang on to it — by all accounts, it looks like we will do. Tired public servant, here!

Yeah man! And Virginia is for Barack :-)

You do it so well, Phillip. You inspire me from afar, amigo. I can only imagine how much you do for folks in person.

It’s really a call to arms… especially during this last week of the election season (assuming all goes well) that I hope to see from the old schoolers.

I’m calling NH for Obama tonight.

A ride through a handful of small Yankee towns today indicates a strong Obama yard sign presence.

Even in my GOP-er town, there’s lots of Obama stuff, when it isn’t stolen.

The Democrats will hold the 2 congressional seats and pick-up the Senate seat too.

-G

Even in the ‘Real’ Virginia…? ;-)

A lot of work ahead. We are going to have to make him do it. But first we have to seal the deal.

Here Here ET I am also looking at 62 next year and graduated in 65… the next summer I was in the Army now and the rest is now history!! Oh and when I got out I went straight to Woodstock!! I knew I was out of the Army by the end of that Weekend and was now a DFH!

Isn’t Shays the sole Repug Rep left in all of New England?

This is the military civilian indoctrination before occupation and attack you demonize the enemy…that is exactly what McFukhead is doing. That is inciting riot for which they should be jailed. Words like gook…raghead etc Today one of my repuke businass associates sent a cartoon of Obama with his face covered with a plummers helper. Caption Obama meet Joe Plumber. These peeps are hardened, he also does a lot of fem bashing. A proud Knights of Columbus a catholic order from AZ. Stop boiling blood.

WIll Shays win this year?

You go ET. What a great and noble plan. I applaud you with wholehearted appreciation.

yep there was a piece on him on Tweeties show tonight… last of a dying breed “Moderate Rethuglian” they are either total Wingnut Neocons or Wingnut born again RethugliansWho want to rule your life and tell you how to BELIEVE!!

I have thought for a long time that the democratic party lost many of the people who would have been their leaders now and over the past few years. Lost to drug busts, police shootings, bullshit incarcerations during the sixties. And I wonder if it was deliberately done.

Thanks for giving us boomers a nod. We’ve gotten nothing but blame since we turned 18. I am ashamed that Bush is of our generation, and that as an enormous group we do not seem to have moved this country forward as we dreamed we could. I will credit us with starting up the environmental movement (I remember the first Earth Day), lead by a few wise elders who sounded the alarm. People’s Park was nice too. A powerful moment.

Growing up, the “buzz cut” (just out of WWII) was the standard for boys and we children were required to wear “dog tags” with our names and addresses on them, in case we were incinerated in a nuclear blast sent our way. Regimentation left over from WWII was the standard, and the young people a few years ahead of us, (Mario Savio and the Free Speech Movement, Allan Ginsberg) electrified us and opened our eyes. The “one man, one vote” movement, and watching decent black people being crucified by trying to claim the rights due them marked us deeply. It was wonderful to walk down Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley and see some man wearing a purple velvet suit! Free at last! In the “Days of Crisis” during the Cambodian invasion, at the universities we first established live, over the phone connections with other university activists, to co-ordinate sit-ins and protests. An early, easily broken forerunner to these wonderful blogs.

Clinton wasn’t bad, but certainly had an eye out for interests we had largely rejected earlier. Of course our “peace & love” could never have come to be as we dreamed possible, but the murders of JFK, King and RFK took the head and heart from that movement. Nixon’s policies brought us, as young people, out into a world where the going was tough – people forget that he instigated wage and price controls. It reminds me somewhat of today’s restricted opportunities for young people. We had to look out for ourselves. Such is life. Sorry this post is so long for this long-time but money-contributing lurker, but your post, ES, really struck a chord with me in this emotional time before yet another change. Boy, am I ready for it. Peace and love, everybody.

CT, hellz yeah — even out here in the hinterlands, I’ve been seeing a lot of Obama yard signs and bumperstickers. I think that Commie Northern Virginia will really make a difference!

Last New Englander GOP-er in the House. The Senate still has the Collins/Snowe in Maine and Sununu/Gregg in NH. In VT, Jeffords jumped and retired in 2004. In RI, Chafee was voted out in 2006.

VT/CT/RI have GOP-er Governors.

-G

I think that most of the boomers got caught up in the home in the suburbs, raising a family, jobs, all of that. Also the 70s got increasingly nasty economically. The inflation caused by what we had just called “the War” came home by then. The 60s had been generally a booming time economically.

Nixon did win. The first major manipulation of “the culture wars” by the Republicans went all their way.

You young kids take up Gaia’s challenge. And let’s hope we beat the culture war fear-fare being slung this year.

I was pretty damn exhausted by the time 1968 rolled around, and I was only 15. I had gotten used to duck-and-cover drills in school, had to learn New Math and couldn’t do Old Math properly, had to pass President Kennedy’s physical fitness challenge, had to mourn him when he was assassinated, and Martin Luther King Jr., and watch night after night of civil rights protests, anti-war protests, film of soldiers fighting and dying in Vietnam, friends getting drafted, ODing, etc.
Then there was marching in protests, getting the right to wear black armbands at school…
I don’t think we dropped the ball.

It is so important that people who have lived and seen and experienced life share their wisdom with others. It is time that Americans appreciate knowledge and wisdom.

By the way, Limbaugh was correct.

John McCain is destroying the Republican Party.

-G

Yep produced with Madison Avenue techniques. They hire some of the biggest ad firms in the world and they are ruthless as any profession.

Yikes, it’s late out here in EDT-ville. Thank you, ES, and I’ll try not to be too much of a stranger here, work schedule permitting.

G’night firedogs, and keep on fightin’!

