The 2008 Presidential election will mark a turning point in American politics: turning back the clock to 1950, that is. Opportunistic, nativist ignorati like Michele Bachmann and Robin Hayes channel Joe McCarthy at his most inflammatory and dangerous, as they demand investigations to "ferret out" godless, America-hating liberals who are "inciting class warfare" against all the helpless Joe the Plumbers cowering behind their backsplashes.
And while the McCain campaign and its surrogates, like the obnoxious, retrograde Rush Limbaugh, lace their propaganda with poisonous, racist bombast, their increasingly agitated crowds are taking matters into their own hands. It was horrifying enough when neither McCain nor Palin challenged their audiences who yelled in response to their Obama taunts: "Kill him!" or "Off with his head!" The McCain campaign insisted that those are just harmless words shouted by red-blooded patriots. No harm, no foul. Right?
Then explain the pigeon-chested bigot proudly hanging an effigy of Obama in his front yard, complete with Star of David painted on its head (Muslim, Jew . . . whatever)? Explain why an African-American restaurateur and Obama supporter came to work to find vandals had painted swastikas, "White Power", "N----R", and "Vote MaKain" on his building.
Yesterday, North Carolina voters lining up to cast their ballots early were heckled and harrassed by McCain protesters outside the polling station. The protesters shouted such self-unaware gems as "Sundays are for church, not voting!" [As Eli noted in email, "I like how they skipped church to heckle voters for skipping church."]
Pam Spaulding reported this morning that"someone slashed the tires of at least 30 vehicles parked outside the Crown Coliseum on Sunday during a rally for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama."
CULLOWHEE – A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.
Maintenance workers reported about 7:45 a.m. finding a 75-pound bear cub dumped at the roundabout near the Catamount statute at the entrance to campus, said Tom Johnson, chief of university police.
“It looked like it had been shot in the head as best we can tell. A couple of Obama campaign signs had been stapled together and stuck over its head,” Johnson said.
A bear cub. A BLACK bear cub. Jesus Ignatius Christ, how much more anger is the McCain camp willing to foster before this behavior manifests itself in even greater carnage? Will John McCain still whimper that he is being unfairly likened to George Wallace because he cannot control his lizard-brained followers nowthat he's set them afire?
Or will he finally embrace the monstrous Balrog that he, his running mate, and his campaign have unleashed on the rest of America?
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*sigh*
Just reminds me that people like me aren’t wanted in certain parts of my own country
How can you not understand that these presidential campaign problems are all Obama’s fault: he wouldn’t go to the townhall meeting type debates, he’s a college graduate who did well in college so he is elitist, and he has the audacity to be uppity. He and all of his supporters deserve all of the harassment that they get.
Digg
I worry that someone is going to lose their life over this bullshit
This is going to get a whole lot uglier before it is over. Indeed, I expect that the worst will come after Obama is elected. I really do think that there will be at least random acts of violence against people and that blood will be shed. These people are absolutely deranged, organized, and dangerous.
agree.
doing well in school doesn’t make him elitist. bailing out wall street though, does.
Any similarity between these wingnuts and the beloved Balrog who frequents the Lake (or WeeRog or any of the other members of their clan) is purely coincidental. I’m sure no offense is intended toward our Balrog.
*g*
Oh, my. Bears. Of all the wonderful, troublesome animals to pull into their frenzy, why pick on bears?
Perhaps Stephen Colbert, who often features bears during his “Threat-Down,” could be induced to discuss this outrage.
Bears. Oh, my.
It’s not certain parts - it’s certain people. You’ll notice that this is happening in various states. McC has a lot to answer for and he will, I have no doubt about that.
those sick fucks had better keep one eye open in case mama bear finds ‘em.
judas priest - are all black animals now at risk from the hate talk express?
The days of Bull Connor and the KKK revisited.
Well, to be fair — black goats have had a lot to fear from them for some time.
Oh, please. We are talking about acts of hate - not Wall Street right now.
true. just wonder what we did for people to hate people of color. *sigh*
These people (Christianists and white supremacists) are the greatest terrorist threat facing America today (and have been for more than 20 years), but the Bush (mal)administration ignores them (they are the “base” after all). Remember Oklahoma City and Atlanta? All the Abortion clinics bombed? The doctors assassinated? McCain has empowered them at a time when they are already worked up about the prospect of a black Democrat in the White House. This is going to get very ugly and nothing short of concerted police action will stop it.
