9:12 McCain is not my friend and needs to stop assuming that (suz)
9:12 And we have the first blame-the-crisis-on-Fannie-and-Freddie’s-risky-loans moment from McCain. (Eli)
9:10 And we have the first "Senator McCain is right" from Obama. (Blue Texan)
9:09 Oh good, McCain will take care of greed, excess and cronyism. I wonder which of his lobbyists he’ll put in charge of that. (Eli)
9:08 But he’s talking about mortgage relief, going to the left of Obama, talking about stabilizing home values. Nice move backing Paulson and gutting mortgage relief, Obama! (Pach)
9:07 Angry McCain is here tonight. Oh, joy! (Pach)
9:06 McCain looks feeble, twitchy 10 trillion dollar debt–how much of that is from the war, John? (lalisa)
9:04 Obama talks about failed economic policies of last 8 years. How about 30 years? Howdy, Ronnie! (Pach)
9:04 Obama pointing out that the financial crisis is the direct result of Republican (Bush and McCain) policies. (Eli)
9:03 McCain’s body language looks really contorted and uncomfortable. (Eli)
9:02 Oh good, Brokaw says he’s selected a list of excellent questions. I was afraid that he might have picked a bunch of crap ones. (Eli)
And we’re off! This is the clown town hall format debate, which apparently means that there will be absolutely no follow-ups allowed, neither from audience members nor from NBC liaison to the McCain campaign moderator Tom Brokaw. Awesome.
This is a must-win debate for McCain. His poll numbers and electoral projections are in the toilet, and his campaign has devolved into stirring up the worst and hoping for the best. He desperately needs a home run, and the town hall format gives him his best chance to hit one. If he underperforms tonight, he’s doubly screwed because next week’s debate is on domestic issues, where he’ll be lucky just to scratch out a walk or an infield hit.
So what should we expect tonight? In a word, Ugly:
"When are you going to take the gloves off?" a John McCain supporter wanted to know this afternoon.
"How about Tuesday night?" McCain replied….
Because the McCain campaign has just been too nice up until now.
[awesome graphic by resident genius twolf]




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I’m scared! Round 1! Last time we got up to 7 Rounds. LOL My fingers were blistered.
Where does he get those marvelous toys ?
Eli !
Love the picture by the way, Eli! Hysterical.
I’ve got CSPAN on and there’s a kind of hush, all over the world
you’ll have to ask Suz for the Earworm cure
hi Eli
oh that is fab
Lipstick on a McJoker!
Gonna watch on CNN so I can the squiggly lines.
Eli! You’re a GEM! Thank you!
LQQk ‘em in the eye…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKVBq4VbC6w
We DON’T need another HERO.
In the south we’re taught to take our hats off indoors. That includes baseball caps, ol’ dood.
So now the town hall is his best chance. Foreign policy debate was supposed to be his best chance. Why are all of the debates suited for Mcnutjob and not BO?
For those interested, C-SPAN has their Debate Hub up and running:
http://debatehub.c-span.org/
Apparently you can splice the debate live and then embed the video. Not sure how it works, but something tells me liveblogging on FDL will keep me from thinking about it! LOL
Great photo! It’s gonna be an OK Corral scenario tonight.
popcorn ready, sock rolled up and ready – let’s start this thing!
It’s freaking hysterical. Love the lips. There’s enough lipstick on there to sink a ship.
Cool pic!!@!
Go Eli!
Howdy, we’re going to be doing some weird thing where we watch the debate and talk while we’re watching, sort of like Mystery Science Theater 3000. Which if we’ve devolved into talking about Bill Ayers as a meaningful topic in a presidential election is about all the seriousness this deserves.
What’s the word?
lol
Aaagh. My wife has the remote and we have to watch on CNN – I want to watch CSPAN.
my friends
Dancing Dave on station, giving the pre-game pep talk for Johnny
Hye Jane -
Evening Dawgs!
It’s CNN for me — I’ve learned to love that audience response line.
Let’s see how much Brokaw slurs his words.
No follow up questions the League of Women Voters never put up with that weak crap!
they’re all uncommitted?
great, 80 fucking idiots.
OMg… Jane is a serious person. *g*
Oh yes Tom. Excellent questions! Bah hahahaha! Oh please.