I think you have got something there…..

nite LL

Hmmm, well, although many of us backed away from overt political activism, we continued to pursue progressive change in other arenas. Looking at America as it was in 1968 as compared to today, in terms of race, sexism, sexual identity, challenged individuals rights, environmentalism and on and on, one can see the ball has been moved forward some distance.

Politics was not at the vanguard of these changes; but, reluctantly followed. Generally speaking, that is how things have always worked in this country. That is why, at almost any given moment in politics it look like progressives are losing, but over the fullness of time usually the opposite is true.

thanks for the post, heartfelt is well respected and appreciated, as is wisdom and experience….

Well said itwasntme.. I guess we DID contribute a lot to the betterment of our country and then they elected Ronnie Raygun and it started to all fall apart as the rethuglians dismantled all the checks and balances and started the class warfare against the middle class,which we obviously lost the battle to the rich! They are now earning the loin’s share of the GDP and the trickle down economics didn’t trickle!! If anything the trickle went upstream!!

It’s Jesusmania ‘08!!!! More zealotry, more hypocrisy, more people spastically babbling incoherently, more fear for teh gay than ever before! Get your tickets now now now!

I went and cheered Hillary on this week. She was in Manchester stumping for NH Democrats and Obama.

She was great.

-G

So McCain does have at least one redeeming virtue then!

What’s so funny ’bout peace, love and understanding? …

Hey, I found out recently here at the Lake that I’m not a boomer, I’m a Jonesie. Right smack dab between the boomers and x’ers, I think. On the cusp of the feminist movement too. not that the guys in my family noticed!

Some polls put him in dire straits…! But this is interesting…

Shays takes swipe at McCain

New England’s lone House Republican appears to have publicly broken with his party’s standard-bearer, saying John McCain has not run a clean campaign and is likely to lose his bid for the presidency.

“I just don’t see how [McCain] can win,” Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays told the Yale Daily News earlier this week. “He has lost his brand as a maverick; he did not live up to his pledge to fight a clean campaign.” Shays, who in 2006 became the only Republican congressman from New England, perennially finds himself in a heated re-election race.

Here’s the real clincher…

Shays is a co-chairman of McCain’s campaign efforts in Connecticut.

Bwhahahaha…!!!

anyone else nostalgic for the Nixon years, when hearings meant something and people went to jail when they broke the law and resigned when they broke the people’s trust?

The good old days.

Aloha, LL!

nite LL… Sleep well and dream of our country under President Barack Obama!!

I can’t wait for the Harvey Milk movie to come out next month. They just had the premiere in the Castro last night.

color me nostalgic….

like FDR said you have to make me. A political reality if it is too costly you are not in office so there are political limitation. Plus for the neocons the end justifies the mean so they will stop at nothing to hold power. Obams probably has to pray a lot to make it through some of the crap they are slinging. Keep your eye on the prize.

And Mr. Teller has been awesome from the primes on.

No thoughts to long or topic off in late nites, itwasn’tme.. Thanks for sharing… it’s something I think about a lot for someone who was born in the middle of it.

What was the one man one vote movement?

I have red velvet suit… but i didn’t get to Berkeley and the Haight til the early 80’s. *g* Which immediately felt like home to me.

I’m not interested in rehashing Clinton much myself tonight, but watching him speak with Obama in Florida a few hours ago… well it made me wonder how much of a victim of his southern upbringing he really is/was. Running to the middle, even the right for approval all the time…even when it was both the wrong thing to do and they would slaughter him no matter what.

I hope that type need for approval from the abusive Daddy’s (or whatever) isn’t in the next guy.

Then there was marching in protests, getting the right to wear black armbands at school…

I read an article just a couple of days ago about a small school district in rural AR which has spent over 60k fighting that old (arm band) Supreme ruling in court this year.

Decimating Reagan’s city on a hill, one lame tactic at a time.

-G

Would be great to put that up on the obligatory big screens at the Homophobe Festival at Qualcomm.

Old age and treachery beats youth and vigor every time.

And get off my lawn!

So true in so many ways. Most of us look for immediate change, which rarely happens. Change takes time. Human nature, for the most part, doesn’t do change well. But the beauty of it is that it does happen. History tells us this is true. Our egos, I think, want to see change happen quickly, because we perceive that it is about us. What we don’t see and rarely except, is that change is really about the future.

This is worth repeating often, imo. It’s amazing how much more I know about what your generation did compared to folks just a few years younger than myself. And yet amazing what I don’t know, that i should.

We do a terrible job of teaching very recent history in this country.

LOL. you made me snigger.

I honked for the volunteers waving signs for NO on Prop 8.

I explained to my kids that I’m not about telling other people what their business is, or about taking rights away. It’s just stupid.

What’s a Jonsie? I might be one too.

True. I wonder if Michele Bachmann would have zipped her lip on Tweety’s show if she had ever heard of McCarthy and the Red Scare?

Oh yes. Justice was served (mostly) and our country worked. Now, it doesn’t. It’s broken. I’m very nostalgic for those years.

Sounds like what Lieberman would do in his situation..

doG I hope Shays takes a whooping.

I know, I like that one.
Let me guess – edging ever so quickly for 50… no?

I wonder what happened to all the FireDogLake Diggers?? Musta all gone to Flowers everyone!

Right On Margot…by the way Blackwater owner donated $450,000.00 to Yes on 8 my next door neighbor has a sign on his yard he’s a Mormon. The lady across the street just took hers down. Weirdness the right are becoming activists. Good thing police are union or we would be up the crick …

Just curious, what generation do think I am?

707!

ES @72 , the One Man, One Vote movement coincided with a lot of the freedom marches and concern the fair representation of the people in state legislatures – a lot of the unfairness in them effected the ability of blacks to vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_man,_one_vote

How true! And I have a History minor… It is woeful what we’re taught for current history… My Poly Sci Major did make up for that gap tho…! ;-)

I would say, you are in your mid 50’s.

