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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696951</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rachel reports that Karl thinks Obama is tanking the DOW.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do they somehow claim Obama changed laws a decade ago to put us in this mess and that all he has to do is snap his fingers and it’ll go back up? What a crazy time we live in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even with all the things government is doing to fix the situation, and that’s not insignificant, I still wonder if there’s any possible solution short of getting all the toxic assets off the market; that’s a huge problem since they’re fractured and distributed worldwide. If it’s not really possible it means someone set this up to leave the next administration with a Japan-like decade-long recession — intentionally!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This goes a little beyond what would traditionally be called hardball politics. This is more than just a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. This is really really huge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s the deal?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush himself said (after announcing he had canned KKKarl) they’d probably all be put in jail. I suspect he knew what he was talking about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, aside from just determining what happened, identifying the perps and perhaps jailing a bunch, there’s still the major problem of Reality to deal with. People are losing homes, retirement savings and perhaps any feelings of security and stability they have worked their entire lives for. It’s a little more serious than someone spray-painting graffiti.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a sense it’s all ridiculous kabuki. I mean, it shows Republicans to be petty, somewhat fascist, incompetent, vile and all the things we’ve said about them for years. OTOH, Republicans want to show Democrats are socialists, can’t govern, don’t understand Freedom, aren’t Patriotic, etc. But, it’s ridiculous because the public gets all those arguments and either believes or doesn’t. What’s going on doesn’t change any of that. This situation is very much kabuki, but to some end. What?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it merely creative destruction on a massive scale?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats need to think very much outside of the box to get the whole picture to see the dynamic and where Republicans and their friends want this to go. It is, after all, global in nature and not just election politics (as if Bushies care about McCain or this election outcome) or simply financial theft.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rachel reports that Karl thinks Obama is tanking the DOW.</p>
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<p>Do they somehow claim Obama changed laws a decade ago to put us in this mess and that all he has to do is snap his fingers and it’ll go back up? What a crazy time we live in.</p>
<p>Even with all the things government is doing to fix the situation, and that’s not insignificant, I still wonder if there’s any possible solution short of getting all the toxic assets off the market; that’s a huge problem since they’re fractured and distributed worldwide. If it’s not really possible it means someone set this up to leave the next administration with a Japan-like decade-long recession — intentionally!</p>
<p>This goes a little beyond what would traditionally be called hardball politics. This is more than just a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. This is really really huge.</p>
<p>What’s the deal?</p>
<p>Bush himself said (after announcing he had canned KKKarl) they’d probably all be put in jail. I suspect he knew what he was talking about.</p>
<p>However, aside from just determining what happened, identifying the perps and perhaps jailing a bunch, there’s still the major problem of Reality to deal with. People are losing homes, retirement savings and perhaps any feelings of security and stability they have worked their entire lives for. It’s a little more serious than someone spray-painting graffiti.</p>
<p>In a sense it’s all ridiculous kabuki. I mean, it shows Republicans to be petty, somewhat fascist, incompetent, vile and all the things we’ve said about them for years. OTOH, Republicans want to show Democrats are socialists, can’t govern, don’t understand Freedom, aren’t Patriotic, etc. But, it’s ridiculous because the public gets all those arguments and either believes or doesn’t. What’s going on doesn’t change any of that. This situation is very much kabuki, but to some end. What?</p>
<p>Is it merely creative destruction on a massive scale?</p>
<p>Democrats need to think very much outside of the box to get the whole picture to see the dynamic and where Republicans and their friends want this to go. It is, after all, global in nature and not just election politics (as if Bushies care about McCain or this election outcome) or simply financial theft.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696540</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know, way epu-ed, but PW if you’re hereabouts, how ’bout that Arne Carlson.  Woo-hoo!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Barbara, we’re thinking of ya, there will be a brighter tomorrow….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, way epu-ed, but PW if you’re hereabouts, how ’bout that Arne Carlson.  Woo-hoo!</p>
<p>And Barbara, we’re thinking of ya, there will be a brighter tomorrow….</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696529</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LaHammer, if she named her children like Sarah Palin does there’d be a Ballpeen and Claw.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Round up the obvious suspects…the Judaean People’s Front, the Judaean Popular People’s Front, and the People’s Front of Judaea.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaHammer, if she named her children like Sarah Palin does there’d be a Ballpeen and Claw.</p>
<p>Round up the obvious suspects…the Judaean People’s Front, the Judaean Popular People’s Front, and the People’s Front of Judaea.</p>
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		<title>By: joel6653</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696521</link>
		<dc:creator>joel6653</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is “TPT” ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is “TPT” ?</p>
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		<title>By: wakeupUSA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696510</link>
		<dc:creator>wakeupUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh LaHammer - careful or you might be nominated at:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buttheadpolice.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.buttheadpolice.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;like McCain and Palin, to get a butt stamped on your head. LOL.  Great site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh LaHammer &#8211; careful or you might be nominated at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buttheadpolice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.buttheadpolice.com</a></p>
<p>like McCain and Palin, to get a butt stamped on your head. LOL.  Great site.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696507</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One person, one vote gives no grace for minority rights. Want to avoid the tyranny of the majority as well as the tyranny of the minority. Tricky business with no easy answers. If you don’t believe me, think of the problems associated with the Arab Sunnis in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lani Guinier wanted to do cumulative voting, but I saw that vastly abused in my NYC coop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I said, difficult problem. No easy solutions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One person, one vote gives no grace for minority rights. Want to avoid the tyranny of the majority as well as the tyranny of the minority. Tricky business with no easy answers. If you don’t believe me, think of the problems associated with the Arab Sunnis in Iraq.</p>
<p>Lani Guinier wanted to do cumulative voting, but I saw that vastly abused in my NYC coop.</p>
<p>As I said, difficult problem. No easy solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696501</link>
		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Electoral college drop-out?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t remember going to that college.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Course, I don’t remember much about the colleges I did go to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever they were…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Electoral college drop-out?</i></p>
<p>I don’t remember going to that college.</p>
<p>‘Course, I don’t remember much about the colleges I did go to.</p>
<p>Whatever they were…</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696496</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Haven’t thought about how that would effect minority rights, however.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One person, one vote.  Get rid of electronic machines without paper trails, so there is a copy of my vote printed out for me, and a copy of my vote stuffed into a locked box if needed for a recount.  It seems frightfully simple, assuming, of course, that the allocation of voting machines is based upon population not race…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Haven’t thought about how that would effect minority rights, however.</p>
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<p>One person, one vote.  Get rid of electronic machines without paper trails, so there is a copy of my vote printed out for me, and a copy of my vote stuffed into a locked box if needed for a recount.  It seems frightfully simple, assuming, of course, that the allocation of voting machines is based upon population not race…</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696495</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, not even gentleman’s Cs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, not even gentleman’s Cs.</p>
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		<title>By: ratfood</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/23/its-lahammer-time/#comment-1696493</link>
		<dc:creator>ratfood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Electoral college drop-out?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electoral college drop-out?</p>
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