And now, the comments:
jayt Our beloved Nancy Reagan… Who has despised McSlime since he left his first wife…
Marion in Savannah Have we decided on a drinking phrase yet? "My friends" just isn’t healthy…
kittykitty mccain looks like he’s tryin to stay awake on ludes
FrankProbst Not only did McCain not answer the question, he didn’t make any sense.
selise just broke into the chocolate stash.
MrsK8 Hooo boy, McCain’s gettin’ twitchy already.
helibrarygal Well thank goodness I’m not drinking to McGrumpyPant’s smirks, I’d be on the floor already!
RonD That smirk is just irritating. Like, "how am I supposed to be serious when I’m on stage with THAT ONE?"
Florasmom I can save billions and billions – but I won’t tell anyone until I’m elected. the overhead projector again! holy cow. he is getting weirder
Suzanne i’m wanting a john mccain meltdown – televised nationally – for my birthday present.
Hugh McCain: I’m not George Bush
I just support all of this major programs.
jayt CNN must have hired some even stupider "undecideds". the squiggly lines look way different tonight.
eCAHNomics Oy, O supports tort reform, clean coal. Now there’s a real progressive. /s
MadDog If you’re watching on CNN-HD, notice on the Analyst Scorecards how Repugs Bill Bennett and Alex Castellanos are trying to work the Refs (American Public) by putting their thumbs down hard on the McSame scale.
Hugh Obama: You are George Bush
dakine01 McCain thinks ads that point out his lies are negative attacks on him. McCain is wrong again.
Hugh John McCain, all the panache of a 3 year old poo-flinger
MadDog Scheiffer, as EW predicted, lays out the Ayers question so that McSame doesn’t have to. Bravo EW! You called it!
Mauimom Sorry, but I don’t think Obama’s doing that well tonight. He’s attempting to answer McCain’s machine-gun fusillade of charges, doesn’t have the time to get in his own positive points. Schieffer is worthless. Giving McCain way too much time. Oooooh, "town hall meetings" again.
raisethebar McCain, angry and interrupting. the angry look went over like a lead balloon in the first debate.
Hugh McCain: I’m proud of the people who come to my rallies. Whine, whine, whine.
diggeracity well… a mooseburger in every pot.
Rayne Oh nice, avoiding Ledbetter…apparently McGeezer gives not a shit about women, can’t even bother to suck up to us rather than continue to pander to the far right-wing. Hello? McGeezer? Women are a majority in this country…you might clue in and suck up to them.
moondancer Krusty has a meth enema. I’ve never seen him so amped up, and so out of control. Desperation is sad on a broken old man.
MDMD Why, yes, we have *no problem at all* with nuclear waste. You’re exactly right, Sen. McCain.
JimWhite Barack’s squiggly lines on energy are better.
Wordsmith McCain’s left eye is going to fall out of his head soon.
Florasmom McCain’s eyes look like little black marbles.
darwin1800 McCain’s graphs look like Cheney’s cardiograph: _________________________



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Thanks for a great evening, Eli and pups. You were good company (my dogs and kid fell asleep in the first few minutes of the debate).
zed2!
any snap polls yet?
D’oh! Great job, Eli.
Happy Birthday Suz!
McCain sticks out his tongue before coming around the desk, then again after hand shaking courtesies. Wasn’t the lizard jut, more like the Einstein picture.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Nice snark Pups!
Did you hear McCain refer to Sarah Palin as “a breast of fresh air”?
Run the tape!
How do you all do this? Eli, you are a liveblogging god. I can’t even pay attention to blogging, reading, and watch!
MSNBC has a their poll up Obama 79% and change, McCain 15% and change.
ewww I looked at Fox!
Four “undecideds” decided on Obama. Nobody went for McCain.
Poor Brit Hume’s head gonna explode.
i wonder how joe the plumber appreciates mccain turning joe the plumber into a national televised tag line
*sigh* i did not get my birthday wish for mccain’s meltdown :(
McCain was full of shit and I know shit.
-Bob the Plumber
Tweety going all out to repair his yearlong misogyny, debating Mrs Greenspan over the most important line of the night. Andrea sez “I am not George Bush — you should have run four years ago!” Matthews sez it’s McCain’s mockery of “the health of the mother” which will not endear him to Hillary Clinton voters.
Does Tweety actually think Hillary Clinton voters might still vote for McCain? And that they care what Tweety thinks?
Tis a puzzle, that Tweety-mind
Eli. Good heavens. Thank you.
Oh Good … now we get Romney dissing BO … Hey Mittster, you lost to Johnny Mac !
I thought McCains off-camera gasps and snorts were disturbing. He is a sound-person’s nightmare.