From wiki:

Generation Jones is a term that describes people in certain English-speaking countries born between the years 1954 and 1965. American social commentator Jonathan Pontell identified this generation and coined the term to name it.[1][2][3][4] Generation Jones has been referred to as a heretofore lost generation between the Baby boomers and Generation X, since prior to the popularization of Pontell’s theory, its members were included with either the Boomers or Xers. The name connotes a large, anonymous generation, and derives from the slang term “jonesing”, referring to the unrequited cravings felt by this generation of unfulfilled expectations.

In demographic terms, Generation Jones was part of the baby boom which ended in the early 1960s. However, the events stereotypically associated with generational discussion of Boomers, including protests over civil rights and the Vietnam war and the emergence of rock music took place while the members of Generation Jones were still children or early teenagers.

Way wrong!

Wasn’t that part of the Pig Missile Crisis?

-G

G’night. Gotta go shopping for lunch for 20 Democratic volunteers tomorrow.

Got the low down from the town for working at the polls on Tuesday. Gonna be a busy few days.

P.S.

Quick movie reviews.

Wait to rent W.

Go and see Religulous.

-G

OK if a lady will tell her real age give it up(:>))

Interesting. Thank you.

Easily explained. Shay’s reelection bid is running close.

McCain can take care of that pork! :P

Have a good time and pace yourself these next few days, GB!!

nite GregB and make sure you feed them Dems well!!

Well?

I was born in 1970. It was a pretty good year.

Yes in 68 super markets offered brown and white wonder bread no whole grains. Greenpeace was fighting for our oceans…Environmental law was developed by NRDC and others, California’s Planning and conservation league created CEQA Act. Tittle IX was created, More legal work onrightd and Rowe vs Wade. Huge work was done too much to even consider without that the activism was weak. And there is much more. Univeral healthcare as Obama said today a good social safety net must be grown from what we have.

a pup among pups! :]

Just a kid(:>))

You whippersnapper. /s

Sophie is that your real last name.. if ya don’t mind me asking??

I am an old soul……

It is my real name. I was named after an aunt of my mother’s.

The biggest proponent of Title IX was my former Rep… R.I.P., Patsy Mink, a true lioness of the House for progressives everywhere…! :D

wow not many of us on the west coast .. All I know are related to me!!

My great aunt was killed in an automobile accident. She was my mother’s favorite relative. She was a teacher.

That bread cost .22 and a house was $22,660 (national average). And Hot Wheels came out that year, too.

who knows, what is your last name?

That bread is still a big seller in my neck of the woods.

Well, time for me to get some beauty sleep so I look nice for the elections and everything.

see ya, boomers and all.

Back after watching debates and comedy with Ms ET.

I missed Woodstock and the Chicago Convention. Had opportunities to go to both, but it didn’t happen.

Thinking about helping people to file separate ethics complaints against Sarah Palin for each of the little things about her that have come up:

*** Each kid on each trip each night each plane ticket – new complaint for each possible violation.
*** Each time she spent state money to communicate with evangelical organizations with ties to anti-government activity – new complaint for each trip, each stay, each kid involved.
*** Each time she communicated state business over illegal communication device. Separate complaint for each instance.

I’m thinking of requesting a new investigator be hired for each charge. I’m looking at about 46 possible complaints, 46 possible requests for an investigative team….

So is my Sweetie! She teaches little ones music and movement(Orff method) at her mother’s music school. They start at 16 months and only go through 3rd grade. the school has been going for 27 years.

Hunter

It’s a big seller everywhere…that’s why it’s called Wonder Bread!! If you had that in your lunch box, you are “okay” in schoolyard terms. nothing else will do.

nite, ES. keep the faith, keep on truckin’, peace, that was one bitchin’ post, man.

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Excellent. Even Alaska GOPers deserve much better than Palin.

nite dosido

Rest well, dosido.

Seriously?

David halberstam’s book “The Fifties” is a fascinating look at the emerging trends that came to fruition in the sixties. Well worth the reading. It covers the search for the pill, Levittown, Kinsey, a host of topics.

See 102.

I think the Right started becoming more active around the time of Roe v Wade and The Moral Majority. I heard a lot about how they would start taking over churches and school boards way back then.

hi eureka, i am a 65er too. always had trouble identifying w/ boomers or gen x’ers.

Wiki’s bio of Patsy Mink…

Fortunately, we canned the blue dog, Ed Case, yes, the brother of Steve Case, and replaced him with another progressive Japanese-American woman, Mazie Hirono…!

fuck – born in 54 that makes me a joneser

does this mean i gotta take my dfh bumper sticker off my car?

Wow, very, very cool. Music and movement are so important to development.

Snappy Whipper 38 Special with ethics and morals! And a brain…

DFH transcends.

thats why I asked. I come from what my screen name is! nahant
We used to hold a large voting block ther and all my Fathers side of the Family have been buried there overlooking the Atlantic!

I identified with Boomers far more than my own gen or gen Xers. I don’t know why. It was really weird when I was young… all my friends were much older, always.

Some of ‘em deserve better. The rest deserve what they get, or worse, IMHO.

Music helps develop the brain pathways in the brain for math!!

No. *g*

Yep, along with the ‘I brake for donuts’…! ;-)

Btw, did you see my comment a lot earlier about my wife’s inadvertent tagging?

not in all cases

A rising progressive tide lifts all votes.

My family is from Long Island, New York, and England, and Holland.

Here, here! I’m so with ya on that! ;-)

Don’t forget me, CT.

