hey Eli!

Hey jayt!

Thanks Eli.

digg

so just why the heck did Matthews let this deeply disturbed woman just keep talking?

It’s not the office – Matthews ripped Eric Cantor to shreds – twice.

But with this twit (note the careful spelling there) he just sat back and watched, albeit with a horrified look on his face.

Hi Eli

You can support Michelle’s challenger here

Dugg your Digg Boo(:>))

I think he figured that the most damaging thing he could do was let her keep talking, and maybe prod her into saying something even *more* insane, which she did.

Does Michelle Bachman sound like Sarah Palin?

And does Bachman realize that Obama has been in office for four years and not one?

But yes, she is an id10t.

Wow… what a name.

Elwyn Tinklenberg

I had the same reaction… Horrible, I know.

Yea that’s a one you’re not going to forget.

You can support Michelle’s challenger here…

that race is tightening up -

http://www.pollster.com/polls/…..ge-bvt.php

Palin actually sought support some of those pockets of Anti-Americans just a little while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmYqRfp6-x8

And Palin is Bachman Turned-up Overdrive!

Hopefully the fact that she’s a batshit insane McCarthyite will take her numbers down a few notches…

hey Eli.

Greetings from O-town. Barack & Hillary will be here Monday. Short way from work. The doors open at 3 but i imagine there will be a line. I don’t want to take off the whole day, but……

what’s with the um, er, um shit? She’s off script? I thought that wasn’t allowed.

OT But the McCain Campaigns RoboCall tactics has actually created problems for at least one Republican Senator trying to hold onto her seat, Maine’s Susan Collins.

Collins Tells McCain “Stop The Robo-Calls!

It goes farther back than that.
I remember Bush41 saying that liberals and ACLU members were unAmerican. I’m not sure if he used the word ‘traitors’, but if not, he sure implied it.

I think she’s struggling to use the same talking point to respond to every single question that Matthews asks. I think he’s trying to get her *off* that talking point and say something substantive, but she refuses, and then finally goes all the way off into Crazyland at the end.

a,e, i, o, u
gotta be careful with them vowels. good job.

It goes way further back than that, alas.

Strangely, I don’t recall Democrats ever accusing political opponents of being anti-American. Just by the law of averages, I’m sure it’s happened, but it’s not exactly a defining staple of their discourse.

she doesn’t really say shit. missed her tonight but i’ve seen her before. also, they get used to her and come to expect off-the-wall bullshit so they let it slide. stupid.

Rachel Maddow just said Elwyn Tinklenberg has raised 30K since Bachmann’s remarks aired this evening.

Hopefully the fact that she’s a batshit insane McCarthyite will take her numbers down a few notches…

but it would require a whole bunch of Un-American votes to get her out of office…

Why did Tweety give this bitch a platform to spew her hate? They do pre-interviews before they go on air, he must have had some idea what she was going to say. I was watching this shit and had to turn it before she even said anything about the people in Congress. She was busy spreading lies about BO and tweety allowed it. Sickening….

ahahahahaa…I’m sorry, but this is just too karma-cly hilarious for me. Ricochet robocalls — try to hit Obama and they hit Collins instead…

She’s probably in a very pro-America district.

i can remember during vietnam it happening. but it goes back to te earlier part of the century. maybe even before. with the irish. and te other imigrants who were catholic which was almost as un-American as being a muslim is today.

With a name like Elwyn Tinklenberg, it must be REALLY good jam.

I tried to find a clip of the classic SNL sketch but struck out.

great!!!!

“What’s so disgusting about 10,000 nuns and orphans?”

“They were all eaten by rats.”

Um, no offense.

Is Joe tired?

Aloha, Eli! I was amazed at Bachmann’s fringe rant, my wife couldn’t believe it either…!

It’s funny cuz it’s true.

Aloha, CTut! I don’t think Tweety could believe it either.

From her Wikipeia

…She won 50 percent of the votes in the 2006 election, defeating Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party candidate and child safety advocate Patty Wetterling and the Independence Party’s John Binkowski….

Not an overwhelming victory.

I wonder if Bachmann Turn-her Overdone thinks that Joe McCarthy was a great American. I suspect she does. What Joe Biden said.

Right ON, Eli. I keep thinking that I do NOT hate those people who are sounding like lynch mobs at the Palin/McCain rallies, speeches and “gatherings”….. They are my “countrymen”. I don’t literally have ROOM inside of me to hate them all!
I DO, however, feel sorry for them because they are so certain that they are right, and they are honestly, deeply just scared. I’m SORRY for them and about that. WE are not the enemy here, we are FELLOW Americans.
Thanks for writing this, Eli.
We are a country BADLY in need of more and better EDUCATION, so that these ideas don’t ferment in the first place. I have compassion for those who are so frightened now, I do NOT feel that same way for those who incite and feed the fear, namely Palin. And her cohort in all of this. It’s like Germany in the darkest hours before war was declared on the world and the people in it.

