What can Obama do about these robo calls? We need some media attention exposing the racist nut jobs should help the undecided voters make up their minds and hurt McCain more than it helps him, but we need big media coverage.
I’m not rthat big of a believer in robo calls. If you have enough people to work the phones, you don’t need ‘em. Barack does in most places. they don’t.
We should ban robo calls that mention a politicians opponent because there is just to much wiggle room for lies.
Now if McCain wants to talk about himself and where he stands on the issues without mentioning Obama that would be fine.
Except the issues are not helping the GOP right now.
It’s beginning to look like Obama is headed for victory, barring any computer fraud or massive voter suppression. Should he win it will be imperative that those in the Republican party that have aided and abetted crimes against the U.S. Constitution and the American people be held accountable. To sweep all their crimes under the rug, as was done with Iran-Contra, merely for the purpose of comity will be a grave mistake. It’s time for Republicans to realize that there are consequences for their crimes. It will also provide a teaching moment for the American people on how the Republican Party is nothing more than a criminal cabal.
Heard that Joe the Plumber doesn’t like the Obama healthcare plan because it is “socialistic.” IMHO what the U.S. needs is a little more socialism and a lot less of it’s cannibalistic capitalism.
Don’t know whether you’re aware, but Cass Sunstein, one of Obama’s closest advisors, is firmly in the school of “let’s not criminalize political differences.”
did he make one last night on Leno? I watched but i didn’t notice. Maybe I’m just used to him by now. He was OK. Not great. McCain sucked on Letterman.
Obama has tons of cash he can afford a court challenge and a recount but will he does he have the stones to fight to challenge the Supreme Court if they do another Bush vs Gore and fight in Congress and the Senate if those Tools try stealing another election?
Having my communications with family in Europe monitored is not merely a “political difference”. Torture done to prisoners is not just a “political difference.” I’m aware that Sunstien is an advisor. Just hoping he has others that push for accountability and consequences for crimes committed by Republicans.
“I don’t have a drivers license. I don’t drive. I put in the last four digits of my Social Security number, and they still denied me,” Gross said. “Republicans have this state, and they want to stay Republican. They don’t want a Democrat, much less a black man.”
Truer words were never spoken. That said, we’re working on changing that. People here are beginning to wake up to the fact that the Rethugs have been screwing us for years. They’ve run the state into a ditch and no amount of spin will alter that reality. For the first time in recent memory more people are leaving the state than moving here.
Yeah! Robo calls are a political difference, not warcrimes! Hopefully Obama will get on the stick and purge the DLC and Blue Dog types surrounding him.
I have to admit, I’m not the least bit cocky. Rather, I’m quite worried. Ohio and Florida both have a history of stealing election. This things not over. The corps and the repubs have too much to lose (including jail time) so nothing is beyond what they’ll do to steal this election.
I wonder if the Southern Poverty Law Center the Simon Wiesenthal Center or other groups that watch hate groups have anything on Joe giving or being a member of a hate group?
If anyone does read this post (it’s long…sorry, but I had a lot to say! LOL), in the comment section read my comment at #17. This is a side story ending that was included in the original post.
I have a feeling the local republicans will hate my guts before the year is over. Or maybe the week. Not sure. Bah hahahahahahaha!
Okay, officially out of the shower, dressed, and heading to work in my 2002 Saturn with 162,000 miles on it! I wonder if Joe the Plumber has a Saturn like me? Huh. I wondah.
Ohio has a Dem as Secretary of State now not a GOPer the Ohio state GOP is the worry but the Sec of State runs state elections.
Florida has a GOP Sec of State I think.
The best chance the Rethugs have of stealing the election in FL is with purging the voter rolls, which Secretary of State Browning is doing with typical Rethug vigor. Those most at risk are those without a driver’s license. In those cases their SS number must match the data in SSA’s database, which I understand has a 40% error rate. That’s some really sloppy data inputing at SSA.
