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Early Morning Swim: Presidential Debate Preview Edition

By: Blue Texan Tuesday October 7, 2008 4:58 am
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  • Tonight, the Town Hall-style debate in Nashville.
  • If McSame had any guts, he'd call Obama a terrorist to his face.
  • But that's probably not gonna happen. 
  • Are these character smears coming too late?
  • Obama increases lead in NBC/WSJ poll.
  • And CNN poll. And key battlegrounds.
  • Dow dropped to below 10,000 yesterday.
  • NYTimes on the bailout: "a pebble tossed into a churning sea."
  • Uh, weird?
  • Palin will be calling Obama "Osama" in Florida again today.
  • Maybe they'll be another racial incident!

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90 Responses to “Early Morning Swim: Presidential Debate Preview Edition”

View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:04 am
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No war but class war. Now!

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JimWhite October 7th, 2008 at 5:04 am
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Great links, as usual, BT.

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View this users Facebook profile Raven October 7th, 2008 at 5:06 am
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CLEARWATER — Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn’t permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, “Can I help you?” and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn’t allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.
– Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:07 am
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In response to JimWhite @ 2

Yup.

BT, how ’bout giving us some insights on Afghanistan? After all, it’s right next door to ya.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:09 am
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If McSame had any guts, he’d call Obama a terrorist to his face.

Never happen. Mr. POW hero is a wussy in his old age.

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Waccamaw October 7th, 2008 at 5:10 am
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Apparently there’s one writer for AP who has a set of b*lls (and it’s a female *g*):

“Palin pledges of Alaska sunshine marred by secrets”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....pv9yuyFz4D

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:12 am
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In response to Raven @ 3

Missed the community radio evening news last night so didn’t get to hear the dirt. Adam Smith, the Times’ political editor, wrote this piece of Palin love. Smith is an unapologetic GOP hack. I’ll take the Clearwater police estimate over the GOP’s any day.

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merkwurdiglieber October 7th, 2008 at 5:15 am
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Who knew that the standard set by Dubya the Magnificent would be lowered
by fly-boy Johnny and his new squeeze… it all must remind McCain of a
joke from his era about the difference between a tribe of pygmies and a
womwn’s track team. Be careful what you ridicule, you might see it in the
mirror one day.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:17 am
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Alan Grayson is pretty popular here. Running for Gongress in the CD next to me. Article about his opponent, Keller, and my congressman,too.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com.....257.column

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plunger October 7th, 2008 at 5:21 am
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At least the destruction of America was a bipartisan undertaking (thanks to the King Of America, David Rockefeller).

Paul Craig Roberts - Reagan’s Assistant Treasury Secretary:

http://www.americanfreepress.n.....00608.html

Learn about America’s new currency, the Amero, here:

http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 5:28 am
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Yesterday, I spent two-and-a-half hours in a doctor’s waiting room, with Fox news hard-wired into the TV. It was my idea of hell, but I did notice that none of the other patients started loudly spouting their opinions about “them libruls”, etc.. They sat through Palens crap, repeated every ten minutes or so, with pretty grim silence or talking about other subjects. So, things are looking up. That’s about as good as it gets in Texas.

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KayInMaine October 7th, 2008 at 5:29 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 11

I would have giggled when Palin was talking just to get the ‘wave’ in the waiting room started. ;-)

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foothillsmike October 7th, 2008 at 5:31 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 5

If Obama had any guts he would call McShame a liar and say that the reason that McShame cannot look him in the eye is that McShame knows he is a liar and what a sleazy campaign he is running

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Badwater October 7th, 2008 at 5:31 am
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In response to merkwurdiglieber @ 8

McCain didn’t realize that by selling his soul to Bush family he’d be used to try to make W look better.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:32 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 11

Can you see Afgahnistan from your window?

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View this users Facebook profile Raven October 7th, 2008 at 5:33 am
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Isn’t “kill him” a threat against a secret service protected candidate at a secret service protected event? And those dudes don’t have those events wired?

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JimWhite October 7th, 2008 at 5:33 am
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In response to KayInMaine @ 12

Nah, I was at a Holiday Inn Express last weekend and I just said, very loudly, when Palin came on Faux News in the breakfast area “What a moron!”. Nobody came after me. If they have Faux News on, I guess they’re not as smart as they claim…

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eCAHNomics October 7th, 2008 at 5:35 am
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Sarah Palin gonna spoof Tina Fey on SNL, not this week, but next. Not finalized yet.

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View this users Facebook profile Raven October 7th, 2008 at 5:36 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 18

what spoof?

