Seems the US attacked a village 10 miles inside Syria, two helicopters landed and disbursing commandos who then killed a bunch of, what Syria claims, were construction workers. As Brandon notes, 10 miles means it wasn’t a "mistake" and this is the first time the US has attacked there. I know Syria isn’t considered all that friendly to the US, despite having helped quite a bit against al-Q’aeda, but either destabilizing them or encouraging them to retaliate through underhanded means (i.e., supporting terrorism or the Iraqi insurgency) seems… unwise. The foreign policy clown car that is the Bush administration continues to accelerate.
As with Pakistan, and as in the Vietnam war, America’s wars are getting out of control, and spreading to other countries. It’s long past time to bring the troops home.



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*sigh*
From what I heard 2 helicopters landed disbursing troops while two more remained in the air giving cover
George just wants to leave a hell of a mess for Barack Obama to handle.
is this in lieu of the war-to-liberate-Iran the shrub n’ darth show have been promising, or is this in addition to?
Speechless.
Syria makes Israel feel bad about itself. This is why the US is attacking Syria, I suppose.
Another act of aggression towards a sovereign nation, another war crime.
Bush is really pushing his luck.
Douchebag tin horn wannabe dictator.
Most places have leash laws for dogs, looks like one is needed when the military is outside US borders.
Curb your military as well.
Unfuckingbelievable.
Worst….preznit…..evah.
Can someone shut off phone and electric service to the white house until Jan 20
just checked all the MSM websites.. only Foxnews is featuring the attack as a headline (figures.. they probably think its some type of “reinvigorate the base” thing.. war as viagra for rethug voters)
Is this the frackin back door into Iran?
Here is MSNBC they have it on TV too
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27389245/
Dohhh!!…………WTF!!
This must have cheered a morose W, bolstering his flagging spirits and proving, to his own smug satisfaction, that he is indeed, still, ‘the MAN’.
Maybe W will find a safe haven in Israel when everything blows over?
The irony would be delicious, though I should pity the Israeli people if such came to pass (as opposed to their Political Class, who like ours, should get exactly what they deserve).
Borders, scmorders. I’m sure McWar thinks this is just a great idea. Besides, Sarah can see 10 miles across the ocean to Russia, so what’s 10 miles across the Syrian border?
Can we get a class action suit going to get Barack sworn in on Nov 5?
October……………..Surprise!
Now the calls from the right! Where does Obama stand!
-G
also.. could this not conceivably be staging for McInsane? He gets to make a few authoritative, leaderly, bloodcurdling pronoucements on the Islamic threat or whatever, and, since he was no doubt forwarned about the attack, try to make Obama seem unprepared?
exactly G
try to make Obama seem unprepared?
Impossible to do.
But if I were to come up with a reaction, this would be a good start.
doesn’t me they won’t try ;P
I wonder how they’re going to spin this with the Joe the Plumber meme. “Joe demands wars of aggression!”
More breaking agression: US drone fires rocket in Pakistan supposedly killing twenty militants. Better get Ollie over there to verify.
actually. that’s a question. Couldn’t Congress conceivably enact legislation barring the president from ANY aggressive military actions abroad (say, outside of Iraq and Afghanistan, which are active theatres of engagement) without explicit Congressional authorization?
With GPS, even a 100 yds inside Syria would not be a mistake.
This will help keep Iraq and Syria from becoming friendly neighbors.
Witnesses: US Helicopters Attack Syrian Village From Der Spiegel
someone suggested hostage rescue, possible?
I think we do not really care where he goes…But I do like the idea that crazy people can be committed…Shouldn’t the American people have standing to say we do not want a crazy Pres. and Veep?
IIRC With military GPS, 5 foot is the level of accuracy, civilian GPS is 30 foot.
Late news article;
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._1026.html
October Surprise = Illegal attack on Syria to appease Israel and bolster McCain’s campaign. Ask Lieberman how much influence he had over this.
Reminder to US Troops…it’s illegal to follow illegal orders.
If there was no “hot pursuit,” this is a war crime.