Hi Eli!
McCain was the nasty old man
I’m right , you’re wrong, so shut the hell up!!
I think McCain did show his pugilistic skills tonight.
Too bad for him that it wasn’t a boxing match, for as an expression of his policies and how he’ll help Americans: EPIC FAIL.
McCain showed tonight that while Republicans are poor winners, they are even worse losers.
nice job Eli
and more Hippo Birdies for Suzanne
(5-1 Phillies, top of the 7th)
I mainly just had to copy and paste, really. The other people were doing most of the work. I didn’t exactly pay the closest attention to the debate, though.
that’s hilarious!
My prediction?
The Villagers will say that McSame did better this time around, so he “wins” because doing “better” is all that matters to them.
In reality, Obama did win, and McSame did better at coming in 2nd.
… and GET OFF MY LAWN !!!
Odds are McCain got the plumber’s name wrong, he actually goes by Chuck.
I thought I heard someone snort !
So McCain’s attempt at Gotcha’ with the healh care fine got him instead. Ah the sweetness of irony.
Oh, I forgot I was supposed to be concentrating on making a really quotable, snappy comment.
(hanging my head in shame, wahhhhhh.)
JHFC
‘Senator Obama, I am not George W. Bush’ is the ‘line of the night’ according to the pundits.
Why would anyone listen to these fuckers?
P.S. McCain was high.
LOL !!!
I was teaching confirmation class tonight at church, and then listened to the last half of the debate while driving home. I could swear that half the drivers on the road were also listening, because every time McCain uttered some lame talking points as his poor excuse for an answer, half the cars swerved in their lanes as if to say “What?!?!”
If there was a traffic copter up watching the whole thing, they could have used the video of the road instead of CNN’s dial lines.
i can believe that, first name “Up”
Grading on a curve of one.
McCain Wins !
… which means he’ll only lose 6% this week, rather than the usual 9 – 11% …
I think that McCain with his positions on equal pay and choice locked up the women’s vote –for Obama.
thanks Eli, great piece o work.
let’s fire all the pundits along with the bank ceos!
Mc definitely played up angry gramps, get off my lawn tonight.
Hate to sat it!!
He reminds me of my grandfather,only his opinion mattered and no one else was allowed to have an opinion!
Thank goodness Harold Ford is on MSNBC to tell me what I, as a loyal Democrat, should think.
Well, he was at least pooting hot air out of some orifice. I just assumed it was one with proximity to the mic but I could be mistaken.
Maybe he was deliberately “microtargeting” the grumpy old man demographic tonight. Shrewd!
All hail Eli
McCain was bitter alright.
Certainly wasn’t targeting women of child bearing age.
And hail the wonderful FDL backstage and tech crew
Thank goodness Harold Ford is on MSNBC to tell me what I, as a loyal Democrat, should think.
I’m just killin time watching Dancin’ Dave et al, waiting for Olbermann….
At least Lemmon and Matthau made “Grumpy Old Men” funny.
Up Chuck, good handle for a plumber, probably too conventional for a Palin.
CNN quickpoll
Who fared better in Wednesday’s presidential debate?
Sen. John McCain 10% 1675
Sen. Barack Obama 87% 13951
No clear winner 3% 427
Total Votes: 16053
OK.. I like this.. but, seriously, who the heck watches CNN? no way this reflects the country as a whole
If as McCain said he was taking the high road, it makes me wonder what the low road must look like.
Do you hear this idiot on C-span?
Wow, what a dick!
Evening Dawgs!!
An attempt at derisive laughter!!
Everyone thought that I-am-not-George-Bush line was the high point of the debate, but I thought it sounded like someone responding to “when did you stop beating your wife?”
Was there a joke? I didn’t hear it. Needed a little lighthearted moment.
The soft bigotry of beltway conventional wisdom. McCain said “I am not George W. Bush”.
I think Obama has a great sound bite…
Cue to a sarcastic voice…”Really? John McCain has voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time.”
McCain: “I’m not George Bush!”
-G
John Mcshames facial expressions tonight – angry old man caught berating neighborhood girls by parish priest
Quick vote on CNN right here
He had read all of those e-mails, repeated them all and the host didn’t correct any of them.
Great job, Eli
The Burning Question: Is Cindy showcasing costumes from the next Star Trek flick ?
I missed most of that. Not to fear, however, have a feeling I’ll be seeing them set to music soon enough.
Me, too! It’s good to get back to FDL, where reality reigns.
I missed you guys so much during the debate – my computer crashed ten minutes before it started and I’ve just got it back up and working.
I confess I missed some–I was so angry at McCain’s cheap shots that I had to get up and vacuum.
