One of the casualties of the financial crisis which has gotten little notice in the US is Icleand, and it went down in a particularly ugly fashion. Gordon Brown, the UK’s fantastically unpopular Prime Minister, said that Icelandic banks had threatened to not honor obligations to British account holders, so he declared Iceland a terrorist country and seized the banks assets. This caused the banks to go under and the Icelandic economy to implode to the extent that if Russia hadn’t sent them billions of dollars, they would have literally starved, since they need to import food.
Yes, they asked the US and their friends in the EU for money first, but apparently only Vladimir Putin cared enough about Iceland’s impending famine to do anything about it. It’s times like these when you find out who your friends are. I imagine the Icelanders are feeling a lot warmer towards Russia these days. Perhaps Putin would like a nice naval base there?
Leaving aside, for just a moment, the absurdity of labeling Iceland a terrorist country, the problem is this: Icelanders are saying "prove it" with respect to the allegation that they threatened to not honor account withdrawals, and so far Gordon Brown hasn’t come up with proof.
The thing about Icelandic banks is that they were offshore banks. As a friend of mine in the industry said "this is where the City sent stuff that was too dubious even for them". Iceland made money by doing the deals that were, not dirt exactly, but highly highly speculative and leveraged and in some cases shady. (People go to offshore havens to dodge taxes and keep money private, after all.) Which is to say, the Brits knew these banks were shaky, because they were an extension of the city. So odds are, they just decided to preemptively seize the assets and shut them down, without even giving them a chance (or help.) This is also why Icelanders paid almost no tax, and lived well for years, because huge amounts of money were going into the country. Laissez faire stupidity works when you’re an island with a small population and huge amounts of money churn from foreigners.
Back to the "terrorism" charge. The side effect of the terrorism charge for a country is that a lot of people don’t want to, or can’t do business with you. They know it’s a BS charge, but, legally, you are on the damn list. So not only is Iceland’s economy in free fall, but they’re now partially cut off from cutting deals and doing business.
The British terrorism law is, in this respect, no worse than the US one or those of many other countries. You get on these lists by administrative or executive fiat, there is no way off the lists except political intervention, the criteria is completely arbitrary and opaque. Sort of like the no-fly list in the US, for ordinary people.
These laws were never meant to be used this way, of course. Gordon Brown did something with the law that its writers would have never intended. But that’s the problem—when you give someone a power, they will use it as they see fit, to the widest extent they can. Such laws are extremely dangerous and both the UK and US have a large number of them: laws that allow the executive to hold anyone without charge, to go to war without a declaration of war, to spy on whoever they want without a court reviewing the decision, and so on.
These laws have been repeatedly used and abused, and they will continue to be so. They need to be repealed. No free peoples worthy of the name give such unrestricted power to anyone.
In the meantime, if you want to help the Icelanders, there is a petition you can sign asking Gordon Brown to rescind the declaration of terrorist status. Given that even the stupidest person on the planet knows they aren’t terrorists, it’s sort of the least he can do. Then he should step down as PM, he’s clearly been in government far, far too long.



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Frightening. What next.
Jesus, that was a titch heavy handed. No one could have forseen it might be an oppo for the Russians. The Coalition of the Deeply and Unremittingly Retarded soldiers on.
These clowns are worse than any of the so-called “organized crime” groups.
Unreal. What is this world coming too? srsly
My what a difference there is when you have a world leader who is smart, sly, and cunning like Putin than a dumb, sly, and cunning world leader like Bush. I have to admit, Putin is my favorite world leader because of his strength and the confidence he has restored of Russia to some of his people.
I’d like to point out that Iceland never received any money from Russia, the deal never came through.
Instead, they’ve received 6 billion USD in emergency funding through a joint agreement between the IMF, the other nordic countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland), and Japan.
We need to set up an IcelandPAC to raise it some money. Won’t the US & Britian look ridiculous if they came after us for being ‘terrorist sympathizers, aiders’ only for us to use the chance to show how it’s Bush & Brown who really are.
And to think that only a couple of weeks ago Gordon Brown was being sold as the savior of the world financial system. Oh well.