Somebody should remind Sarah that even Alaskan secessionists are Americans.

Republicans are just like the zombies in a Robert Romero movie. They just keep coming. Even when they are under the ground they continue to wreak havoc. John McCain’s campaign is channeling the spirit of the amoral consultant, Lee Atwater.

When you can demonize and Otherize your opponent, you open the door for all kinds of scary shit. Stuff that people would never think of doing to a fellow American or human being becomes perfectly acceptable when they’re a dirty subhuman America-hating liberal.

It certainly is ironic that secessionists are more American than we are…

It’s actually against Bachmann’s true nature.
But Obama made her do it.

She’s a wacko according to her Wiki entry. It’s chock full of wingnutery nuggets.

Seems like I heard of another outfit that used this tactic to great effect, at least for awhile. Oh, right it was the Nazi’s.

It would explain their quest for brains.

It’s even more ironic that the republican media allow these people to come on their shows talking about Ayers and the “terrorists” that BO is palling around with. You don’t hear a thing about Mcpalin making speaches for the Secessionists or the hate that spewed from their founder before he got himself blown up. It’s no surprise where she learned to hate.

Zombies never wanted brains, they just wanted red meat to feast on.

Tweety was speechless for awhile there, a first in quite some time…! ;-)

Mueller, a monster who was in charge of the Gestapo was quoted, “One really ought to drive all the intellectuals into a coal mine, then blow it up.”

I think that Chris Matthews, knowing that since BO spelled out his relationship with Ayers at the debate and their relationship has been spelled out elsewhere, was giving her as much rope as she wanted to take.
I think most people will see her as Way Out There.
That’s what I think.

This whole election has been about “Who Is American?”

McCain/Palin represent the WASP rear guard, for whom “American” means White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (yes, I’m a WASP, too).

Obama/Biden represent people of color & Catholics whose parents weren’t properly indoctrinated in the canons of McGuffey readers.

Palin is making oblique references to this dialectic. Theirs is a losing battle, and I think their campaign is like a protest demonstration against a sea of change they don’t understand and are very much afraid of.

So far, Obama has done a great job of being non-threatening and reassuring. He will drive progressive nuts because he will want to keep the Reactionary Right from freaking out too much.

These are dangerous times.

Bob in HI

The answer can be found in your first line, “the Republican media”.

And it took *David Letterman* to bring up McCain’s friendship with G. Gordon Liddy.

And the absolute certainty with which they all assert that Obama and Ayers are close, close friends, and the verbal sleight-of-hand in the robocalls that say that Obama “worked closely with a domestic terrorist”, implying that he was actually an *accomplice*. (As opposed to, say, John McCain, who actually *was* Keating’s accomplice.) Despicable.

Well, except for the liberal secessionists. Remember the Jesusland cartoon that appeared after the 2004 election?

When I encounter “people” like Michelle Bachmann, I like to ask them to define what makes America America. They’ll usually agree that the Constitution is the basis of it, but with just a simple question or two about what the Constitution says, or the Bill of Rights and the history behind it all, it becomes clear that they have almost no knowledge of it at all. This has been true nearly 100% true in many times of doing this.

Then I let them know that I’m a pretty far-left Liberal and can quote most of the Constitution and show how it informs most of my political views which is why I’m a Liberal. They never have a response to this other than stammering and repeating some pop culture slogan learned from Lush Limpbaugh like, “Well, we gotta support our troops and have respect for the President. That’s American!!!” Sad really….

That was pretty much my take too, plus a sort of fascination to see what kind of out-there crazy thing she would say next.

She’s a creationist also

And there’s this

Bachmann came under scrutiny by the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) for speaking at Living Word Christian Center (LWCC), a large charismatic church located in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota.[36] CREW went on to file a complaint with the IRS against LWCC’s senior pastor, Mac Hammond.[36]

CREW characterized Bachmann’s talk as “a stump speech wrapped in a sermon”.[37] Fellow LWCC pastor Rev. Tim Burt denied this saying that she had been invited to speak about “her spiritual journey” and “There was no intent for this to be a political event.”[37] Asked about the IRS complaint Bachmann’s spokeswoman would only say “Living Word was so gracious to invite Michele to speak.”[37] The IRS complaint has not been resolved.

They ate brains. Mmm-mm good.

