10:33 McCain’s response to the "What don’t you know and how will you learn it?" is also non-responsive, and considerably less inspiring. (Eli)
10:31 The CNN women really go for Obama. (MommyBrain)
10:31 Obama giving an inspiring and completely non-responsive answer to the "What don’t you know and how will you learn it?" question. (Eli)
10:30 Great moment when Obama says Michelle teaches him what he doesn’t know, very appealing and warm response. (Siun)
10:28 I’m imagining a SciFi novel that influences a presidential election by hijacking CNN’s viewer insta-feed. But I don’t think we’re there yet. I think viewers really ARE flat-lining when McCain speaks. (ew)
10:28 Retired Navy Guy concerned about Iran nods when Obama explains his position – didn’t nod at McCain. And CNN meter stays really high throughout. (Siun)
10:28 Obama talking about putting economic pressure on Iran by not selling them gasoline, because they don’t have a strong refinery infrastructure. And we still need to have diplomatic talks with them. (Eli)
10:26 Pach, correct me if I’m wrong, but the Sugar Momma’s Boy Toy also hasn’t said "middle class." (ew)
10:26 I think McSame should stay away from the term, "stinking corpse." (Blue Texan)
10:26 My friends, "That One" over there has thoroughly kicked my butt tonight. (bmaz)
10:24 Two names McCain has not uttered, iirc: "Bush" and "Palin." (Pach)
10:23 Brokaw channeling Reagan Is Russia an evil empire? Obama says
evil behavior, McCain says maybe … oh my! (Siun)
10:23 If this were a prizefight it would have been stopped. If it were a daycare, John McCain would have been given a juice box and a cookie. (Thers)
10:22 Obama more articulate on Russia, becoming more confident. Can’t wait to hear the pundits talk about how this wasn’t a game changer. Obama is closing this out. (Scarecrow)
10:22 Obama is talking about rebuilding Soviet satellite economies? Hello, we have some work to do closer to home! Would someone please send Obama a book about FDR? (Pach)
10:22 Oh, glory. McCain is Eddie Haskell. We need to make the Russians understand that we won’t have bad human rights behavior. Happily, the chinese don’t exist. (Julia)
10:21 Brokaw only mentions time when it is Obama’s time to speak and not McCain. (Suz)
10:20 At what point do we send in a doctor to intervene–like a boxing ref–because apparently McCain can no longer breathe? (ew)
10:20 McCain really needs new material – hauls out his K.G.B. in Putin’s eyes line again … yawn. (Siun)
10:18 Obama clearing winning the exchanges on Pakistan, and McCain is fumbling in his replies. (Scarecrow)
10:18 McCain utters his first "Obama is correct" on some bits and pieces, before putting his hand in his front pocket and chanting "Surge!" (Pach)
10:18 Via Ambinder, the RNC’s already whining: "10:16: The RNC sends around reporter’s e-mail criticizing the debate format. As in — this is not a REAL town hall meeting, so if McCain’s not doing as well as he should be doing, it’s not his fault." (Blue Texan)
10:17 CNN voter meter drops every time McCain starts to talk … his national security faux chops are not winning voters. (Siun)
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Brokaw thinks he can get a yes or a no…?
McCain: it depends. (I knew he was wearing them).
Yay! Almost over!
For ET last thread
Depends on the issue Tax Cuts HealthCare Pakistan Obama Russia was good for McCain. Women like Obama more than men maybe the Women are Smarter like the Dead suggest.
Round 6! *boxing the air*
We muddled through into Iraq and rushed into it McCain…100 years war.
Energy!!! Stop using oil.
finally more audience questions
This has been a boring debate for sure. Almost over.
Navy chief. Iran attacks Israel.
This question was a plant.
What does his prior service have to do with attacking Israel? WTF???
Brokaw: Do I have that right Terry? How do I know, WTF are you saying? Spit the marbles out BrokeJaw
McCain is tired and had to leave his microphone down for that last one.
So much for the imaginary line, maybe it should have been an electric fence.