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 5:36 am
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In response to KayInMaine @ 12

I was braced to go cancel my appointment and say something about the Fox News and stalk out, but stuck it out after I noticed I wasn’t going to have to get huffy or pick a fight. It has been a rare thing around here, when some big mouth isn’t bloviating with the assumption that everyone loves Limbaugh. But it seems I increasingly detect an air of embarrassed silence.

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KayInMaine October 7th, 2008 at 5:37 am
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In response to JimWhite @ 17

LOL Jim! Excellent! We need more Americans like you. ;-)

Okay, going to work. Have a great day everyone!

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:38 am
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In response to Raven @ 16

If I were Obama I’d get the Black Panthers to replace the SS as security. Today’s Secret Service would probably help an assassin.

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 5:38 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 15

Not quite, but I am an expert on Oklahomans.

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eCAHNomics October 7th, 2008 at 5:39 am
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In response to Raven @ 19

According to the person on cspan, they’re talking about Palin’s doing Fey’s Amex commercial.

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:40 am
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bom dia pups

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selise October 7th, 2008 at 5:40 am
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re tonight’s debate - i missed this analysis (from a couple of days ago) on the VP debate.

VP Debate an Exchange of Disinformation
by Stephen Zunes

The Oct. 2 debate between Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was disturbing for those of us hoping for a more enlightened and honest foreign policy during the next four years. In its aftermath, pundits mainly focused on Palin’s failure to self-destruct and Biden’s relatively cogent arguments. Here’s an annotation of the foreign policy issues raised during the vice-presidential debate, which was packed with demonstrably false and misleading statements.

zune then goes through, statement by statement, correcting both candidates. worth a read and i hope he does a similar analysis on tonight’s debate.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:41 am
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Newark Star-Ledger, teh paper I grew up reading, has a good collection of Bruce’s stuff the last few days.
http://www.nj.com/springsteen/.....pring.html

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:41 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 25

(bows) Konnichiwa, Wobbs

You’re up awfully early. Got a long day planned at the food bank?

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:42 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 23

why are we buling a wall with Afghanistan?

http://blogs.reuters.com/trail.....g-country/

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:42 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 22

black panthers? nothing black angry and radical about that. a bunch of menacing blackk men…the repubs would take to their fainting couch

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kala October 7th, 2008 at 5:43 am
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Belmont has been polishing the door knobs and getting ready for several months. They are very proud to have been selected for the Town Hall type debate format, and everyone here in Nashville is abuzz. I know I’m not going to be anywhere near airport at noon, when Sen. Obama arrives.

Given the calculated mantra from th McPalin campaign, I’m curious about both the questions the Brokaw has selected from the audience as well as the McPalin spin that will be applied to both answer the question yet stay on message. (I mean, how many times can Ayers be the right answer?)

~itunkala, live from Nashville

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:44 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 28

yep but not until later. couldn’t sleep (been up since 3:30 pst)

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Waccamaw October 7th, 2008 at 5:44 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 11

Stopped going to a local restaurant because the owner ran faux only. It’s no longer in business…..no cause and effect but karma, nonetheless. :-)

It’s really hideous when it’s the only option in places where *you* have no option but to go; maybe you should tell someone there you’re gonna sue ‘em because they’re contributing to damaging your health from spikes in blood pressure. I’ve often thought about buying one of those gadgets that’re supposed to let you turn off idjit boxes surruptiously.

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 5:45 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 29

Yeah, I had seen that. I wondered if it was one of her “maritime borders” or the other kind.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:46 am
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In response to kala @ 31

don’t think he’ll wanna talk about Ayers. Has the lipstaick attack dog doing that an he’s too much of a wussy to do it himself. but he’ll probably be forced to. what i won’t like is if a quesion makes this all out to be equivalent “Both of you are just attacking the other…. ,.”

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:46 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 30

Wellllllll, I’ve been known to be a bit on the radical side. At least they’d go after somebody calling for the murder of a presidential candidate. The SS certainly won’t.

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:47 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 34

Wonder what annoyed her into saying that. She was giving a speechfor God’s sake. Lady, I’m on the other side but i feel sory for you. Some advice: Just read what they write for you.

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JimWhite October 7th, 2008 at 5:47 am
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In response to kala @ 31

Do you know anything about how the audience was selected? I haven’t been able to find any information on that.

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:47 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 11

i always ask to change the channel.

