9:46 Obama now hitting McCain for voting against alternative energy. Dunno how McCain voted against it so many times – he’s only there for, what, 3 votes a year? (Eli)
9:45 McCain says America can do anything because our workers are productive and awesome. That would probably be a little more true if we actually invested in education and infrastructure… (Eli)
9:44 McCain has reached the Grandpa Simpson gibberish portion of the evening. Must be almost 10 PM. (Pach)
9:44 McCain says hooray for nuclear power! We can just reprocess the waste! Huzzah! (Eli)
9:42 We’re 42 minutes in and McSame has zilch. And his tired "Obama’s never stood up against his party" thing seems to be all he’s got. Not gonna be enough. (Blue Texan)
9:42 Why did Obama not bring up McCain’s wish to privatize Social Security? Jeebus. (Pach)
9:41 Overall impression: Obama calm, reasoned, patient, respectful but willing to correct mistatements.
McCain intense, upset, cutting; in your face. (Scarecrow)
9:41 Oooh, McCain plays the "I was pals with Tip O’Neill" card. That will swing the polls his way. The kids, they loves them some Tip O’Neill. (Thers)
9:41 McCain is saying nothing about what he’s going to do..oh wait have a commission. (lalisa)
9:40 McCain again claiming that he’s all the time bucking his party’s leadership. Riiiight. (Eli)
9:39 obama giving good explanation of his tax proposal, refuting McCain, and noting that McCain’s proposals give $700,000 to Wall Street CEO. "That is not fair." (Scarecrow)
9:39 We’ve reached the painfully boring part of tonight’s program. McCain needed some kind of breakthrough in the first half hour, and he didn’t get it. (Pach)
9:38 Obama is very good at being just plain clear about his positions – here’s the story guys. And does not let McCain get away with the tax lie (Siun)
9:38 McCain: I will buy up every mortgage in America and not raise taxes. My friends, leprechauns will provide us the gold for my bold new plan. (Thers)
9:37 McCain has turned against his childhood friend Herbert Hoover. How shocking! (Thers)
9:37 Oh, you lie. Ronald Reagan raised taxes. How dare McCain say no-one’s done it since Hoover. (Julia)
9:36 McCain – like the snotty little 5th grade bully with attack attack attack – looks foolish rather than authoritative. (Siun)
9:36 McCain trying to position himself as Not-Hoover, but not as FDR. Obama, please get on with the FDR. It’s ripe for the picking. (Pach)
9:36 McSame’s nailing Jello to the wall joke went over like stinky turds on CNN’s Ohio dialers. Brutal. (Blue Texan)
9:36 McCain just told Obama the economy was bad. But… what about Teh Fundamentals? (Eli)
9:35 Obama wants to use a budget "scalpel" so that we still help the people who need it, and don’t help the people who don’t. (Eli)
9:34 Obama now linking individual sacrifice with the principle of fairness and tax cuts for the rich. (Scarecrow)
9:33 Someone said this week that Obama likes to model himself on JFK, not on FDR. That seems to be showing through, on policy and on the last comment about the peace corps and youth. I think we need an FDR. (Pach)
9:32 Obama wants to expand the Peace Corps. Sounds like there’d be a domestic component, too. (Eli)
9:31 Obama now addressing what individuals must do — referring to how we use energy; how can we save energy in our homes and our buildings. Discusses how young people can serve. Finally responsive to the question. (Scarecrow)
[graphic from the amazing twolf]
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Straight talk express lost a wheel! Way to go, Barry!
Make Cindy’s pasty little man turn red with rage, please.
Fitz!
On SS, Barry really needs to nail McC on his plan to move SS into the stock market — where would we all be now if John’d had his way, huh?
Tom Brokaw is an asshole!
Gwen Ifill should take lessons from Brokaw.
Obama replied well to McCain’s lie about their tax plans. It’s about time. He became alert. He was not well focused until now.
Yep. Let’s reverse the policies of the last 8 years. Doing that alone will bring our country back to pre-2000 normalcy.
How so?
Obama Lumps SS & Medicare together. Come on Obama.
Obama gets it that all he has to do is keep hammering home the bit that he will lower taxes for 95% of people, and he has the election. Americans are selfish, at least the undecideds are.