Done. It’s like getting a chance to do something against Joe McCarthy, the House UnAmercican Activities Committee, Joe Martin and all the terrible red baiters of old.

I only know the parts of the Constitution what talk about Jesus.

Are you suggesting that Obama will forgoe any meaningful progressive initiatives that are so desperately needed out of fear that the reactionary right will be offended and perhaps rebell?

this women IS anti american

she uses the “oposite” methods JUST like the repukkklicans

the clean air act, the patriot act, no child left behind…they say what you want to hear so they can do the oposite

they blame everyone else for what they themselves are

this women is DEFINATELY anti american

Like a slow down traffic jam of lookie loos when there’s an accident on the freeway?

Theirs is a losing battle, and I think their campaign is like a protest demonstration against a sea of change they don’t understand and are very much afraid of.

I would really like to think of Ms. Bachmann as being unable to sleep due to the sheer terror of impending Democratic rule, but I don’t think she’s smart enough to be afraid of anything…

I know I could be suspended by the mods for saying this, but I’m gonna tempt fate anyways….

“I want to spit on Michelle Bachman”

*covering head*

They have pretty much committed themselves to trying to win with *only* the white vote. But they need a lot more of it than they’re gonna get to pull off that strategy.

There was a time when they at least had some appeal to Latinos, but that time is long gone.

That’s the problem, they are affraid of everything.

she’s kinda cute, though doncha think?

More likely for lack of funds. Maybe Cindy McCain will loan him her AmEx card.

kidding. lighten up everybody, k?

She’s kinda like Katharine Harris, only crazier!

Yeah, her and Sarah Palin would make a fine wrestling tag team, lots of oil.

Karma

If Michele Bachmann made you angry, take out your anger by going to http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660 and donate to Elwyn Tinklenberg. PU-LEEEEEEEEEEEZ help us in the 6th district get rid of her!

but seriously. I hadn’t seen her on Hardballs tonight. Matthews’s face got a little contorted there a few times. This is what the surrogates are talking about? They got nuthin’ This is old shit. lady is a looney putz whop went to a defunct jesus freak law school.

They love America, they just hate the Constitution and the environment and the children and…

Bachman needs to be reminded that Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Anymore

I would be remiss to not point out that Pat Buchanadana went out of his way to make sure to express his agreement with everything Ms. Bachmann said. Except the “press should investigate congress” part.

That part just brought a chuckle from the noted war anti-historian.

Here’s classic Bachmann:
http://www.eleventh-avenue-sou…..00491.html

She was caught spying on a gay pride rally by hiding behind some bushes (photos if you scroll down).

And her attraction to Bushes got really creepy at one of the State of the Union speeches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJepxPPBok

She’s a looney tune of the highest order.

I guess the republics 8 million borrowed was for batshit crazy robocalls.

Oh, there is a resemblance.
They call thee Plain Kate,
And Bonnie Kate,
And sometimes Kate the Cursed.

crazier? oh shit. (I’m not gonna get into a comparison of their other should we say… attributes.)

Hey Eli, Rachel just read that same quote from Miz Palin…! ;-)

she’s kinda cute, though doncha think?

Does she ever blink?

Yeah, even Pat Buchanan said he didn’t think there were any anti-American members of Congress.

How low has your party sunk when PAT BUCHANAN is the voice of reason?

OT. McCain campaigning today in Miami with his wife and workwife.

I have yet to hear or see in print a GOP “base” for McC-Pal put into words exactly what Anti-American and un-American means or how it is defined by the GOP.

If being “self-critical” of our “people democracy” is anti-American and un-American, then I suppose just exercising critical thinking is un-American or anti-American. If I remember correctly, the country was founded by a band of critical thinkers who were “self-critical” of their ruling political power. With that in mind, I guess liberals are the most true to our country’s roots of founding a free nation with rights for all… Patriotism is not blindly kissing the flag.

Biden is right. I’m tired too…

Hey, you still here? I figure that the mods agree with you..

I’m glad. It really was a shocking thing to say.

So low that they have to look up to see the Titanic!

mccain blinks enough for the both of them and she is relieved of the excersize

Not even in conjunction with several Support The Troops decals and a fish or two (the ones with crosses for eyes ’cause otherwise they’re way too subtle)?

I have yet to hear or see in print a GOP “base” for McC-Pal put into words exactly what Anti-American and un-American means or how it is defined by the GOP.

Definition of unAmerican: Batshit crazy republican.

Just back from Eastern Promises…helluva film.

I thought Matthews did a brilliant job of drawing out Bachmann’s vileness. And there’s no way you can put lipstick on that pig. She was vile. And the antithesis of everything that our Founding Fathers fought for. And my father and others in World War II fought for.