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:49 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 36

true but even better is the nation of islam. kill 2 birds with one stone lol

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:51 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 40

Now, now, no talk of killing. I use “feed two birds with one scone.” *g*

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foothillsmike October 7th, 2008 at 5:51 am
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In response to Waccamaw @ 33

Somtimes jingling keys works but be careful it can also open some garage doors.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 5:51 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 40

OMG … isn’t that the group Jermaine Jackson has protectin’ Michael ?

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 5:52 am
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The McCain and, especially, Palin demonizing of their opponent, in front of a nation full of super-patriot high school dropouts, is seriously dangerous. They probably think of it as just a little competitive intimidation.

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:53 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 43

Yep

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:54 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 41

i like that…feeding two birds it is *g*

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Beerfart Liberal October 7th, 2008 at 5:55 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 39

i actually lik eto watch FOX a bit. i think it’s good that we see where they’re going. Like with the cause of the economic crisis. Obama’s fault. Government pushed too many unqualified people into buying homes. Government programs. Fannie. Freddie. Crash! Obama supported it. Bullshit but it’s what they’re saying and expect McCain to do the same tonight. saw O’reiley and Barney Frank. That as a pisser. Also, last week Kerry was great on O’reiley. Just kept talking when O’reiley tried to interrupt and ignored O’reiley.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 5:56 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 44

It’s their retro platform … pre-Civil Rights style

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:56 am
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i have a lot of tension running through my body. mccain and his ilk aren’t helping

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:57 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 47

ignored O’reiley.

Oh boy, that had to have raised Billo’s bp a hundred points.

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Waccamaw October 7th, 2008 at 5:57 am
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In response to foothillsmike @ 42

Tell me more!!!! Is it the noise of the keys jingling or the car door gadget or what? How close do you have to be? A *free* faux silencer would be heaven. :-)

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 5:57 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 47

sorry, i could care less what the fringe is thinking.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 5:58 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 49

Got something for you … one minute …

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klynn October 7th, 2008 at 5:59 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 11

Six months ago, I actually got a whole waiting room (in Columbus, Ohio) talking about the state of the country, the war and the economy due to Fox news being the waiting room buzz. I asked to change the TV to PBS but the nurse would not allow me to. People first looked at me like I was crazy. Then I simply shared my own personal stories of how I was being affected with the woman sitiing next to me. Eyes opened wide and others started telling their experiences. We were talking politics through talking personal experiences in the context of changes in our lives over the last seven years. My experiences were especially personal with a brother in Iraq for 4+ years as well as a sister-in-law who lost her baby almost full term and she nearly died because she did not spontaneously abort when the baby died in utero, she was a high risk for induction; thus, she needed a third term abortion but the state she lived in made the procedure illegal (except in extreme medical cases). Her doctor explained that the paperwork invovled would not clear for the procedure in time to save her life. So she was sent to a neighboring state and had to leave family behind during an extremely difficult time and the state further treated her like a criminal and told her if the coroner found any chance that the procedure was done illegally, she, her husband and the doctor would be arrested…Nice for an extremely private and painful moment of loss. But the state never saw that they risked her life by sending her on a medically unaccompanied trip 4 hours from her home. Nothing like medical privacy during a health tragedy.

A number of Republicans in the waiting room “softened” and began to realize that a fish rots from the head down.

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Waccamaw October 7th, 2008 at 5:59 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 50

Too bad it didn’t.

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 5:59 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 49

Since yer up early do a little yoga. Relax. Refocus.

Relax. You hear nothing but my voice. *g*

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Frank33 October 7th, 2008 at 5:59 am
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Here is a debate issue. First we had to rush to save the investment bankers from themselves. Now we do not have to rush. This wacky statement was made yesteday. Remember, we were slipping into financial catastrophe. Congress had to pass Cash for Goldman Sachs before the first debate. Otherwise, the rich people would be swooning and unhappy. But if we get the money moving again, exactly where is it moving and to who? To me? I do need it more than Fuld, Paulson, the Greenspan’s, and T-Bone Pickens-Your pocket

President Bush, speaking in San Antonio, said the rescue package was designed to unlock the nation’s frozen credit markets ”to get money moving again” through the economy. But he added, ”We don’t want to rush into the situation and have the program not be effective.”

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 6:00 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 53

okay

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eCAHNomics October 7th, 2008 at 6:01 am
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FRB entering the commercial paper market. Treasury will fund buying commercial paper.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:01 am
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Hope this helps ’til I get down to L.A. Do it as often as you’d like:

Take 10 calming breaths, inhaling and exhaling fully and visualize stress and toxins leaving your body.

Then, take 10 calming breaths, inhaling and exhaling fully and visualize pure, healing energy filling your entire being.