I can barely stand to look at Brokaw let alone Mcnutjob.
I’m Tom Brokaw and I’m the Real Star tonight !
I am listening on NPR so appreciate visuals as McCain blows a vein.
wheres WOBBS when i need her?
I don’t think there’s enough liquor in the world…
Tom Brokaw is in the tank for McCain.
Sounds like his dentures are loose.
He’s a little slurry.
Nashville.
He’s making his voice VERY DEEP.
And he IS slurring.
He’s always had something of a lisp.
and his eyes obviously reading
Drugs, Booze or so Stupid it burns?
Hey Firedogs -
Noron was bragging earlier about MSNBC having the same gadget CNN has used in the last two –
Help! swapped out security suites on my pc a week ago and now certain things no longer work …like CNN Video – suggestions anyone ?
I’m -so- avoiding jokes involving McC, Brokaw, wrinkly whiteness, and speech imediments.
Get hosed, Brokow, you arrogant twit.
first lol
LOL … you’re warmed up …
I think it’s a loose screw in his brain.
McCrazy’s too short for the chair. Ha!
He’s sounded like that for years.
Tonight’s drinking game:
Drink when Johnny DOESN’T look at Barack when speaking.
We’ll be drunk by Round 2!
Go Jane !!! Go Elly !!!
He’s ALWAYS slurry.
Bilderberger
I noticed Crazy John has a “whistle” sound to some of his words.
It’s a cocktail of all three.
Hi Allen… oh I get it, red, white, and blue. Nice clothes there.
Boy Obama looks daper
First Inning, Obama at bat.
what is wrong w/ Brokaw? Early Parkinsons?
My Word: Ayers
Barack is so presidential. McCain is in his chair playing with a rubberband and a paperclip.
“Final verdict on the failed economic policies of the last 8 years.” Obama comes out with guns blazing.
Obama comes out swinging at economy being Bush and McCain’s fault.
old age
You betcha. Now that could be loose dentures.
His Voice Coach is the same one Palin uses …
Wow, 53 comments and the only the first question has been asked…! ;-)
708!
Answer the f*kin’ question, Obama.
Blaming Bush and the right wingers for the current economic situation is bee-u-tea-full.
Final Verdict = Guilty on all counts!
HELL YEAH!
LOL Well he is!
Him and Larry Kudlow Party together with Cindy McCain at GOP parties.
McCain = Sarcasm R Us
AMERICANS ARE ANGRY WITH THE REPUBLIC PARTY.
Okay, Obama leads of with an intelligent, cogent answer on the economy. Now McCain has to figure out how to say nothing for a couple minutes.
same old,same old
Here we go, the whole economic problem is high taxes and energy.
obama looks WAY comfortable right now, MUCH better start then last debate, I am looking forward to this now
Let’s not raise taxes on anyone.
WTF does energy have to do with…. awww never mind, he already gave up.
oy he sounds like Sara
McCain’s solution to the current economic crisis is energy independence… Right… That’ll work when nobody can get a dime in credit.
Gramps blows a line he’s been saying for months now. (”countries that don’t like us very much”)
My friends.
McCain is droppin’ his g’s
Don’t raise taxes says Johnny, oh but spending $10 billion a month in Iraq is cheap, giving tax cuts to the uber wealthy was a bargain, and then having Wall Street crash to steal billions/trillions more!!
Republic presidency are so cheap and tax free. Americans don’t have to EVER open their wallets. Spit.
my friends …DRINK
*my friends* … L’chaim
First, now second “my friends” of the evening.
YOU ARE NOT MY FUCKING FRIEND!!!!
He wants to propose a McCain Proposal.
McCain’s doing his Palin, “breathy” impression.
Hmmm. He’s only 68.
McCain would buy the home loans at present value? He just out lefted Obama!
The GOP will riot.
NcSame knows how to do it, you name it, he knows!
Anybody playing a drinking game with “My Friends” is gonna really be sorry in the morning.
Did he miss his nap? It would be horrifying but riveting to watch him sundown on national TV…
that’s for me to know
See, McCain is talking about ending out need for oil outside of the US.
I posted my opinion that Sarah was the focus on getting us out of trusting other nations.