The insane Bush gangster regime has been murdering people around the world for the last seven years: Yemenis, Afghanis, Iraqis, Pakistanis, South Ossetians, and Syrians. The Bush regime is made up of lying war criminals and war mongers, supported by McCain and Palin.
I was being generous. Actually some or all of that border has a raised berm to demarcate it.
‘this is a war crime.’
Well, I think that it woud just be an act of war (as if that would merit the use of ‘just’)… unless civilians were intentionally targeted, then it would be a war crime. Basically, shrub just tried to start a war. If the Syrians reciprocate, then we will be at war.
HELLO peeps!!
That ratbastard!
BBC is running with this as their lead item
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7692153.stm
isn’t the Israel election goin gone? perhaps this is an attempt by shrubco to influence that outcome?
Israeli election I mean
If Mossad dresses up like Syrian’s and appears to retaliate against US troops, then we will be at war with Syria under false (flag) pretenses, just like Israel attempted to accomplish with the attack on the USS Liberty.
My God. Bush and Cheney just execute anyone they please. If you’re dead, you must have been a terrorist, and that includes babies, children, women and old people.
Maybe they’re trying to help McCain, but I suspect it’s more about handing Obama a world on fire.
And Bush/Cheney are in there until January 2009. Impeachment would have prevented this. Who knows what other horrors they’ll bring us as their parting shot.
Russian navy ships been docking in Syria. Isreal/USA eattling Syrian cage?
Just noting the working accuracy of GPS systems, 100 yards is generous to a fault. They intentionally crossed the border was my underlying message. I was not aware of the bermed border, another fact for the reference.
Well if we are attacking Syria now, will Lichtenstein be far behind?
And, done in our name whether we like it or not. A time to mourn. I was hearing today serious analysis about the stealing of the last election (’04). Our country is out of legal bounds…are we about to start the correction? We hope.
I’m sure the neocons will back everything Barack Obama does come January, because they’ve always told us we must respect, honor, and support the president of the United States! I can’t wait to remind them of their own standing.
George Bush to ‘retire’ to Israel? Oh boy. Think Israel has problems now? Wait until the big Bullseye moves there! LOL
Would you prefer to just write my comments for me, or are you content to merely edit them to a meaning you are more comfortable with?
Okay, this story says the US troops attacked a building under construction.
What will W claim was being built?
A) A missile launch facility?
B) A dirty bomb factory?
C) A suicide bomber training and equipping facility?
D) ???
Bonus points if you include bigbrother’s suggestion of Russian cargo being involved.
hehe. I wouldn’t put it past them. At some point, Americans will figure out this is the absolute last corner of the world you want to play this type of game in. If shrub provokes another mid-east crisis just to get McInsane some votes, then I think he should be prosecuted for it, somehow. Wasn’t Condi supposed to be bringing peace to the Middle East in the last months of the shrub regime?
GW’s lookin EVERYWHERE for Osama Bin Laden eh? Never know where that clever terrorist might be hidin—
Ouch!
from your link
on a Syrian construction site, clearly. Yep. That must be it.
That’s SOP for an insertion
Whether to term it ’standing’ or the ‘right’ to protect ourselves from madness, such shall come into being ONLY when the people insist upon it.
The safeguards the Founders put into the Constitution (specifically to prevent what happened to the Roman Republic), have failed, owing to the cowardice of individuals within the institutions designed to withstand tyranny…
But there is a higher law, jus cogens, of which the ‘people’ may avail themselves.
The problem is, that, aside from the economic reality staring folks in the face, most citizens do not really gasp what has happened, in sufficient numbers to encourage the will of the people, generally, to respond with appropriate actions.
We, the people, have the ‘mandate’, Rev Bev, and thereby the responsibility, for the ‘nature’ and ‘thrust’ of our times. It remains an open question as to whether that is sufficiently understood or that the courage requisite for its implementation as conscious action exists or may ever exist.
I still favor the notion that most human beings are fundamentally decent as well as educable, a sensibility not widely favored at the moment, it would seem, at least among the Political Class, who probably prefer things to remain as they are …
Gran Fenwick need take caution as well
They were looking for
Very, very OT but I think you’d really love Cintra Wilson’s new book, “Caligula for President.”
