I don't know about you, but I hit Palin bingo about 3 minutes in.
- Biden wins.
- Biden wins, pt. 2.
- Here's one reason why.
- General CW now is that Palin held her own.
- But will that hold? Palin unwittingly ends with, um, strange Reagan quote.
- Number of times Palin said "maverick" or "mavericks": 6.
- Number of times Palin mentioned Preznit Bush:1.
- Sully's got good debate reax as usual.
- Before debate, Palin says Cheney's worst moment as VP was "the duck hunting accident."
- House to vote on new bailout bill today.
- Can McSame make an October comeback? Signs point to no.
- McSame in CO; Palin in TX (wooo!); Obama in PA; Biden in DE
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BINGO!
General CW now is that Palin held her own.
What’s CW? Convential wisdom??
why the hell is she in TX? That’s in the bag for them, yes?
I never thought I would see the day when Andrew Sullivan was right.
She’s brushing up on her foreigh policy. Texas is right next to Mexico.
And now judge refuses to block investigation. Doesn’t look good. I am sure they will go to the SCOTUS for an emergency injunction (and may very well win), but just having this spectacle going on 4 weeks before election can’t look good.
Anchorage Daily News link:
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/543892.html
Throw Sarah Palin back in the ocean.
In this crucial point in American history,
the middle class needs a Wonkette, not a Winkette.
Per Pollster.com the latest poll shows McC up 52-43. They must have some internal polling saying Texas needs saving.
This was a replay of Dan Quayle - Sen. Benston debate.
Quayle basically ignored most of the questions, went straight to the same repeated TALKING POINTS every chance he had. Ditto for Palin.
The Republican paid pundits raved about how Quayle was focused, and on-point. In fact he was showing disrespect for the debate questions, and disrespect for the American people who tuned in to hear positions, instead of pre-manufactured slogans and disproven charges.
At least, Dan Qualye didn’t have the nerve to wink at the audience, and ask for increased powers for the vice presidency.
ENOUGH!
probably right. she was in florida last weekend and must have gotten some insight here because she did mention the Castro brothers last night.
why the hell is she in TX? That’s in the bag for them, yes?
McCrazy was in Iowa Wednesday - a totally lost cause.
Palin in TX today? Maybe they thought she’d self-destruct last night, and would need some nice friendly crowds to make her feel better.
Bottom line - two wasted days for the McGrumpy campaign, which is rapidly running out of days.
in alot of ways. but biden didn’t get in a memorable zinger like Benson did. he was advised against it by almsot everyone and I tought that was wrong? why? because palin is a woman and ignorant? insulting.
this, i can agree with.
today the house of representatives is scheduled to debate and vote on taxpayer sellout / wall street bailout.
probably right. pep rally. get a big, adoring crowd on TV.
it occurs to me that if Palin met low expectations then she raised expectations of her. i don’t think she can meet them.
Pelosi paying thousands to husband’s firm
they are spinning MADDLY for the dolt with a beehive
and
In other words, for every dollar in equity, it had $33 of debt. The ratios at the other firms also rose significantly. The 2004 decision for the first time gave the S.E.C. a window on the banks’ increasingly risky investments in mortgage-related securities. But the agency never took true advantage of that part of the bargain.
The supervisory program under Mr. Cox, who arrived at the agency a year later, was a low priority. The commission assigned seven people to examine the parent companies — which last year controlled financial empires with combined assets of more than $4 trillion. Since March 2007, the office has not had a director. And as of last month, the office had not completed a single inspection since it was reshuffled by Mr. Cox more than a year and a half ago. The few problems the examiners preliminarily uncovered about the riskiness of the firms’ investments and their increased reliance on debt — clear signs of trouble — were all but ignored.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10.....3se…
This should be interesting. I’m wondering how many of those 190+ Dems who were pwned Monday have seen the light. My guess is under 10. Morons.
OT, here’s the link for ”Boogeyman: The Lee Atwater Story”
The worst thing to happen to American politics, a Republican of course.
http://www.boogiemanfilm.com/
I wished Biden, after the debate was over, had patted Sarah on the back and then started rubbing it to find a wire. Now that would have been beautiful theater.
she NEEDS TO GO
Good NEWS, teh IGgy’s are awarded
http://www.guardian.co.uk/scie.....bel.awards
yes. but if she did not represent the wishes of her caucus, she would not be speaker. our problems go much deeper than the person who is speaker.
