Comments on: The Plumber? http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:56:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686506 cinnamonape Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:25:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686506 <p>Well…Samuel J. Wurzelbacher did apparently live in Arizona back in the 1990’s according to these legal records</p> <p><a href="http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedockets/DocketDR.aspx?STYPE=1&PAR=DR19970476&STARTDATE=01/01/1900&ENDDATE=01/01/2100&PARTY=D,1" rel="nofollow">Samuel J. Wurzelbacher Divorce</a></p> Well…Samuel J. Wurzelbacher did apparently live in Arizona back in the 1990’s according to these legal records

Samuel J. Wurzelbacher Divorce

]]> By: blondie http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686505 blondie Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:56:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686505 <p>I saw the gentlemen interviewed on Good Morning America this a.m. He repeated the line about Sen. Obama tap dancing like Sammy Davis, Jr. When asked whether a person who makes $1 million or $5 million annually should have to pay higher taxes, he said no and spoke about higher taxes upon higher earners not being fair. To my view, he’s a flat tax-er, and not a typically Joe Six-Pack, middle American. He also said he doesn’t make anywhere near $200,000/year. So, when he was confronting Sen. Obama, it was all hypothetical — if I were to earn this amount of money, then I would have to pay higher taxes. I sincerely doubt that people would refuse to work to earn more money solely because they would then be subjected to higher taxes. Our nation’s tax history disproves that idea.</p> I saw the gentlemen interviewed on Good Morning America this a.m. He repeated the line about Sen. Obama tap dancing like Sammy Davis, Jr. When asked whether a person who makes $1 million or $5 million annually should have to pay higher taxes, he said no and spoke about higher taxes upon higher earners not being fair. To my view, he’s a flat tax-er, and not a typically Joe Six-Pack, middle American. He also said he doesn’t make anywhere near $200,000/year. So, when he was confronting Sen. Obama, it was all hypothetical — if I were to earn this amount of money, then I would have to pay higher taxes. I sincerely doubt that people would refuse to work to earn more money solely because they would then be subjected to higher taxes. Our nation’s tax history disproves that idea.

]]> By: MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686384 MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:31:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686384 <p>And THIS is what I love about the Mighty Tubes of the Internets! You guys are doing great! Information rocks!</p> And THIS is what I love about the Mighty Tubes of the Internets! You guys are doing great! Information rocks!

]]> By: stratocruiser http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686275 stratocruiser Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:55:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686275 <p>Ballpark rule of thumb in small company construction stuff. You bid a job and figure one third materials, one third labor and one third profit. That makes Joe’s income maybe $150-200K, before deductions and stuff.</p> Ballpark rule of thumb in small company construction stuff. You bid a job and figure one third materials, one third labor and one third profit. That makes Joe’s income maybe $150-200K, before deductions and stuff.

]]> By: VJBinCT http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686236 VJBinCT Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:54:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686236 <p>BTW, this whole thing about a $250K ‘threshold’ for a tax increase for small businesses is a bit misleading in that a business is taxed only on profits, not gross sales. As an owner you usually take what’s left over after the costs of running the business. In that case, there is no profit and so no tax on business income; you pay personal income tax on that residue. Unless you are a consultant working out of your spare bedroom, your take away as owner can be but a small fraction of sales. Remember that a big corp. can have sales in the billions, yet post a loss.</p> BTW, this whole thing about a $250K ‘threshold’ for a tax increase for small businesses is a bit misleading in that a business is taxed only on profits, not gross sales. As an owner you usually take what’s left over after the costs of running the business. In that case, there is no profit and so no tax on business income; you pay personal income tax on that residue. Unless you are a consultant working out of your spare bedroom, your take away as owner can be but a small fraction of sales. Remember that a big corp. can have sales in the billions, yet post a loss.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686234 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:18:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686234 <p>Joe might be buying out his dad and does not own his own business but he has listed himself as the owner on a state document.<br /> What Joe has done is tell everybody who might sue him in the future and contractors get sued all the time is tell the world that his dad still owns the business.<br /> His dad is now likely to get sued too in any lawsuit. Plus by misrepresenting himself as the owner he has given himself a strike against him in any court case.</p> Joe might be buying out his dad and does not own his own business but he has listed himself as the owner on a state document.
What Joe has done is tell everybody who might sue him in the future and contractors get sued all the time is tell the world that his dad still owns the business.
His dad is now likely to get sued too in any lawsuit. Plus by misrepresenting himself as the owner he has given himself a strike against him in any court case.

]]> By: Thers http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686229 Thers Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:45:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686229 <p>NUTS, Liberal Heart is right. Updated, cancel sirens etc.</p> NUTS, Liberal Heart is right. Updated, cancel sirens etc.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686228 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:43:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686228 <blockquote><p>Wurzelbacher, R M<br /> Cincinnati, OH 45213<br /> Cincinnati Dowel & Wood/Owner/Owner HALLECK, MIKE (R)<br /> House (OH 06)<br /> HALLECK FOR CONGRESS $200<br /> general 10/09/02<br /> WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M MRS<br /> CINCINNATI, OH 45213<br /> FRIENDS OF PHIL GRAMM PAC (R) $-500<br /> primary 10/01/01<br /> WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M<br /> CINCINNATI, OH 45213<br /> FRIENDS OF PHIL GRAMM PAC (R) $-500<br /> primary 10/01/01<br /> WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M<br /> CINCINNATI, OH 45213<br /> RETIRED<br /> NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE (R) $500<br /> primary 10/27/00</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Cincinnati&" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/by.....incinnati&</a></p> <p>Robert Wurzelbacher according to this has been retired since 2000 so his son has been working 8 years to buy his dad out? But his name not Rob and son is on the business name and on official State papers I think Joe already owns his dad’s business.<br /> Or he is guilty of something like fraud on a state business document.</p>

Wurzelbacher, R M
Cincinnati, OH 45213
Cincinnati Dowel & Wood/Owner/Owner HALLECK, MIKE (R)
House (OH 06)
HALLECK FOR CONGRESS $200
general 10/09/02
WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M MRS
CINCINNATI, OH 45213
FRIENDS OF PHIL GRAMM PAC (R) $-500
primary 10/01/01
WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M
CINCINNATI, OH 45213
FRIENDS OF PHIL GRAMM PAC (R) $-500
primary 10/01/01
WURZELBACHER, ROBERT M
CINCINNATI, OH 45213
RETIRED
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE (R) $500
primary 10/27/00

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Robert Wurzelbacher according to this has been retired since 2000 so his son has been working 8 years to buy his dad out? But his name not Rob and son is on the business name and on official State papers I think Joe already owns his dad’s business.
Or he is guilty of something like fraud on a state business document.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686226 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:33:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686226 <p>If we can an interview with his ex wife should be interesting.</p> If we can an interview with his ex wife should be interesting.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686225 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:33:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/16/the-plumber/#comment-1686225 <p>Anybody here know how to search if a Joe Wurzelbacher posts on any of the Righty blogs?</p> Anybody here know how to search if a Joe Wurzelbacher posts on any of the Righty blogs?

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