Whoa mccain : what ARE the fixes theN?
I’m gonna leap through the TV and shove that mike up Chuckles’ ass.
*My Friends* … Salud !
yeah, a masher
i like to see the instant drop when mcsame “chuckles” … let’s see him wink next!
Because he told Barack earlier he couldn’t rebut what Johnny had just said about taxes.
McOld…”SS not that tough” – no kidding. it’s not broken.
the COMMISH
OOOOOHHH… Is he about to say “maverick?”
McCain reveals his bitterness about Obama whenever he rties to make a crack at Barack’s expense – the base love it, the independents think he’s a asshole, just like Bush.
oh man. “i was a POW” must be coming soon.
Medicare: Commish.
Now’s the time for O to say that Mc would cut it.
Have a commission deal with Medicare. That’s original. Flatline.
First McCain says fixing SS is easy then he says we solve it by forming a commission.
McSame just blathering the same talking points.
My friends, let’s not raise taxes on anybody, ever. What will the International Monetary Fund say about our tax policy when we reach national debt equal to 100% of GNP?
McCain tanking on CNN nobody trusts the GOP on the issue. A commission is McCain insane that means nothing will get done.
McCain: Social Security is simple to fix, i.e. gut.
The Tip O’Neil and Reagan deal on SS was one of the biggest scams in US history, only now beaten out by the Republican induced meltdown.
Who’s wearing a flag pin, I’m not wearing my contact.
I can’t vote for anyone who doesn’t wear a flag pin
I hear mccain starting to breath heavy like a dirty old man
mccain sound slike he’s reading a bedtime story now
Johnny has voted for 90% of George Bush’s policies! He and Georgie are the Bush Twins!
Bipartisan John says he’s gonna fight with the Democrats…and solving Social Security isn’t hard!
Then he’s gonna have a ”commission” (just like Bush’s SS Commission) to solve Medicare.
He’s said Nothing!
Yeah, I’m not real popular in Congress… that’s why it’s so easy for me to work across the aisle with the Joe Lieberman’s of the Congress. See, he’s not real popular either…
These aren’t debates. They are infomercials. American campaigns suck.
My friends… DRINK UP!
this is like a replay of the Palin talking points with “my friends” thrown in a lot.
glad I have the sound down but the squiggly lines tell me McCain is tanking on SS
McSame. You sir, are NOT my friend. Stop calling me your friend!
Let me guess…Johnny didn’t have a kitchen table when he was in Vietnam. *rolling eyes*
Ronald Reagan fixed Social Security by RAISING TAXES you idiot.
That’s what his hero Raygun did.
so I don’t see “the gloves comming off” yet
Next Debate I’m drinking its to hard to listen to the lies.
is she the only black in the audience?
McCain: Our best days are ahead of us.
Old as he is I don’t think he has all that many left.
McCain’s scored badly when he got excited, berathless and rapid-fire. It sounded like bla, bla, bla, bla
heheehehehehehehe
you go ingrid! and let’s watch mscame fuck up the answer …
Wait – so they agree on rules, and Broker is bad because he enforces them?
PopPop: “Let’s set-up a commission – for everything.”
Notice how Brokaw always says “thank you very much” to McCain and doesn’t not do likewise when Obama finishes. Brokaw is a rich celebrity punk.
no pin on McShame
Tom Brokaw is an asshole!
changed my mind. I guess that comment doesn’t deserve a “Breaking News”! preface…
Ah, couldn’t bother to remember Ingrid’s name… I think he addressed all of the other questioners by their name…
“Drill to China!” ~ John McCain’s economic & green jobs policy
Creepy whisper: My friends, we loves my precious friends, don’t we, yes we do, my precious, my friends? Maverick! Maverick!
What’s with this soft, breathy voice mccrazy’s using tonight? Is it supposed to be his “Look, I’m not an angry old man” tone?
LOL mr wobbs did not make that a drinking word. But he did make maverick, ayers, de-regulation etc.
Did McCain forget that Lieberman isn’t his running mate?
He mentioned Joe Lieberman. That’s a glass of Manischevitz!
biggest producer of nuclear plants??
GE
McSFB talks about Short Ride as if he’s his running mate.
obama is not prepared with “reagan not only raised overall taxes he then shifted the burden to the middle class”
THREE MILE ISLAND
nuke response flat lining—really flatlining.
