Sneaky, but effective… (Opps :)! Morning BT and All :))

‘States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 by removing the names of voters who should no longer be listed. But for every voter added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have removed two, the Times’ review of the records found.’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..DttRBh24cA

Re: Obama death threats at Palin rallies. Never fear. SS is on the case. /s
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/U…..92008.html

I read months ago that Obama had election lawyers in some states. Anyone know if this is true? I haven’t seen any reports of the national dem party fighting this.

“Help America Vote Act of 2002″

means…

Act like you’re trying to help Americans vote, when in fact, you are doing just the opposite.

Rove = Goebbels.

Interesting. The 538 page you link to says Mccain has a 0.32% chance of winning every Bush state. (That’s right. Not 3.2 percent. 0.32 percent. As in forget it. Obama meanwhile, in their view, has a 76.08% chance of winning every Kerry state. We really need to guard against too much confidence otherwise we lose. But if 538 is an accurate reflection of the electorate, it’s over.

What makes me particularly pleased about te 538 numbers isn’t just the fact that Obama is doing well but also that McPalin’s scummy attcks are being rejected.

‘morning BT

As Mc Nasty’s poll numbers continue to drop,we should expect even more garbage from these people.

I just pray that these two clowns never get anywhere near the oval office.

I assume so. i hope so.

More of that Orwellian stuff!!

Thanks for great links, BT.

Not that it will help, but I just sent a fax to McCain’s Washington office, reminding him that 18 USC 245 makes voting and campaigning Federally protected activities that he and Palin are inciting violence against. Full text in my Oxdown diary.

Did you see my link at 2?

Mornin’, BT, pups

Gotta be able to laugh in these times. This was the first Calvin & Hobbes strip I saw in the Rocky Mountain News in the early 80’s. Like millions of others I was hooked.

The Preznit speaks this morning. His comforting platitudes will surly help McPalin.

Hey ,any legal eagles out there?

If a riot broke out at a McCain / Palin rally,because of something they say, could they be charged with inciting a riot?

If they fax you back, it will simply say “POW”.

All of a sudden this moron has to try to act Preznitial. He speaks, the market drops another hundred points within minutes. Go back to Crawford, you fuckin’ idiot.

Thanks. Gosh, the Secret Service is so efficient, it looks like they opened and closed that investigation all in a period of about 24 hours.

Spit.

If we had a real Attorney General, I would forward my McCain letter to him, but it’s just pointless with Mukasey. Our only hope is to build some kind of social pressure pointing out that violence is not the answer.

Yesterday I suggested that we identify a group to start putting anti-violence Public Service Announcements on the air quickly, but I still haven’t thought of or gotten suggestions of which group would be best positioned to actually make this happen.

Every time he speaks, the market drops more and more wallets get closed. He should keep his mouth shut.

The Weather Underground.

Citizen billybugs:

The shit they’re throwin’ is to delegitimize Obama’s administration before the elction results are back yet…the fascists don’t wanna win this election they jest wanna tatoo the mess to Obama and the Democrats!!

Fuckin’ idiot doesn’t even begin to describe, SD.

They fear the socialism that must be enacted. But, this has come by their own hands. Acceptance is the last stage. I fear they will never get there.

Yeah, he does give idiots a bad name, doesn’t he?

W will assure the American people to have confidence in the banking system according to Dana Peroxide. Heard it on cspan so it must be true. Also Paulson to hold a press conference this afternoon.

These morons should REALLY stay out of public view.

Funny that the economic policies the reichwingers have feared and decried for so many years may just be part of the solution to their misdeeds. Capitalism isn’t going anywhere but there are some real controls that need to be put in place.

Stay out of public view, my ass. They oughta be locked up.

Yesterday I suggested that we identify a group to start putting anti-violence Public Service Announcements on the air quickly, but I still haven’t thought of or gotten suggestions of which group would be best positioned to actually make this happen

Why, for heaven; sake? We need people on the streets, we need people to act against these buggers, we need marches of a million people knocking down the doors of Wall and the WH, we need citizen action instead of the torpid leadership. Take up the pitchforks and run the bastards out of their ivory towers. Not that I am advocating violence, unlike McPalin, but we do need massive citizen action in the streets or we will just have the same corporate buggers do to us what they have done for years.