I teach statistics, but I try to pull in examples that have a social message. Asking them questions like, “What is the incarceration rate in this country? How do you figure that out? Now that you’ve figured it out, what do you think about it?”

Or, in studying variability, looking at income distributions. Wow, kids, look how variable that is! How much of the total income is in the hands of the top 10% of earners? Of the top 1%? What do you think about that?

I’ve told them all term (I love teaching in a presidential election year that I don’t care how they vote, so long as they do vote.

my bad cop no donut bumper sticker was stolen off a car back when i was living in an apt. i got a license plate frame that said that to replace it but forgot to take it off when i gave up my car a couple years ago. it was from my former life – not what i am now so it wasn’t so important that i remembered.

Absolutely, the governments destruction of programs for art and music and science are a disgrace and a problem longer term to the future of our country.

sorry i missed it dood – been busy and just now caught up with ya’ll.

We just be related somewhere along the family lines… My godmother lives on Long Island! And supposedly one of our distant relatives came over from England in the early 1600’s but who really knows.

ES it would take me a life time to explain the 12 years that separate us, and the time I was there overseas as a child, bullets at our walls in Laos, and how it shaped me, and the time you are not here, or were not there.

Hell of a post, though, and two great songs.

As one of the rearguard to this all, lemme tell ya . . . and ask ya, this.

It ain’t gonna be pretty . . . I’m on the adverse.

We kicked ass then. In the 60’s N 70’s. We were in the streets.

You weren’t born.

And at 55 or more or less, my age, we’ll likely still kick ass.

EDITED BY MODERATOR. I feel you are weak. For the fight.

I don’t think you will be in the streets, if we older farts determine we have to do it again.

EDITED BY MODERATOR. Can you fight, will you fight? In the streets?

With your life at risk? Will you die for your beliefs?

Will ya? Will ya fight for US, when they COME for us?

Will ya? Are you prepared?
EDITED BY MODERATOR.