We can get the oil here. And if you kill all the animals, it won’t matter.+
McCain engaging the questioner directly. That’s probably good. He sounded like he was “answering the questioner’s question” more than Obama did, imo.
Mcnutjob is talking about letting people stay in their homes, so why didn’t he stay in washington and work that out in the bail out package?
sARA injection
holy crap, mccain is channeling sarah palin…HE HAS STOLEN HER STYLE!
I can tell Johnny wants to go home now. He’s had enough of this debate.
“Not you Tom” Rolling on the floor…
I appoint Todd Palin.
“Not you tom.”
Ugh, I wanted to puke.
Who would McCain make SecTreas? Can’t say Gramm can you?
Meg Whitman my ass
No taxes, but we’ll institute an program that will take care of everything. Is it expensive, you bet! Pay for it, no need to worry your pretty little heads…
What about Carly Fiorina?
he is NOT aging well
Dumb Joke…”Not you, Tom”???
The EBay lady as head of the Treasury? Yikes?
He wants Meg Whitman for Ebay Treasury.
have to agree, I think he won that question
I’d be dead… I’m throwing rolled up socks at the TV every time he says it. I wish I had a dog to fetch them back to save me the work… I don’t have that many socks…
damn – I was hoping he’d say Phil Gramm.
But Meg Whitman in Paulson’s job? Puhlease…
Who did he say he would appoint as Treasury Sec? LOL
ya owe me a fizzy
Ok, just now McCain mentioned warren buffet as a supporter of Obama, and looked at Obama. He learned from the last debate.
dammit.
beat me to it.
McCain is blinking again
Oh yes, certainly let’s make the economy mirror e-bay. that’ll work.
the way mccain said he was glad to have obama with him leads us to believe he is not going to attack
Okay, Meg Whitman. Nevermind.
McCain didn’t exactly answer the question about Treasury Secretary, did he? I’m thinking Obama won’t either.
get shorty!
hehehehehehehhe
maladjustment of the meds…i say Cindy took em
Obama really is connecting with the audience.
Middle class. Middle class. WTF happened to the working class?
Meg whitman!
She got rid of that wasteful plane for Painlin…and the toast with Jezus picture on it
*gentle reminder* please no shouting in all caps
Obama says it’s not THE individual but the principles that T Secretary follows.
obama goes on attack before mccain
that is a surprise, he brings up mccain’s statements, this opens the door for mccain, and obama now sounds uncomfortable
“senator mccain is right”!
man, this man does not know how to conduct a debate at all
sadlyyes and Petrocelli -
At the rate mccrazy’s going, y’all are gonna be under the table in about 10 minutes. *g*
Whoa. Brokaw reminding them of the rules?
Oliver has just asked a question that not a single human being on the face of the planet has the answer to…
Tom looks old, too. Cuz he is, I guess.
Rescue Wall Street….bailout the boat for Wall Street to rescue it…same diff.
Mccain looks like a guy who’s trying to get up the nerve to ask a girl for a dance.
he’s one of us, yanno
“I suspended my campaign and went back to Washington…”
Puhleese!
IIII SUSPENDED, brothers and sisters, I suspended.
I thought that was brilliant … don’t get pigeon holed by the question …
The Thugs must be steamed that McShame hasn’t taken his gloves off yet.
Wow! Baldfaced lying re suspending campaign and saving the US of A.
It’s past his 9pm nap time!
I’m there now …
i have to watch w/out sound. i’m too keyed up.
Ha thought McC would go all Fannie/Freddie. It’s the R meme and their stickng too it.
ok!
Well that lets Paulson out.
I am beginning to believe mccain has had the questions pre-fed, he is really prepared with the questions, right on point, he also really does look comfortable in this town hall thingy
oh good Johnny Mac calls it a “Rescue” plan.
and it was Obama’s friend and cronies who made all those shitty loans.
yea must drink water in between
Squiggly lines don’t agree with McCain blaming Obama for bad loans.
FAlse premise by mccain . crock o shite.
McCain: “I want Meg Whitman…everyone will sell their family heirlooms on Fed-Bay…the new on-line pawn shop.”
Does McSchmuck get to talk forever?
ok–mccain attacked with fannie mae comment…
gettin’ all kindo campaign contributions…
STFU you geriatric buffoon.