Any brave soul here read any of the reichwing blogs? If so, what are they sayin’?

I can’t believe he actually thinks he can reassure anyone, does he have ANY idea what’s going on?

we my ass

That’s the best way of keeping them out of public view.

Don’t have the emotional fortitude for wingnut blogs, but judging from the WJ calls, it’s all the fault of Pelosi, Reid & Obama.

My opinion is– doubtful.

53A AmJur2d sec 20 says;

Incitement to riot is a specific intent crime involving a specific intent to provoke a riot or that disorder ensue. To demonstrate that a defendant is guilty of the crime of inciting to riot, the state must prove not only that the defendant’s conduct created a clear and present danger of riotous behavior, but also that by such conduct he or she in fact intended a riot to ensue.

The gist of the offense of inciting to riot is its tendency to provoke a breach of the peace, even though the parties may have assembled in the first instance for an innocent purpose. There must be such action or conduct as will naturally lead or urge others to engage in, or enter on, a riot and if any person, or group of persons, arrange to so agitate the community that the expected result of the agitation would be a riot, the conduct constitutes incitement to riot.

A 10 million person march on the White House.

Man, talk about denial!

I was thinking that too. They fear socialism but show up at a rally for a guy who just proposed massive government intervention in the mortgage mess.

Wow, John LeBoutillier on Imus this morning. the Newsmax guy must’ve been eatin’ his Wheaties…or else he took a look at his quarterly portfolio statement.

As harsh a litany of the Bush incompetencies and dishonesties as I’ve ever heard.

And he scolded the hysterical guy from Waukesha and told him to look in the mirror…you voted for the last eight years…that’s how we “got where we are”

One hopes they re-play this during the 9 ET hour of the show…and that WABC puts it up in the Imus Interviews section. I know, I’ll hold my breath…WABC also owns the pimps of hate porn, so my expectations are pretty low.

The neck drooling knuckle draggers could go to Barack’s website to read about what he believes in, but that would be too easy. The McCain/Palin supporters would rather remain dumb and uninformed because this IS THE BASE OF THE REPUBLIC PARTY. McCain/Palin know this too. It’s the Dumb leading the Dumbers…

Hwey, billyb.

Remember. Jokes will get you moderated. We must be on best behavior, right? (ps. That’s kidding. Not serious.)

Had to reread what I said to make sure you weren’t accusing me of denial. *g*

It’s the meme that McPain are pushing, and the Rs are sticking with it. I got just such an email this morning from a high school classmate who will vote for Obama. I told him it was bullshit and he should stop drinking the R Kool Aid.

Could 10 million folks with torches and pitchforks marching down Constitution Ave be considered a breach of the peace or a riot? Actually, with that many folks that whole part of town would be wall to wall people.

I remember taht guy. He came in with the Gingrich wave in 1994 i think. One termer from upstate NY. He said the budget was like Tip O’Neil – big fat and out of control. Whe Tip was told that he said “Well I see the pup hasn’t been House trained yet.”

Here is video of Max Blumenthal on the Rachael Show. Why does Sarah hate America?

That crap worked in 2004. It won’t wash this time round. 20% ain’t gettin’ anybody elected to anything.

I dunno much about this at all. sorry. but scummy as Palin has been (and McSame now, too) i thinking inciting a riot is a stretch. Your example, i dunno.

I saw a tape of part of the “town hall” in Wisconsin yesterday. crazy people. I mean looney.

Yeah, ironic and devastating. I look around at the older set that I know and my heart breaks for them. They truly have picked the bone clean for these older people particularly, but some in the generation just after them are suffering too. Gonna be a long haul. :(

“However, he cautioned that at the McCain rally, “no Secret Service agent overheard any threatening statement and no threatening statements were reported by law enforcement or the general public.”
Well, it’s nice to see that the Secret Service has eliminated the ‘ability to hear’ requirement from the physical exam for agents.

What? No blame for Clinton?

Rest assured, that’s comin’ down the pike.

That’s the other part of it. It’s all Franklin Raines fault, i.e. Clinton, and Raines is now one of Obama’s econ advisors. So it’s all tied together & it’s all the Ds’ fault.

