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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689516</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is said that when Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. To any here who are serious about learning how this culture of institutionalized intolerance has been allowed to take control of our government,PLEASE read “Expose: Christiam Mafia”,by Wayne Madsen,a former CIA operative. You will NEVER look at DC or the right wing Christian fundamentalists in the same light again. Folks, this is real. And the likes of Sarah Palin, John Hagee, and Bachmann are just tools of a far more entrenched hierarchy in our government.Here’s the closing pararaph of the article:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sunday, January 22nd, 2006&lt;br /&gt;
Expose: The “Christian” Mafia, Parts 1 &amp; 2&lt;br /&gt;
By Wayne Madsen&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Journalist, columnist, and television commentator Bill Moyers recently wrote that “for the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.” Ever since Abraham Vereide, a misguided immigrant to this country who brought very un-American ideas of Nazism and Fascism with him in his steamer trunk, the so-called “Christian” Right has long waited to take the biggest prize of all – the White House. Moyers correctly sees the Dominionists or “End Timers” as being behind the invasion of Iraq. Moyers also rightly sees fundamentalist thought behind Bush’s “faith-based initiatives” and the rolling back of environmental regulations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hundreds of millions of people around the world no longer feel the United States is a country that can be trusted. They feel the people who run the affairs of state are out of control and dangerous. Considering the hold the Fellowship and their like-minded ilk have on the United States (and some of its allies) they are correct in their fears.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The political and religious dynasties who have embraced the Fellowship, Vereide, Fascism, Moon, Buchman, Moral Rearmament and all of their current and past manifestations, hatreds, and phobias show no sign of ceding power any time soon. There are many such father-son dynasties that hope to ensure a continuation of their shameful racketeering and political chicanery under the corporate “logo” of Jesus: George H. W. Bush to George W. Bush; Douglas Coe to David Coe; Billy Graham to Franklin Graham; Oral Roberts to Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson to Gordon Robertson; Jerry Falwell to Jonathan Falwell; Jeb Bush to George P. Bush; Robert Schuller Sr. to Robert Schuller, Jr., and Sun Myung Moon to at least nine sons (who are known about).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For them and their followers, they should keep in mind something Jesus said, “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amen&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is said that when Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. To any here who are serious about learning how this culture of institutionalized intolerance has been allowed to take control of our government,PLEASE read “Expose: Christiam Mafia”,by Wayne Madsen,a former CIA operative. You will NEVER look at DC or the right wing Christian fundamentalists in the same light again. Folks, this is real. And the likes of Sarah Palin, John Hagee, and Bachmann are just tools of a far more entrenched hierarchy in our government.Here’s the closing pararaph of the article:</p>
<p>Sunday, January 22nd, 2006<br />
Expose: The “Christian” Mafia, Parts 1 &amp; 2<br />
By Wayne Madsen</p>
<p>Journalist, columnist, and television commentator Bill Moyers recently wrote that “for the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.” Ever since Abraham Vereide, a misguided immigrant to this country who brought very un-American ideas of Nazism and Fascism with him in his steamer trunk, the so-called “Christian” Right has long waited to take the biggest prize of all – the White House. Moyers correctly sees the Dominionists or “End Timers” as being behind the invasion of Iraq. Moyers also rightly sees fundamentalist thought behind Bush’s “faith-based initiatives” and the rolling back of environmental regulations.</p>
<p>Hundreds of millions of people around the world no longer feel the United States is a country that can be trusted. They feel the people who run the affairs of state are out of control and dangerous. Considering the hold the Fellowship and their like-minded ilk have on the United States (and some of its allies) they are correct in their fears.</p>
<p>The political and religious dynasties who have embraced the Fellowship, Vereide, Fascism, Moon, Buchman, Moral Rearmament and all of their current and past manifestations, hatreds, and phobias show no sign of ceding power any time soon. There are many such father-son dynasties that hope to ensure a continuation of their shameful racketeering and political chicanery under the corporate “logo” of Jesus: George H. W. Bush to George W. Bush; Douglas Coe to David Coe; Billy Graham to Franklin Graham; Oral Roberts to Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson to Gordon Robertson; Jerry Falwell to Jonathan Falwell; Jeb Bush to George P. Bush; Robert Schuller Sr. to Robert Schuller, Jr., and Sun Myung Moon to at least nine sons (who are known about).</p>
<p>For them and their followers, they should keep in mind something Jesus said, “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.” </p>