Years ago in my favourite watering hole two undercover detectives were outed when one of the local lotharios ran his hand down on of their backs. She was wearing a wire. These two attractive cops couldn’t get out of the place fast enough.
i forgot to say that i put the details/links on today’s planned vote on the bailout in a diary.
Alka-Seltzers all around for those of you who drank a shot each time she said maverick.
It’s then rule of the stopped clock.
Palin is a bad joke. She is totally unqualified to be Vice President or, shudder, President. It says a lot about the state of our politics that she would the VP candidate and it says even more about our media, and their penchant for completely missing the point and propagandizing, that they think she ”held her own.” I used ”folksy” to describe her performance last night as snark. So what was I to think when I saw pundits describing her just that way, as in she didn’t answer any question directed at her, had no command of issues or specifics, but, as if this makes up for all that, she was ”folksy.”
LOL
i just find myself amazed at THE PAID SHILLS finding coherence in anything that woman said last night.they must have lost a bundle in Booshies stock market.
Oh yeah. I saw Mort Konri-dick on FOX. Remember when Biden got pissed at Plain trying to own the “Washinghton needs me ”cause I know about real families around the kitchen table”? Toward the end when he pointed out how he was a single father after hsi wife was killed. Mort commented how Boden was boring and that was his only real moment buit he only became a single father after hsi wife died — then “corrected: himself and said “or was injured” in a car accident. Only. Was injured. Prick.
What time to the critters start the circle jerk?
Apparently not enough for them to get a glimpse of reality.
Do the Joe six packs get extra kudos if they are six packs of bud
I was doin’ one each time Biden said “Look…..” I feel fine. Should have made it Joe sayin’ “Ya know what?”
What’s up Jim? Clinto was right up the road from me on Wednesday. Orange Countuy can tip this state to barck and Joe.
lol!
no doubt.
Things keep getting better for GOP!
Judge will proceed with Stevens’ trial:
http://www.adn.com/news/politi.....43579.html
Hugh @ 28
Folksy: Palin is the product of 20 years of hate radio, and FoxNews. Rove found his Bush for 2008, she relates to the low info voters, men want her, women want to knit with her while downing a Bud… Another moron appealing to the (moronic) base.
Quotes and strikingabc are screwy.
heh - Linda Douglass, on MSNBC’ MorningPuke, responding to Mika and JoeScar, who are prissily pissed that Obama hasn’t “given interviews”.
Douglass says that Obama gave seven interviews after his speech Wednesday, and she’s sorry that Joe et al got left out.
“After the debate, 66 percent see Palin as knowledgeable about important issues…”
Who are these people?
i don’t know when the official debate will start and on cspan this morning they are talking as though there is still perhaps a bit of doubt about it.
the house convenes at 9am for 1min statements. i expect many (most?) of those statements will be on the bailout, especially as the official debate time is so short.
last vote for the day is supposed to be complete by 3pm.
the 66 percent who didn’t listen to the debate?
thanks - I would have bet against that.
Still, if the prosecution is this inept, look for Toobz to walk.
So the problem is not only in the pols, but in the dumb ass citizens of this nation who haven’t a clue and are uninterested in anything but sports, cars, food, guns, pop music… and sex.
We can’t expect things to change until more of the people get a clue. The dumbing down of the country was not accident. It facilitates their being manipulated and played like puppets on a string. Pundits pull the strings and the people dance.
but they’re out tehre and that’s scary. hopefully not in Ohio, FL or PA and some other places. where was that poll from?
Peony @ 66 reply not worky
they are the air heads calling into C=span
I thinks she’s quite good. Saw her before the debate also clarifying truth to talking head BS.
She started at the local nbc station in LA, CA and knows her stuff. She’s very affective. Really good for Obama.
Three six pack Joes maybe?
SanderO @ 44
”citizens of this nation who haven’t a clue and are uninterested in anything but sports, cars, food, guns, pop music… and sex.”
Guns, god and war, yes, sex, I don’t think so…*g*
Charlie Rose had one of his get together of living fossils last night: Al Hunt of Bloomberg, Cokie Roberts, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Connie Schultz, Mark Halperin, and the fossil in chief Rose himself. And yes, they all thought that Palin did OK. No analysis or discussion of the content, just she did OK.
