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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon:  Bruce Fein</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700580</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Way epu’d - but this is a book I’ll buy.  Thank you for writing it.  51 - the suggestgion of US District Judge Royce Lamberth kind of blew me away, but I think that with his briefings and exchanges with DOJ on the illegal, unconstitutional program, he probably would have too many conflicts to steer the boat, but I really like the thought process.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I look forward to reading this - at long last something holding up the Republican side, not a Yoo, Flanigan, Gonzales, Bradbury, Ashcroft etc. piece of nonsense, but a smart guy with principals.  Thank you for constantly coming back to the need to do the right thing, the Constitutional thing, the moral thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way epu’d &#8211; but this is a book I’ll buy.  Thank you for writing it.  51 &#8211; the suggestgion of US District Judge Royce Lamberth kind of blew me away, but I think that with his briefings and exchanges with DOJ on the illegal, unconstitutional program, he probably would have too many conflicts to steer the boat, but I really like the thought process.  </p>
<p>I look forward to reading this &#8211; at long last something holding up the Republican side, not a Yoo, Flanigan, Gonzales, Bradbury, Ashcroft etc. piece of nonsense, but a smart guy with principals.  Thank you for constantly coming back to the need to do the right thing, the Constitutional thing, the moral thing.</p>
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		<title>By: wethepeopleismarxnow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700539</link>
		<dc:creator>wethepeopleismarxnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“No President has surrendered power voluntarily,” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So President Carter fought against the FISA bill to reign in Nixonian Presidential antics? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe you should rephrase it… No ‘dishonest’ President has surrendered power voluntarily.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“No President has surrendered power voluntarily,” </p>
<p>So President Carter fought against the FISA bill to reign in Nixonian Presidential antics? </p>
<p>Maybe you should rephrase it… No ‘dishonest’ President has surrendered power voluntarily.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700461</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Republicans have been criminals for as long as I can recall — all my life. Eisenhower let it happen. Nixon was the smart one and he led it. Reagan was the stupid one and he couldn’t remember doing it. Bush 41 was quiet about it, but still said the American public would lynch them if it was known what they’d done to America. Newt was another “smart” one who let it go on and led us to our current disasters. Dubya let it all out in the open without inhibition. The only thing he hasn’t done is to crown himself in public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If America hasn’t had enough of these guys then we’re all stupid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there any true Conservative today who kneels on bended knee to the Communist (in their opinion) Constitution of the U.S.A. which calls for the sovereign to be “the people”? I’d like to be kind to Republicans who appear civil and who don’t harm me, but there are so few. If it takes the extremes of George W. to rile them, then they just aren’t very bright or maybe it’s just that their special interests aren’t getting enough earmarks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even during the Clinton administration there were a few and we were not served well by any of them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Over the last 28 years there have been 5 Republican terms and it’s hard to name more than 2 or 3 things they have done  which benefited anyone but themselves. However, the list of their stupid, selfish, destructive, criminal activities is enough to fill volumes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even this evening on 60_Minutes they discussed the Credit Default Swaps and placed the blame squarely on Bill Clinton. How dare those bastards. They didn’t even mention Newt Gingrich and the Republican majority Congress for the entire story. They’re not quite Liberal for sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to lay out who did what and place blame. If Americans never get the story straight, then how can our politics go foward properly?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need many things, but one is a new Dem 9/11 commission and for Bush &amp; Co to go to jail after he leaves office. If we can’t even do those kinds of things, then how can we say we’re ‘good or smart people’?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans have been criminals for as long as I can recall — all my life. Eisenhower let it happen. Nixon was the smart one and he led it. Reagan was the stupid one and he couldn’t remember doing it. Bush 41 was quiet about it, but still said the American public would lynch them if it was known what they’d done to America. Newt was another “smart” one who let it go on and led us to our current disasters. Dubya let it all out in the open without inhibition. The only thing he hasn’t done is to crown himself in public.</p>
<p>If America hasn’t had enough of these guys then we’re all stupid.</p>
<p>Is there any true Conservative today who kneels on bended knee to the Communist (in their opinion) Constitution of the U.S.A. which calls for the sovereign to be “the people”? I’d like to be kind to Republicans who appear civil and who don’t harm me, but there are so few. If it takes the extremes of George W. to rile them, then they just aren’t very bright or maybe it’s just that their special interests aren’t getting enough earmarks.</p>
<p>Even during the Clinton administration there were a few and we were not served well by any of them.</p>
<p>Over the last 28 years there have been 5 Republican terms and it’s hard to name more than 2 or 3 things they have done  which benefited anyone but themselves. However, the list of their stupid, selfish, destructive, criminal activities is enough to fill volumes.</p>
<p>Even this evening on 60_Minutes they discussed the Credit Default Swaps and placed the blame squarely on Bill Clinton. How dare those bastards. They didn’t even mention Newt Gingrich and the Republican majority Congress for the entire story. They’re not quite Liberal for sure.</p>
<p>We need to lay out who did what and place blame. If Americans never get the story straight, then how can our politics go foward properly?</p>
<p>We need many things, but one is a new Dem 9/11 commission and for Bush &amp; Co to go to jail after he leaves office. If we can’t even do those kinds of things, then how can we say we’re ‘good or smart people’?</p>
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		<title>By: Spokane61</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokane61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have sent the following message to Senators Cantwell and Murray (my Washington senators)and to the DNC and Barack Obama. We must start taking action now to hold their feet to the fire.&lt;br /&gt;