Now I am officially terrified – who could have imagined? Will Iceland now join that elite group known as the Axis of Evil? s/
“Ilargi: If there’s one reassuring light flickering in this collapsing tunnel, it must be that you have the courage and audacity to leave control of the rescue and repair of our economic systems in the hands of the same ass clowns who confidently led you into that tunnel.
That takes guts. Still, I’m not quite sure what the reasoning behind it is. People like Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson and Gordon Brown have either consistently missed out on a zillion signs that something was going awfully awry, or they have consistently lied to your face.
What makes you think that they will either start recognizing the $800 trillion gorilla now, or that they will all of a sudden begin to tell the truth? Wouldn’t it make sense to quiz them on what exactly it is they know about the matters at hand, and/or hook them up to a polygraph for a while?
Every single member of the power gang will tell everyone willing to listen that none of what is going wrong at the moment could have been foreseen. That is something we know to be a load of bull; yours truly, and many others, have been warning for years that it would come to this. Still, you leave the steering wheel in the hands of a rag tag bunch of incompetent liars. As I said, it’s brave, but I can’t figure out how it would be smart too.
And it’s of course not just on the level of governments, houses of representatives and central banks that insincere stupidity rules. Every citizen of the western world can be confident to have lost around 30% of their retirement savings at this point at the hand of fund managers. Every town, county and state is losing money fast. Not only through decreasing tax revenues, what’s likely to be an even harder blow are the losses through bad investments by fund managers.
The most ironic thing of all will be that while you lose your jobs and your homes, the ass clown gang will either keep theirs or leave with golden handshakes and huge retirement benefits. You might want to think about that, and you might want to stop taking it all lying down.
A large number of clowns knew very well what was going on, and did indeed foresee much of it. The rest are dumb followers. Letting that very group now handle the issues makes you a dumb follower too.
They are spending trillions of dollars of your money on schemes that are guaranteed to fail and misfire; if they had the capacities needed to solve the problems, then there would be no such problems in the first place. It’s either that, or they have intentionally designed and caused them. That’s the only two options there are.
It’s time to look at all the ass clowns through the prism of our legal systems, to hold them accountable for any and all intentional mismanagement of the public’s interests. If it turns out they are merely stupid and ignorant, you fire them, since you don’t want borderline cuckoos to manage your affairs. If they are not stupid, they’ve been lying, and should go to jail.
Start out by challenging the claims that none of the mayhem could have been foreseen; we know it could have been, because it was. Start with that, and then take it from there. That is what the judiciary branches of democratic societies are for, and if the laws of the land are not properly applied, there no longer is a democracy. It really is that simple.
Oh, and I have a little math question. The IMF has $200 billion in funds. It uses $2 billion on Iceland’s 300.000 citizens. Pakistan has 175 million people. What’s missing in this picture?
Seriously, though, the billions that will go to Pakistan are going to make life very hard over there. The IMF and World Bank mafia is taking over the entire control over the nation’s finances, in a version of economic martial law that looks all too familiar to those who know what happened in South America, Asia and Russia in the past five decades. Pakistan will become the new test lab for the disaster doctrine of the world’s top ass clowns. You have been warned.
U.S. has plundered world wealth, says Chinese paper
The United States has plundered global wealth by exploiting the dollar’s dominance, and the world urgently needs other currencies to take its place, a leading Chinese state newspaper said on Friday.
The front-page commentary in the overseas edition of the People’s Daily said that Asian and European countries should banish the U.S. dollar from their direct trade relations for a start, relying only on their own currencies. A meeting between Asian and European leaders, starting on Friday in Beijing, presented the perfect opportunity to begin building a new international financial order, the newspaper said.
The People’s Daily is the official newspaper of China’s ruling Communist Party. The Chinese-language overseas edition is a small circulation offshoot of the main paper. Its pronouncements do not necessarily directly voice leadership views. But the commentary, as well as recent comments, amount to a growing chorus of Chinese disdain for Washington’s economic policies and global financial dominance in the wake of the credit crisis.
“The grim reality has led people, amidst the panic, to realise that the United States has used the U.S. dollar’s hegemony to plunder the world’s wealth,” said the commentator, Shi Jianxun, a professor at Shanghai’s Tongji University. Shi, who has before been strident in his criticism of the U.S., said other countries had lost vast amounts of wealth because of the financial crisis, while Washington’s sole concern had been protecting its own interests.