I wonder what the reaction of the United States Secret Service has been to this little episode. I wish them luck in tracking down the folks who killed the bear.
Between the state game wardens, the US Forest Service rangers, and the Secret Service, I don’t know who would be more upset with this.
Can I say I hope mama bear finds ‘em without gettin’ me knuckles smacked.
They never went away, they just went underground. And they are everywhere.
watertiger,
You are right that I don’t think there is anything that the McCain campaign can legally do to stem the tide of the Obama revolution. That is good news for the country, but bad news for McCain.
I cried over this for hours. I just don’t understand killing an animal and a baby animal at that. You don’t want us brown folks or guilty white folks to vote, okay I get it…but i’m still voting asshole
They know they have lost their grip. Death throes are ugly.
it has gotten close….. Man shot three times in street by racist gunman - for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt
Yes it was London but violence is violence……
I agree DrDick…… I’m afraid it will have to be something horrific to wake up America to the bilge that the McCain campaign is spreading…… AND McCain should be charged as accessory to any crime……
indeed
As the old expression goes, don’t get mad, get even. The best way to do that is to elect Obama. Then turn the full force of the law against them.
I would like to associate myself with your comment
i think it’s them, not you.
Thanks for the title of your piece and for affirming the power and spirit of hope to keep on/persevere and thanks for including the photo (Little Rock, as I recall) to affirm the dignity and courage in the struggle.
I voted today and the atmosphere was very upbeat. It was truly a joy and affirmation to cast my vote. We shall overcome, if I may borrow the phrase.
It’s about the mindset of the haters, not about what those they hate did.
lol, you crack me up.
I’m all for that. It’s what we have been working for but everyday it just gets worse. the world is watching us and I am passed emabarassed and horrified
I will third the motion. Might even loan y’all a contingent of Montana grizzlies for the cause.
No, the “new” John McCain will not be able to embrace that Balrog, he’s going to be blaming everyone else around him for waking it up in the depths of Moria.
The worst part is Sarah Palin is going to be like Sauron driven to Mirkwood; she’ll be doing mischief for years to come, perhaps even rising to power at some level before being overthrown by either her hubris or a cooperative hobbit.
Okay, I’m pissed. Look, people, I’ve just had to cope with eight fucking years of a president I despise. At no point have I hung him in effigy. I have not harassed his supporters. I have slashed no tires. I have killed no animals. I have issued no threats.
And you know what, Republicans? I EXPECT EXACTLY THE SAME BEHAVIOR FROM YOU.
Calm down or go to jail, people. I don’t much care which.
if they are lucky, the us fish and wildlife service will find them before mama bear does.
if they are lucky
Unfortunately coinciding with an economic downturn. Always nice to have a scapegoat.
((selise)) I know but it hurts just the same
true wise one *g*
oooh yeah saw sone of thise when we were at yellowstone. beautiful. but don’t mess with momma bears
Somewhere, Scooter Libby is shaking his fist in anger.
I would like to associate myself with your comment as well *g*
Unfortunately, because I follow this shit professionally, I am not even the least bit surprised, either at what McCain is doing or at the response. Racism and intolerance for difference have been integral to Republican Presidential campaigns since Nixon, but this is absolutely the worst I have ever seen.
((wobblybits))
fuck them. i’d say they’re not worth it if it would help.
Bush has really dragged this country backwards four generations. That’s probably his biggest accomplishment. One gigantic rerun.
We can call it a petition if you want….
Ah’m jus’ sayin’ — props to the Daily Show for once again giving more pertinent on-the-scene in-depth news reporting than all the tireswing media combined. Salut, Jason.
worse huh? oh dear. they have really opnened a pandora’s box and they aren’t going to be able to control it (hell they can’t control it now). This is on all their hands.
Almost a ton of pure mean and ornery that can run 40 miles an hour and take down a grown elk. You do not mess with those. Ever.
great comment. I’ll sign it.
just knowing that most of us don’t feel that way is enough to give me lots and lots of (wait for it…)
HOPE
i worry that it will be worse in 4 year.
my guess is that it will depend upon the economy - but if it’s as bad as being predicted, then the scapgoating we’ve see so far could be small potatoes.
imo, we need to be thinking and planning now for how to head that off.