She is a part of the McCain-Palin campaign as a member of the Minnesota branch of the Palin Truth Squad.

Katrina Vandeheuvel [sorry, if the spelling’s wrong] hit it right on when she talked about the seamy underbelly of fascist thought coming out in the open.

Bachmann’s plastic face cannot mask the anti-democracy evil within. And it is orchestrated. And John McCain owns it.

My favorite moment in the Bachmann interview was when Tweety asked her what “liberal,” “leftist”, and “anti-American” were, trying to get her to draw a distinction between them, and she responded that all three described Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright and went right back into her spiel.

Un-frickin’-believable.

No–
I think he will use his powers of persuasion to bring the Rightwingers to take ownership in his agenda as if it is their own, and he won’t be confrontational in a way that will alienate too many of them. He doesn’t want to wind up like Clinton did, fighting with a Republican congress during his last years in office. He will make some compromises that we won’t like. But I think his agenda will be, on the whole, better than Bill Clinton’s.

I have the audacity to hope *g*

Bob in HI

I guess Hawaii is one of those ‘Anti-America’ places, eh?

Unlike Katharine, Michelle doesn’t appear to be channeling Tammy Faye when she puts on her makeup.

The conventional wisdom is that when you find yourself in a hole, you should stop digging. Today’s Republican Party believes that you should keep going until you come out the other side.

She’s definitely less scary-*looking*.

Clearly.

I miss John Prine. What’s he doing these days?

Bob in HI

In that case they must be well on their way to China.

Why can’t we reach through our televisions sometimes?

“Oh, hi guys. Say, um, as long as we’re here… Can we borrow some money?”

Aaaaggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!! It’s back!!!!! Make it go away!!!!!! Bachman’s on CNN w/ larry King!!!

Bob, I think the repubs do understand what the sea-change is all about and that’s why they’re scared. They know, or think, their hold on our nation and it’s economy is about to end and they just don’t know what’s up for them next.

Unwilling to accept the charges. Shocking, isn’t it?

Sold themselves to China I believe.

My understanding in listening to Michelle is that if you are a student or a professor, you are definitely ant-American. If you are left and liberal, you are only 2/3rd anti-American. I’m only a 2/3rd type of person….

Must be. White folks are not a majority here.
I think it is a huge omen that Obama grew up here. He represents the face of America’s future. And its gonna be one our folding money one of these days.

Bob in HI

Be worse if it was the other way around.

Very un-American and that is probably why I have never been there.

yup. where i’m from too. america’s most dense state. not enough small towns. well, not true, there are small towns. they’re just all sqooshed together on top of one another.

Touring…
http://www.johnprine.net/tour.html

If she has to define it, she would eventually slip into the “us-them” tone ;therefore showing the root of the politics of divisiveness and then the game is over for the GOP.

Um, you guys know there are these new fangled things called remote controls. You can change channels and they even have an Off Switch. Ha!

I turned anti-american sometime during W’s admin. Who could be in favor of this country?

I can remember when there weren’t any remotes and you had to start them with a crank.

I can remember when there weren’t any remotes and you had to start them with a crank.

I didn’t mind the crank nearly so much as all that smoke!

Scary. The American Taliban is out of control, because they’ve been applauding and clicking their jackboots together for years now in response to George Bush’s genocide in Iraq, but yet, they can’t forgive a guy who blew up statues (no one died) and then 3 of his own Weathermen blew themselves up!

Eli,
Is that why they are shipping all of our money to China?

I think Tweety should get props for letting her hang herself. He is the one who asked her if she equated Liberalism with anti-Americanism. If he had not done that, that whole line of questioning would have gone by just like it has for most of the past 10 years. He forced her to look and sound like Sarah Palin aka Joe McCarthy and to show that all she could do was keep repeating the tps she had. By the sheer power of repetition, the TPs were shown for the poison that they are to anyone with even half a brain.

I became anti-W because I LOVE this country. He has been doing his best to destroy it and I really hate him for that.

Um, think it’s the other way around. China is financing the U.S.

Touring and playing his music. I saw him here in San Antonio a couple of years ago. That YouTube is a fairly recent vintage. It’s just a shame he’s had to resurrect songs like Flag Decal…, and Sam Stone, and others.

My family’s TV was a “Radiation King.” Nice thing was, the side facing the set stayed nice and tan.

That reminds me of Bob’s Oahu…! The Big Isle has a lot more room to breathe…! ;-)

Anti-W, anti-US, a distinction without a difference.

They had cranky nominees way back then too?