“The U.S. dollar is losing people’s confidence. The world, acting democratically and lawfully through a global financial organisation, urgently needs to change the international monetary system based on U.S. global economic leadership and U.S. dollar dominance,” he wrote.
Shi suggested that all trade between Europe and Asia should be settled in euros, pounds, yen and yuan, though he did not explain how the Chinese currency could play such a role since it is not convertible on the capital account. A two-day Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) of 27 EU member states and 16 Asian countries was set to open on Friday. Though few analysts expect much in the way of concrete agreements, Shi said it could prove momentous.
“How can Europe and Asia grasp each other’s hands and together confront the once-in-a-century global financial crisis sparked by the U.S.; how can they construct a new equitable and safe international financial order?” he said. “The world is waiting for this Asian-European meeting to achieve big results in financial cooperation.” “
‘Afternoon, Ian;
By the time the Western ‘empires’, past and present, get ‘finished’ showing everybody else just how arrogant and stupid the Political Class can manage to be, then we must expect the rest of the world to not just be
thoroughly disgusted, but, perhaps, prepared to do ’something’ about ‘us’.
Just about now, any ‘friends’ we might have remaining will be treated as shabbily as possible.
Gordon resign? NO!, the Political Class, the lap dogs of the Ari$tocracy, will NEVER behave as ‘normal’ people. ‘They’ are above such things as shame, conscience and (Hah!) compassion …
Such creatures should never, ever, be allowed ‘real’ power.
When will the species learn?
Duh …
Ian…. is there a link to the petition?
Can’t seem to find it in the post….
Brown expands russsian sub fleet base…Offshore tax-free harbor exposed…
Paaulsen/Cox/Bernanke have competition for the financial terror clowns of world economy.
As massive leveraged bet piles are exposed for taking down thw worlds banks and destabilizing finanacial markets the vaults of central banks are raided by the perpertrators…Paaulsen/Cox/Bernanke.
Greenspan the overseer of the raid on the public treasuries is shocked! Hungry shoplifters are jailed for stealing food…food stamps were cut bt $30 billion a few years back and free market economics with the magic hand and trickle down has omce agin distanced the wealthy from the other 99% of the worlds population,
Iceland is thrown under the terrorist bus? The surreal unreality of western public policy challeges logic.
Time to bomb….Iceland?!
Christ, what’s next? The Vatican.
Just imagine, if Ford had not pardoned Nixon …
But then, we must’nt “crimminalize ‘poltical’ behavior”. Ain’t that ‘right’, Cass?
So?
How about if we DON’T ‘politicise’ CRIMMINAL behavior?
Call me un-American, but I am going with Iceland on this one. Whether this is Iceland versus greedy British Bankers or Iceland versus greedy International Bankers, we should be their allies in this war.
Íslandoterrorists
N-ice, Tortise.
One way or another we shell overcome.
Bush speaks…the people of the world listen…with their hands on their wallets.
Drat, left out an “O”, Tortoise …
;~D
Investors of the world unite!
b00m
Well, shucks, since we’re all cowboys (yee-haw!) and we’ve been beset by what once would have been considered the equivalent of horse-thieves (Imagine, you can all figure out just alla whom I’m a talkin’ ’bout …)
I reckon as how we might just need to consider a mite bit of western ‘justice’ would go a powerful long ways to, what’s that term?, oh yes, ‘deter’, that’s it. Yep some good ole western justice would go a long way towards ‘detering’ this kind of crap in the future.
Yep.
Send ‘em to bed without any supper.
sad but true.
Financial engineering, ya gotta luv it.
maybe the PD article cited above is a signal that the chinese are thinking about floating the yuan. in which case goodbye US economy. it’s been nice knowing you. maybe the Chinese will use our low wages to offshore some production our way…….
There are more and better reasons for bombing the Vatican.
This post has given me a great idea. We do what Blackwater does. We make a little private army and invade a certain country and capture all the banks. But it would be a Robin Hood heist, use the loot for solar energy. We invade The Caymans! We could get Icelanders to join our caper.
There is good evidence that Icelanders are terrorists!!! Click on this: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/71319/ and inform yourself!
Seriously, the shame of it all just makes me cringe.
Th 9th largest economy in the worlds, California has 7.9% unemployment going into the recession. We also produce a lot of the worlds food. Paulson and Bushco threw all our capital resources to shore up insolvent investment banks.