<p>Amen</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689474</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I posted on that one too, actually…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/12/the-environment-is-not-a-truck-michele-bachmann-right-wing-loon-of-the-week&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08.....f-the-week&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted on that one too, actually…</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/12/the-environment-is-not-a-truck-michele-bachmann-right-wing-loon-of-the-week" rel="nofollow">http://firedoglake.com/2008/08&#8230;..f-the-week</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dawgman99</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689473</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawgman99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, that Bachmann woman is a lunatic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that Bachmann woman is a lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689468</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Correction: Monica Goodlin attended Pat Robertson’s university,Regent, not Oral Roberts. However, the tenets of both Christian based law schools is expressly to develop attorneys,according to them, who will help shape the legal and political community to reflect Judeo-Christian values. ORU law school is now defunct.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Monica Goodlin attended Pat Robertson’s university,Regent, not Oral Roberts. However, the tenets of both Christian based law schools is expressly to develop attorneys,according to them, who will help shape the legal and political community to reflect Judeo-Christian values. ORU law school is now defunct.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689466</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;redX, How correct you are. The link between ORU and the number of Neocon Theocrats HAS NOT been vetted in the media. It was the express purpose of ORU to train the law graduates to infiltrate government to shape a THEOCRACY&gt; This is fact. Sarah Palin is no doubt picked by the Israel/Christian Fundamentalist movement spearheaded by Hagee. Liebermann was keynote speaker at CUFI conference this summer in DC.This group is also tied to mega church Pastor Rod Parsleu of Ohio, also once tapped by John McCain to deliver the votes via Patriot Pastors. These people have this thread of “Chrisitan Minutemen” theology. Check out “Christian Mafia ” by Wayne Madsen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redX, How correct you are. The link between ORU and the number of Neocon Theocrats HAS NOT been vetted in the media. It was the express purpose of ORU to train the law graduates to infiltrate government to shape a THEOCRACY&gt; This is fact. Sarah Palin is no doubt picked by the Israel/Christian Fundamentalist movement spearheaded by Hagee. Liebermann was keynote speaker at CUFI conference this summer in DC.This group is also tied to mega church Pastor Rod Parsleu of Ohio, also once tapped by John McCain to deliver the votes via Patriot Pastors. These people have this thread of “Chrisitan Minutemen” theology. Check out “Christian Mafia ” by Wayne Madsen.</p>
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		<title>By: redX</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689464</link>
		<dc:creator>redX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Note sure whats above yet, but here is what I have seen elsewhere:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- she is the one that grabbed and fondled Bush at the SOTU speech&lt;br /&gt;
- her competitors ActBlue is just over 150k since the show&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Elwyn Tinklenberg (MN-06)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tinklenberg08.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tinklenberg08.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- petition for censure:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.censurebachmann.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.censurebachmann.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;etc, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This latest event actually got her in the local news and got some people to dump her, most of the other gems of her’s go unsporrted which shows how critical the buy off of the media has been (and where not possible its hobbling).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank god for the web. We have global communication…if we can keep it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note sure whats above yet, but here is what I have seen elsewhere:</p>
<p>- she is the one that grabbed and fondled Bush at the SOTU speech<br />
- her competitors ActBlue is just over 150k since the show</p>
<p>Elwyn Tinklenberg (MN-06)<br /><a href="http://www.tinklenberg08.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinklenberg08.com/</a></p>
<p>- petition for censure:<br /><a href="http://www.censurebachmann.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.censurebachmann.com/</a></p>
<p>etc, etc.</p>
<p>This latest event actually got her in the local news and got some people to dump her, most of the other gems of her’s go unsporrted which shows how critical the buy off of the media has been (and where not possible its hobbling).</p>
<p>Thank god for the web. We have global communication…if we can keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689463</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oops, I got cut off. BTW, John Hagee-founder of Christians United For Isreal, and McCain’s buddy, sat on the Board of Regents of Oral Roberts University,Michele Bachman’s old almam mater. Hagee and Palin are members of Assemblies of God and Joel’s Army,Christocrats and “Christian Dominionists.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, I got cut off. BTW, John Hagee-founder of Christians United For Isreal, and McCain’s buddy, sat on the Board of Regents of Oral Roberts University,Michele Bachman’s old almam mater. Hagee and Palin are members of Assemblies of God and Joel’s Army,Christocrats and “Christian Dominionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689462</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW, if you live in the Minneapolis area, trot over to Living Word Ministries tonight about 6:30 PM. Tonight is an evening to honor Israel night. (google up their website,its on the homepage.) Gee, was Israel annexed into the US,too? I smell a whiff of CUFI,John Hagee and “Christian Dominionism” here. BTW&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, if you live in the Minneapolis area, trot over to Living Word Ministries tonight about 6:30 PM. Tonight is an evening to honor Israel night. (google up their website,its on the homepage.) Gee, was Israel annexed into the US,too? I smell a whiff of CUFI,John Hagee and “Christian Dominionism” here. BTW</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/17/we-are-all-americans-except-you/#comment-1689460</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(Further info on Bachmann’s Church)October 6, 2008  &#124;  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On its face, the case of the U.S. government vs. Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park seems like an esoteric argument over obscure issues in the tax code and the organizational chart of the Internal Revenue Service. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But attorneys for the church and its pastor, the Rev. Mac Hammond, argued in U.S. District Court on Thursday that the case is about the First Amendment, separation of church and state and the reach of the government into the actions of religious organizations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Magistrate Judge Jeffrey Keyes took the issue seriously enough to ask for more information from both parties. “It’s an issue I could see moving a long way through the courts,” he said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The IRS has filed a petition in U.S. District Court to force the church to answer a demand for detailed financial information. The church declined to comply with an IRS summons in March, arguing that the request was overly broad, and that the law states the request must come from a “high-ranking official” of the IRS. The U.S. attorney’s office then sued to force compliance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The IRS is interested in compensation for Hammond and the details of a relationship in which the church bought a jet for the pastor and founder of Living Word, which he then leased back to the church at a profit. The deal was questioned by a Washington watchdog group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hammond originally drew attention to himself by endorsing now-U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann for Congress from the pulpit, which violates rules for tax-exempt organizations. He later apologized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hammond is a proponent of the “prosperity Gospel,” which teaches that a life dedicated to Christ will result in spiritual and material riches for its members. He owns homes and property worth millions of dollars.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pickard said the church was concerned about the potential for misuse of information about donors and members, as well as the broad net cast by the IRS inquiry into Hammond’s personal finances.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“He clearly is a target,” Pickard said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amy Rotenberg, another attorney representing Living Word, said the church is fighting the case for all religious organizations, not just itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Living Word’s position is that it’s an unlawful government intrusion into the church,” Rotenberg said. “The impact on all faith communities is quite significant.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Further info on Bachmann’s Church)October 6, 2008  |  </p>
<p>On its face, the case of the U.S. government vs. Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park seems like an esoteric argument over obscure issues in the tax code and the organizational chart of the Internal Revenue Service. </p>
<p>But attorneys for the church and its pastor, the Rev. Mac Hammond, argued in U.S. District Court on Thursday that the case is about the First Amendment, separation of church and state and the reach of the government into the actions of religious organizations.</p>
<p>Magistrate Judge Jeffrey Keyes took the issue seriously enough to ask for more information from both parties. “It’s an issue I could see moving a long way through the courts,” he said.</p>
<p>The IRS has filed a petition in U.S. District Court to force the church to answer a demand for detailed financial information. The church declined to comply with an IRS summons in March, arguing that the request was overly broad, and that the law states the request must come from a “high-ranking official” of the IRS. The U.S. attorney’s office then sued to force compliance.</p>
<p>The IRS is interested in compensation for Hammond and the details of a relationship in which the church bought a jet for the pastor and founder of Living Word, which he then leased back to the church at a profit. The deal was questioned by a Washington watchdog group.</p>
<p>Hammond originally drew attention to himself by endorsing now-U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann for Congress from the pulpit, which violates rules for tax-exempt organizations. He later apologized.</p>
<p>Hammond is a proponent of the “prosperity Gospel,” which teaches that a life dedicated to Christ will result in spiritual and material riches for its members. He owns homes and property worth millions of dollars.</p>
<p>Pickard said the church was concerned about the potential for misuse of information about donors and members, as well as the broad net cast by the IRS inquiry into Hammond’s personal finances.</p>
<p>“He clearly is a target,” Pickard said.</p>
<p>Amy Rotenberg, another attorney representing Living Word, said the church is fighting the case for all religious organizations, not just itself.</p>
<p>“Living Word’s position is that it’s an unlawful government intrusion into the church,” Rotenberg said. “The impact on all faith communities is quite significant.”</p>
<p>Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interestingly enough NOBODY seems to be making the connection ,is that Bachmann is a graduate of Oral Roberts University Law School. She is also a tax attorney. Guess who else is a graduate of ORU? MONICA GOODLING?.Remember her? She figured prominently in th voter fraud scandal that resulted in the FIRING of DOJ attorneys,like David Igelsias, who REFUSED to undertake BASELESS voter fraud cases in states where GOP were in tight races against DEMS?HELLO!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough NOBODY seems to be making the connection ,is that Bachmann is a graduate of Oral Roberts University Law School. She is also a tax attorney. Guess who else is a graduate of ORU? MONICA GOODLING?.Remember her? She figured prominently in th voter fraud scandal that resulted in the FIRING of DOJ attorneys,like David Igelsias, who REFUSED to undertake BASELESS voter fraud cases in states where GOP were in tight races against DEMS?HELLO!!!!!</p>
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