I told the emailer if that were true, why didn’t the R’s fix it in the past 8 years. I haven’t heard back from him.

They’d just rather throw their racist shit than actually do any investigation. They remind me of the army that was created in Lord of the Rings.

i just hope that Obama really wins some of these red states and doesn’t come up just short in them. i mean he’s obviously made progress in alot of red states and made them closer than they have been, but unless he wins them doesn’t mean much.

I couldn’t agree more. This fucker is toast, but Obama and his team are going to have to act wisely and fast(before Jan. 20). His team needs to evict the Chimp and his band of thieves Nov. 5.

I don’t think Shrub has to worry about what his legacy will be. Being described as worse than Herbert Hoover would embarrass most people but Shrub would prolly look at as a compliment.

there has to be some pushback againt all this shit. McCain did nothing except make one brief bogus speech in the Senate – which was mostly reading from a report without attribution (Plagarism , joe?).

Damn, why didn’t I think of that? Where are the Ents?

Too bad!
If violence were to occur at one of thier rallies ,it would doom any chance of winning in Nov.

Pach’s Landslide

OT, of course, but perhaps relevant in some way. :)
Some here will completely disregard the link below. Others will not ;)
You can ignore the ’star gate’ speculation etc, if that is not your interest or belief, but please follow the links.
A lot of very strange/unsettling coincidences/timing and odd people linkage/connections..
Question, ‘
Who? are those people being chosen’ to ‘fix’ the current manipulation/destruction of the US and its assets?’
‘What is their profession/personal history?’
And, ‘What are their profession qualifications?’

The truth can be hidden in strange places and with the way things are going in the country and world today, those people and their motivations, are FACTS we need to know and know about now…

p.s. For the christian/religious believers and students of history here, remember the Vatican has the best historical ‘library/time-line’ in the world. They are taking ’something’ seriously.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1150.htm

I got a call last night around 8 pm to come see Palin and McCain at a rally in Wilmington, Ohio. I’m positive they said Palin’s name first.
Problem was, the McC. site said the doors opened at 4 pm for this event. They must not have had a good turnout at all.

Is that what they were called? I couldn’t remember. Some of those fuckers in the McCrazy audience physically resemble the Ents. :)

We used to call ‘em “No Neck.”

The “crowds” have only shown up to hear Palin.
Once Palin makes her spiel ,the crowds begin filing out

Was it Sensenbrenner’s district? Not everybody in Wisconsin is Feingold….

Maybe, that’s why they activated that brigade on US soil perhaps? to protect the White house?.(only half jokingly, she says)

god, their leader is that too a ‘t’. I swear McNuts’ physical stature has shrunk considerably and a break-neck speed. Pun intended.

I’ve gotten two calls this week from the local Obama campaign. They’re doing an organizing thing this Sat afternoon at a restaurant close to me. Think I’ll go. Maybe some of the leftist will rub off on ‘em. *g*

I haven’t heard Senselessbrenners’ name in quite some time. Vacation over. :)

When I heard that I started stockin’ up on ammo.

Time to climb up onto my hamster wheel ,so I can run all day and get nowhere!!

Catch you all later!!!

Here I thought Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were to blame.

Wasn’t Prescot Bush an economic advisor to Hoover?

Yeah Palin/McCain is likely toast but they are setting the stage to delegitimatize an Obama administration. If 1/3 of the country believes he is a foreign, non-Christain, ally of terrorists then they will be on his administration like fleas on a dog. You thought they were bad during Clinton? Just wait. It’s time the Republican Party and their extremists be delegitimatized. Wouldn’t it be ironic if President Obama used the powers that Bush now claims and declared the leadership of the Republican Party a terrorist organization and gave them a holiday in Cuba?

really? that’s funny.

Ha! Good luck with that.

I do not usually visit the spooky dysfunctional side of town. But for firedogs, it is our duty to monitor Total Information Awareness, and their whining sidekicks.
“Our Final Days as a Republic?- A Communist America?”
One link is enough.
“Did Obama ever meet Louis Farrakhan?”
“Barack Obama Couldn’t Pass a Routine Background Investigation”
“Why Obama’s Communist Connections Are Not Headlines”
“What is it about Democratic presidential candidates and terrorists?”
“ACORN: A Clear and Present Danger”
“Mattel Gambles on Pricey Elmo for Holidays ($60 Elmo doll)”

don’t know. Not even sure why they ere there. WI is pretty safe for us isn’t it?