Do Ya?

~~~ModNote: Edited for content. Advocation of violence is prohibited.~~~

I had much to answer for when she asked me who ‘Suzanne’ was and why she’s the infamous Mrs. CT…! :-P

Very cool.

Thanks for Digging Suz the shovels have been slow this evening!!

All Jonsers welcome in Boomerland, in my opinion. I think the “Boomers” are actually officially born 1946-64 or something strange like that. I don’t know what it would have been like to be a kid watching all of the doings of the late 60s – 70s, possibly not a very good influence. I do remember, even during the heights of rioting and “free love” that the Nixon girls were an example of the boomers who didn’t join, and there were more of em – they’ve had a long run; guess they are the lock-step Rethugs of today! Still taking orders, being “good”. I like Julie Nixon however, so you didn’t have to be totally a creep not to take part. And frankly, I had a job the entire time I was marching, so just how rebellious was I anyway? Well, I did my share.

Here’s what I told my husband to put on my tombstone:
Forever proud to part of that generation that tried to levitate the Pentagon.

Maybe we can take some credit for “thinking outside the box” of our time.

Well, I did my part…! ;-)

speaking of epitaphs, my wife knows to have, “michael was insecure but he hopes you liked him anyway,” on mine. other than her, you are the only ones who have ever heard that.

Exactly, at the end of the day, or line, so to speak, we are all related in one way or another.

hahahahaha sorry dood – it was infamous in a good way – trying to clarify who it was that was sending me that (laughing)

All day long, Anchorage AM Right-wing talk radio and new political ads are pleading for people to vote for the most recently indicted corrupt bastard in American politics – Ted Stevens. The radio ads are even indicating that the Federal prosecutors who tried him should be going to jail instead. They will get more and more desperate as the week and weekend unfold.

Ted is going DOWN on Tuesday.

Forever proud to part of that generation that tried to levitate the Pentagon.

I love it.. might even think about borrowing that if I were going the six feet under route.

I can’t imagine school without music or art. I wasn’t never very talented at the drawing aspect of art, but without music i probably would have dropped out.

I’ve seen them cut music classes in all my old schools back home where i grew up. I was mad as hell at that. Art is something that drives some people and keeps them stable. It’s always the first thing to go because it’s ‘not a necessary’ class. Bullcrap on that!

And Arunold is saying he wants to cut the education budget by 3 to 4 billion$$ What kind of a Father is he?? Oh yeah he doesn’t have to worry about HIS kids education! And the Freaking Rethugs here won’t raise taxes period!! Not even on their million dollar yachts!! While the rest of us pay and pay. the typical Rethuflian ploy starve the Government no matter who it hurts as they have the money to do what every they want!!! Bastards I want to see state taxes raised on everyone who makes over … let see 5 Million and raise it to 50% or so same with the Federal taxes the rich have had theur day and we need to have ours!!

You bet you can take credit for a lot of good things. Just remember, no one generation can get everything done, yet you set the tone for those who come later. You gave those who came later a framework, a hope, for seeing things in a different way. In other words, you ROCK!

She’d just joined tagg and didn’t realize that it sent out invites to everyone on our contact list…! Needless to say, I was caught flatfooted…! ;-)

Ted is going DOWN on Tuesday.

There is a song in the making. I just know it.

I came to all that about ‘63 in 5th Grade after years of SE Asian raisiing.

Damn if all that didn’t shape me . . . .

Margot, we were raised in apart but in shard worlds.

And I concur with yer posits.

We fight on, ma’am.

I did see that CT and you were one of the first just after I did the Digging!

Cutting music programs is ignorant beyond ignorant. Science has proven that music elevates IQs. It also teaches important behavioral IQ.

ES @ 160

Be my guest.

On a further note, my eldest wrote back to the better half; “Ma, why’d ya join that one?” ;-)

I am with you brother!

Thanks, soph.

For my History GenEd I took a History of 19th Century Europe class. Prof came in one day and read us The Communist Manifesto,

Workers of the world, unite!
You have nothing to lose but your chains…

that stuff. Scandalized a bunch of my classmates… so then he started in with this one: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. That among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

That scandalized more of my classmates, especially the ones who didn’t recognize TJ’s words … they were wondering what filthy piece of commie garbage that was. It knocked them back several pegs when he pointed out that it was the Declaration of Independence he was reading, and that the ideas expressed there aren’t terribly different from those of Marx and Engels.

I aspire to change student’s way of looking at the world the way he did. I have to do it in my discipline, but I want to knock them out of their comfort zones.

Tsk, tsk, Larue, I just might have to ban ya after all…! ;-)

I couldn’t agree more… half the reason I wish had talent in that area is so I could work with kids.. teaching music.

Wow what a story and a great coalition builder and fearless smart persona.
I am impressed. Thank you for school in me on her. I was attending Portland State University and walking from town to campus I was a little loud…a studious looking woman told me to shut up she was working on a Title IX grant paper. Interesting all those people Oldgold mentioned that did all that academic work to make us better.
Latter at the University of Oregon women there wer using equal sometimes the same facilities with feline grace compared to our more stacatto less fluid motion playing handball indoor courts. many went on to careers that otherwise might not. Fairness and equality is it’s own reward, It is awful to go about feeling like cheat. And wonderful on the other hand to feel gracious.

Definitely! I consider myself a girl geek, but i can also socialize a lot better than those this generation classifies as ‘geeks and nerds’ because of all those choir classes i enjoyed. The other half of that is a VERY boisterous family that refused to let me turn into a total recluse. *grin*

But the music was the one thing i really loved and still love to do, and you can’t perform by being a wallflower!

that is what make a good teacher! Always challenge the students comfort zone so they have to think for themselves… one of the most important lessons in life!

There are some great teachers here. I salute you. Most of us have at least one that inspired and helped us with our future. A fabulous job if you’re cut out for it. Pay should be increased immediately!

I wrote five children’s songs and dedicated them to Ted back 1996, right after he had saved the National
Endowment of the Arts and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting from the post-Gingrich revolution axe. I will write no more songs about him.

I met her personally and listened to quite a few of her speeches, she was a dynamic woman! 8-)

that is exactly the way to do it IMHO. when i was in junior high, in my social studies class, my book had a little paragraph about communism, i remember thinking it didn’t sound so bad. it spoke of who really owns the land that is part of the Earth, i thought that was very interesting….i was just a kid of 13, what did i know…..

How does it feel?