McCain would ignore UN in Iran crisis.
lets act unilaterally cause that shit has worked great so far
“Spit the marbles out BrokeJaw” *thumbs up*
Do we have a mutual defense pack with Israel? If not, the question is bogus because it presumes the aforementioned.
Would you defend Israel if Iran attacked it?
OK, I’m betting that no one is going to mention that Israel has 200 nuclear weapons. There is no evidence that Iran has a current nuclear weapons program.
707!!!
Geez, Israel has this country wrapped around it’s little finger. Now I really have to go get a drink.
Like about half of the rest…
“Wipe off map” was, in the original, hyperbole about maps and boundaries, not a call to attack Israel.
glad to see squiggly lines aren’t buying it
McGeezer buying time with the thank-you-thank-you-thank-you gushing before answering the question on Iran bombing Israel.
Almost smells planted.
TUUUUTILY!!!
At the end of the day, my friend, you’re probably shit-faced…
I would love it if Barack said, “Well, I would look to find out who started it and if Israel is found to have started it by illegal means, then I would tell Israel ‘you’re on your own’!”.
Wishful thinking on my part, I know.
Over at the Great Orange, someone has a diary up: they got a call from a friend who’s a doctor about McCain’s health; thinks he might have heart or lung problems.
What does WTF mean? G)
I don’t like to say it, but I hate both McCain and Obama’s foreign policies.
Hey, those are Brit Hume’s Marbles …
ALMOST??? Puhleeze… Guaran-damn-teed this was planted.
McCain lost the last debate and he’s still using the same lines in this debate. Talk about judgment.
Poor lil’ Israel with its hundreds of nukes.
Well, he’s lost them! *pointing at Brokaw*
I have turned blue trying to explain that to so many people …
The obligatory do you love Israel question and the obligatory affirmatives. Why is this necessary?
CNN graph Obama is doing better than McCain did on the Israel Iran Nuclear Weapons question the GOP is going to have a hard time digesting that.
May I offer you my “terrorist fist bump” in support and agreement?
When is democracy going to come to the united states?
Great points on what happens when we skip talks.
*nod*
I think OB’s foreign policy will be different if elected. I believe he’s pandering to the independent hawks out there.
“We’re Totally Frazzled.” [snort] I’m too tired to come up with a synonym for “confused” that begins with an F…
What the heck kind of sanctions does McCain think will work, given the sanctions in place today?
Obama actually offers one: cutting off gasoline imports by Iran.
I don’t like to say it, but I hate both McCain and Obama’s foreign policies.
One of them means it (Gramps); the other is trying to get elected (Obama).
Not that that’s terribly reassuring, but there ya go.
GAWD
as i read these comments, trying to keep up in heels,
i’m wishin’ obi would hire us!!!!
we’re flushing McKeating right down the big oval bowl and Obi doesn’t even GET IT
and Broke Jaw just SUX!!!!!!!!!!
TOAST!
clink
He does sound like someone with congestive heart failure.
One possibility, anyway.
Obama’s debate demeanor has dramatically improved.
yay! last question
Last Question – Yay!!!
Claire McCaskel in the house!
*progressive fist bump* ;-)
The correct answer to the idiotic Israel question is: Is Israel the 51st state? When did that happen? When did a country with HUNDREDS of nukes need a big brother to protect it from a country with NO nukes?
OK…real answer that is PC: If Israel were attacked, the US would stand by to offer any assistance Israel asked for. If Israel attacks Iran, they are on their own.
What don’t you know, and how will you learn it?
This should produce interesting answers….
ok – what’re you drinking? I owe you one…
Brokaw: I’ll end with a thoroughly dumbass question because if I haven’t mentioned it before I’m a pompous blowhard.
CNN on tv has Ohio uncommitted voters by women/men.
CNN on the internet has the squiggly lines for Dems/Ind/Rep
and you can see CNN analyst scoreboards and Obama’s ahead
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/…..am=stream1
*clink* to Siri!
Florida and New York two of the biggest Electoral Vote States win just a majority of the big ten and the other 40 states won’t matter.
A synonym for confused that starts with “F” –
Fucked up in the head?