Anything’s possible. I see Kucinich and Feingold as the blood hounds on that front.

Actually, most members of Congress, RayGuns, Bush, Clinton and Shrub and their cabinets are all to blame. They saw nothing but power and wealth beyond their wildest dreams and followed that path of destruction to where we are today.

Dunno, I’d have to look it up.

Malkin is ACORN, ACORN and some ACORN.

A challenge I can’t resist. Might even wear my Trotsky t-shirt.

I have had 2 calls by auto recordings that have asked questions about who I was voting for and the auto recording also asked after 6 or 7 questions how many guns we owned. That is no one’s business but why would they ask that? I don’t remember who the auto recording said was making the survey, but my question is WHY would some one want to know how many guns a person had in their home and who is stupid enough to tell strangers/auto recording/someones database? WHY DO THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT?

Some will get it, most will not. I’m still of the opinion that we all have to meet somewhere left of middle, but extremism is not the answer at this point in time. I know you disagree with me on this. Not trying to start a fight, just expressing my thoughts. PEACE.

Mattel Gambles on Pricey Elmo for Holidays ($60 Elmo doll)

We have a winnah!!!

Fuckin’ morons. But there will be people who will make that purchase. I call ‘em fenderheads cuz all they’re good for is to keep the boat from bangin’ into the dock.

anybody buy any stuff from OPbama’s website? My stuff is taking a long time.

Some one on the news this morn said their (MCSAme/Rep) party is fractured and they are (still) trying to get their party to come together.

Don’t have the emotional fortitude for wingnut blogs, but judging from the WJ calls, it’s all the fault of Pelosi, Reid & Obama.

Bullshit. Plain and simple.

The wingnuts have been in charge for the last eight years while this mess has been brewing, and don’t have the guts to own it, but own it they will.

According to Scarborough, it was Barney Frank. I guess he pulled a reverse Norquest, and singlehandedly sent capitalism down the drain.

How far left of middle are ya talkin’ about? Extremism doesn’t work, right or left. We’ve seen enough examples to know that. Centrism to me means no vision, no ideas, continue with the status quo. A “don’t worry, be happy” mindset. I like to wear Trotsky for the shock value. Doesn’t shock so much when a lot ask, “Who’s Trotsky?”

Yeah, she’s a nut, alright.

“all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.” What a pity.

Interesting. And good question.

Yes, it took about a week.

Remember Schrub said he would sprint till the end. He didn’t mention it was because he was being run out of town.

Variations on a theme.

Whatever happened to the “4 to 6 weeks” delivery time us old folks are used to dealin’ with?

He’d better be able to do better than sprint. Even with bad knees I’d catch that fucker. Nothin’ like motivation.

I believe President Obama will surprise many of those who have been disappointed with his ‘middle’ views during this election, once he is in office. This economic crisis is the perfect set-up for his views on how this country needs to be run. His views are more left of center than he has shown up to now. He had to get the middle-of-the-road voters to vote for him. But, it’s obvious that his governance philosophy is going to have to be more left just to get us out of this mess. It’s a win for him and us.

That’s funny. His economic advisors are from U. Chicago, not generally known to be left of center.

I agree with that. I’m interested in who his cabinet and other advisers will be. His current advisers only piss me off but ya gotta get elected afore ya can do anything. If I ever got within earshot of Albright she would certainly be the recipient of a vitriolic earful.

some how im comforted by your wise presence here….im teh nervous,never seen anything like this

I understand his taking them on but I’ve never liked it. Now that their Friedmanesque “free market” theories have been shot to hell I wonder what their advice has been lately.

This nation is sinking into a very dangerous place.

-G

Hey Plunger,

You seem to have some good insight to the financial markets the other day. Whats brewin’ for today in your opinion??

As for the idiots in the video above. They don’t drink the ‘R’ kool-aide, they get enemas w/ it!!