Knocking them out of their comfort zone with the arithmetic is much too easy. I try to hit them at a different level, the “what do the results of the arithmetic mean?”

guess where I’m writing from?

Oh man.. that’s fantastic.. I do wish they were on YouTube. I bet we could do up a fun farewell post with one or two of them.

or should I say guess what I’m writing on?

I also want my nieces to experience the love of the arts. Life would be so boring without it! Art encompasses so much too. From satire, to literature, to music, to the visual arts. You can’t stuff it into one box, that’s the beauty of it. But it’s still the first thing to go when Rethugs want to axe a government program of any type in public schools.

Me too. I had piano lessons as a kid. I was only okay, but I loved music and wished everyone else did too.

Funny, Mod calls me out for my desire or ability to fight, as I call ES out for his.

At my time and place on this planet, I’ll go down swinging. In belief of of my beliefs.

And I question that the younger folks in here, who post in a manly way, really have what it takes to take it mano a mano even in their OWN defense.

I question that ES can defend himself in hand to hand combat. And I don’t think I’m out of line to do so.

I’m laughing at this jive ass FDL mod intercept for calling me out.

And I have no fear.

And I question why Moderator, questions me.

I always question.

And you, fail. To let me question.

Is that such a threat to you? Mod?

Liberating

Well let us hope the Rethugs are going down on Tuesday, and a new Administration will see the value in the Arts for everyone!

You go, ET. Enormous respect for your work.

Well time to put6 Music on the TV and call it an evening!! Good night Pups and sleep well when ya get there…. maybe ya can also dream about living under president Barack Obama…oh what sweet dreams they will be!!

I’m doing my part! I’ll be at the polls early so i can vote before i head to work. :D But i’ve voted in most of the elections since i turned 18 in 1995. :D Gen X, yes. But not one of the completely apathetic ones.

nite nahant

I once asked, in 8th grade I think, that if we were such a free country, how come the communist party wasn’t listed on the ballot. I got a stony look, and got a “C” in the class. Well, I was pretty much a “C” student anyway, but I was obviously trouble. I turned out to be an artist, so it didn’t matter that I never could grasp algebra. Make an OK living, too. (graphic arts).

I don’t even have the best performance up on my garage band site, because the performers – mostly Republicans – won’t let me post the performance recording. The song cycle is called “Wild Critters.” Here’s an OK performance.

g’evening larue – you were moderated for the portion of your comment asking if pups were ready to be violent. it was moderated and your comment was freed from the violence filters.

New PC!!!! yeah how does it feel to be driving a new PC Neuro??

You would love Eureka Springs.. Art galore! But don’t tell everybody. /s

Open up both videos and play them simultaneously. Wild!

like I said a good teacher always make you have to think beyond what you thought you could!!

Yeah ES…down down down in a ring of fire..

ES -
Here’s another one from the sixties -

Pete Seger ” WAIST DEEP IN THE BIG MUDDY “…..2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummKvnnltr4

well, it’s like night and day. instant response. you probably take that for granted but you have no idea the conditions I have been laboring under. bought a USB plug-in for our local network and have been surfing all evening. still getting used to windows vista but it’s great to be liberated.

‘nite, nahant.

How important are the arts?

They are critical. Study after study has shown that persistence in school is largely determined by ties to school. If the student has a need that is most easily met by being in school, they are much more likely to stay. For some, the need is intramural sports. For many, it’s music. For others it’s a teacher or a staff member.

The arts are not extracurricular activities — they are part of the curriculum. In my case, playing music was much easier in school than out of it. I played all the way through my MSc. When I went back for my doctorate, my then-wife told me I couldn’t play/sing/act, I was in school for school. I got it done, but it would have been more enjoyable with some music in my life.

Good for you, but you should always vote. There is always someone to vote for even beyond the Dem and Repub choices. Make your voice heard, one way or another…..Learn about the governance of our country, be heard, make a difference, make a choice….

to be on your own?

like a complete unknown?

Dang, I hope you’re right. On the other hand, if Stevens were to win regardless of his guilt, it would make most of us “lower 48ers” wonder about the values of Alaskans.

Glad I was able to help you Neuro choose your new PC!! Happy surfing!!
Now POOF for the evening nite pups once again(:>))

Good night nahant, maybe cousin? sweet dreams.

Johnny Cash Yep Ted is going down in a burning ring of fire

now you dont feel so proud

Whoa..

Larue, is it necessary to invoke a macho mano-a-mano confrontation on line…? What’s the point? We all know we can’t alliterate or advocate the use of violence here at the Lake! Questioning the status quo and/or authority doesn’t require threats or intimidation! We need to be prepared and ready to defend ourselves but also smart in the application of it…!

Vista???

Eewwwww. Mrs BC has Vista on her HP. It’s the most annoying piece of software I’ve ever used, and I’ve used some real doozies.

Johnny Cash- Ring of Fire tEd is going down down down in a ring of fire

1,811 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Eureka Sprigs and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“…this election may be your generations last call.”

There must be an echo in here Citizen ES…I been soundin’ the trumpets about this election and the importance of endin’ this last installment of America’s war for empire and oil. But I want to maybe stand up for my generation and give ya a bit of an overview of the history of the children of the “Greatest Generation” (if I ever see that bastard Brokow, I’m gunna punch his smarmy lights out!).

First of all, the “baby boomers” from the beginnin’ wrestled against the world to which their parents worked mightily to conform. Excesses of sex, drugs and rock and roll were steps in the ballet this generation danced in it’s search for what certainly must be a better world somewhere. When the parents in that “greatest generation” held a war for their children to fight, the kids not only fought it with the furosity of their fathers and grandfathers but in the process they had the temerity to stand up and call bullshit. For their efforts, the boomer generation lost over 55,000 of their “best and brightest” and were terrorized through the angry streets by agents of the masters of the last “great war”. But the boomers never quit, they paid the price in blood and life on the streets to finally end the war that their parents had bestowed on ‘em…but to what end?

This generation, my generation, is Americas “lost generation”…not lost in the sense of no direction, but left behind by their parents when it came time to inherit the power of tomorrow. When our history finally catches up with us (it’s fast approaching) the baby boomer generation is going to be seen as the starting point of the the rebirth of courage and the assasin of the nihism of the past …

Yes, this election may be the last chance my generation has to “get it right” but if there is a “better world” out there and we make it there, it will be because the baby boomers didn’t quit.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE FUCKIN AMMUNITION, WE AREN’T TAKIN ANY SHIT ANYMORE!!