Which is the only reason I hold out some hope for Obama, that he’s speaking the pol-talk while walking a fine line to act like a mensch in the world, as most Americans believe us to be.
Obama has driven the women’s line off the top of the chart on CNN
Obama is so realistic when compared to McCain. One reason is because Obama has a plan to pay for his plans, whereas McCain just promises great things and says he will cuts all these taxes, cutting a huge source of income to pay for his objectives. I also don’t like the way McCain keeps walking up close to people in the audience. It is a bit intimidating.
water LOL
Can I haz juice box and cookie?
Obama to McCain when they shake hands: It was an honor, Keating Five.
officially drunk & barely able to make it to bed.
McCain goes for the bogeyman!
McCain: What I don’t know but would like to learn is what I said 5 minutes ago.
Obama looks like he’s wrapping this debate up remarkably well, like Biden did in his last Thursday. These guys’ ideas work far better than McCain’s and Palin’s do as argument or debate closers. They appeal to rationality, rather than smarmy fear.
Fundamental change – back to basics, some tried, some true.
Your mouth to Obama’s ear.
Obama has had the women’s line pegged many times on CNN.
oh McSame babbling
Yeah I’m so embarrassed for my sex:(
I had a drink every time McCain said “My friends”
I puked 45 minutes ago.
McCain just assumes that Americans can’t find other countries on the map…
I know what’s going to happen if Johnny McTeleprompter gets in the White House:
ALL OF AMERICA WILL BE BURNED TO THE GROUND!
Thanks for coming to the debate, America! A vote for a republican this years means you’re an asshole at heart.
this is more than about invasion , we have been lied to as a nation, what soilder will defend this country in the future if thier being lied to constantly …. no one…… which is what is happening with the economy we have been experiencing a recession 2 yrs and we dont trust the gov.
Oh McCain
Cry me a river
cry me a river….
Ooooh! Here’s the POW reference!
I don’t know what I don’t know that you don’t know either.
My dad was at home with my momm when I was raised.
DAMN, i’ll never be president.
The POW card!!
Hah, McCain’s mom mostly had to raise them. Must have been tough with that Admiral’s salary coming in the mail.
It’s ending at the right moment — McSnarly is running out of steam.
omg
WE KNEW YU DIDN’T HAVE A MOTHER ASSHAT!!!
omg
sorry for yelling
need baba,
Obama should have said he has a life spent learning.
McCain repeats part of Obama’s answer.
Amen, I am here and I believe it.
Wonder how McLame defines “tough times”?
oh McSame babbling
that sucked. boring. but BO did well.
Obama wins this one. Worst-case scenario is a draw.
Crazy: “What I don’t know is what all of us don’t know.” “What I don’t know is what the unexpected will be.”
Don’t know much about the economy, and flying jets.
A noun, a verb, and p.o.w.
Tom can’t think without his teleprompter! He’s just like Johnny. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, how cute is that.
McCain’s hand at the tiller will surely get blisters.
Overall grade – pretty blah
Yep, a steady hand on the tiller. Jesus, where and the hell do they get these lines.
Good night, pups.
Someone should deport Brokejaw back to Canada!!!!!
Does anyone know where the first polling responses turn up?
Well! McCain is still standing at the end. How did that happen?
Bob Schieffer. Snore.
wooo whooo.. we won
I think Obama just pulled back from a pitfall there. He almost said he would ask Michelle if he didn’t know something. And then he wandered off into his closing statement. He should have said that there are vast resources of intelligent people in this country, scientists and experts and just common people that were denied giving their imput during the Bush era. When people differed with him, he wouldn’t fire them.
Exactly! It’s a Rudy Redux!
Now for the celebrity pundits to tell us what we should think and why. Pricks.
DIGG!
May I say for the record, that Eli is a rock star.
cindi looks like a crackhead
yeah baby!
don;t go. stay and live blog the different channels!
He still scored higher on the CNN lines than McSame.
McLame doesn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Probably would rather just kill both.
Just gave Cindy the most perfunctory hug in the known universe.
G’nite Jim
Crazy does not know much. But I know I do not like these bogus lines on the screen. It is just another way for corporations to tell us what to think.