Ayers should issue a statement saying that he was a Republican back then. That way he could get a radio program like G. Gordon Liddy.

Yep. I think the mixture was one of the things I liked so much about my island time.

That and the perpetual summer aspects of it.

I resemble that, except for the nominee part.

That is so we buy their products. The Chinese money is only here briefly and then goes back to China for more products.

Perpetual summer? I didn’t even like the weather in California…

Hey, Bra! I liked your diary, today! ;-)

Wow, Elwyn Tinklenberg Michelle’s challenger is tearing it up on ActBlue tonight. He just crossed the 50k mark, and when I posted the link at comment 5, he was in the low 30k range.

Help kick Michelle to the curb here.

We do have four seasons, Eli… Wet, Dry, Wet, Dry…! 8-)

Beach Boys album, wasn’t it?

Bachman in a gooper plus five district according to Cook Report…that’s a possible pick up.

No snow, no deal.

Have you looked at how many U.S. treasury securities the Chinese own?
http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Oh. Well, whatever works for you.

Oh that we do, and, after I pass my physicals next week, I’ll be seeing it up close and personal…! ;-)

Well, it’s been over 25 years since I was there and CT or Bob can correct me if things have changed but they didn’t have weather forecasters on the news as if the weather was out of the norm, it was a news story.

Standard Oahu summer forecast was:
Highs in the mid to upper 80s, lows in the low 70s, showers around the mountains morning and evening and breezes out of the northeast 5-25 mph.

Winter forecast was:
Highs in the low 80s, lows in the low 60s, showers around the mountains morning and evening and breezes out of the northeast 5-25 mph.

If the breeze turned around to come from the southwest (Kona winds), then the temp in summer could climb up to the low 90s.

IN four years I was there, the high I saw was 93 and the lowest was 56.

Thanks!

And here I’ve been defending Canadians as not being snobs.

The fascists secretly love the communists. It’s so cute. Spit.

Note to me: Do not argue with real economist!

I gave up work for Lent in 1988. Is Lent over yet? On second thought, don’t tell me.

Snow on top of the mountains on the big Island. I was told the skiing up there is like spring skiing in the northeast.

I did not need to see snow myself.

Canadians? I’m from Noo Yawk.

Nicely put.

None of the Canadians I know are snobs, but then again they are all from BC.

Why do Goopers hate democracy?

People in California told me much the same thing about snow.

The snow should come to me, not vice versa.

Perpetual Lent?

Less American than Canada, from what I hear.

I will not forget the day (several months ago) some Cheney disciple came on the news and told me that the Chinese were our friends.

I lived in your great state for 21 years. I liked being able to surf and snow ski on the same island on the same day. I do miss it.
WayneC

Saw this live and almost choked.

Why are people like this Congress slime and Katherine Harris and that congress guy that could only name 2 of the 10 commandments able to get elected and serve?

I heard her opponent got 30k in a few hours, is the link up for him – what is the polls in her race? Maybe put that in a new thread later. Sorry will read this later its likely above my comment.

Right. NY’s are even worse snobs. Ha.
And folks like me, from CA, even worse — Los Angeles, are knuckledragging airheads.

Not to mention Perpetual Lint.

DIGG! Y’all, puhleeeze?

Need to have facts to argue for progress. I have been noodling on why China finances US over & above US purchases of net imports from China for about a decade. It makes no sense from China’s POV, but there it is. Here’s last year’s bilateral trade flows, FYI.
http://www.census.gov/foreign-……html#2007

Hi CT

I guess Hawaii is one of those ‘Anti-America’ places, eh?

Alaska isn’t a foreign country…but Hawaii is. :P

Remember when Barack Obama said some Americans will turn to guns & religion when they’re down and out. Turns out he’s right. Check out this sign at a Todd Palin rally:

http://minnesotaindependent.co…..first-dude

My, my, my, is there anything we libs/progs/Dems ever wrong about? LOL

And you think the Chinese are NOT our friends? Don’t understand the implication of your comment.

Repentant Lint?

The west coast of Oregon only has two seasons: the rainy season and August.

Bachmann has fruitcakes across America envious.

“And we thought we were nutty!”

Not so much. Clumpy, mostly.

Hi redX. I choked too. I got right on here to tell folks about it and a few commenters were able to calm me down saying they already knew she was batshit crazy.

I hope her opponent (forget the name) can run a really good ad juxtaposing her spew with photos and clips of McCarthy and the other Senator at the time whose name escapes me saying

“have you no decency?”

And truly, that is the point we are at in our political discourse with this and the dispicable stuff we saw on the Internet yesterday.

Like, ya know, I used to live in the Valley, ya know? It was, so, like, groovy, fer shure.