If the federal government actually enforced the laws it has on the books, the bankers would be in jail, we wouldn’t be $700 billion more in debt, and people who do this kind of hate speech would be right along with them. It’s not my America.
Yep.
are you watching the “new one” for tonight? we get a rerun of the previous nights at 8:00 and then the “new one” at 11:00 which is usually too late for moi.
Just four generations? I was thinking more like halfway towards the 12th century so worshipped by the smalltownwonderfullittlepocketsofpatrioticproamerica.
I’m glad but this is serious stuff and it needs to be talked about. Obama is in danger every day and it is terrible. You just cannot resist saying something disparaging about him. Please not today. Have some compassion for his family and for those who have been harmed by the haters.
cool I’ll happily sign
I read the story earlier and the campus police chief was very pissed off about the bear cub. I would the state game wardens will be even more pissed. We have laws and they must work so while i Like the Montana griz scenerio let the animals lovers of North Carolina get on their case.
McCain/Palin give cover to the facsist right wingnuts and to deny responsiility shows that they have no leadership ablilities. They have lost control.
DrDick, how might this play in MT? From my days in Wyoming, everyone to the left of Dick Cheney that I knew there (which is to say, the rest of the state) would be upset with this story.
I’ve been watching the MT race at Pollster.com, where they have Obama 3.7 points back in their trend estimate, as the state has moved from McCain’s column into the “toss-up” category. With both Baucus and Schweitzer firmly in control of their races, what’s your take on Obama’s chances of taking MT?
me too.
(it may surprise you, but i’m a big fan of hope *g*)
do we start calling each other commrades now?
Yep. Those folks don’t take kindly to killing bear cubs. I said earlier that I think they’re very young, won’t be able to keep their mouths shut and will get nailed shortly.
Not to be a spoiler, but TDS rocks tonight!
22 years ago on September 26 my two children arrived from Korea to join my family….They were kids who were orphaned…… and from the time I saw them for the first time they stole my heart…… I was blessed with great kids…… they grew into wonderful adults….. the youngest will graduate from ASU in December…… BUT I am afraid…… did I bring them here to experience this hate?
My wish for the Obama Presidency was to have a more inclusive society….. that people would see everyone for who they are NOT what they are…… I fear that Sheriff Joe will target my kids for driving while brown….. I fear that some racist congressperson will write some law that will deny my grandchildren their birthright citizenship because they are trying to deny anchor babies citizenship…….
not surprised at all. you wouldn’t be here day in and day out if you weren’t a hope addict *g*
new one — it’s five stars.
I am hoping that one of the first moves of an Obama administration is to sic the FBI on shutting these people down STAT. If you really want to curl your hair go over to Dave Neiwert’s place and red through his archives. These people are organized, armed, and crazy.
Jo Fish !
TDS rocks every night … *g*
OK “that one” is
1. democrat
2. community organizer
3. lawyer
4. lefty
5. socialist
6. terrorist
7. muslim
8. boogeyman or at least a man that can boogie
9. black
10. anti American
did I miss any neener neener names/labels?
I knew when Obama announced he was running that if he got the nomination there would be racists crawling out of the woodwork. I had hoped that when it happened it might be cathartic in a way, easier to exorcise those demons from our national psyche once they’re out in the open. At this point however, I am not confident anything positive will result.
I’ve seen ‘em in the wild. Scare me and I’m fearless.
(((katymine)))
There are more of us than them. Remember that.
Hell of thing to say about lizards!
OK. Last Rasmussen has McCain up 1 in FL after Barack was up about 7 a few weeks ago. Got back from the Barack/Hillary rally in Orlando a little while ago. Huge crowd. Early voting is crowded. we’ll see. the enthusiasm was great. what a psyched bunch. but the polling trend is not good.
Lenin and Trotsky would like that.
Comrades, lend me yer ears.
*whap*
Wassat?
Sack fulla ears.