That would have been a phenomenal answer! I wish he’d answered the question, because he is just the sort who would call on these resources. Yea, an opportunity missed.
These “debates” would be better if they were moderated by someone from the BBC. American news people are trully pathetic.
OMG!
i gotta open a whole nother bottle over THAT one!
Eli ROCKS!
Aside from the Michelle crack I didn’t like BHO’s last answer. Thought McCain was realistic for the first time.
For the whole debate, Obama owned McLoonie.
David Brooks calls it for Obama.
Obama won all CNN analyst listed on this page.
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/…..am=stream1
Does it seem really kinda spooky how Cindy is always creeping up from behind. It seems to me she sticks closer to McLame than any other wife of a candidate I have ever seen! Or is that just me?
Wasn’t that strange looking? Bet she was thinking “ick”
Or is it “an asshole WITHOUT a heart”?
Um … Brokaw was born in SD
night all. fun as always. never ceases to amaze me what bad coaching these guys get though.
That was a complete arsekicking. There were other places he could have gone, but anyone who suggests that McCain didn’t get his clock cleaned is simply lying.
Waiting to hear what Brooks has learned about what all americans think…
—Hi fdl pups! Arrived in time for last 20 min…can anyone tell me, did McC ever look at Obama? The glimpses I got showed McC STILL looking anywhere else. Was it like this all through?
Great suggestion.
It says a lot about our political discourse that a debate is considered successful if nothing is said.
Poor, poor Bobo! He’s been staring into the abyss for months, and now he finds it staring back at him…
LOL Hard to tell sometimes!
My final comment for the night: A steady hand at the tiller because you’re asleep on your watch doesn’t cut it, sailorboy.
G’night, Gracie.
He’s 197 years old, and may start wandering off somewhere and get lost. She’s there to keep him on track.
Obama won this in a walk …
McLame wouldn’t shake his hand, and Blitzer wouldn’t dare comment on it. What cowards.
she is…”g”
Ok. Where’s Jane?
Obama looked good, still Presidential, and even bemused at McCain…while McCain looked aggressive and irritable. He couldn’t get a blow in.
His toughest attack was to compare Barack to Hoover…”Hoover”?
And then he referred to Obama as “THAT one.”
Mark Shields surprises by saying that neither is addressing the current economic situation that rivals the Great Depression. Shields every once in a while act like he is awake.
Oh. My mistake. Deport him anyway. Pompous jackass. Russert is missed
*standing on chair clapping*
thank you eli for live blogging this for us
Barack did awesome. He’s a serious candidate and wants to get America back on track. McCrazy wants to have planes rides in Air Force One and hopes he can take a ’stab’ at Sarah Palin in one of the rooms in the White House! See the difference?
Michelle is just beautiful
Don’t know much about geography.
I turned to Fox to hear what they say.
McCain would not shake Obama’s hand but his wife Cindy did Cindy is going to get it for that!
Thanks to you on track vis a vis the despicable planted question on Israel. Obviously the Iranians are not suicidal and the whole phony scenario is like the Polish “attack” on SS troops in 1939 (& I apologize to those offended at the obvious parallel).
Despicable that Obama’s response was as exceptionalist & determined to ignore the opinion of the rest of the civilized world as McSame: “We won’t take anything off the table,” “defend America’s interests”. Oh well, despite all the groveling love of “service”, it’s not their family members who are dying and their cushy Senate salaries are protected while our economy implodes defending their Lovely Empire. As McSame would say “Victory with Honor!” Richard Nixon is not dead, he’s wearing a McSame mask.
I’m listening to Tweety, but unfortunately his fellow talking head is that weasel, David Gregory. Ick.
And Cindy is just creepy.
Now, now there was five years where he had no river.
She was probably had her mouth duct taped and was thrown in a supply closet for the entire debate, because you know how much the right wingers don’t want the liberal voice to be heard.
Focus group on CBS likes Obama.
Gregory is a POS……talk about negative “framing” wrt anything Obama. grrrrrrrr
“That one” How elitist?
Walk wobbly and carry a soft stick! I almost feel bad for Palin with the imagery I’m getting.
brave man.