But Alaska’s working on it…

Historically, we held the Chinese at arms length. Sorta like detente in my limited understanding. Then came all the tainted dog food, seafood, leaded toys, etc. right through customs. I wondered why Cheney and his minions were trying so hard to tell me to like the Chinese govt. Then I learned that they funded his pet war.

That’s what I mean.

Who knows it may go back to our support of China in the Boxer Rebellion.

Say two Holy Marys and throw it out.

My, my, my, is there anything we libs/progs/Dems (are) ever wrong about? LOL

You laugh, but uh, no.

And as long as we can keep our zippers up this go round, we should have a long run at proving it over the next decade at least.

*g* good one.

I dunno, I kind of attached to it, or vice versa.

Oh, man, that is sooooo rad.
Want some gum? Wanna go skating?
We could skate all the way to Venice Beach.

This kind of hateful speech is incredibly disturbing coming from a sitting Congressperson. Unfortunately I fear this woman is all to representative of the people listening to right wing radio and tv all day and all night.

Unfortunately I work for one of them and it has even led him to say about his own disabled daughter that if she was molested that she should “just get over it”. When my co-worker said she was shocked at this, I said “I am not. He listens to hate speech all day long.”

This is classic demonization of the “other”. Since when in the United States of America did dissent become un-American? These people should be repudiated and ostracized by our whole society. Every person in the Republican party should be asked about this. Let’s get it on the record. Who in Congress believes in the Constitution and Free speech and who does not. Kick the bums out who don’t believe in the constitution. Period.

So many have died and suffered so that we all could have the right to speak our mind in America. Every single one.

Been a long week of sloth and indolence, think I’ll call it a night. Have a splendid weekend, y’all.

Now that’s an interesting image.
(btw, what are we on?) No, don’t tell. Whatever it is, I’d like to keep the buzz going.

Ta Ta Rat. Hug your lint for me. :)

Thanks. Got it.

I prefer to look at relations among countries as complex issues involving many factors.

For example, as for China’s financing US wars (or whatever you want to assign China’s purchases of US govt securities over & above the bilateral trade deficit), it looks like a permanent feature that the US can take advantage of. In other words, won’t lose that advantage if we press China hard on product supervision & quality.

What Cheney thinks is an entirely different matter.

Ever skateboard down Foothills Blvd in Tujunga? Stoned. *g*

Strenuous day. Time for sleep. Night all.

Close. I was one of the chicks on the sidewalk with the twiggy eye make up watching you guys!

see ya, eCAHN.

Sleep Tight, eCAHN!
See ya tomorrow.

I wondered why Cheney and his minions were trying so hard to tell me to like the Chinese govt. Then I learned that they funded his pet war.

The rest of the world, including China, is more than happy to have the US serve as the world’s policeman and absorb the associated costs.

While we spend more than the rest of the world combined on defense, they get to spend their money on r&d, infrastructure improvements, green technology, buying our debt, etc.

China figured out long ago owning our treasuries is a far more cost effective way to hold the US in check than guns and nukes.

Plus, treasuries even pay interest.

Roger that — just made a $25 contribution there.

Also sent the following e-mail to Ms. Bachmann via Tell Them Public Matters:

Ms Bachemann,

I just finished watching your unbelievable interview on Hard Ball w/ Chris
Matthews. Thank you – you just fired me up enough to make a contribution
to your Democratic opponent, Elwyn Tinklenberg. I’m really hoping that
there are HUNDREDS OR EVEN THOUSANDS of other AMERICANS out there that are
reacting in the same way.

Just wanted to drop this note to you to let you know what my reaction was
to your incredible interview. Please keep it up! I’m looking forward
very much to sending you another e-mail around 05 Nov 08 to bid you adios
when you lose your re-election campaign.

I first picked up this Wing Nut report over at Daily Kos, and I’m glad to see it’s getting good traction here at the Lake as well.
[I also see where I inadvertently mis-spelled Ms. Bachmann’s name, but maybe that will add insult to injury ;-)]

Semper,
Dave in Okinawa

Sent him $’s too

New kirk post — bees are dying in record numbers. A significant proportion of the world’s food depends on their pollination.

An invisible story that will affect us all, soon.

Yep. Bush really screwed the pooch with his stupid selfish war.

Good on ya Dave.

I hope she gets a ton of blowback on her incredible insensitivity and brainlessness.

Last one

No Sense of Decency.

When I was a kid I used to ride my bike in the summertime up my school and borrow a book every 2 weeks from the “Book Mobile”, a libray set up in a bus.