USA has so much trouble with economic woes, Bank failure, credit crunch, failed Afghan war, Pakistan border war, Iran border and climate change.
Why is Bushco bringing more grief on us? I want some answers from our congressional reps.
It is time to seriously investigate this and the many other atrocities Bushco has allowed the MIC to implement. The UN security council should hold hearing on this tommorow. This is another domino inflaming the ME. Has someone dugg this post?
what are you saying?
link
Thank you for thoughtful remarks. I never could have thought we such lawlessness and disregard for the safeguards you name. What has happened to the powerful voice of the hippies of the ’60s? I know they are older, but they are also more powerful and established. Do they not notice or care anymore? And where are the young people whose institutions are being stolen? And where is the Congressional loyal opposition to right these wrongs?
I keep feeling the people may be stirring, but for some reason we have not reached outrage….I don’t get it.
They are nothing if not consistent…in their overwhelming stupidity.
Could it be a last ditch effort on the neocon’s part to create the “great war surrounding Israel?”?
that’ll be a good ad. Shrub and Insane’s portraits next to each with the word “Lawless” below them.. followed by a long list of shrub’s aggressive and illegal military actions linked to Insane’s voiced support of and votes for those actions.
I’m hoping beyond hope that there’s a damn good explanation for this.
Do you actually think that Congress will miss any of recess to do some hard lessons?
They shan’t return until the whistle blows or ‘lunch’ is over.
As to holding W to account?
Surely you jest. A strongly worded letter, some bloviation …
The boyz and gurls are quite complicit, and, most likely, nothing of genuine substance, that is anything with attendant ‘consequence’ is likely.
One would probably be safe, bb, in placing a substantial bet on America’s ‘futures’ in that regard.
I would guess that the ‘gambling’ is ‘on’ …
Book Salon upstairs with Bruce Fein and his book Constitutional Peril
How relevant….and McLiar about to appear in Gainesville. Big Whoop.
good explanation? for invading a sovereign country without warning, notice, of even a hint of a stab at diplomacy? without even a threat of action or ultimatum? nah. not the shrub/maverick way. we shoot first, then make up lies and excuses later.
Ah, RevBev;
I am one of thse hippies.
I am, indeed, older.
As to being powerful, I’ve only my words and whatever affect I might have upon those with whom I converse.
With regard to being ‘established’, I think you will discover that most of us chose to ‘invest’ in people and ideas rather than building massive portfolios …
However, I must tell you, that concerned as I am, I am convinced we are closer than ever we have been in my lifetime to seeing the beginnings of the world we all seek and deserve …
Never have so many ‘understood’ so much, however painful the ‘education’ has been.
What we must find now is the imagination to perceive the world we would have, put such perception into words and ideas which will touch the hearts and souls of our fellow humans and then, move with courage and conviction.
Though I am far from sanquine, I am generally optimistic.
Just visiting FDL convinces me that some of the finest minds and sensibilities of tjhis nation share my hopes and dreams.
We are making progress, but as I’ve said before on these threads, we are at the place in our ‘journey’ that the Civil Rights Movement found itself in about 1959.
DW
Because W is a man who liked to kill animals and he loved to execute prisoners while he was governor. Shall we say he is sociopathic? O yeh, he’s prolife.
I welcome your hope and vision and work. Thanks
Wag the DOG!
Doesn’t O plan to reverse CCM* directive #3,468 and actually try to engage the Syrians in a manner similar to the Europeans?
And if that’s the case, in the absence of any truly justifiable operational specifics (ha!) doesn’t this make this a well-poisoning operation?
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*Cheneyite Course of Madness
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Syria registering a “formal complaint”….Invasion by most secretive of US forces, believe they can go into any country in pursuit. Nice….
The enemy you have
You don’t go into an election with the October Surprise you would want to have, but with the October Surprise you actually have. Yes, they would rather goad Iran into retaliating against us in time to terrorize the electorate into voting Republican, but that would have required a large, deliberate military effort, and that seems to have been blocked by the generals. But if they have to settle for a quickie helicopter raid into Syria — well, you just have to accept the provocation you can get and hope it causes the jackpot retaliation you want.