I remember when driving to Missoula over from Seattle. Places not to linger at for too long included:
Spokane (okay not too abd)
Couer d’ Alen (drive quickly…)
rofl
if i write something that is untrue, please call me on it.
if i write something that contributes to the danger obama, or anyone else is in, please call me on that too.
if i attack anyone here with personal remarks, please call me on that also.
but i’m not going to pretend i see the world differently than the way i actually do see it.
and the way i see it is that people are going to die because of the economic decisions that are being made now. not people who’s stories will be told, not people we will discuss here. but real people, who’s lives and loves and dreams and yes, hopes, matter every bit as much as obama’s do.
That’s right, I think, and there is hope for the most part that the worst and meanest element may be old and dying off. The young are generally more open and accepting. The trend will favor open diversity, but that does not mean no ugly resistance along the way. Where does such hate come from? Obama represents the best of so much: intelligence, temperament, promise, achievement. No wonder they are jealous.
We are changing things here gradually. Schweitzer and Tester have made huge inroads (the number one and number 3 most popular politicians in the state). Unfortunately, we still have lots of reflexive wingnuts, as well as far too many of the black helicopter crowd. There are lots of militia types and others who are part of this movement we are talking about (mostly moved here to get away from the nonwhite folks). Here in Missoula (Moscow on the Clark Fork as much of the state would have it) there is considerable outrage over this, but I do not know about elsewhere. No real play in the local press.
Petro! Wazzup? :-)
hey SoDrag, it was a great time today in Orlando. I figure if Obama can bring this craphole to life after 6:00 he can do anything. But it was great to see people actually out in downtown Orlando at night.
I don’t know what Rasmussen poll you’re looking at, or what trends, but Pollster.com tracks every public poll that they can get their hands on, and they show FL leaning toward Obama (+4.2), up from a dead heat a couple of weeks ago, and continuing to move in Obama’s direction.
i know. and not just in the subculture that dave writes about. but i agree, when the law is broken, the fbi needs to go after them. but not by using police state tactics - that will just make the problem worse.
Well said.
you can’t tell me his cafe latte skin colour doesn’t make some of those melanin challenged people green with envy
Not to quibble, but the stories and lives that are present here are, uh, real people whose lives and dreams matter very much. I maybe misunderstood the remark…but real people, please.
I live about 30 miles from the largest concentration in the lower 48 and like to go camping in their mountains. They are the reason I own a .41 magnum. I never want to have to use it. I am not sure I would survive the encounter.
nuttin’ much … you ?
Couer d’Alene itself is not to bad, but do not go north to Sandpoint. That is deep racist militia country.
I’m glad you are thinking of those people, but Obama is leaving on Thursday to go to Hawaii because apparently his grandmother is dying. That matters right now. He’s not perfect by any means but he is a human being with a family. He is just one, that’s all. Could you do better? If so, then run.
It has to be…He was spectacular at the dinner where he told stories for the crowd…georgeous and smart and wow. You bet.
I posted some pics that an attendee took in Tampa earlier today but I don’t watch the local news so I don’t know how much coverage it got.
TexBetsy has a friend who’s car got trashed in Texas. Someone(s) didn’t like the Obama sticker. photos
Republicans are the barbarians.
It is one of the reasons my father got out of working for the state Game & Fish…. he said that on a whole you can guarantee that if he was checking someone out hunting or even fishing, they would be armed……. The risk was too great……. and then they seem to add alcohol to the mix….
-sigh- laughing at TDS. Voted today. For McCain. Kidding. Much, very much. But I did vote today. Bob Barr. Kidding. Again.
Vote early. Not often!!
marxist
I always carried a .444 Marlin cuz I figured anything smaller and I was toast.
this was about 10 years ago and yeah Sandpoint (i was the only brown one inthe car) but it was dark and my green eyes fooled them *g*
In the ’70s my brother-in-law was with the Fish and Wildlife Service in Wyoming. The conventional wisdom was that the slowest bear is faster than the fastest man. It would also require a perfect shot to stop one, which is pretty unlikely if they’re charging. Be certain to employ safe camping strategies, i.e. don’t dress up like a giant rib-eye and taunt the bears.
There are reasons I gave up hunting decades ago and they have nothing to do with converting a vegetarianism.
No, that’s me. 8-)
Today´s Rasmussen. But they said at the rally today that we had more people early vote today in this county than in all of the early vote period in 2004. i hope that turnout is good for us.
dugg
Here it is bedtime again. What did Anne Frank say about “In my heart I believe people are basically good?” I really appreciate the conversation with you folks. I really want to celebrate the Obama era….Holding on. Good night.