Anxious to hear the report though.
look for the cast tommorrow
I’ve got to get up early tomorrow, so I’m tottering off to snuggle in the arms of Morpheus. I can’t WAIT to see what all the Very Important Pundits have to say tomorrow. To say nothing of looking at FiveThirtyEight.com… Rest well, pups. I’m a happy camper this evening.
All those people shaking Obama’s hand are really smiling. I like that.
Wow!
McCain looked O-L-D!
He moved like a man in pain, stiff, robotic.
She sure is. She’s very classy. Cindy on the other hand looks like a tramp with expensive clothing.
Eli, blog on with your bad self !
thank you very much
I just can’t wait to see what the lackeys have to say about how well McSFB did. All the zombie RayGunites will be drooling on themselves for days for mentioning their god. I heard somebody say on the radio today that Obama wasn’t gonna be as wonkey as he was the first time round. Wasn’t woney enough for me. I want some specifics on some very serious issues, not minute details, but something I have to think about. These generalizations, one size fits all, policy statements ain’t cuttin’ it. ymmv
Katie Couric looks so perky in her $5,000 pant suit.
somebody last nite said CHINATOWN,….seems to fit
Barack looked Presidential. Mcnutjob was way too edgy.
Let’s cut him some slack on that – I do believe answering otherwise would guarantee a lost election. They have to say that. Just the same, his answer was more measured, and I’d trust him more than McGeezer (I like that one).
FoxNews channel is complaining about the limited topics. Barnes, Hume and (blond chick whose name is not listed and who I do not know)
When you get your ass kicked, complain about the debate.
Luntz is up.
FemBot…an anti-Stepford Wife.
Gregory is a POS
Dancin’ Dave? What would give you that idea?
yup..ALEXIS HARRINGTON
Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
She’s eye candy for the brain dead.
Surprising announcement: Buchanan calls it for McCain
That last question has to have been a trick.
The REAL answer, my friend, would be, “I don’t know.”
Focus group really didn’t like “that one” comment.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAH
The navy guy tooka photo with OBAMA
wow, Bill Bennett is ‘puffy’ ain’t he?
Luntz’s has a crowd and is asking them questions. Who did you prefer?
OBAMA
Why?
He spoke to the voter. He wasn’t snide. He answered the questions. McCain kept making snide answers.
Why did McCain answer to economic q
Bill Bennett is defending “Bomb Bomb Iran” as being a joke among Naval aviators. Yeah, kinda like Tailhook.
I hope Sarah shoots a Squirrel real soon … Luntz needs a new hairpiece
POOR PAT…he is just clueless
Duh – Pat Buchanan thinks McC won the debate! I’m shocked, shocked!
Barack looked Presidential. Mcnutjob was way too
edgytweaked.G’night, Marion! Sweet dreams! I’m gonna have to sign off shortly, am exhausted and need to crash hard into my bed.
Love to you all, Pups! This is the first place I come when I get the chance to spend time in the toobz. This community is the best!
LOL Who the hell is Alexis Harrington?!!! I’m sorry. It’s late and my brain fell out 8 minutes ago. LOL
boa noite marion
Not surprised! The military loves him despite what the McCain campaign & the right wingers are saying.
“Katie Couric looks so perky in her $5,000 pant suit.”
Silky Undies!
LOL!
Tell us more, please. On PBS Gerson said that McCain’s comment about renegotiating mortgages was great and that could be some type of game changer. Edmonds, former Clinton speechwriter said that the American people benefited because the last few days of the McCain campaign have been negative.
Nite nite Marion! ;-)
I’m watching CSPAN. Where’s MccCain ? Michelle & Barack are making the rounds.
You’re a good man to report from behind enemy lines
Oh man, The Sweetie and I watched Chinatown on Sunday.
“Barry, it’s Chinatown.”
JM as John Huston, Cindy as Faye Dunaway, Barry as Jack Nicholson…. oh man….
McCain: “Free houses for everyone, no taxes, and a pony! I know how to run teh world, but I’m not telling anyone how.”
Jeez, that guy thinks you’re dumb
Good night! It is a great place at the ‘lake.