Someone ought to be collecting all this campaigne garbage speeches, videos, newsarticles including magazines and snail mail pamplets & DVD’s, robo calls, etc. and put it in a traveling bus that makes stops at malls and museums. Maybe then the politicians would play it straight. Because what Bush did and McCain is doing is dangerous and anti America.

Well, I have to tell you this same mental pattern is displayed in many conservative fundamentalists I have spoken with.
Did you know know that there are different christians.

For example, there are (plain) Christians, phoney chrstians.

True christians and real jesus following christians.

Just to name a few that has been espoused to me.

WTKK radio, emanating from Boston to New England and beyond is working this unAmerican theme every day.

One of their lineup is calling for the third of Americans – sometimes he calls for the forty to fortyfive percent – to become a government in exile to fight against Barack Obama every single day. He likens them to the minutemen and Obama as King George.

He has declared that Barack Obama will never be his president and he calls others to join him in this “government in exile” which must work to make it impossible for Barack Obama to govern effectively. He is calling for them to work to impeach Obama.

While I know you can’t get the 14:46 back, please listen to the whole thing. This man has worked on campaigns for Pat Buchanan, George Bush I and Rudy Giuliani. He has stated many times that he believes in negative campaigning and that he has made many campaign ads.

After listening to this, selise wrote that the call letters of this station should be WKKK.

http://wtkk.everyzing.com/view…..atch=QUERY

I work with kids who are Arab, black, from Central and South America, jewish, christian and white. The atmosphere of America is being poisoned by this kind of hate.

Let’s stand up to it.

By the way, one of the kids is named Hussain.
He is sweet, hard working, wonderful.
Can you imagine what he is going through?

This unamerican campaign is hurting many.

The Republicans in general and Sarah Palin in particular ascribe to a manichean world view – good vs evil, us vs them. In their mind you’re either American or anti-American, good or evil, saved or a satanist. If you are not on the right side to are doomed and not worth discussing. Palin is running for VP of only one part of the country and her divisiveness aids in this agenda. She wishes the rest of us would go away and she prays for the day when she and her fellow travelers will be raptured to leave the rest of us to deal with the anti-Christ – and I don’t believe its rhetorical. She’s serious about it!

Classic Bachman:

“[Pelosi] is committed to her global warming fanaticism to the point where she has said that she’s just trying to save the planet,” Bachmann told the right-wing news site OneNewsNow. “We all know that someone did that over 2,000 years ago, they saved the planet — we didn’t need Nancy Pelosi to do that.”

~ Michele Bachman

via Josh Marshall — GOP Rep. To Environmentalists: Jesus Already Saved The Planet

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Interestingly enough NOBODY seems to be making the connection ,is that Bachmann is a graduate of Oral Roberts University Law School. She is also a tax attorney. Guess who else is a graduate of ORU? MONICA GOODLING?.Remember her? She figured prominently in th voter fraud scandal that resulted in the FIRING of DOJ attorneys,like David Igelsias, who REFUSED to undertake BASELESS voter fraud cases in states where GOP were in tight races against DEMS?HELLO!!!!!

(Further info on Bachmann’s Church)October 6, 2008 |

On its face, the case of the U.S. government vs. Living Word Christian Center in Brooklyn Park seems like an esoteric argument over obscure issues in the tax code and the organizational chart of the Internal Revenue Service.

But attorneys for the church and its pastor, the Rev. Mac Hammond, argued in U.S. District Court on Thursday that the case is about the First Amendment, separation of church and state and the reach of the government into the actions of religious organizations.

Magistrate Judge Jeffrey Keyes took the issue seriously enough to ask for more information from both parties. “It’s an issue I could see moving a long way through the courts,” he said.

The IRS has filed a petition in U.S. District Court to force the church to answer a demand for detailed financial information. The church declined to comply with an IRS summons in March, arguing that the request was overly broad, and that the law states the request must come from a “high-ranking official” of the IRS. The U.S. attorney’s office then sued to force compliance.

The IRS is interested in compensation for Hammond and the details of a relationship in which the church bought a jet for the pastor and founder of Living Word, which he then leased back to the church at a profit. The deal was questioned by a Washington watchdog group.

Hammond originally drew attention to himself by endorsing now-U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann for Congress from the pulpit, which violates rules for tax-exempt organizations. He later apologized.

Hammond is a proponent of the “prosperity Gospel,” which teaches that a life dedicated to Christ will result in spiritual and material riches for its members. He owns homes and property worth millions of dollars.

Pickard said the church was concerned about the potential for misuse of information about donors and members, as well as the broad net cast by the IRS inquiry into Hammond’s personal finances.