Here, Marion, I’ll lend you a bunch of my sox.
McCain is flatlining on CNN
No it was the reserve fund that first broke the buck. twerp
mccain now goes on attack, going after obama’s relationship with fanny representatives, second highest recipient of fanny may money in history
these are good attacks
I bet Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac gave Barack Obama “record amounts of money” (as Johnny just said), BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE’S THE ONLY ONE TO SAVE AMERICA! Hey, could be.
there you are
McCain really is not offering anything but mud. With some “fannies” and “freddies’ thrown in for good measure.
What is this water of which you speak ?
Oh look! It’s all Fannie and Freddie’s fault! Where have I heard that before?
yay sqiggly lines!!!
Blaming poor people too. Doesn’t say why the Republicans didn’t do something about Fannie and Freddie when they controlled the White House and the Congress.
LMAO!
“not surprisingly” oooooo
Obama calling out McCain lie. Blaming de-regulation.
Obama:
“Not suprisingly…”
AWESOME!
(not suprisingly!)
My esteemed opponent couldn’t tell the truth from a 10 ton truck running over his foot
not according to the sqiggly lines
I had to come upstairs…mr. m is in front of the tee vee downstairs, reporting to me. I had a long stressful day at work, don’t to compound it. Blogging is better.
I’m not feeling Obama here. I hope he picks it up.
truth my friend,truth
McCain: When are you just going to give me the Presidency I deserve.
Obama: Have at thee, charlatan
WHY can’t Obama learn to say, “I’m glad Senator McCain agrees with me that . . .” instead of the weak “Senator McCain is right”?
Thanks!!!
But not answering the question for Oliver. He’s flat lining.
mccain still can’t look at him.
187 is to you
Barack just said he had to fix record to what McCain just said and then he told the audience, ‘as usual’. Bah hahahahahaha!
Rick Davis. Good.
i had to go pick hubby up from work and pick up some um libations for the mr so he can play the drinking game
OK, I’m feeling it more better now.
Keep going!
Oh, please, she lives in Maine. !
She should have plenty.
Doncha thing?
Obama shoots – nothing but net.
Suck on Rick Davis there, JohnnyMac!
Me too.
Tom Brokaw is the fastest moderator I’ve ever seen.
McCain is ripe for a blow-up.
i agree. i can’t take it tonight. besides we’ll witness lots of hand wringing and ‘oh noes’ here blogging *g*
Yes, it is going to get worse before it gets better, especially when up to now the approaches used aren’t addressing the fundamentals.
Are you deciding on whether to vote for him or date him ?
I’m loving watching Obama’s CNN lines hit the roof…followed by McPutz’s tanking…
obama sound s intelligent, mccain doesn’t. that’s the ballgame really. people want someone with answers to the debacle.
although don’t much like obama saying it wont get worse. it will.
My friend… Drink!
McCain wants to get rid of cronyism! There!
McNasty,McNasty
hmm. a new mortgage at the new value of their home. ????
Squiggly lines not liking grandpa tonight. From top with Barry to flatline on the last transition.
What McCain’s talking about with buying up mortgages is from FDR’s administration, HOLC.
It’s about to get heated up in there.
Cronyism and bad boys are the problem. And Obama didn’t sign my letter.
McCain saying he’s against cronyism. Do the crony lobbyists around him know?
Why would his name be on the letter? He wrote his own!
Yup, he’s ready to blow. Hope it happens tonight!
McCain,
“I’d like you to see the letter I sent, your name wasn’t on it.”
I wonder if the letter was signed “McCain’s mom.”
No, workers STILL not == Economy, JM.
He’s percolating alright.
Teresa Finch gets to submit a question that she can’t even fucking READ? Sweet Jesus on toast points…
What is the shot phrase?
Mc looks as if he is more on downers than uppers tonight.
Well, that’s a pretty good question: “How can we trust either of you with our $$”
Don’t think so. I think he’s on happy drugs. Everyone is his friend.
Got a furniture dolly to wheel him to wherever later?
Both parties got us in this mess. Yes, the Republicans by what they did. The Democrats by what they didn’t do.
“My friends,” heaven help us all!