I missed that: he really refused? Walked off? Yuk
I hope someone will distill these comments. None of us have been able to follow them.
Nite nite to MrsK8 too! ;-)
Having his Depends changed?
Boy is Pat Buchanan going to be feeling silly when he wakes in the morning to find out that on CNN even his fellow Rethugs gave the debate to Obama!
He also nodded and smiled after Obama answered the question he asked.
Oh that is so very very cruel and accurate.
I owe ya a beverage of your choice.
Damn, that’s two tonight. Pretty cool. Like minds…
For some reason, McGramps doesn’t seem to give Pat Buchanadana the same boner that Sarah does….
i so agree with you
jane up now on cnn.com live
Joan evil Collins from Dynasty…”g”
I’m watching CSPAN. Where’s MccCain ? Michelle & Barack are making the rounds.
he’s probably already asleep by now….
debate wrap up upstairs
Don’t forget to vote at CNN
I think the CPO will vote for Obama
Johnnie will NOT be pleased
wrapup above
Kisses and hugs to y’all — now I really have to sign off. Have fun, Pupsters!
What you think Mcnutjob has time for those little people. Hope the idiots there notice who’s hanging out and who bolted.
Ooh, Republican woman (older women) says she likes what Obama said about priorities, AND that “he answered the question.”
boa noite mrsk8
oooooh, that’s good…
what do you mean upstairs?
46% of the country is dumber than dirt “my friend.”
Joan evil Collins from Dynasty…
Who I met one day when she *didn’t* have the make-up on. *shudder*.
nightmares to follow tonight, for sure….
Thank you.
Yes, SD, Mc$lime aka Snorest Grump* or War-assed Grump* will indeed be touted as the clear winnah.
Judging from most all comments here, this evening Obama was mostly very good, and Grump* was, well … Grump* was Grump*.
Therefore Grump will, doubtless, be declared the master debater of all time.
DW
*(Sincere thanks to jayt for this fine, and most appropriate, appellation)
Barack reached his hand out, and McLAme gestured toward Cindy’s hand while withdrawing his own hand. An obvious snub!
yup again
“And therein lies my only hope.”
Oh yeah! I remember now. ;-)
Thanks for your civil response, but I respectfully disagree. The job of a “leader” is to lead, not to let lies go unrebuked.
The imaginary scenario remains absurd and incredibly self-serving to the Israel lobby that dominates our national debate. The only way I can agree w/ you is to note Obama’s point that if our economy continues to self-destruct our wonderful foreign soil Empire is sure to follow.
Why the f**k do we need to listen to our would-be leaders debate what’d be best for the people of Ukraine or Venezuela (not mentioned tonight, but you get the point) while this country falls apart?
Trick question?
708!
Voters on MSNBC says 60/40 Obama won.
Romney is on now with Chris Wallace. They’re talking about the retail mortgage buy program.
Romney is declaring the “headline” from tonight’s debate – McCain says you have to stabilize the housing market to keep people in their homes.
Now taxes, Romney:McCain is changing nothing with the tax code.
Romney liked McCain’s answer on Israel, – do everything you can to protect our ally Israel. Obama didn’t.
In my opinion Romney was very good spinning this.
Now Greta Van Sustren is in the spin room
Claire McCaskell is up now on FoxNews. Wallace is asking her about the McCain mortgage buy announced tonight.
She’s saying So what, Obama was in command.
Plus, how is McCain going to pay for it?
LOL!
night Petrocelli.
night cap toast to you tonite,
good to c’ya here.
you always make me laugh!
and lub lub lub to all
thanks for the “moments”!!!
last “CLINK!”
Best way to learn the new talking points.
No argumet with you there.
Frankly, I hate all the debate formats we’ve had for decades,now.Reporters (Irefuse to call them “journalists”) have no business being “moderators. Their highest value is a “story,” “good copy,” meaning they’ll go for the gotcha questions every time, no matter how un-enlightening they are on the issues.
G’nite Siri !
Jeez!
Who’s the one who’d be a cool hand on the tiller?
The man is petty, in addition to every thing else.