“You are about to become the IN FACT party of power and will be held accountable to those of us who are putting you in that position. We expect that you will begin to behave in exactly that way. For now your ‘top three priorties would be: (1) prohibit the President from detaining alleged enemy combatants without accusation or charge; (2) prohibit the President from lying to Congress or the American people to elicit support for war; and, (3) prohibit the President from claiming executive privilege or state secrets to conceal information or testimony from Congress.’ We don’t give a damn that it will be Barack Obama in the office. Never again will we submit to a unitary executive.”&lt;br /&gt;
Internal quote from Firedoglake Book Salon 10-26-08&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sent the following message to Senators Cantwell and Murray (my Washington senators)and to the DNC and Barack Obama. We must start taking action now to hold their feet to the fire.<br />
“You are about to become the IN FACT party of power and will be held accountable to those of us who are putting you in that position. We expect that you will begin to behave in exactly that way. For now your ‘top three priorties would be: (1) prohibit the President from detaining alleged enemy combatants without accusation or charge; (2) prohibit the President from lying to Congress or the American people to elicit support for war; and, (3) prohibit the President from claiming executive privilege or state secrets to conceal information or testimony from Congress.’ We don’t give a damn that it will be Barack Obama in the office. Never again will we submit to a unitary executive.”<br />
Internal quote from Firedoglake Book Salon 10-26-08</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;True some of the powers will be kept, but a lot of the alleged powers are not actually real, and I simply don’t see a President Obama pushing back against the legal establishment, of which bruce is a proud example, as Bushco has.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just because Obama may not utilize the powers that Bush employed does not mean the precedent does not stand if legally challenged.  Another Republic President (or another Democratic one, for that matter) may decide to use those powers that Bush put into practice, and s/he may get away with it, since there is nothing left to say it’s illegal because no one has objected strenuously enough when it was used previously.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>True some of the powers will be kept, but a lot of the alleged powers are not actually real, and I simply don’t see a President Obama pushing back against the legal establishment, of which bruce is a proud example, as Bushco has.</p>
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<p>Just because Obama may not utilize the powers that Bush employed does not mean the precedent does not stand if legally challenged.  Another Republic President (or another Democratic one, for that matter) may decide to use those powers that Bush put into practice, and s/he may get away with it, since there is nothing left to say it’s illegal because no one has objected strenuously enough when it was used previously.</p>
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		<title>By: otchmoson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700455</link>
		<dc:creator>otchmoson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The FISA violations and impeachment were the first issues I encountered when introduced to the ‘Lake. I thank the skillful and informed contributors here for educating this uneducated person. Like some other commenters here, I was sadly disappointed when the FISA legislation failed, complete with Obama’s blessing. I was quite annoyed with him. But with such a slim majority in the Senate . . . and recognizing that he could do NOTHING if he did not win the Presidency, I gave him a pass (and my vote). Someone above acknowledged our ‘uneducated public’, and sadly, that is a significant part of the problem in reclaiming our Constitution. It is wondrous how vocal the electorate can be when economic matters threaten their welfare. They must be taught that equally perilous is the continued erosion of our Constitution for political purposes. If only Constitutional issues could be tied to economic matters, the electorate might more quickly be engaged. If the economy continues its downward spiral, and citizens recognize the power of our collective voice, perhaps media might spend a bit more ink or air-time educating us and empowering us . . . but certainly not media in its current incarnation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FISA violations and impeachment were the first issues I encountered when introduced to the ‘Lake. I thank the skillful and informed contributors here for educating this uneducated person. Like some other commenters here, I was sadly disappointed when the FISA legislation failed, complete with Obama’s blessing. I was quite annoyed with him. But with such a slim majority in the Senate . . . and recognizing that he could do NOTHING if he did not win the Presidency, I gave him a pass (and my vote). Someone above acknowledged our ‘uneducated public’, and sadly, that is a significant part of the problem in reclaiming our Constitution. It is wondrous how vocal the electorate can be when economic matters threaten their welfare. They must be taught that equally perilous is the continued erosion of our Constitution for political purposes. If only Constitutional issues could be tied to economic matters, the electorate might more quickly be engaged. If the economy continues its downward spiral, and citizens recognize the power of our collective voice, perhaps media might spend a bit more ink or air-time educating us and empowering us . . . but certainly not media in its current incarnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700453</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Glenn, thanks Bruce!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Glenn, thanks Bruce!</p>
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		<title>By: sophiehunter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700452</link>
		<dc:creator>sophiehunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you Bruce and everyone here for such an enlightening discussion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bruce and everyone here for such an enlightening discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700451</link>
		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama clearly explained and denounced signing statements to his audience in Kay’s youtube video link at comment #92. So there’s that one thing on record.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama clearly explained and denounced signing statements to his audience in Kay’s youtube video link at comment #92. So there’s that one thing on record.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/26/fdl-book-salon-bruce-fein/#comment-1700449</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fingers crossed, may you be right&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fingers crossed, may you be right</p>
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