Me and Joe! Who thinks he’s still in love?
Maybe setting up to dump the Moosemouth…
Republic prefer to think of that as reverse lowering. Reagan is their Saint.
Reach Around Lieberliar and I … can fix global climate change.
Hey what is that stuff that McCrazy’s been smokin’…he chuckles like someone’s tellin him a joke only he ken hear…I want some a that shit…
Yawners. I sure am glad it’s not part of my job to have to liveblog this. I was wide awake when this started. McCain shuffling around hypnotized me into a coma like state.
Attack of the living McCain zombie
Yesssss…. We wants the precioussssss… Creepy in the extreme.
more meds,more meds…TIME OUT …cINDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I love the nema Ingrid and her question rocked too
It’s a little tough to forget the struggle you’re in WHEN YOU’RE IN THE STRUGGLE.
Oh goody! Another Lieberman shout out!
And he’s pushing the nukes, too. Swift!
Wait! He just through in the kitchen sink.
Just like Boobs Palin, Johnny is a 2 hour neocon infomercial.
yes he is and a masher too
But he raised taxes the Republican way — on the “little people”
I owe ya a beverage. *g*
ROFLMAO
JM ” I was on a Navy ship”…nukes are clean” (forgetting 3-Mile Island) and the waste issues across the country!
Yes, flyboy was on ships that had nuclear power and he knew zip about them (my husband was in the nuclear navy). I drove by a nuclear power plant once. Palin says Russia can be seen from AK. We’re all experts.
Good gawd! You just knocked my drink off the desk with that scream!
BILDEBERGER
kind of hard for Gramps to make all of his “forceful” and “exciting” points with that tiny little voice.
can’t mention reagan and win the election. undecideds worship reygun
and the cnn lines drop every time mccain mentions holy joe …
so mccain’s points don’t work on us but I think they work on the masses, obama is not able or allowed to respond
this is like;
“whoever tells the biggest lie wins”
He got it special from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue… Nothing but the best.
Is McCain going to morp into Smiegel?
Crazy. “Nuclear power is safe and it’s clean.”
No and no. Insurance companies have never insured a nuclear power plant.
26 out of 30 years! Whoosh! GOBAMA!
I don’t think that they can be called infomercials since they don’t inform.
However we have learned that McCain wants to
keep tax cuts for the rich
cut entitlements
build lots of nuclear and drill, drill, drill
and he blames the meltdown on Fannie, Freddie, and minorities.
BO says he wants nukes, and now said (again) he agrees with McNasty.
Why?
23 !
McCain voted 23 times against alternative fuels.
They are telling him jokes trhough his earpiece between feeding him answers.
McStain no has a flag pin, oooh my, he must be a commie! I wish, since it’s so close to Halloween, Obama would have come dressed as Apollo Creed. This patriotic enough for you MoFos?
He does sound like the crazy old man who lays in bed at the nursing home waving his cane at everyone who walks by his room.
yeah that tiny little voice is what we here in my neck of the woods call “The Voice”. It’s when people say “i’m sorry you feel that way” real softly. Passive aggressive.
3% of the world’s reserves, but use 25% of the oil, so we can’t drill our way out of this. Great, easy to remember, stat to share.
Just listening and not watching Obama sounds very rational, logical and strong. McCain, not so much.
It drives me nuts that Obama doesn’t seem to be able to come up with this stuff.
maybe so but I myself would win an election by destroying the myths, burden those myths with the facts and disabuse the worshipers of their hero
Obama’s positions suck. Clean coal, nuclear power…
Brokaw gets snide on BO again.
Dick.
Oh goody! Another Lieberman shout out!
JohnnyMac is so fucking old he still thinks Lieberman is a Democrat.
Why do you ask?
He can’t dump her, ratfink. Dumping her would make 99 44/100 % of Christianists stay home.
McInsane ain’t got (ground) game as it is, what ground game he’s got is based on batshit crazies like the students of Patrick Henry College and even Belmont University.
FUCK OFF TOM BROKAW!
Will someone in the audience go up to him and push him off his chair please? Jees.