“He clearly is a target,” Pickard said.

Amy Rotenberg, another attorney representing Living Word, said the church is fighting the case for all religious organizations, not just itself.

“Living Word’s position is that it’s an unlawful government intrusion into the church,” Rotenberg said. “The impact on all faith communities is quite significant.”

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

BTW, if you live in the Minneapolis area, trot over to Living Word Ministries tonight about 6:30 PM. Tonight is an evening to honor Israel night. (google up their website,its on the homepage.) Gee, was Israel annexed into the US,too? I smell a whiff of CUFI,John Hagee and “Christian Dominionism” here. BTW

oops, I got cut off. BTW, John Hagee-founder of Christians United For Isreal, and McCain’s buddy, sat on the Board of Regents of Oral Roberts University,Michele Bachman’s old almam mater. Hagee and Palin are members of Assemblies of God and Joel’s Army,Christocrats and “Christian Dominionists.

Note sure whats above yet, but here is what I have seen elsewhere:

- she is the one that grabbed and fondled Bush at the SOTU speech
- her competitors ActBlue is just over 150k since the show

Elwyn Tinklenberg (MN-06)
http://www.tinklenberg08.com/

- petition for censure:
http://www.censurebachmann.com/

etc, etc.

This latest event actually got her in the local news and got some people to dump her, most of the other gems of her’s go unsporrted which shows how critical the buy off of the media has been (and where not possible its hobbling).

Thank god for the web. We have global communication…if we can keep it.

redX, How correct you are. The link between ORU and the number of Neocon Theocrats HAS NOT been vetted in the media. It was the express purpose of ORU to train the law graduates to infiltrate government to shape a THEOCRACY> This is fact. Sarah Palin is no doubt picked by the Israel/Christian Fundamentalist movement spearheaded by Hagee. Liebermann was keynote speaker at CUFI conference this summer in DC.This group is also tied to mega church Pastor Rod Parsleu of Ohio, also once tapped by John McCain to deliver the votes via Patriot Pastors. These people have this thread of “Chrisitan Minutemen” theology. Check out “Christian Mafia ” by Wayne Madsen.

Correction: Monica Goodlin attended Pat Robertson’s university,Regent, not Oral Roberts. However, the tenets of both Christian based law schools is expressly to develop attorneys,according to them, who will help shape the legal and political community to reflect Judeo-Christian values. ORU law school is now defunct.

Wow, that Bachmann woman is a lunatic.

I posted on that one too, actually…

http://firedoglake.com/2008/08…..f-the-week

It is said that when Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. To any here who are serious about learning how this culture of institutionalized intolerance has been allowed to take control of our government,PLEASE read “Expose: Christiam Mafia”,by Wayne Madsen,a former CIA operative. You will NEVER look at DC or the right wing Christian fundamentalists in the same light again. Folks, this is real. And the likes of Sarah Palin, John Hagee, and Bachmann are just tools of a far more entrenched hierarchy in our government.Here’s the closing pararaph of the article:

Sunday, January 22nd, 2006
Expose: The “Christian” Mafia, Parts 1 & 2
By Wayne Madsen

Journalist, columnist, and television commentator Bill Moyers recently wrote that “for the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.” Ever since Abraham Vereide, a misguided immigrant to this country who brought very un-American ideas of Nazism and Fascism with him in his steamer trunk, the so-called “Christian” Right has long waited to take the biggest prize of all – the White House. Moyers correctly sees the Dominionists or “End Timers” as being behind the invasion of Iraq. Moyers also rightly sees fundamentalist thought behind Bush’s “faith-based initiatives” and the rolling back of environmental regulations.

Hundreds of millions of people around the world no longer feel the United States is a country that can be trusted. They feel the people who run the affairs of state are out of control and dangerous. Considering the hold the Fellowship and their like-minded ilk have on the United States (and some of its allies) they are correct in their fears.

The political and religious dynasties who have embraced the Fellowship, Vereide, Fascism, Moon, Buchman, Moral Rearmament and all of their current and past manifestations, hatreds, and phobias show no sign of ceding power any time soon. There are many such father-son dynasties that hope to ensure a continuation of their shameful racketeering and political chicanery under the corporate “logo” of Jesus: George H. W. Bush to George W. Bush; Douglas Coe to David Coe; Billy Graham to Franklin Graham; Oral Roberts to Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson to Gordon Robertson; Jerry Falwell to Jonathan Falwell; Jeb Bush to George P. Bush; Robert Schuller Sr. to Robert Schuller, Jr., and Sun Myung Moon to at least nine sons (who are known about).

For them and their followers, they should keep in mind something Jesus said, “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.”

Amen