I’ll tell you what John McCain needed in that debate…
…he needed a WAAAHHHHMMMMBULANCE!
Dam crying shame if ya ask me Suz I was rooting fer ya to get your best Birthday Wishes(:>((
I think it passes through the earth’s core.
Is today your birthday?
Happy Your Day!
I got a beautiful star filled sky here I’ll share with ya.
My 54 To 41 ratfood
“I know George W Bush. George W Bush is a personal friend of mine. And I, Senator, am no George W Bush!”
McCain’s not faring well there
Barack again! By 87% to 10%!
John Mcshames facial expressions tonight
blinking wildly, grinning inappropriately, generally looking flat-out insane.
and it looks like the left side of his face is all swollen up again – medical records NOW!!
You’re probably the only one who did anything productive during the debate. The rest of us just got drunk.
And just because Bush has his hand stuck up my ass doesn’t mean I’m his sockpuppet.
Hillary is piling on McCain on CNN.
Suzanne -Is today your birthday? Mine, too! Happy birthday, girl!
Did anyone else notice that McCain implied, repeatedly, that Palin’s child was Autistic? Baby Trig has Downs Syndrome.
DailyKos poll-freeping mothership right here, if you are so inclined
“Winner” for the most predictable tired stale plagia-spinborrowed from Lloyd Benstson line of the night….
It’s probably the links on the lefty blogs. *g*
Tweekin’
Alice just phone in from Wonderland–the Cheshire Cat wants his smile back asap.
Oh, me too, big time.
Suz…we can pretend, fairly easily, don’t ya think?
Big Birthday Hug to ya.
*glug* … wasn’t that why we’re here … *g*
All the corporate media hacks are talking about “Joe the Plummer.” CBS even had him on the phone. He’s getting his 15 minutes of fame. The corporate media is enthralled.
LOL! Yeah, I get antsy when I’m mad.
Wanted to reach in and grab mcCain by the throat!
Oh also, McCain does this lizard tongue thing that I find very disturbing.
KO or Jon Stewart???? Decisions, decisions.
I know his advisers were telling McCain to be aggressive but his inability to control himself while Obama was speaking made him seem rude and childish, i.e. authentic McCain.
All hail Eli
Hear, hear!
I was six or eight threads back
ach well, so it goes.
Hey! Happy birthday, grrrlllzzz!
Hey! I was drinking beer, but I did get two sink loads of dishes washed. I’m still playing catch up.
In a heartbeat.
Hillary just did herself proud on CNN.
happy birthday, birthday triplet – we share with laura doty (and demi’s middle child)
Local media coverage is spinning that McCain was aggressive and took it to Obama. Pushing the “Joe the Plummer” storyline.
You should see him gulp down a gerbil.
CNN snap poll coming up.
His body language did not help him!
Oh good. Someone mentioned clothes.
I LOVED the colour of Michelle’s dress.
*ouch* … in 30 seconds, KO makes more sense than all the MSM talking heads did in 30 minutes …
anybody have that link to the joe the plumber interview??
I wonder if the negative campaigning question and argument got under his skin.
It may be why we were here, but my comment said that tejanarusa was actually doing something useful, as opposed to us.
Hey!
-G
KO live and Tivo TDS/Stephen
I say it’s definitely that the American people are not as stupid as they seem. They know mean-spirited when they see it!
Happy b’day!!
like my old friend howard used to say: she got the meat hangin on de bone.
Joe the Plumber! Speak up right now!
Yeah, it just made him seem petty, unhinged, not at all presidential.
Triple-tasking, good for you.
CNN snap poll (40% dem, 30% repub, rest undecided): Obama by double digits. Obama’s favorables went up, McCain’s went down.
Do you suppose none of these people – from McCain to Keith – realizes that Obama talking with Joe the Plumber is available on YouTube?
I had just watched it and sent the link to my ex 1/2 an hour before the debate. My jaw hit the floor when I heard McC twisting it out of recognition first thing out of the gate.
Oops, guess Keith knows. Naming him now.
“All hail the wonderful FDL backstage and tech crew”.
Hear, hear!
Obama impressed me with facts presented in a factual manner.
McCain impressed me as the typical vacuum cleaner salesman. Some pure lies, some grains of truth twisted into lies, voice inflections as if giving only me such a deal. . .
Obama gives me credit for a brain and having grown up past childhood.
McCain insults my intelligence and thinks I’m impressed with arrogance and anger.
Independent voter for Obama/Biden.
David Gergen: “Obama’s won 3 in a row.”
Commentary floating around the wingnutosphere via BBC:
When will the corporate media flacks recognize it?