CNBC anchors just finished a segment where they were feeling sorry for Fuld of Lehman. Apparently there’s some talk of indicting him for perjury. Didn’t catch the beginning but gathered it has a lot to do with emails (bwahahahahaha). Oh no, they said, Fuld may be a SOB, but he would never lie. Now something I didn’t notice was any critique of how the other alternative is that Fuld must be a moron to be so totally unaware that his firm was about to fold. That’s what he said in his congressional testimony. It’s his story & he’s sticking to it. CNBC finds that completely plausible.
Alot of people are getting bounced. Pretty alarming. Might have helped a bit if we had a primary, registered people back then and if they got rejected maybe they could have fixed things before the general. I just hope we’ve registered so many people that even with their best efforts to suppress votes for our side it’ll still be enough.
Good Morning Everyone,
I’ve never listened to robocalls. I always hang up. It used to be that, in California I believe, it was not allowed. A live person had to ask if you would accept a message from a computer. That rule must have changed, though. I might check on that, when I get a free minute.
I don’t think so. Data entry at SSA is probably done by the lowest federal pay grade, GS-3, and the turnover rate may be high. Boring repetitive work will little chance of advancement results in less than optimal accuracy.
I think most of the new registrations came before the “No match, no vote” law went into effect in September. I fully expect the makeup of the legislature to change over the next two cycles and we’ll have a chance to undo some of the more odious laws the Rethugs have crammed down our throats.
With tin foil hat firmly in place…seems to me the ACORN thing is going to be used by the republicans to call the elections a fraud and enact some sort of block to them. When the corrupt DOJ and FBI announce such invesigations so close to the elections, with right media drums beating so loudly on this (with FOX analysts wondering out loud if the elections might not be over after election day) I cant help to believe we are about to see the republicans turn on America and refuse to lose.
They know they are going down and going down hard. They know America has had enough of their devisive tactics but they will refuse to concede. They (right wing, religious nuts, corporate backers) will not allow this to happen and the ACorn thing is how they will stop it.
Hope Im wrong but I see a major event about to happen with this election and I think it will involve the troops recently brought into domestic duty by Bush. Hold on folks…I think the shit is about to hit the proverbial fan and we are all gonna get hit. The right wing is not going to allow democratic rule even if it means martial law.
Oh, this week has pretty much kicked my butt. Still recuperating my little nerves from the fire on Monday. The entire land and hills around my community are burned black. Even the rocks are scorched. Neighbors are all still abuzz. Went to bed at 8:00 last night and woke up at 4:00 am. And, then, there’s all the election and financial news. And, I actually have a temp job this week. :)
Thanks for asking.
Oh, and speaking of pulpit. As if I don’t have enough on my mind, this Sunday is Laity Sunday and I’ve been asked to bring the Message. I’ve chosen the scripture that say’s Give unto the emperor the things that are the emperor’s and to God the things that are God’s.
Next time I say I’m bored, someone remind me of this week. Ha!
W on the defensive about “free market,” saying that it is not a govt takeover. Another example of his bubble. Doesn’t realize that most people would feel better if it were. Thinks govt will receive dividends from fincorps. Ha. If they don’t eliminate dividends under this crisis, they are completely irresponsible.
I can well imagine. On the bright side you’ll get to see the land rejuvenate itself. When I lived in Tujunga we’d drive up to the burned areas in the Angeles National Forest to see the new life.
You have a real excuse. Me? Up late here and baseball every night. My ass is dragon. If I don’t get some real shuteye tonight my ass is gonna be grass.
Relax. If the Dem ticket was Cindy Sheehan/Ralph Nader, I might believe that was possible, but with Obama/Biden, and the current crop of Dem “leaders,” BigMoney knows that not too much is gonna happen to them. They just gotta ride out a little storm, more like some drizzle, for four or eight years while they devise their next plan to take over and spread Death and Destruction throughout the world.
They might even like a little downtime regroup anyway. We’ll find out either way in the very near future at least.