Big Bill Thompson would like a word with you.
So that’s what I was doing wrong!
The .41 is the lightest round that can do the job. I like it because it doesn’t kick and you can get off a second shot (if it takes 3 your toast).
Night, RB.
boa noite revbev
Namaste, RevBev.
Ms. Huffington points out the obvious (unless you are a Republican): The Internet and the Death Of Rovian Politics
Just ask Bachmann in Minnesota.
lol
Hang your food high up and away from the tents and dump trash at least a hundred yards from camp. Yeah that is essential skill here. Black bears are far more numerous and just as dangerous when you are camping.
Not to mention Mayor Daley the elder.
Some of the worst injuries that I took care of in the ICU were from hunting…… the one where the guys handgun falls out of the holster when he undid his pants to go to the bathroom, when the gun hit the ground it discharged and hit the guy in the groin…..
Or the one where the wound track when from lower calf to hip……. still not sure how that one happened ……. or the being shot by mistake even wearing ORANGE….. or the guy who broke his back falling out of a deer stand (ya no safety belt)….. or the guy who shot his big toe off because he got so excited by the game that ran by the guy forgot to aim before he shot it…..
I missed the 11 p.m. show, will Tivo the 1 a.m. repeat.
We had our vote last week … forced to choose between a Putz and a nerd … held my nose and voted for the nerd, who was soundly beaten by the Putz …
Night, Rev.
cool. a few people played hooky today. well, in the afternoon. and we were too late. people were lining up in the morning, we got on line about 3. got no place near the stage. couldn´t even see the stage. watched on a Jumbotron. it was great!
I still think there is something going wrong technologically with FDL. On my computer, the boxes on the right side of the page (grit tv, toolbox, fdl action, blogroll) overlap with the main text that is on the left side and center of the page. I have cleared my cache and restarted my computer. I do not have this problem on any of the FDL-connected sites at the top of the page–emptywheel, tbogg, oxdown, etc.–even though they have formats similar to FDL. I am on Internet Explorer on a Dell PC with Windows 2000. I do not have this problem on Firefox. Just reporting it here for the information of the technical staff. I’m switching to Firefox now.
Now is the time to keep the faith. Keep the faith in Obama, in ourselves. Always keeping in mind the reason Obama speaks to our better angels. Understanding that the ugliness that has reigned over the last many years was not going to go quietly into the night. Channel Ghandi. Peaceful yet resolute strength. Speak out and be heard. Write to your newspapers. E-mail cable news. E-mail your Congresscritters and Senators. Take comfort in our truth and each other. Don’t let this ugliness go unnoticed. But most importantly, we cannot be ugly in return. I say the “we” for the greater world around us.
Holy Crap, Eric Schmidt said something intelligent? Wow. Where were all those smarts when he was running Novell into the ground?
have you bumped up your text size - i’ve had that happen when i’ve made the text too big
try control - and see if that helps
try decreasing your typeface size
This is all the repressed ugliness that got shoved down rather than dealt with thirty-odd years ago. Now it’s being brought back to the surface, and we must stay cool in the face of it — if for no other reason than we get style points for doing so.
Dr. Pepper, Suz?
i´m beat people. it´s October but we still got sun in FL and I spent many hours on my feet standing in it today. it was worth it, but i´m still beat. see yuz tomorrow. i´m voting. i´ll let yuz know how that goes.
coffee newton - but ya can make it an irish coffee if ya want - tis a chilly damp night tonight
Night, BFL. With any luck Obama take Florida and Montana.
*rummages for Bushmills™*
g’nite bfl and any other leaving sleepy pup i may have missed
Yup. The initial airing of her remarks on Hardball had minimal impact on its own. It was the wave of outrage that led folks with Tivos to nab the thing and post it and point it out to everyone they knew. And all who saw it, as one, had the exact same thought: “Who is her opponent, and how can I donate to him?”
Spanish coffee for ya, Suz
We can blame all the hate that McCain is spewing on Arizona…….
we have Sheriff Joe to targets anything and everything brown…….. JD Hayworth who spews the same hate and more and now is on a 50,000 watt drive time radio station to amplify it all… then there is State Rep Russel Pierce who writes ballot measures to penalize anyone and everything that might be an undocumented person AND all their relatives even if they are LEGAL citizens…..