i have vista and like it – i don’t know what all the fuss was about

Yup. There was one civics course that was required when i graduated in high school. It was called ‘problems of democracy’. Basically we got to sit in class and review political news articles and speeches all year long. Tore them apart bit by bit, no matter what side was in power. This was ‘95 too. When the GOP reached their peak. Taught me a lot of why i have to vote and how to chose it

I think that’s where my bullshit detector started to wake up. By the time i was officially 18 in august of that year? It was wide awake and shouting. Hasn’t shut up either.

I’ve voted in all the presidentials since then, but only in one off year election which was 06. I think i’ll be voting in them more often now. The last 8 years and especially these last two here with the Firepups has taught me a lot!

She has a really nice voice.

Goodness. Best of all to you, CTuttle. Cool it, Larue, we know you’re on the good team, thanks for the vids, ES, and night everyone.

nite loo hoo
5 more days

Mahalo, Loo Hoo! Aloha!

We need a commune again!!!

now you don’t talk so loud

CT,

The exit polls are being done much more carefully this time. The state level polls are being done much more carefully this time.
Once can be an accident, poor design of the surveys, whatever. Twice … well, that forms pattern and practice.

Classic!

look out kid

She does, but she misses a few important modulatory pitches in the third song, which warps the performance set.

Bullshit detectors are very good, keep up the good works…

I’d love to stay and trade Dylan lines, but my expiration date has expired so good nite until next time.

Vista’s constant nagging is a pain. It’s not the most stable OS in the world, but nothing Gates’ organization puts out is. The incompatibilities (even in the so-called compatibility mode) are disturbing.

The lack of driver support was infuriating. Her machine has been nothing but hardware/software problems after about six months. When it’s replaced (soon), a Mac is coming in its place.

time for me to head out myself. g’nite pups

Good night and sweet dreams neurophius.

“I often find myself conflicted between wanting to praise you old DFH’s for what you did in the 60’s or wanting to criticize you for dropping the ball too soon.”

Born in 1952. Lived the ’60s. Was at Woodstock in ‘69, Vietnam Moratorium in DC, tear gassed often, traveled much, jailed much for being a DFH, and am certainly a DFH (though the “D” is way overstated.

The ball wasn’t dropped, just passed along. The ’70s was not a time that such as us got into public service. “Ever done any drugs?” Yeah, all of them. “Sex?” Yes, lots and varied. “Tripped?” All the time. Who’s going to back that?

On the other hand, I stayed very involved with Amnesty International and other “progressive” groups.

I came from a “good family” and left at 16yrs old. I lived half on the streets from 1969 and started raising a family in 1973. I was a tree surgeon, carpenter, goldsmith, whatever it took. At my level you took care of current priorities, mostly at minimum wage. I worked in a foundry in Colorado at $2.35/hr in the ’70s (gas was 27 cents a gallon in those days). There were no luxuries other than those we afforded ourselves (a trip up the canyon, some camping on the Divide). Now I have kids in their 30s, grandkids in their teens. And yes, now there are some luxuries. They were taught well and continue to carry the ball. All of them. They are the future.

You seem to be one of them. Thanks for continuing the search/struggle.

“The most dangerous world view is that of someone who has not viewed the world” Alexander von Humboldt.

Suzanne, good night and best of sweet dreams to you.

nite suz

Aloha, neuro!

‘night suz…

Aloha, Suz!

Well said and well done. Keep up the good works.

“Ever done any drugs?” Yeah, all of them. “Sex?” Yes, lots and varied. “Tripped?” All the time. Who’s going to back that?

How true! At least Obama came clean on Coke… Unlike Shrub, eh?

That is why the shrub is just a shrub.

Beautiful.. It’s many people like you who inspired me to hit the streets as soon as I could. Politically speaking, that was in 1984, protesting No Mo Ron – Out the Door in ‘84 RNC convention in Dallas… Of course I was also running for city council back at home.

My first vote/ election was a very exciting time. Your gen gave me no choice. hehe

To ES–
I haven’t read thru the first 227 posts to see if somebody else has already brought this up, but just in case they haven’t, the Baby Boomers started in 1945 and went for 20 years, so after you do the math don’t forget to mail us a copy of your birth certificate so we can send you the BB decoder ring and the secret handshake. You know you’ve been missing since birth and we’ve been looking everywhere for you and about 12 million of your brothers and sisters. Stolen by that Gen X carnival that came through here in 1980 no doubt. Well, never mind, we still love you and we saved you a rocking chair and a blanket and a spot right next to the stove. Welcome back.

LOL!
Don’t take it so heavy. Us post-Boomers are pretty daft.

very, very funny….bless you…

I spend a t least an hour a day with my hillbilly metal detector.. out searching for that missing decoder ring!

Life wont be the same now that you’ve found it for me. *g*

Speak for yourself, Newt! ;-)

Well firedogs.. it’s been real AND fun…. but the old blankets are calling.

G’ nite

OK, should have said us “native-born schmuckeroo post-Boomers” are daft.
My bad.

Aloha, ES!

Heh, better…! ;-)

Breaking – Sarah Palin has just announced her 2012 running mate – Nicolae Carpathia!

Good night ES, best of the best dreams to you.

Carpathia is the Antichrist

I thought Miz Flailin’ was…! ;-)

nite eureka
what a thread

Is it just me, or are those books just a big, giant, pile of crap?

Seriously, my understanding is that there is no substantiation in the Bible for the Rapture. It is new interpretation by “whack-jobs”.

the latter. The movies are even worse. They are on the front shelf in the Wasilla Public Library.

Compliments of Miz Sarah? ;-)

That, sadly, doen’t surprise me. I have not seen the movies, but I know some people who have. Their beliefs are, well, unbelievable and almost pitiable. If that is a word.

I for one will be happy to left behind. I need a new iPod and there’s bound to be plenty of bling just lying around whence they have departed.

Did you have the pleasure of seeing the Nigerian minister exorcising the demons outta Miz Palin…?

I’m with you, the “stuff” left behind for all of us heathens, will be more than enough to start a new society. I am all for it. Let the Rapturing begin!

I did see the video of that. Very enlightening. Enough to drive me away from her “Christianity”.

Heh, Amen…! ;-)

I wonder if the Rapture impacts me as a Baha’i…?

But I will say that having been here at FDL, you folks have given me new hope about the quality of people that inhabit my world. Thank you all so very, very much.

I went to your link, and I am with you….

leaving soon.

But you have to see some of Glenn today…

Dick Morris: Obama might still have a small chance to win

But Fox News political strategist/genius Dick Morris this morning has a message for Obama supporters: while things obviously look extremely bleak for your candidate right now, there is still a small chance that, if everything goes absolutely perfectly for Obama, he still might be able to eke out a narrow victory:

As Obama has oscillated, moving somewhat above or somewhat below 50 percent in all the October polls, his election likely hangs in the balance . . . Likely a disproportionate number of the undecideds will vote for McCain.