How will we shore up our economy as in main street business? That is why the Republicans are turning blue this election…they are left out in the cold while Wall Street is rescued.
America is a gambling addict. Real scary, Happy Halloween. This will be Jason’s nightmare for a decade. Uncouple the dollar from oil. Where has all the capital gone long time passing? They gave it to the banks and they are not loaning it out! No loan no growth just shrinking GNP with fewer jobs. Look at the Transpot sector on the Dow…dropped from 5,000 to under 3500. Big carriers have smaller deliveries. This would have been a good time for a stimulus package. They are always behind the curve with timing.
The Vatican have a fine collection of art that can be ransacked, and very few Swiss Guards
IIRC, Iceland can serve as a mid-ocean stop-over between Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela; no need for flying near the US and trouble.
Boy I hope that all this talk about bombing places and things is just a big joke.
Given how easily it is to be declared a terrorist these days, wouldn’t want the NSA (Hey guys! Howya doing?) or anyone thinking folks were serious about any of this.
EXCELLENT!!!
I think it’s fortuitous that the Crown has brought the War On Terror down to the level it so richly deserves, that of Monty Python’s Flying Circus absurdity.
Do you ALL get it now?
There is no War ON Terror.
There is a War OF Terror, and it’s funded by the Crown and her co-conspirators in the US and Israel.
You’d be hard-pressed to find a single individual in all of Iceland that could be defined as more of a terrorist than Karl Rove.
Just carve the “O” on my shell, DW.
For Obama.
Carefully though. I’d hate it to look like a “J” for McCain.
Iceland is a member of NATO.
If Britain attacks Iceland, I think the US is required to respond with nuclear weapons.
Who would have guessed that WWIII would be between the US and UK over Iceland?
Somehow we’ve gotten shunted into one of Tom Clancey’s less plausible novels.
So the RICO gang has gone AWRY again. Iceland is TERRORIST, NOT
Great post. What about hedge funds and Iceland. Too cozy?
Originally Iceland thought hte USA would bail them out
aHAHAHA
Ms ET is Icelandic-American. Should I start watching her more closely…?
In a perfect world, if a politician ever utters the word “terrorist” without incontrovertible proof, a automatic prison sentence of 10 years should be imposed within 24 hours of the word being used. No appeals, no good behavior.
yes, don’t let her out of your sight, you never know
As an Englishwoman, I am disgusted with my government – Ok, I’ve been disgusted with them since the British Bulldog turned into Bush’s poodle, but now I’m even more disgusted/pissed off with them. Bloody Idiots…
You know, it just occurred to me.
It’s all worse than we think.
I mean, we’re horrified by what we know, let alone (as that great wordsmith Rumsfeld taught us) the “unknown unknowns”.
It is hard to take my eyes off of here, most of the time. Icelandic women are the most beautiful terrorists in the world.
It’s Iceland’s own mess.
terra!
Book Salon upstairs. Teen Sex!
From the guardian item:
;~D
I lived in Iceland during the late 70’s and early 80’s. It’s a beautiful country with wonderful people. While I was there, they had to devalue the kroner; they took two zeroes off making 100 kroner 1. It is the most literate country in the world. Each citizen can speak and read multiple languages. I complimented an Icelander about that and he told me, “Yes, but the farmer cannot distinguish one cow from another.” They deserve better than this.
I am shocked at the language! You talk like Chris Hitchens America’s newest DFH.
I don’t know about their relationship with Iceland, but if Congress doesn’t wake up real soon, these goddamn hedge funds are gonna take us all down with them.
I suspect all the madness that happened Friday, here and overseas, was primarily driven by them.
Sure, some of it has to do with what you were told — a slowing economy.
But we’ve known the economy’s been slowing for the last year; we’ve been losing jobs for each of the last 9 months. So all of a sudden, after an already crappy month, everyone realized we’re heading for a recession?
Hardly.
It’s far more likely these bastards know the sunlight of long overdue regulation is on it’s way, but since it’s coming from that tortoise known as Congress, it’s plenty of time to steal a lot more money by shorting every stock you can get you hands on before the cop shows up on the beat.
Fear rules the day, and so shorting stock (betting on the price to go down) in this environment is almost a no lose proposition.