You are so right. I’m wondering if we neighbors should get out there and nudge the process by planting seeds. I’d like there to be some growth before the rains come this winter/spring. (trying to to worry about mud slides.)
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What can Obama do about these robo calls? We need some media attention exposing the racist nut jobs should help the undecided voters make up their minds and hurt McCain more than it helps him, but we need big media coverage.
Oh and ZED!
I’m not rthat big of a believer in robo calls. If you have enough people to work the phones, you don’t need ‘em. Barack does in most places. they don’t.
What did Biden say that was stupid now? I love Joe.
Good Morning Blue Texan and Firedogs,
posted this last night
WaPo Endorses Obama
Yay!
We should ban robo calls that mention a politicians opponent because there is just to much wiggle room for lies.
Now if McCain wants to talk about himself and where he stands on the issues without mentioning Obama that would be fine.
Except the issues are not helping the GOP right now.
I thought they usually did the endorsement on a Sunday. Oh well. Doesn’t matter.
and miss a perfectly good Friday news dump?
True.
It’s beginning to look like Obama is headed for victory, barring any computer fraud or massive voter suppression. Should he win it will be imperative that those in the Republican party that have aided and abetted crimes against the U.S. Constitution and the American people be held accountable. To sweep all their crimes under the rug, as was done with Iran-Contra, merely for the purpose of comity will be a grave mistake. It’s time for Republicans to realize that there are consequences for their crimes. It will also provide a teaching moment for the American people on how the Republican Party is nothing more than a criminal cabal.
Florida defends integrity of electoral process. Rejects black and student registrations.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com.....9429.story
And the chorus grows louder.
Heard that Joe the Plumber doesn’t like the Obama healthcare plan because it is “socialistic.” IMHO what the U.S. needs is a little more socialism and a lot less of it’s cannibalistic capitalism.
I love him too. And usually, his gaffes are harmless and hysterical. Like saying FDR would have gone on tv immediately if there were a crisis.
Don’t know whether you’re aware, but Cass Sunstein, one of Obama’s closest advisors, is firmly in the school of “let’s not criminalize political differences.”
Check out this electoral map from my local rag today. What are they smokin’?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com.....6.htmlpage
did he make one last night on Leno? I watched but i didn’t notice. Maybe I’m just used to him by now. He was OK. Not great. McCain sucked on Letterman.
Obama has tons of cash he can afford a court challenge and a recount but will he does he have the stones to fight to challenge the Supreme Court if they do another Bush vs Gore and fight in Congress and the Senate if those Tools try stealing another election?
Crack?
Having my communications with family in Europe monitored is not merely a “political difference”. Torture done to prisoners is not just a “political difference.” I’m aware that Sunstien is an advisor. Just hoping he has others that push for accountability and consequences for crimes committed by Republicans.
Joe is a monkey repeating things he has not studied himself. Such men are easily led…into slavery.
Truer words were never spoken. That said, we’re working on changing that. People here are beginning to wake up to the fact that the Rethugs have been screwing us for years. They’ve run the state into a ditch and no amount of spin will alter that reality. For the first time in recent memory more people are leaving the state than moving here.
He’s registered as a Rethug and voted in the Rethug primary this year according to official election records.
Or skinhead. The corporate media loves the story of Joe no matter how phony it is.
Yeah! Robo calls are a political difference, not warcrimes! Hopefully Obama will get on the stick and purge the DLC and Blue Dog types surrounding him.
Don’t lecture me. Lecture Sunstein.
I have to admit, I’m not the least bit cocky. Rather, I’m quite worried. Ohio and Florida both have a history of stealing election. This things not over. The corps and the repubs have too much to lose (including jail time) so nothing is beyond what they’ll do to steal this election.
I see you have a Rethug leaning rag. We’ve got the Tampa Tribune, home of witch hunters.
Not lecturing just venting.