But don’t write Obama off. His candidacy strikes such enthusiasm among young and minority voters that there is still a chance that a massive turnout will deliver the race to the Democrats.

nite pups
5 days

The Lake is a very unique place, alive and vibrant! All are welcome and respected! I’m a relative newbie, early ‘06! ;-)

Feelin a little dafty here by the fire…yes indeedy rubbing my hnads together…leaning over to stir the coals one last time farting obliviously…
So amusing out of the blue the phone rang and a strange confident voice asked if I were me and was I associated with affordable housing etc. he talked with me for about an hour discussing an affordable development he was trying to develop on 40 acres he owned usind modular manufactured housing. I shared what I could…after a bit he revealed he was 92 and as nimble witted as can be and good humored, I asked him if he rememberd the depression… yes just got out of high school he had bought the 40 acres up near near San Leandro I gave him some connections and we joked about dog bites. 92 goin strong gotta love it. Made my day.

For vets and seniors.

Aloha, Newt! They still think they have a chance, eh? ;-)

That is awesome, BB! Good for him!

I know that I am an infant regarding time served, but I seriously feel so welcome, and so blessed in terms of wisdom received, I can’t really thank you all enough.

That is the intent and purpose of the Lake! Too much static and dissent at all the other bigs like DKos, Huffpo, DU, etc…! The Lake is warm and accommodating…! 8-)

I started at Dkos and was turned off, which brought me to the warmth of the Lake. Thank you all again. I mean this so sincerely.

Also the Mods run a tight ship! Right, Lurk? ;-)

zzzzzzz-wha?

Hmmm… Lurk must be napping! (Rugby players are suiting up) ;-)

Dang, crossed in the tubes! Here’s some chocolate covered pecans for ya, Lurk…! :-)

I have seen/heard so little for the mod/lurk to have to worry about. One of the many things that makes the Lake so special. Seriously not trying to suck up. This is a special place. So many smart, articulate, interesting, knowledgeable, wise, warm people here.

No, no. The sucking-up is working fine.

And you articulate in a not so overbearing way.
CT Newtoner ES it was an excellent thread. I also got a great call today on our November 21 Townhall meeting where we have asked contractors to come in a and estimate various portions of our upcoming seer projec that the County has highballed in a manner that will gentrify the community we do get a survey on preference so we have a say,,,we need to know real numbers. Happily A gentleman I called responded by booking a flioght in tommorow to LAX and his associate will drive up to talk about an affordable alternative they will present at our meeting.
As they used to say on the A team…ain’t it great when a plan comes together! I may be able to pay for the event at this rate.

Cool. Glad to see something is working….

Top notch, Ma’am, no doubt about it! I haven’t seen/heard from the boss mod, RBG in a long spell…! I wonder if he’ll hold me to the same oath that we’d agreed upon in the last baseball postseason…?

Chocolate covered with caramel like The Big Easy! Yum

Have far will he subdivide, a quarter acre per home?

The description of a progressive for creative changes.

Lurk, you usually forgo the caramel, right?

Semi-sweet chocolate on dark-roasted pecans.
But in these recessionary times, a bit more flexible.

Amen to that brother.

If I recall he gets 3 per acre…but they are not in the low income density bonus that most planning departments allow. Here it is 35 per acre which is multifamily… his is SFRs.

Aside you mentioned Bahai. When I was in Mombasa Kenya in 197o hitchhicking around Africa I met some Bahai and they were a swell bunch. Seemed easy going to me and inclusive rather than starchy.

I love semi-sweet chocolate with dark roasted pecans and caramel. Seriously, my very favorite. what could be better?

although I am very seriously addicted to marzipan and dark chocolate…

Heh, In these lean times it’s all good! Well, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

Attaturk is upstairs!
I guess Blinky & Winky will have to make a porno (did I just type that?)

Sweetest dark chocolate dreams CT.

That’s quite a few that’ll be built! I’ve never met a Baha’i who was starchy! During all my travels, and I’ve seen a lot, I’ve always sought them out, they’re usually the most welcoming of all…! Nite…! *poof*

3D_9BlwYUdcS8″> It’s a beautiful Day

GW Bush is a boomer.
Time to move aside.

Thanks for the video collage, along with the old-fashioned new-left Jefferson Airplane vibes, it really brought back the memories. I was in college the day the Kent State massacre happened. It was like a lightning bolt across the campus. We shut down the university that year, final exams were cancelled and vigils were held in the classrooms. We really thought we were on the edge of a revolution.

In retrospect, the genuine opportunity we boomers had was to fashion our own solutions, but not to the problems our parents laid on us. We came of age in the turmoil of desegregation and the military draft, and the most we could do was express our moral outrage at the injustices we were confronted with.

But the dilemmas that our grandparents laid on our parents was where we could really make our mark. The sexual hypocrisy that demanded marriage before sex was one of the first taboos we demolished. Interracial marriage was next, followed quickly by our generation’s rejection of the “double standard” that branded women as either virgins or whores. We called it the “sexual revolution”, and it led directly to the second wave of feminism in the 70’s.

The generation that followed us boomers came up with their own solution to the problem of racism: hip hop culture, a social movement rooted in Black music that young people from all walks of life could appreciate and participate in. While the nation is still far from achieving a truly level playing field, we are seeing the unprecedented breakthrough of the son of an interracial marriage successfully aspiring to the highest reaches of mainstream society.

The dilemma we now face is the stalemate over gay marriage, the flashpoint of the unresolvable impasse between Christian and egalitarian moral values. We adults are far too close to the issue to do anything more than lobby adamantly for our own side in this fight. It will be up to the next generation to discover a solution of their own.

It’s not our last call….I’m sixty years old and I’m shoulder to shoulder with my younger cohorts; they respect my age disabilities and I delight in their sustained energy and laughter. I introduce them to Simone’s Mississipi Goddamn and they play me (I forgot the name) on an Ipod. I enjoy Jon Stewart with them and tell them about the Smothers Brothers… The difference is I weep more often- in gratitude, fear, and prayer. The frequency that I evoke a higher power has really increased. My prayer: Please let it happen…allow us to try to redeem ourselves, our America. Not the most important place on earth, but the place where we are.

Has anyone besides me actually read the 1990 novel “Generation X” which for some reason inspires so many 1970s babies to identify themselves as Gen Xers? I can understand that it sounds cool and that’s advantageous to marketers and ad sales people trying to pigeonhole a generational demographic, but (1) it’s about people who became adults in the late 1980s, not people who were still in grade school then; and (2) they were a bunch of underachieving slackers. As a 1965 baby, I meet the generational criterion; however, I reject being identified as a Gen Xer because I’m not an underachieving slacker. Just saying, buy the book and not the sales pitch.