This would be like thieves in a jewelry store being told the cops were coming, but the cop in question was that shuffling character Tim Conway used to play on the Carol Burnett show, and he’s a couple of miles away.
So there’s plenty of time to clean those jewelry cases out before leaving.
Yeah.
They must’ve studied under all the thieves in the various ‘risk management’ departments of all the failed US investment banks and brokerages.
“Thieves” because how on earth can they say with a straight face that they actually earned a dime of what they were paid?
Same goes for the joke known as Boards of Directors.
we’re all Icelanders now.
Cool.
And true.
;~D
So?
We are now ALL on the nordic trac(k).
Good thing the ‘Northwest Passage’ will avail “commerce”, otherwise we’d have to go the long way around/s.
;~D
I suspect that some of the “terrorist” designation was a legacy of the Cod Wars between Iceland and the UK from the 50s to the 70s, when Iceland declared an exclusive economic zone off its shores, resulting in the devastation of the already reeling British fishing industry. The Icelanders stood very hard against British pressure, engaged British naval vessels, and threatened to close a NATO naval base at the height of the Cold War. The fishery was the base of Iceland’s economy before the banking expansion and I suspect that British thought that the Icelanders were very capable of playing hardball again in the event of a standoff.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..risis.html
The Iceland banks also had a significant presence and expertise in financing fishing enterprises, and the collapse has placed some strain on some Canadian fishing companies, who are looking for other sources of trade financing.
From a link posted above, “This prompted Darling and Brown to invoke the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 to protect UK taxpayers.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm…..editcrunch
I suspect this could be a case study in anti-terror laws overreaching.
Agreed, we could “all be Icelanders” someday in this financial and political environment.
That is really funny ;)
Excellent, SanderO. I deduce from your statements that you have read the 2 books by John Perkins: Confessions of An Economic Hit Man @2004 and the sequel, The Secret History of the American Empire @2007.
It seems to me that Bush/Paulson have just about accomplished the economic take-over of America. Per the former Economic Hit Man the pattern was:
(1) send in the EHMs to bribe, coerce, deceive a country into debtedness to IMF which is 51% owned/controlled by USA; (2) if EHM fail, send in the Jackals to assassinate those who oppose the grand schemes; (3) if Jackals fail, send in US Military (as in Iraq).
Is Bush’s executive order about a year ago which gave him authority to declare martial law the equivalent of # (3) ??
I don’t think we’ve seen the end of Bush’s dirty tricks yet.
I would really appreciate your thoughts about this scenario.
Milton Friedman in the 70’s or 80’s went on a lecture tour of Iceland preaching the religion of unregulated free market. Those lectures created an entire generation in Iceland that bought into Friedman’s smoke and mirrors economics. They began electing conservative politicians that spread the good word. Iceland did not choose wisely.
Some of this isn’t right. Russia promised a loan of 4 or 5 B$ two weekls ago, then said maybe not. The IMF is dickering with Iceland now and Norway appears to be giving the country some money so it remains to be seen how much Russia will be involved. I’m not sure what “almost no tax” means. Icelanders did and do pay taxes. But you are right on the misuse of terrorist legislation.
Should Brits have known the Icelandic banks were dodgy? Oh, yes. Iceland kept raising interest rates to drag in more cash until they were at obviously unsustainable levels — that was the sign that the Ponzi scheme was coming to an end. So why did British Councils, pension funds, police forces, and the National Health continue to put their funds at risk? Greed. Stupidity. Follow-the-leader thinking. (And long ago Mom said, “If all your friends jumped off the bridge, would you follow?” “Of course not, Mom”, I answered, wide-eyed.)
Ah, my bad, behind the times. Though I expect the deal didn’t come through because once Putin offered 6 billion the others realized they’d better do something.
They had a flat tax regime. Flat tax regimes are like flat earth regimes.
John Kerry said we should work with other nations around the globe.
George Bush said that was unAmerican and proceeded to lead us to this dismal situation where they are simply going to decide our fate without consulting us.
Barack Obama will have to work hard at getting things back on track.
I wonder if Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist and what’s her name feel bad for putting us in this position?
Apparently they have yet to learn how to put lipstick on some of their cows.
Just when you think the absurdity of our modern times is calming down…
kewl