But then they moved on to the bailout bill and that is where things got strange even for this group. They all of course support the bailout. And as with the debate there was not a single sentence uttered that analyzed the bill’s contents or showed that any of them had read or had the least idea about it, or if it would work. But then there was a truly stunning display of dishonesty by Cokie Roberts. She went off on a rant and said, without a scintilla of evidence to back it up, that a majority of the country favored the bill and that opposition to it had been whipped up by a bunch of left and right wing bloggers. You would have to see the clip to hear the contempt directed at the internet. Again not a fact or a poll cited to support her view just a bald statement that it is so because she wanted it to be. Not a word about whether maybe just maybe those filthy bloggers just happened to be right. Not a syllable about the contents of the bill or whether it would succeed. Nothing to try and understand why so many Americans were against it. Nor anything about this being yet another instance where the Administration waits until the last moment to act and then thrusts something atrocious down the throat of the Congress, and the public.
It was unintentionally an amazing indictment of what passes for the news media in our country.
I can’t get over the fact that those in Washington don’t care about and don’t seem to want input from the voters.
I think she’s great. JoeScar’s last comment of the morning of the morning was a blast directly at her.
Those delicate Republican sensibilities….*sigh*
I so feel for Joe. As to exactly *what* I feel - it’s pretty much unprintable.
You forgot beer!
Hey, BFL. Sorry, had a few chores. Tree guys are here for a long leaf pine the beetles got and I had to move irrigation equipment out the pasture I’m turning horses out into this morning.
I hope Barack comes here before it’s over. I’ll bet he could fill Ben Hill Griffen Stadium. Or at least the O’dome.
here’s link to the show
that is such bullshit. He did an interview with Bill O’Lieley for God’s sake. Think Palin will do one with Rachel or KO? The offer is on the table. he’s been doing interviews for what? A year? More?
You live in Cross Creek?
Christy’s up
Election Day Hell — And How To Avoid It
You would have to see the clip to hear the contempt directed at the internet.
gee, maybe we should have a Cokie thread - and be sure that everybody spotlights it toward her inane ass.
Kucinich is speaking.
no need to apologize, man. just talkin to someone yesterday about that. needs to get to Central FL area. coast to coast. really important for him. other areas of the state aren’t as up for grabs. he was in Tampa for debate prep wasn’t he? he didn’t get out too much though, did he? I’d like to see him doing the bigger venues again. probably in the last week before the election. hey, springsteen’s having a concert for Barack & Joe in Philly and one in NYC, if I heard right.
Hey, Raven, you hereabouts? Did you see Imus say he’s startin’ to get irritated with McCain…about the Palin pick and other rash gambles…
Can you say tippin’ point?
In watching both debates on CNN (in Japan I have no other channel choice), I noticed that on the independent voter tracker, whenever Obama or Biden said something nice about John McCain, their approval ratings went down. When they attacked him, the ratings went up. Perhaps there are a lot of people out there who really don’t like McCain and want to have their impressions reinforced. So would someone in the know or with the right connections pass the word on to stop making with the nice when it comes to John Sidney. The attacks don’t have to be personal, but the “McCain is my friend” or “I respect Senator McCain” is not going over with the undecided voters.
Yep. Last weekend Bob Graham and the former Dem Gov of Mississippi came to High Springs. Not a huge turnout, but our part of Florida is very conservative if you get out of Gainesville, so I was very encouraged they’re working the small towns in the red parts of the state. Obama’s campaign is well organized and focused here.
I hope he doesn’t switch, he always back the loser!
from david cay johnson.
don’t know how you do it - my television would probably not survive if i watched that bs.
Before debate, Palin says Cheney’s worst moment as VP was “the duck hunting accident.”
Actually, and this is pretty sad, shooting a man (probably drunkenly) in the face is not even close to being the worst thing Cheney has done in office.
And she treated it as if something had been done to Poor ol’ Cheney…just to say. I stayed here way toooo late last night. What fun. Also watched Charlie Rose, and he had a good panel. Thanks to you all for the running notes on Cutie-Pie, wink-wink. So I am dragging my tired, over-slept self out into a lovely day. Enjoy. See you this evening ;)