(If you do this with your eyes closed, take 5 calming breaths afterwards and s-l-o-w-l-y open your eyes)

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 6:01 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 56

i should do some yoga but my mind keeps distracting me

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Crosstimbers October 7th, 2008 at 6:03 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 47

There was one surprise. After all of the repetitive “reporting”, they led into a brief interview with Britt Hume by saying something to the effect that the second debate offers McCain an opportunity to regain the momentum. Hume said he hated to disagree, but the first debate is all that really counts, it is really rare to change a 6-7 point poll lead at this stage, and it appears to be all over. He did say, “still, like the economic collapse, something else dramatic could still change the election.” I was surprised at his raining on the parade his teammates had been conducting all day. I was also alarmed at his hit that somebody might come running in with Bin Ladin’s head or something might blow up.

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 6:04 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 60

thanks petro. doing that now. then maybe i can go do some yoga

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:04 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 61

Shut your movie down. You can do it.

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:04 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 60

Great exercise.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 62

Why are you surprised, fear is the only Card in the NeoCon deck

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 am
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In response to wobblybits @ 63

Make sure to breathe through your nose only.

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kala October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 am
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In response to JimWhite @ 38

my understanding is it’s been a lottery type process, but i’m not sure how one got a “lottery ticket”. it is supposed to be a small small small audience, once the VIPs have their spot. the reports around here are that some people won’t find out until today if they will be included, as setting up the stage around hall caused them to not know how much space would be available for audience until last night or today. i know some of the “lottery tickets” were set aside for Belmont students also.

~itunkala

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 65

… and it only cost $700 Billion to develop …

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 6:06 am
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your right, I can shut it down. thanks

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View this users Facebook profile wobblybits October 7th, 2008 at 6:07 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 67

will do.

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:07 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 69

707

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:08 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 64

Excellent ! Do you meditate ?

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:09 am
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I’m a Kundalini boy.

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alank October 7th, 2008 at 6:11 am
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McCain seems to think war is the solution to every problem, including his flagging campaign.

Has the Palin camp started using a minstrel show to warm up the crowd before her appearance at each Nürnberg hate fest, yet?

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:12 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 74

That’s a great one … do you have the Kundalini Meditation music from Osho’s ashram ?

It is out of this world !

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foothillsmike October 7th, 2008 at 6:12 am
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In response to Waccamaw @ 51

It has worked on tvs from across the room. I haven’t tried it on car doors but did it accidentally on garage doors from in the driveway

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:16 am
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In response to alank @ 75

I hear she’s rolling out a new campaign slogan … Vote for me or Cheney will take ya huntin’

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:16 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 76

No, I don’t. Music is part of my movie so I do everything in quiet.

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:17 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 78

That’s a challenge I’d have to think about.

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klynn October 7th, 2008 at 6:18 am
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In response to Crosstimbers @ 62

Never forget what Hume reported on after 9-11…

http://100777.com/usa/israeli_spyring

So, his context may be from this news report that was scrubbed from their site.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:19 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 79

I also meditate in quiet, however I have done Kundalini meditation to this music and it is divine.

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foothillsmike October 7th, 2008 at 6:20 am
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In response to alank @ 75

They’re taking their cues from the Spanish inquisition

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:21 am
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Sarah Palin, whose very presence on a national ticket is an insult to your intelligence. She now has “credibility,” we are told, because she managed to read talking points off notecards in the debate last week with unwitting enthusiasm. - Joe Klein, from Time

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:25 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 82

I usually combine my exercises with meditation and music is a distraction. One of the things I do to slow my movie down is to focus on the sounds of the jungle at night. From there I can go to empty mind.

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View this users Facebook profile Petrocelli October 7th, 2008 at 6:30 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 85

Fantastic ! Hope we meet some day and share our insights on meditation

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View this users Facebook profile SouthernDragon October 7th, 2008 at 6:38 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 86

That would be cool.

Now I’m off to swim in the great capitalist (bwahahahahahahahaha) cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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peony October 7th, 2008 at 9:33 am
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In response to klynn @ 54

klynn, glad you shared this story. Your “strategy” if I may call it that was impeccable. Hard to argue or repute someone’s experiences. The perfect ground on which to communicate and connect with people who hold different views. Bravo! 8>)

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peony October 7th, 2008 at 9:34 am
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Correction: meant “refute.”

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peony October 7th, 2008 at 9:39 am
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In response to Petrocelli @ 76

I’m reminded of meditating with kundalini with my teacher during intensives. My kind of “partying.”

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