Brokaw: Did I mention that I’m a pompous blowhard in the last 5 minutes?
rut oh McNasty is stumped
Brokaw is trying to be a bigger asshole than McCain. Sarcams. Seriously.
Spot on! It *is* Gollum speaking.
Poor Johnny, he needs the crazy old man, Tommy, to come to his defense. Two crazy old men.
My friends… drink up again.
Well. that’s what Ralph’s doing, and i love him for it. but…. you know. An educated populace wouldn’t fall for this crap
Drill in Omaha! That’s what Sarah started a chant in Nebraska “Drill HERE, Drill now!”
“That One” wow. You people.
not tonight pal…okay
Uh oh, McCain’s getting that maniacal look in his eye right now. Is he gonna snap?
McCain is just plain weird!
Did McCain vote against Lady Sarah’s earmarks?
That one? WTF? Did he say that at Obama?
Hey – Johnny – please stop smiling – you are *really* creeping me out….
Uh oh, Johnny is resorting to his kindergarten teacher’s voice after principal Brokaw came to his defense.
It’s fine with me that McNasty spends his time talking about his record, because the media is going to bring up the inconvenient facts tomorrow.
See my 108 for proof…
Agree completely. He’s taking the low road just to win. Kinda reminds me of 06 when we were all sure if the dems got in we’d see impeachment hearings……
mccain looks like a loser … he’s going to “win” this debate the same way palin “won” the last one … by not just collapsing on stage … i think the people will see thru this sh*t
aha, first fund the research, then give it to industry.
“pork, pork, pork”
why doesn’t obama answer that with;
“very few states recieve more funds from the government then they give to the government”
bing
200 proof
*hic*
An on-camera stroke is worth many drinks.
I loved it when Barack said a few weeks ago about that chant that McCain wanted to drill in the stage he was standing on. LOL
My friends… drink up again.
I think that anyone who was using that as a drink line passed out a long time ago….
look at this, mccain gets to challenge obama’s record and obama is not allowed to respond
this is one sick format
The high chairs don’t do Mc any favors. O sits in his easily while Mc has to stretch. Bad on Mc staff.
I bet the Brokaw line on the CNN meter isn’t even showing because it’s so low.
Oh why did you have to do that?
Do you think that healthcare should be treated as a commodity?
No. (My answer)
“McStain no has a flag pin, oooh my, he must be a commie!”
No, he’s a Virginian! BTW isn’t the Arizona flag eerily similar to Vietnams?
Cheers!
Must be nice to be so confident about nuclear power, but I live in an area that has one of the most productive nuclear plants in the nation, I think. There are incidents, although minor and so far as I know, has not released anything that caused a lot of problems yet, periodically. Also, during the period after 9/11, they realized that planes could have just as easily been driven into nuclear power plants and that could possibly take out a city! Not to mention the waste products which no one wants in their back yard! I’m for it when they discover a way to make it and what it produces safer, and not until. And btw, there is no such thing as clean coal, either.
THAT ONE!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!! I am so scared I am laughing with fright!
Great Q- health care as a commodity? Obie weaves around it.
That one, My friends
this is boring. Nothing new. Same talking points. Same BS
Why are we bothering?
Did they insist the audience look dour and threaten them not to crack a smile?
It makes me so angry. And we wonder why some go ballistic in our country when we see the unfairness on our televisions day to day.
McCain actually thought he was better at townhall meetings than Obama? That is so delusional.
Again, why did you have to do that? Very scary.
Hey guys!
Just got here — but on the way home I realized it was a very good thing I didn’t decide to take a swig of booze every time I hear “My Friends” — barf. I’d be looped out of my skull already.
I see that the “reaction lines” on CNN of uncommitted voters show consistent positive reaction for Obama, and pretty consistently negative responses for McSleazy.
Sorry, Barry. If you said you would get the insurance companies out of it and fund coverage for everyone, the lines would peg.
Hey Barry – I don’t *want* my medical records on-line!
I wish Barack would answer the question.
Before Obama was not given the opportunity, Now , with the Energy thing mcShame gets to respond. This is a f**king rigged bunch of crap. I propose a boycott of any company advertising on any company that advertises on any thing that Brokaw has anything to do with
I was wondering why i heard a string of expletives from the other room
red red red… oh obama’s gonna get a chastisement.
