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	<title>Comments on: Did Obama Just Renounce Pay-Go?</title>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1687015</link>
		<dc:creator>gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Ian,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wanted to thank you for this post, and tell you that I was out of line on a couple of previous comments - sorry.  I am overzealous, and the tone of my disagreement with you wasn’t constructive.  I really want a change in government, and feel threatened at this time by anything that might dissuade people from working hard for something that’s finally in reach.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best, Gloria.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ian,</p>
<p>Wanted to thank you for this post, and tell you that I was out of line on a couple of previous comments &#8211; sorry.  I am overzealous, and the tone of my disagreement with you wasn’t constructive.  I really want a change in government, and feel threatened at this time by anything that might dissuade people from working hard for something that’s finally in reach.</p>
<p>Best, Gloria.</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1686504</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian Welsh:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What did you think would happen?  Obama is skilled enough as a politician to communicate this to you, while pundits won’t tsk-tsk him for the admission, or even realize he’s made it.  Obama knows he has to placate these little pissants for the moment, and that circumstances will render them more irrelevant than they already are; he doesn’t live for them and therefore won’t “change his mind”.  His mind is clearly attuned to events more than them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Welsh:</p>
<p>What did you think would happen?  Obama is skilled enough as a politician to communicate this to you, while pundits won’t tsk-tsk him for the admission, or even realize he’s made it.  Obama knows he has to placate these little pissants for the moment, and that circumstances will render them more irrelevant than they already are; he doesn’t live for them and therefore won’t “change his mind”.  His mind is clearly attuned to events more than them.</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1686200</link>
		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have perhaps misplaced faith that Obama actually understands some elementary economics, but this is just my interpretation of his various scattered statements on policy. They all fit together if he actually understands some basic macro.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, I was not surprised.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also read, when Obama is behind, that behind his friendly facade, that Obama was an arrogant SOB. (Maybe that is why he picked Biden, birds of a feather flock together!) I hope so, because that means he will stick with what he knows to be true.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have perhaps misplaced faith that Obama actually understands some elementary economics, but this is just my interpretation of his various scattered statements on policy. They all fit together if he actually understands some basic macro.</p>
<p>So, I was not surprised.</p>
<p>I also read, when Obama is behind, that behind his friendly facade, that Obama was an arrogant SOB. (Maybe that is why he picked Biden, birds of a feather flock together!) I hope so, because that means he will stick with what he knows to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: ondelette</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1686013</link>
		<dc:creator>ondelette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This was one of the big ones I noticed. I didn’t take it as a renunciation of pay-go so much as an embrace of Keynes. Which I found very satisfying, except we shouldn’t have this kind of debt built up at the beginning of the spend, but there’s nothing Obama can do about that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other big one was when McCain said that having an exception in an anti-abortion law for the health of the woman was a form of far left pro-abortion extremism. He was going nearly hysterical when he said it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one of the big ones I noticed. I didn’t take it as a renunciation of pay-go so much as an embrace of Keynes. Which I found very satisfying, except we shouldn’t have this kind of debt built up at the beginning of the spend, but there’s nothing Obama can do about that.</p>
<p>The other big one was when McCain said that having an exception in an anti-abortion law for the health of the woman was a form of far left pro-abortion extremism. He was going nearly hysterical when he said it.</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1686001</link>
		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just saw a clip of Joe the Plumberbutt with Legz Couric, and he sounds like a Lush Limpbaugh/Pox Newz drone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had heard the unedited clip of Obama talking to him for 5 minutes straight in detail and to the point about his question, and Joe is still saying Obama “tap dances as well as Sammy Davis Jr”?!?!?  After hearing the unedited clip I thought, “Wow, what a great answer and Obama probably won this guy’s vote.”  Now, he’s out there still ragging on Obama and talking up McInsane?!?!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously, I’m so tired of these self-proclaimed hard-working Joe NASCAR’s saying they represent the average American.  Joe, buddy, I’ve worked my ass off to come from nothing and own a business and raise a family also, just as you claim to have done.  If my personal income goes above $250K, I’ll gladly spend 3% more in income tax, as Obama explained to you in detail, which you seem to have ignored completely.  You do not speak for this average American (won’t even get into the Sammy Davis bit).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This “Liberals tax and spend” bullshit is so tiresome and so false.  Go ahead Joe and vote Repub up and down the ticket, since you seem so satisfied with how things have gone over the last eight years.  Please don’t give me the “Dems have controlled the last two years” line when Bush vetoes anything they try to pass of substance.  Yes, go ahead my friend.  People with your mentality are losing out now, and we’ll take it from here and clean up your mess, loser.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw a clip of Joe the Plumberbutt with Legz Couric, and he sounds like a Lush Limpbaugh/Pox Newz drone.</p>
<p>I had heard the unedited clip of Obama talking to him for 5 minutes straight in detail and to the point about his question, and Joe is still saying Obama “tap dances as well as Sammy Davis Jr”?!?!?  After hearing the unedited clip I thought, “Wow, what a great answer and Obama probably won this guy’s vote.”  Now, he’s out there still ragging on Obama and talking up McInsane?!?!</p>
<p>Seriously, I’m so tired of these self-proclaimed hard-working Joe NASCAR’s saying they represent the average American.  Joe, buddy, I’ve worked my ass off to come from nothing and own a business and raise a family also, just as you claim to have done.  If my personal income goes above $250K, I’ll gladly spend 3% more in income tax, as Obama explained to you in detail, which you seem to have ignored completely.  You do not speak for this average American (won’t even get into the Sammy Davis bit).</p>
<p>This “Liberals tax and spend” bullshit is so tiresome and so false.  Go ahead Joe and vote Repub up and down the ticket, since you seem so satisfied with how things have gone over the last eight years.  Please don’t give me the “Dems have controlled the last two years” line when Bush vetoes anything they try to pass of substance.  Yes, go ahead my friend.  People with your mentality are losing out now, and we’ll take it from here and clean up your mess, loser.</p>
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		<title>By: wwroda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1685994</link>
		<dc:creator>wwroda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;cool, I’ve missed late nights with you…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool, I’ve missed late nights with you…</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1685991</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A falling out of sorts, he does have his own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iamtrex.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;site…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A falling out of sorts, he does have his own <a href="http://www.iamtrex.com/" rel="nofollow">site…</a></p>
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		<title>By: RonD</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1685988</link>
		<dc:creator>RonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iamtrex.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I am TRex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.iamtrex.com/" rel="nofollow">I am TRex</a></p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1685986</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jumpin back in to say Hey! McFlame lost the debate because he forgot his lucky lapel pin.  Obama wore his new one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumpin back in to say Hey! McFlame lost the debate because he forgot his lucky lapel pin.  Obama wore his new one.</p>
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		<title>By: EdwardTeller</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/15/did-obama-just-renounce-pay-go/#comment-1685985</link>
		<dc:creator>EdwardTeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;off to watch the comedy shows……..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off to watch the comedy shows……..</p>
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