Comments on: Obama Closing The Deal: 80% Of Undecideds See Him Favorably http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:07:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mauimom http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674353 Mauimom Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:58:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674353 <p>(((Christy))) my thoughts are with you.</p> (((Christy))) my thoughts are with you.

]]> By: Mauimom http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674351 Mauimom Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:54:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674351 <blockquote><p>IIRC, Ian and people such as Krugman thought buying preferred shares of bank stock was superior to buying the actual mortgage backed securities. It’s cheaper, faster, and the government doesn’t have to be the first to assign a value.</p></blockquote> <p>I too was thinking that any Fed influx of $$$ should result in getting “shares” of the bail-ee. That would give the bail-or shareholder status. As such, he/she/it could bring a shareholder suit against the company for the excessive compensation/golden parachute packages the Board okayed, and possibly recover some of that money. </p> <p>[As an aside, I could never understand — well, actually, I could: Paulson — why the Fed’s didn’t demand, as a condition of their various forms of rescue, that all execs in the “rescued” companies surrender their stock & stock options as a condition of the deal. Bonuses too. This would have avoided the Hank Greenburgs of the world selling $18 mill of AIG stock <strong>after</strong> the infusion of Federal cash, which of course pushed the previously toilet-bound stock price higher, and voila, more $$$$ for Greenburg.]</p>

IIRC, Ian and people such as Krugman thought buying preferred shares of bank stock was superior to buying the actual mortgage backed securities. It’s cheaper, faster, and the government doesn’t have to be the first to assign a value.

I too was thinking that any Fed influx of $$$ should result in getting “shares” of the bail-ee. That would give the bail-or shareholder status. As such, he/she/it could bring a shareholder suit against the company for the excessive compensation/golden parachute packages the Board okayed, and possibly recover some of that money.

[As an aside, I could never understand — well, actually, I could: Paulson — why the Fed’s didn’t demand, as a condition of their various forms of rescue, that all execs in the “rescued” companies surrender their stock & stock options as a condition of the deal. Bonuses too. This would have avoided the Hank Greenburgs of the world selling $18 mill of AIG stock after the infusion of Federal cash, which of course pushed the previously toilet-bound stock price higher, and voila, more $$$$ for Greenburg.]

]]> By: dipper http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674241 dipper Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:02:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674241 <p>Christy and Family,<br /> I’m sending you all hugs. So sorry about your loss.</p> Christy and Family,
I’m sending you all hugs. So sorry about your loss.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674238 cinnamonape Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:51:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674238 <p>Yeah…in particular he said “everything I learned about leadership…”</p> <p>Maybe that means we should just shut down the Military Academies…where they are supposedly training leaders…and hand the job over to the CPO’s?<br /> It’d save a lot of Federal money!</p> <p>Of course, McCain didn’t learn anything from Reagan about leadership. Maybe he played one in a movie?</p> <p>Was Nixon a Chief Petty Officer?</p> Yeah…in particular he said “everything I learned about leadership…”

Maybe that means we should just shut down the Military Academies…where they are supposedly training leaders…and hand the job over to the CPO’s?
It’d save a lot of Federal money!

Of course, McCain didn’t learn anything from Reagan about leadership. Maybe he played one in a movie?

Was Nixon a Chief Petty Officer?

]]> By: jaycarsonian http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674237 jaycarsonian Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:51:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674237 <p>Hahaha, yes that was excellent. I can see the class dunce standing there with his shi$ eating grin. McCain is so shaky and awkward. All of his “moments of levity” fall flat. He’s got no delivery.</p> <p><a href="http://thejoftoday.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">The J of Today</a></p> Hahaha, yes that was excellent. I can see the class dunce standing there with his shi$ eating grin. McCain is so shaky and awkward. All of his “moments of levity” fall flat. He’s got no delivery.

The J of Today

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674235 cinnamonape Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:48:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674235 <p>I mentioned last night on the live blog that the audience was looking real uncomfy with creepy Old guy practically lap-dancing with them.</p> <p>Frottage anyone?</p> <p>And I wonder if there has ever been a case in a Presidential debate where the candidate actually reached out and touched an audience member? McCain actually shook hands with the Navy guy…which I suspect was against the rules. After all, the audience is not supposed to “react” to the answers…yet McCain practically forced it.</p> <p>I was sort of hoping that the guy would have rejected the hand leaving Johnny Mac standing there with an empty hand!</p> I mentioned last night on the live blog that the audience was looking real uncomfy with creepy Old guy practically lap-dancing with them.

Frottage anyone?

And I wonder if there has ever been a case in a Presidential debate where the candidate actually reached out and touched an audience member? McCain actually shook hands with the Navy guy…which I suspect was against the rules. After all, the audience is not supposed to “react” to the answers…yet McCain practically forced it.

I was sort of hoping that the guy would have rejected the hand leaving Johnny Mac standing there with an empty hand!

]]> By: nostick http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674233 nostick Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:37:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674233 <p>I don’t write this to be nasty, but McCain is a beta male struggling for alpha status.</p> I don’t write this to be nasty, but McCain is a beta male struggling for alpha status.

]]> By: Knut http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674226 Knut Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:17:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674226 <p>I consider myself a pretty good seat-of-the-pants macroeconomist (I was trained by Jim Tobin), but I’m getting pretty lost at this point on what should be done to contain the crisis. It has grown so big that it overwhelms one’s normal analytical capacity. The magnitude of the meltdown makes it qualitatively new. I don’t have much confidence in Bob Rubin at this point, a little more in Larry Summers perhaps. But I think at this point there isn’t anyone yet who has a grasp on what policy levers we have to stop the economic hemhorraging.</p> I consider myself a pretty good seat-of-the-pants macroeconomist (I was trained by Jim Tobin), but I’m getting pretty lost at this point on what should be done to contain the crisis. It has grown so big that it overwhelms one’s normal analytical capacity. The magnitude of the meltdown makes it qualitatively new. I don’t have much confidence in Bob Rubin at this point, a little more in Larry Summers perhaps. But I think at this point there isn’t anyone yet who has a grasp on what policy levers we have to stop the economic hemhorraging.

]]> By: hazmaq http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674225 hazmaq Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:17:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674225 <p>And what does our bestest ever ally think of the debate??</p> <p>Through continuing polls taken by the Guardian - they gave the VP debate to Biden 84-16.</p> <p>For Prez., so far Obama has blown out McCain 93-7 - and the poll has another day to go </p> <p>Nothing like the “bi-partisan” team of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Sarah Palin to make you run screaming to a Monarch.</p> And what does our bestest ever ally think of the debate??

Through continuing polls taken by the Guardian – they gave the VP debate to Biden 84-16.

For Prez., so far Obama has blown out McCain 93-7 – and the poll has another day to go

Nothing like the “bi-partisan” team of Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Sarah Palin to make you run screaming to a Monarch.

]]> By: joelmael http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674197 joelmael Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:55:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/obama-closing-the-deal-80-of-undecideds-see-him-favorably/#comment-1674197 <p>McCain: Everyhting I know I learned from a chief petty officer. Um– the thing is I didn’t pay much attention at Annapolis, graduated fifth from the bottom.</p> McCain: Everyhting I know I learned from a chief petty officer. Um– the thing is I didn’t pay much attention at Annapolis, graduated fifth from the bottom.

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