I really don’t like Obama’s pushing computerized healthcare billling and records. CAuse it’s Bush’s nephew that owns the company that developed software for that Athena. It’s a hoax and a way to defraud medicaid. I have documented proof.
singe Payer!!
Men like Barack’s remarks on health care.
They look dour because this debate is so boring.
yeah, it’s remarkable …
IOW, just another day for Johnnyboy.
I don’t want my health records computerized or online.
Why can’t Obama just come out and say “Health care is a
RIGHT not a commodity to be a source of profit!
It helped him come back in New Hampshire… but he was the only one on the stage.
I beginning to think Obama should have done 10 town halls with him.
Did Mcsame just seem to have a little temper. bearly reined in.
Part of me agrees with you. So i wonder. why Am i watching?? just a junkie i guess.
Exactly. It’s not a commodity, it’s a scarce resource, and it’s going to be rationed.
this isn’t a real town hall meeting. It’s a potemkin “debate”. It’s really nothing more than an extended infomercial.
fresh thread up
McCain keeps saying “Thank You for the question”… Like an old man that walks the mall and looks for people to converse with
Why are we bothering?
eternal optimism that tonight’s gonna be the night that Gramps blows?
page 4 >>
“Should health care be treated as a commodity or not?” Simple, to the point question. Obama won’t answer. Neither will McSFB. Sorry motherfuckers.
wat me drunkkk nevew happen…. hich and ya knopw thas alsrifgt I love ma asome drinking for Jo0hn is my freinds
New thread
Cause then he’d be a progressive.
They are both weak on healthcare, well Obama is weak, McCain is flat out crazy.
gawwwwd!
you guys playing the drinking game
i gotta give it up to YOU!!!!!
I HAVE to drink just to WATCH this chit, and am, therefore, far ahead of any “games” before anything even gets started.
i do gotta lub lub lub your spirit, tho!
and whoever said it above,
McKeating is just C R E E P Y!!!
AND
hey! Petrocelli.
lol
“clink”
So you can tell what the Comments are all about?
I never thought it would be fair. Hassn’t been since the beginning. double standards and all
JEEzus…McCrazy is grinnin’ and chucklin’ and hoppin around ta the music only he ken hear…he’s startin ta freak me out…Mrs. Norske’s stopped watchin and is readin the lable on the empty Cabernet bottle…think I’ll go chill in the kitchen… this guy’s right out of a Kafka nightmare…
How many folks are believing you can buy insurance for 5K a year, show of hands please.
What do state lines have to do with health care?
McCain’s health plan, get your own fucking insurance and don’t expect us rich people to help you out.
Anyone know how to contact Tom Brokaw? I’d like to leave him a message.
I’m pretty sure you heard “That one” correctly. Kinda says it all, doesn’t it? :-(
McCain promises tax cuts and tax credits. He won’t contol spending because Republics never do. He is lying to everyone except his rich pals.
((((( siri )))))
Salud !
He’s started with the lizard tongue thing.
Come on Norske, hang in their and pass the ammunition.
Privilege, right or responsibility?
WTF? It’s a basic human need. What does that make it, Tom?
Small businessmen understand that they have a responsibility to provide healthcare. That’s why they all do.
Why is McSame dominating this discussion! Yes, Obama says health care is a Right!!! Yes!!!
He just did; straight up for a nation this wealthy.
I just a letter today that my insurance company isn’t going to cover a number of tests that my doctor ordered. This system sucks.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa??????
“Peacemaker” in the World? What is this 1987 again…myfriends
Peacemake??? We don’t need no stinkin peacemakers!!!
He’s an e’fing war monger. Mcnutjob saying peace is an oxymoron.
petro,
i jist tripped upstairs.
i HATEIT these 2 level parties!
must take off heels and flatfoot it.
My friends, if McWar gets elected we will not have any friends.
Bo will kill bin laden….
flatlining again johnny
McSame’s red tie makes me think of anger.
Obama’s blue tie makes me think calm.
you saw that right!
CNN on tv has Ohio uncommitted voters by women/men.
CNN on the internet has the squiggly lines for Dems/Ind/Rep
and you can see CNN analyst scoreboards and Obama’s ahead
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/…..am=stream1