Morning all
SD is that why Crist is distancing himself from McShame
I wonder if the Southern Poverty Law Center the Simon Wiesenthal Center or other groups that watch hate groups have anything on Joe giving or being a member of a hate group?
Fair enuf.
Yep! We’re trying to change this, SouthernDragon! Barack said change begins at the bottom, so what better way then to start locally.
Here’s a post I did yesterday about our local republican Probate Judge in our county. He’s been breaking the law for years now:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.word.....ee-ballot/
If anyone does read this post (it’s long…sorry, but I had a lot to say! LOL), in the comment section read my comment at #17. This is a side story ending that was included in the original post.
I have a feeling the local republicans will hate my guts before the year is over. Or maybe the week. Not sure. Bah hahahahahahaha!
Okay, officially out of the shower, dressed, and heading to work in my 2002 Saturn with 162,000 miles on it! I wonder if Joe the Plumber has a Saturn like me? Huh. I wondah.
Ohio has a Dem as Secretary of State now not a GOPer the Ohio state GOP is the worry but the Sec of State runs state elections.
Florida has a GOP Sec of State I think.
Nite Folks
The best chance the Rethugs have of stealing the election in FL is with purging the voter rolls, which Secretary of State Browning is doing with typical Rethug vigor. Those most at risk are those without a driver’s license. In those cases their SS number must match the data in SSA’s database, which I understand has a 40% error rate. That’s some really sloppy data inputing at SSA.
CNBC anchors just finished a segment where they were feeling sorry for Fuld of Lehman. Apparently there’s some talk of indicting him for perjury. Didn’t catch the beginning but gathered it has a lot to do with emails (bwahahahahaha). Oh no, they said, Fuld may be a SOB, but he would never lie. Now something I didn’t notice was any critique of how the other alternative is that Fuld must be a moron to be so totally unaware that his firm was about to fold. That’s what he said in his congressional testimony. It’s his story & he’s sticking to it. CNBC finds that completely plausible.
No Obama yard signs in this neighbor’white’hood…they claim they don’t want to suffer any consequences.
Chain Gang Charlie does what’s good for Chain Gang Charlie. Guy is like bamboo, bends with the slightest wind.
Or bald-headed fart.
An outstanding goal and one that I share.
One can only assume it’s thugs doing the inputing. :-(
Alot of people are getting bounced. Pretty alarming. Might have helped a bit if we had a primary, registered people back then and if they got rejected maybe they could have fixed things before the general. I just hope we’ve registered so many people that even with their best efforts to suppress votes for our side it’ll still be enough.
Good Morning Everyone,
I’ve never listened to robocalls. I always hang up. It used to be that, in California I believe, it was not allowed. A live person had to ask if you would accept a message from a computer. That rule must have changed, though. I might check on that, when I get a free minute.
I don’t think so. Data entry at SSA is probably done by the lowest federal pay grade, GS-3, and the turnover rate may be high. Boring repetitive work will little chance of advancement results in less than optimal accuracy.
I think most of the new registrations came before the “No match, no vote” law went into effect in September. I fully expect the makeup of the legislature to change over the next two cycles and we’ll have a chance to undo some of the more odious laws the Rethugs have crammed down our throats.
(bows) Konnichiwa, demi
What brings you out this early?
With tin foil hat firmly in place…seems to me the ACORN thing is going to be used by the republicans to call the elections a fraud and enact some sort of block to them. When the corrupt DOJ and FBI announce such invesigations so close to the elections, with right media drums beating so loudly on this (with FOX analysts wondering out loud if the elections might not be over after election day) I cant help to believe we are about to see the republicans turn on America and refuse to lose.
They know they are going down and going down hard. They know America has had enough of their devisive tactics but they will refuse to concede. They (right wing, religious nuts, corporate backers) will not allow this to happen and the ACorn thing is how they will stop it.
Hope Im wrong but I see a major event about to happen with this election and I think it will involve the troops recently brought into domestic duty by Bush. Hold on folks…I think the shit is about to hit the proverbial fan and we are all gonna get hit. The right wing is not going to allow democratic rule even if it means martial law.