If I was a computer liar, I’d offer you some non-chocolate cake. :0
I hope McCain hires Joe the Plumber to work on at least one of his 10 houses.
-G
Wanna bet one of the media types finds him tomorrow and he thinks Mc exploited him unfairly?
Holy cow! Faux News online voting: 69-31 for Obama on the debate!
I’m afraid I’m going to have plumber butt nightamares tonight.
((MWAH!!))
Oh, man, not again. I got the Dodger game on. What’s, or who’s, she dressed as tonight?
True dat! And I don’t think it will go over any better than it has before. Along with his cnstant interrupting of Obama. It’s just rude.
CBS Snap Poll
Undecideds -
McCain (R) 22
Obama (D) 53
this poll has consistently best held it’s numbers against the overnights
BAWAHAHAHA! Good one!
Realistic, delusional, resigned.
Hillary was, as usual, resplendent …
My faucets leaking
do you know Joe’s Phone#
But…but…all those folks must have been paid by ACORN!
Has Mish ever heard the phrase “damning with faint praise?”
Did Joe work for Nixon?
Free Republic is having a meltdown.
They are begging members to freep polls all over the internet.
Very satisfying, I must say…
Glas I wasn’t drinking when I read that
!
David Gergen just unloaded on McCain. CNN’s pundits are starting to all call it for Obama.
All his tics and twitches make look like he has stuff crawling around under his skin. I keep seeing pictures of him clutching a Starbucks cup. Clearly he should be on decaf, in addition to heavy tranquilizers. Cindy can undoubtedly set him up with the latter.
someone didn’t get their usual kool-aid delivery today
You guys are hilarious! Wow! And, Thanks!
Heh.
Favorable/Unfavorable
Obama, before debate: 63/35
Obama, after debate: 66/33
McCain, before debate: 51/45
McCain, after debate: 49/49
McCain LOST popularity.
Ponnuru is a Jack*ss !
They’ve already found him. CBS had him on the phone. Started an interview where he said he thought McCain did a good job…………..and then Couric said they were out of time and had to go.
Yeah, just after they gave it to McBatshitCrazySaint. Typical media whores!
How come everybody posted CNN’s snap poll #’s but not MSNBC’s…?
Or even Drudge’s…?
Calling all wing nuts,
John McCain doesn’t care about some warshed-up terrorist.
-G
Oh, I messed that up. I meant, I’d offer you cake, if I really had some. Son is off with friends. Go figure. Well, he did turn 21 today. (I’m not going to think about what he’s doing. Ha!)
I think that happened after the town hall debate, too.
((((( WDD )))))
Care for a Schott of Schnapps ?
It is getting close to Halloween. You guys play in Canada?
…Who is eight years younger than he is.
Oops, I mean glad, not glas.
Shorter Wingnuts: “Last one in the bunker, lock the door!”
I also like the implication that McCain would respect him more if he were still actively bombing stuff.
Lieutenant Saavik
Those are internet polls. CNN’s is a phone poll, which means it’s harder to freep.
Joe the plumber is Joe Wurzelbacher, and the raw materials are at the Family Security Matters wsebsite.
(I guess Republicans consider terrorists more admirable than college professors…)
Rumple?
Pour yourself a drink, you deserve it.
You’re in fine form tonight!
I noticed his hands looked raw. Looks like he’s got some arthritis in his hands and fingers as well.
Breaking news:
Warshed up terrorist doesn’t care about some warshed up politician.
-G
While we were busy watching the debate, the Asian markets were plunging.
http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/index.html
Holy cow! Faux News online voting: 69-31 for Obama on the debate!
jeez, the things I do for this election. I went over and freeped it.
I feel dirty.
I’ll drunk to that!
*hic*
New thread up.
Unless I’m mistaken, Ayers hasn’t made any public statement since McPalin started mentioning him. Smart for him and for Obama.
Well, thanks. I’ve moved on to my Calming Tea.
Did anyone catch what McCain said about putting soldiers to work as teachers?
Hillary was GREAT! And, I loved that suit & necklace…very classy.
Oh yeah … kids go out even if they have to wear Ski Jackets and Pants …
Who watches CNN?
All of us that like to watch squiggly lines. And the bars.
I noticed his hands looked raw.
well, at least his ring finger. Probably comes from all that twisting of it he does whenever he’s in the presence of The Divine Mrs. P.
Don’t go any where near Faux!
Oh wait The Simpsons!
I missed that one.
Can’t help wondering if the tongue movement is McCain’s variant (the maverick) of frontal release signs….
The pics I’ve seen of Ayers he looks so clean cut and American. It might help.