McBUSH
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
here’s a little factoid i picked up watching the bush kerry 04 debate on cspan today. From 2000 to 2004 the bush admin ran up an debt of, are you read?
700 billion bucks,
um
ATTENTION BARACK OBAMA! ATTENTION BARACK OBAMA!
You’re debating an angry old man who screams at trees in the park! It’s time to scream AT HIM NOW and tell the audience how much of a piece of crap he is and how dangerous he is!
Something tells me there could be a lot of really drunk bloggers we all played along. Thank gosh I can’t on a Monday night.
Barack is pinning the needles!
My dear Marion….I thought the exact same thing….I guess she was chosen on the writing. ;)
Reagan-Bush 1, Debt. Clinton-Surplus. Bush 2, the great depression 2. It’s pretty f*cking obvious, lady.
Is any one listening to Jane ? she made it sound like it would be running commentary
CINDY STOLE HIS VICOs again….hahahahaahahaahaha
Whaat? Marion in Savannah lives in Maine?
I’m new with the squiggly lines. did Obama just blow them through the roof?
Has Theresa’s eyes glazed over yet? I’m not sure BO’s answer will satisfy her/them.
McNasty’s up…
fresh thread up
There isn’t that much x in the whole world.
they did their share in the ’90’s with deregulation and NAFTA. Plenty of blame to go around.
“My Friends” – Lethal
“Washington Insiders” – Toxic
“I resign” – teetotaler
McCain has always advocating breaking the system for those who want to get rich quick.
Yea, that’s what I thought he just said! I was scratching my head!
The system in Washington is broken. ButI have taken the lead cuz I am Bi.
McCain:
“I have been a consistent reformer.” That’s why my campaign is stacked with lobbyists.
If McCain keeps saying cronyism he keeps reminding everyone of the Kiss he and Bush had.
New thread
System in Washington is broken. McCain should know he helped break it.
Lieberman and bipartisanship. Ugh.
Yup, but don’t worry, grandpa will bring them back to the middle.
McCane has worked with Lieberman on climate change. News to me!
OK, compared to BO, McNasty is tanking on this answer.
i’ll just leave him on the couch. he’s not using, ‘my friends’, rather stuff like ‘ayers, middle class, etc’
Well, to be charitable, perhaps she was paralytically terrified at being on TeeBee…
System is broken in Wash….well, who has been leading for the past 8 years? Who wanted a really big war? Mc fought against all that.
“Maverick” or “My friends”.
IRAQ WAR,IRAQ WAR
McBush walks like a monkey. I don’t care if that’s offensive. He offends me.
How’s Gramps gonna improve his score when he’s giving the same answers he gave at the first debate?
Been following on msnbc; lovely to hear the “line” is with us tonight. :-)
“Maverick” is a double shot.
don’t agree. obama has to avoid th angry black man bit. priority.
mccain campaign is running ads of obama with shots of him angry expression on face. he has to be cool.
708
You know, I’d be feeling kind of uncomfortable having mcnasty JUST talk to me after I asked my question, though. It’s kind of fake-looking.
How can anyone be uncommitted?
More starve the beast.
Talking to Lieberman is not reaching across the aisle, you wanker.
LOL! I think it’s best he play it cool, but it is a fun thought! I’ll drink to it.
If he reached across the aisle to me I’d…never mind.
that’s my problem with this debate
I’ll bet Kennedy and Feingold are sorry thet ever worked with this dipwad.
Wow, clever. McCain criticizes defense spending. He’ll lie about anything.
now mccain is starting to breath heavy like a dirty old man
mccain begins to sound like a granny…tattle-tale. Lemme know another secret ’bout Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKVBq4VbC6w
We DON’T need another HERO.
I don’t see fireworks or mccain breakdown
I also don’t see obama as slamming the door shut, the campaign goes on
heading home, I hope there is a breakdown from john that I can read about when I get there
c all L8tr
most overused word, soon to be made illegal in the political arena;
“fundamental…fundamentally…fundamentalamundo”
STOP USING THE WORD, YOU’VE RUINED IT!
shouting, gives self time out
Wow, Mcnutjob…. it’s a liefest.
what does ‘winning’ look like, mc…???
and this is BOMB IRAN of mccain fame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLv4mtwsRos