The people in this video are a reflection of the majority of the population of my city. I don’t talk politics with ANYONE here, they don’t listen to reason. They will start yelling, go straight into the dead fetuses on slabs, sucking out brains, and they don’t want to hear anything other than what they have been programed to believe. They also consider the war, economic crisis, and every bad thing attached to the GOP as collateral damage in the mission to force their idea of Christian values on our nation.

Just. Plain. Crazy.

Here is a website to see if you can vote. Click the state you live in, put in your name, birth month and year and zip code. It said I was a registered voter and had 2 places that I should be able to vote at and the top choice was correct. With all the purging going on we need to get this out there so people can find out if they have been taken off the voting roles before it’s too late to do anything abt it.

http://www.canivote.org/

Obama’s econ advisors are from the Behavioral Economics school, not the Friedman school. Behavioral economics has not been discredited, but it’s pretty marginal for ability to explain macroeconomic events. (Disclaimer: I like behavioral economics for explaining certain phenomena, but it’s not sufficient in & of itself.) I also have suspicions that propinquity with the Friedmanics may have some influence on the behavioralists, but no evidence to support that suspicion.

I think we’re all somewhat apprehensive of what’s going on but I have faith in the common folk. They, we, will band together to weather this and we won’t need a world war to pull us out of it. The rich fucks thought they could leave us all to swim on our own. Fine. Let’s see how well they get through this.

Get yer toilet looked at before the floor gets ruined.

Anyone know at what time the official Palin/Troopergate report is being released?

all european markets have suspended short selling… me likey

Me neither. And I lived thru some pretty scarey events on Wall St.

yes some of the churches have promulgated this for 50 years

And what city would that be?

im afraid to call my mother(trustee of my trust)….gaw..i hope my dipshit(MD) brother has gotten her out of the crap he let her get into….crosses every digit

no evidence to support that suspicion

Eyes, awareness and experience spell evidence for a lot of things in my book. I too appreciate your insights. I can hold my own on basic theory but I need help in the nitty gritty of a lot of it.

McCain should go down in history as a total disgrace for his efforts at fanning the flames of hatred and fear.

A true follower getting tugged along by the rabid mob.

Heckuva job Johnny.

-G

I heard sometime this morning, Alaskan time.

short selling is totally unhelpfull in this market

he will remembered like Benedict Arnold imo

Belton, Missouri.

Off to swim in the great capitalist (bwahahahahahahahahaha) cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

9 AM but not sure if that is PDT.

I don’t know anything about UofC economists. What I do know is that there is going to have to be a complete overhaul of economic philosphy over the next several years. Those economists may have to rethink their positions. Obviously, what we’re going through right now has never been seen before. Not even in the 30’s. It’s a completely morphed animal. Has your economic philosophy changed recently due to this extraordinary financial situation that many countries are facing?

The Gipper speaks — Reagan for Obama — Must See TV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqfedYAAGEI

I doubt that the Friedmanics will change their minds. They (like died-in-the-wool communists) will argue that everything went awry because the U.S. never really did what the theory said should be done.

Many responsible economists will indeed study this episode & change their minds. However, since there have been so many crises in the past, economists in power can certainly be criticized for not paying attention.

Thanks! I too, like many others here, appreciate your expertise. Have a great day and don’t let ‘em take you under.

Keep your head down and out of the line of fire. I live in a small town that has voted Democratic in the last 4 presidential elections. Knowing they are mentally bewildered, we tolerate Republicans.

Thanks to all for compliments. *blushing*

The only way I can cope with disaster is to become hyperrational.

A story: On the day of the stock market crash in 1987, I was in my office calculating what the so-called wealth effect would do to consumer spending. Early afternoon, I got a call from the person who arranged research calls. I told her I knew what she wanted to know & was working on it. She arranged a research call for the close of market with a technical analyst who compared it to other stock market crashes, me on the economic implications, and the portfolio strategist on the market implications. Trading that day went on until nearly 5 o’clock, and the head of equities, a stout Cuban, marched around the trading floor with a dead cigar in his mouth telling the traders to keep on the phones & do their jobs. When trading ended, we did our research call. We did it again at 7:15 the following morning. It put rational words into the sales force mouths, that they could call clients and have a rational discussion. It was First Boston’s finest hour, and I think it was a small step in calming panic. Doesn’t look like that’s going on anywhere today.

Wow! Great story and too bad this time it’s 100x worse.