In Imnaha, OR we had bow hunters shooting each other but the majority of injuries were rattlesnake bites. The city slickers never could learn not to lean on fallen trees where the little darlin’s like to sun. Hand, forearm and upper arm. They’d heard so many stories they were scared to death they were gonna die.
ooooh, kaluha and bacardi - nice thanks petro
Nope. Arizona did not create this in McCain, he was born to it. He just felt right at home in Arizona.
This’ll warn you up too … *g*
Lids are tryin’ to check for light leaks on their own.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
((wobbs))
I voted early today, and there were a lot of people there earlier. The board of elections workers looked frazzled. We will get through this.
Night, SD. May the force be with you.
naw, i’m just a consultant now
g’ntie sd
Namaste SD !
ROFL
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo SD.
hi sophiehunter - what does that mean?
I do not think I have increased my text size, and I do not know how to do that. I do not see a control on my IE toolbar for that purpose.
boa noite BFL
McCain should be shunned like the diseased cretin he has become once this election is over.
No more jokey backslapping with this man who’s willing to divide the nation so cavalierly.
-G
the control key on your keyboard.. plus the minus key on your keyboard
oh yum
This is not something he has become, it is simply what he has always been revealed. Read the Rolling Stone profile.
boa noite SD
on your keyboard use the CTRL key….. hold it down and then hit the + or - to increase or decrease the text…..
You can refresh your browser by holding down CTRL and then F5…. try that it might help
When calories don’t count…… kaluha, cream & club soda over rocks……
((Margot))
That, we will. We simply have to get throught it. Great news about voting today. We just have to keep up the GOTV effort
All this fun and I’ve been on the other side of the toobz agruing with my crazy uncle from Kansas - he thinks Colin Powell’s a fucking liberal now.
Go figure.
Head-desk-head-desk.
All night
A little sympathy, please?
that was one chilling article. he never was a man of honor and he is living up to that characterization daily
Almost a B-52
Substitute Vodka for the soda, layer it, and shoot it down!
;~P
No, dosido. Bush has remade the United States into the Soviet Union, circa 1979: stuck in a war it can’t win (Afghanistan) with a crumbling capital, human, and social infrastructure. It takes real talent to do that.
a little sympathy along with my g’nite drbong
Just a liberal? I thought the latest meme was that he was a full blown commie for endorsing Obama. There are reasons I have as little as possible to do with my relatives.
a separator
substitute brandy for the soda
thank you sd
kaluha is the only “hard” liqueur that I drink ….. coffee flavor saves it….
my deepest…..
I am thankful that only my immediate family can vote. The thought of the resst voting is indeed terrifying
you goin’ somewhere?
You rang ?!!
Why is a “Grit TV” popup covering half of this post?
It is a Buddist chant that means Devotion to the Law of the Lotus Flower Scripture, the purpose is to attain perfect and complete awakening. Basically, understanding the Universe, our place, purpose, and meaning in it. Peace, love, understanding.
I do agree. But he was canny enough to maintain a veneer that only occasionally allowed his real ugly self to be seen through.
Now he is little more than a modern day George Wallace…..A pompous and self righteous one at that.
He’s got two more weeks and a few more feet till he reaches the bottom of the cesspool.
-G
not trying to be difficult, but [control minus] and [control plus] have no discernable effect on what I see on my screen. [control f5] doesn’t help, either
I’m getting a new computer complete with new keyboard later this week. For now, I’m going back to Firefox
Thanks for trying to help. :)
sorry, i read that all nite as a good nite
sorry again drbong - can i buy ya a spanish coffee?
It sounds beautiful. Welcome.;)
Oh, he is already at the bottom and digging deeper every day.
a bolshevik!!!! pinko commie RINO
thank you
Yep!
what browswer are ya using?
strong?
i’ll have a few of those, please.
aha! I am not alone!
AOL
Thank you. Being welcome is a great thing.
with our luck, once we send her home, she’ll get impeached and Fox will hire her as their Obama WH commentator… we’ll never see the end of her .. on KO Worst Person in the World
thank you - i let the tech crew know
hmm after the polls close on nove 4th (well the polls here in PST time zone. the libations shall flow.