Don’t forget that calming meditation …
I could have some sympathy for him in that regard, arthritis has twisted my hands into unreasonable facsimiles.
Poor thing. He’s just a has-been. :)
I hate it when they make me wear those things.
Isn’t America a wonderful place!
Heh, those squiggly lines bombed pretty consistently when McSame’s lips moved…! ;-)
I read somewhere that he has had to leave the country.
Probably a good idea, wouldn’t want to pick up a DUI if you have to go post bail.:) Not that THAT will happen. Forget I mentioned it.
Ayer’s is a University professor, an author and respected member of his community. I’d like to know his definition of washed-up.
When they were talking about education all of us here heard what we thought was McCain suggesting that soldiers coming out of the Army could be employed as teachers in schools.
Were we all hallucinating?
hiya npb!
Yeah, I caught that. I thought he meant officers who already had a 4 year degree but wouldn’t need teaching credentials. I don’t like the sound of that at all. I have this vision of junior officers who “volunteer” to resign their commission so they can go teach. Not on my watch.
I know … who needs down filled jackets when you have Cognac … *g*
Romney says the mood is going to shift and be all McCain instead of Obama. What a crock unless he’s talking abt fauz and that’s what they already do.
Kirk as usual you bring a certain point of view and observation Dear John!! Ha ha ha ah ha aha ha
Just what we need.
PTSD cases teaching our kids.
Ask and you shall receive, if nobody else got this to you already! If the link doesn’t work, maybe you can cut and paste this: http://hotair.com/archives/200…..butionism/
Jane is up at Silo
I guess Johnny Mac wants to start training the next batch of soldiers for the unending WOT …
To hear the Republicans talk, you’d think the Weathermen had been successful domestic terrorists. I believe the only fatalities that resulted from their misguided efforts were two of their own members.
what’s this code word federalist mean that McCain said he was?
Well….
Winner tonight:
1 Obama
2 Hillary
3 Joe
4 Schieffer
5 Debate org lady
6 stray dog in the parking lot
7 McCain’t
No, I heard that too, and commented at the time.
My ex-mil as well. Wonderful woman, loved to china paint. Her fingers looked like gnarled tree limbs. Intentionally od’d on her meds because the doctor’s wouldn’t give her narcotic pain relievers because they didn’t want her to become addicted. She was 85. Absolute disgrace of the medical profession.
Exactly! The thought of that would be the best contraceptive.
He wanted everybody to know that he was looking over Hamilton’s shoulder.
Kerry stuck his tongue out and licked his lip all the time and that hurt him too.
There wouldn’t be a lot of spitballs in my classroom.
Something that I’d mentioned at the Beach House… Fresh outta the war zone, straight to the classroom…! I’m sure they’ll have the patience…! 8-(
Yeah, McCain said he thought military types should be allowed to go directly from the military into teaching without having to do any of those teacher training programs and get certified or anything.
He was talking to the soldiers and their families, did Obama?
I had to quit playing the guitar after 20 years. You learn to cope. Meds help.
Obama won another debate by sticking to the facts and by remaining Presidential during McCain’s lies and attempts to confuse the facts. It is time to put the champagne on ice because it will be a victory on Nov. 4th and it may be a blowout.
58/31 CNN says Obama wins
That was how I interpreted it as well and my response was kinda wtf? It’s a totally different universe and even if the person has conducted training in the military, it’s such a different world.
Eli, great job. Thank you!
2 of the debates McCain started out as a reporter, Kennedy, Mrs. Reagan…
Sounds right. Roughly one third of the population is delusional, probably the same people who still think Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
Technically it refers to states having primary responsibilities with a smaller government. To most modern Republicans it means they want to do away with our government and just have 50 states.
I think the debate was decided in a way peculiar to this time in the campaign and this time in history. When Obama speaks soaringly and amazes people it’s inspiring. When he contrasts and compares to his opponents it’s good. In this debate he began speaking as President about actual details and this, I think, completed the deal. The reason is that this year the economy stinks and we have a lot of serious problems and once the discussion got down to details it becomes clear the Democrats are favored.
So, when Obama spoke about education or health care it wasn’t wonkish or trite because he’d laid the groundwork long ago. Tonight he was just fleshing out the ideas and showing Democrats have compassion for people and can govern.
McCain was still trying to show his hatred of Democrats and all policies aside from the military. He didn’t have a vision for America or an ideology which fit the policies he’s been throwing out like meat to dogs. He’s inconsistent, confusing, contradictory at times and obviously not ready for this.
Every time McSame mentioned Joe the Plumber, I kept thinking of his crack…
707 !!!
Julia is upstairs!
Christopher Buckley Tossed from Dad’s Magazine