Oh, this week has pretty much kicked my butt. Still recuperating my little nerves from the fire on Monday. The entire land and hills around my community are burned black. Even the rocks are scorched. Neighbors are all still abuzz. Went to bed at 8:00 last night and woke up at 4:00 am. And, then, there’s all the election and financial news. And, I actually have a temp job this week. :)
Thanks for asking.
W finding the bullying pulpit not so effective.
Any chance that sort of work is being outsourced? Seriously! Foreign workers could certainly explain the level of error you describe.
Oh, and speaking of pulpit. As if I don’t have enough on my mind, this Sunday is Laity Sunday and I’ve been asked to bring the Message. I’ve chosen the scripture that say’s Give unto the emperor the things that are the emperor’s and to God the things that are God’s.
Next time I say I’m bored, someone remind me of this week. Ha!
W on the defensive about “free market,” saying that it is not a govt takeover. Another example of his bubble. Doesn’t realize that most people would feel better if it were. Thinks govt will receive dividends from fincorps. Ha. If they don’t eliminate dividends under this crisis, they are completely irresponsible.
W: “Don’t raise taxes.”
Congress needs to improve Colombia trade agreement.
We must not blur the line bet govt & proivate sector.
He is so totally clueless.
The guy from MCI tried to work the same scam: I’m not malicious; I’m just incompetent. Does…not…work.
I can well imagine. On the bright side you’ll get to see the land rejuvenate itself. When I lived in Tujunga we’d drive up to the burned areas in the Angeles National Forest to see the new life.
You have a real excuse. Me? Up late here and baseball every night. My ass is dragon. If I don’t get some real shuteye tonight my ass is gonna be grass.
W:
In the long run, this economy will recover.
How long?
Relax. If the Dem ticket was Cindy Sheehan/Ralph Nader, I might believe that was possible, but with Obama/Biden, and the current crop of Dem “leaders,” BigMoney knows that not too much is gonna happen to them. They just gotta ride out a little storm, more like some drizzle, for four or eight years while they devise their next plan to take over and spread Death and Destruction throughout the world.
They might even like a little downtime regroup anyway. We’ll find out either way in the very near future at least.
Your guess is as good as mine but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me.
Bush is all for American Capitalism.
Privatize the Profits, Socialize the Risks.
Those mega salaries are earned
Bring it, sister!!
W Speech was before US Chamber of Commerce. No wonder it was more than 3 sentences. Probably was all of 20 sentences.
Shorter Chimp: America, fuck yeah!
You are so right. I’m wondering if we neighbors should get out there and nudge the process by planting seeds. I’d like there to be some growth before the rains come this winter/spring. (trying to to worry about mud slides.)
David Paterson, NY gov, is going to guest host on CNBC for 2 hours on Monday.
(Since love is lord of heaven and earth)
How Can I Keep From Singing?
That’s my sermon title.
There should be an Extension Service from the Univ of CA in the area. They should know what would be the best approach to help regrowth.
If they are not held accountable they’ll be back and more dangerous than ever. Most Americans have a very short memory.
You can always borrow a little of Rev Wright’s rhetoric. Guaranteed to keep the parishioners awake.
How’s that wiretapping thing workin’ for ya, Renzi?
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi....._renzi.php
Absolutely
I want justice
Christy’s upstairs
Obama: Each Of Us Has The Responsibility Of Service In Our Communities, Especially Now
We can help keep that from happening by keeping our money away from them.
Ha ha. Well, of all the things I’m known for, meek and quiet are not on the list. I probably will raise my voice a bit.
Perfect! :-))
Music is like wings……essential for lifting the spirit and helping it soar.
the LA Times Top of the Ticket is a bit conservative and snarky.
not sure why the link, since it suggested Obama was wrong for criticizing FuxSnooze
Right you are!
This little light of mine…!