I miss lotus
I should be good and head to bed now. Have more young minds to warp in the morning and I need my strength for the endeavor. Take care and keep the hope alive. It will get better some day. It has been getting better bit by bit for my whole life. Someday we will get there.
I think JayBur @172 is seeing the same glitch.
I had it this afternoon when I tried to visit the Lake from work (old IE, and even older Windows operating system [either 98 or 2000]). It was fine in the morning, but when I came back at lunchtime, the boxes on the right had shifted about a half an inch over, to cover some of the post and the top dozen comments or so.
G’nite Sir !
all those work in Firefox…. sometimes it works in IE….. I use them all the time
hard to be a talking head from prison
g’nite dr dick
i extend a warm welcome as well
Thanks, Suzanne
Thank you.
boa noite dr dick
yep
i’m with suz. i want her to have to barter cigarettes for cup o noodles
Thank you. I appreciate the warm welcome.
The champagne is cold, the popcorn is here and I plan to wear my “I’m voting for that one” t-shirt all day. :)
“When once the forms of civility are violated, there remains little hope of return to kindness or decency”
Saml Johnson
hmm we have a bottle of champagne as well but i think i’ll be doing caipirihas that night. hmmmm maybe such a special occasion requires new beverages???
I won’t be using windows 2000 or this older version of IE (7.0?) much longer. I’ll be getting new software with my new box. I realize I have been behind the times.
So, Selise, where do you stand on the issue that there are likely to be ‘midnight drives’, lynchings, shootings and more? In blue AND red states?
And that they won’t all be targeted at black people, but at jews, muslims, white lib’s, progressives, gays and anyone ELSE who don’t run with the White Hooded One’s?
Cuz, like, I mean, that might be just a BIT more relevant to our existence as a society at this point?
And, maybe, Selise, just phrellin maybe, the FULL AND COMPLETE head on confrontation with the racist issues and the evil against all us others, might just MIGHT happen to trump everything else at this point?
And once THAT’s dealt with, harshly, we the people just MIGHT have a better life for us masses?
And THEN, we can talk about FISA and any other sleights you think THIS BLACK MAN might have committed to get elected.
And that’s all given he don’t get murdered at any given time by these despicable and degenerate and hateful 23% ignorant mofo’s, who you are in general SUPPORTING, by not fully supporting Obama.
You wanna talk about saving our country, and doing it with a black man, or not? Who else do you have to vote for, to save us, at this point? NO ONE!
Or are you gonna go on forever, as others do, and pray he don’t get elected, so we can endure more of what we have since Nixon, Reagan and BushCo . . . . or perhaps, are you saying, you HOPE he gets eliminated?
For damn sake, Selise, he’s the best we got, get him elected, or they will come for you. Have you not read history? YOU ARE ON THE LIST!!! THEY WILL COME FOR YOU! Your ass is on the line. Will you not fight for it?
And Obama is all you got left.
Don’t be bitter about it. But for shit’s sake, get on board and support your own salvation will ya?
Phreakin killin me . . . . every time.
Harumph.
btw, anyone catch her statement today that she favors a constitutional ban on gay marriage (or is it a constitutional ban on gays, period?)… which McCain opposes.
setting aside for a moment the bigotry and the apparent repudiation of their own state’s prerogative argument on abortion and school prayer, how can the two heads of a single presidential ticket hold overtly contradictory positions on an issue like that? on any issue?
have ya decided what you are getting and when do you get it?
actually IE 6.0.2800.1106
windows 2000 won’t run latest version
I believe McWingnut would roll over on that issue as soon as he got in office.
Prosecco
Trader Joe’s was selling them this weekend….. yum….
Dell Inspiron 530s, end of this week or early next week
selected with assistance from nahant
and to think we were getting all “gooey” and “warm” further up the thread. Peace.
As Eli noted in email, “I like how they skipped church to heckle voters for skipping church.”
Ah, brings me back to my yoot, when neighborhood bullies broke off their attempt to turn my Sunday morning basketball game into a field of blood and guts because they had to go to Sunday school. Either that, or it was because we punched them in the nose when they attacked us. Good times.
Because McCain is getting ratfucked by his own people. They are running a two person campaign. McCain’s failing presidential run and the future of the GOP Palin one.
I think they plan on throwing McCain to the wolves and trying to save St. Sarah of the Snow Machines.
He’s a doddering stooge and there’s gonna be a line a mile long to kick him when he’s down.
-G
Make sure it comes with XP, not Vista!
;~P
woohoo! most excellent news neuro
ROFL
Wobblybits,
I wish you were wrong about Spokane and Couer d’Alene, although there are any number of people of various races her. My husband has heard comments on the CB that are scary. Teens talking about driving their vehicle by some black students to splash them with water and tons of stupid comments by truck drivers. Lots of folks say things, because they truly don’t know many or any AA. We were in the military too long to put up with that sh*t. The guys learned pretty quick not to say racist things around my husband. I haven’t found any ethnicity that doesn’t have good, bad, and in-between types of people. It is what someone does, not how they look.
Living 50 miles north of the big city of Spokane
i like vista drbong
/pesci
Nothing. This is about scapegoating…a need to target a group, race, or gender as a cause of misfortune and/or to project onto others the parts of ourselves we disown and repress.
lindsay upstairs
So sorry
well i look racially ambiguous but it is obvious that i’m not white. i agree much is exposure but as many have said, it dissipates a little more with each generation.
my good buddy nahant did not recommend XP over Vista, and I do not recall Dell offering me that option
I know some folks have had trouble with Vista, I’m hoping they have gotten some of the bugs worked out by now
how long have you had it, Suzanne?
i’ve been using it since june - the big diff between the two is that vista asks for confirmation when ya make changes - a way of preventing unauthorized changes to your system.
took a bit to get used to the template differences - used the option for the classic windows look at first but now, i know it and like it. haven’t had any problems (knocking on wood since murphy and his forking law is a cousin)
Here’s a surprising news flash - I got a chance to play with Vista a few months ago, and it was stable and usable. fwiw
FWIW, neuro, the only beef I have with Vista is the incessant “Are you sure” prompts, followed by the “Are you really sure” prompts.
That, and I kinda like my XP
;~P
Murphy’s law hex - booga booga!
We are all americans. Dr. D, you are a good one, also.
Good words.
Patriots will need these words as we move thru this . . . this period of our trying, one of our MOST trying times, to be sure. In OUR lives, and in our nation’s.
How we end up on the other side of this trying well determine who we will be.
Damn I hope we end up being compassionate, helping, healing, and nurturing. And If we have to fight to get there, and . . . um, not make it, well I’m honored to have met on the toobs a lot of folks I like.
Lovely allagory . . . spot on too . . . *G*
But we have history to hold on to, beyond our own personal experiences.
And there are much worse patterns and incidents and behaviors beyond our personal lives.
Our job, as you allude, is to KNOW this.
Our hearts, as mine is, are shocked to learn it’s not over yet.
That Little Rock, that Michael, Andrew And James, and many more, are still dying or at risk . . . . shocked hearts to learn that JFK, MLK, Bobby and more died and it’s not over yet . . .
And now, we know once again, it’s never over. Never.
Not here. Not in USA. Not anywhere. It’s never over.
And we know, in OUR lives, that if we sleep, they creep and spring on us. Again.
It’s never over.
Harumph.
White Student athlete (already getting an F in my class) comes into my office hours wearing a T-shirt with “Osama Bin Laden (and a picture of OBL)” on it.
Idiot.
But we have a bunch of them here in Sacramento, it seems.
late late nite 2 flights up
When I lived there in the 80’s and 90’s, I was shocked at that kind of idea. It was all over. The language was incredible.
Newt !
This will continue as long as it is ALLOWED to continue. By “allow” what do I mean?
** Slashing 30 sets of tires? Where was the Secret Service? The Security Guards at the stadium?
** The thugs screaming at voters?
These incidents happen in many areas. I ask this: WHY does no one stop them? I know where I live, if even ONE set of tires were slashed at such an event, the person doing so would be arrested. And the voting area? Are you kidding me? If these cowards did this at my voting locale, THEY would be in trouble, not the voters. Why didn’t those walking in to vote DO/SAY something?
These are cowards. Mark my words. They are oh-so-brave UNTIL they are threatened, either by other citizens or by the police. Then they wilt like 3-year-olds.
Oh, please, tell us, who appointed you censor?