McCain on Morning Joe decrying inside the beltway cronyism… in yet another example of his total disconnect with McCain….

Morning Prairie! And may I say, thank goodness for coffee?

McCain must be engaged in preemptive innoculation of his ticket from Palin’s performance tonight?

“I’m not a rich man,” says McCain.

Mornin’ Christy…just heading to brew my Caribou now. Thinkin’ of Barbara and her rough road these days.

Nutty? Cue KLo:, who is an expert on privacy, much to her personal consternation….

sorry.

“I’m not a rich man,” says McCain, “but I was a POW.”

Was just thinking about her last night as I was popping the ingredients in the bread machine for a loaf this morning, and wondering how she’s doing. Hugs to barbara, if she gets a chance to read this morning, and to David.

And, may I say, the bread machine is the best thing I’ve gotten in ages. Waking up to a fresh loaf of oatmeal bread this morning was sheer heaven…

*snort*

A POW who sang like a canary, let us not forget, unlike many of the other POWs from his time. In the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone, there’s a long article about Johnny Mac ‘n Cheez’s military history. Really frightening.

She says she’s a “Federalist.” Maybe someone should ask her what that is?

Oh, I’m glad that your household gets not only you, but fresh bread too! I’ve been using a machine primarily to mix dough for many years. My family hoovers through bread like crazy, and the machine allows me to turn out loaf after loaf on a daily basis if we want. And we want!

yup. Christy linked to it yesterday, and I linked at the bottom of the last thread.

(and forwarded the article to *several* people)

McCain was snippy with the local reporters at the Des Moines Register and the local NBC affiliate when they asked about Palin’s qualifications and the fact that some on the right were calling for her to step down. He went to his standard beltway comment and ended with I will let the voters decide.

I noticed that he had changed his answer that he gave to the Des Moines Register where he claimed that he had not seen any changes in the polls or with his base. Since the polls that came out later reflected that 3/4 of voters are not comfortable with Palin possibly leading the country.

Or maybe she can say “I support privacy but of course some of us are against it because the Founders of the great nation I would be privileged to serve if we are so blessed to be elected by the American people, who also, I think, some of us would disagree, and some would agree, that they did not specifically put that in the Constitution. So no.”

You know, I have to say that was a part of the Rolling Stone article that rang fairly hollow for me — I have no idea what McCain did or did not say or do, but, under the circumstances, I’m fairly certain I’d blab a fair bit myself. I’m a hardheaded bitch when I need to be, and I’ve stared down a few murderers and violent assholes in my day in court and across the counsel table during abuse hearings and such. But you cannot have any idea what you will or will not do under that kind of duress.

When I was being raped, I would have done anything, said anything, to make it stop. It was that horrible. I was young then, sure, but still. And McCain and every other POW went through hell and back in those days, so it’s really tough for me to pass any judgment on any of that, knowing what a level of incredibly difficult mental and physical stress can do to you in the moment.

My thought is that Palin snatches stuff out of air without understanding the complexities. An inherent right to privacy sounds good - She hasn’t the foggiest as to what she said.

I was wondering about that statement too. Her response was generally contrary to the federalist (in the classic sense) position of the preeminent central government.
She completely contradicts herself when she declares support for the “right to privacy” but then declares the states should be able to modify the right to its choosing. I wonder if she knows what a “right” is.

Good Morning Christy and Firedogs,

haven’t read the RS article yet - but when I first learned that ALL his fellow POW’s were offered early release and not, as he spun it - just “the admiral’s son”, was a rather large lightbulb going off - should have been everyone’s first clue that ‘our good friend’ has a penchant for self aggrandizement

another eye opening tidbit I stumbled across in my journey through Maverickanalia - soon after his homecoming, he offered to testify against Daniel Ellsberg, didn’t have anything to offer of material value, just offered himself up - ding!

CHS,

great post (as always), but the video makes this a classic with not just great insight, but incredible humor.

(((((((Christy!)))))))

I have a question for you Christ, I just don’t get it, maybe you can illuminate;

[Bork] continued to insist that the Court’s privacy decisions were illegitimate because the right to privacy was not in the Constitution. … ”It comes out of nowhere and doesn’t have any rooting in the Constitution,” he said, maintaining that lacking such a rooting in text or the Framers’ intent, judges invite ”disastrous” consequences.

I know it doesn’t fit his ideology but how does he justify his position as contradicts the ninth amendment?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

There are also different shades of privacy — and I don’t think she understands that at all. Privacy in terms of the government staying out of your house without a warrant, or your right to confidential financial records, etc., is one thing. Inherent privacy in terms of regulation of your personal behavior for sex (sodomy laws, for example) or abortion or contraception…that’s a different line of argument under Griswold and its progeny. And I don’t think Palin was capable of distinguishing between the concepts. Which is really bizarre, given that she’s been touted as the right-to-life poster girl. You’d think she might have had a little intellectual curiousity to look up some of the philosophical underpinnings of their arguments.

Or at least ask someone to explain it, since they were fronting her out as their poster girl.

You know, I am worried that soon more and more people will start writing and talking like Palin and then no one will know what the other person is saying! Could you imagine what it would be like if, for example, Christy wrote her posts like Palin talks?

McCain was snippy with the local reporters at the Des Moines Register and the local NBC affiliate…

Snippy? ok, that’s a word.

So are mean, condescending, sarcastic….

Johnny’s getting ready to blow. It’s in his interviews - and I’m seeing it on his face.

Also he seems to be becoming increasingly divorced from Cindy (sorry) *reality*, and living in some simultaneously grandiose and delusional world of his own….

That video made me laugh my ass off. I’ve watched it four times now and I still have to put down my coffee because I laugh out loud. hehehehehe

Kind of like a human talking parrot?

Christy -

I did catch that in between guffaws - trying now to find a complete Couric transcript as there was another point in the, um, interview where she tacitly stated she would support Roe as law of the land

Careful, I suggest that you visit Hanoi and, in particular, visit the old French prison where McCain was imprisoned. McCain may have been bad news before and after that experience. But do not trivialize it.

In Bork’s world, the law is what he says it is. Which is to say, if he doesn’t like a particular precedent, he feels free to say it’s wrong, even if it’s been law for years. (a la Ledbetter…welcome to Federalist Society make the law in my own image world)

haven’t read the RS article yet….

You really should read it asap, imnsho.

(can I buy a vowel?)

http://www.rollingstone.com/ne.....ohn_mccain

As a person who appreciates the use of apostrophes and other grammatical tools, I have been thinking a bit about how one learns to speak and keep the pronouns in agreement. It is a course of study in writing, but Palin has a knack for this type of mishmash in her speaking. I really don’t hear people speak like this. We’ll need even more help if people take cues from her.

We’ll need even more help if people take cues from her.

S’okay. She’s favorin’ shakin’ up and fixin’ some stuff, like teachin’, ya know…

Caroline Kennedy co-authored an interesting book a few years ago on the right to privacy, how it began to be understood over the last century based on court rulings. Some of the cases were fascinating.

Is that you, Sarah?:-)

Yes or a Miss teen USA contestant from SC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

It was in a different/earlier interview. She talked about her pro-life stance…..then said at the end….of course I would never send anyone to jail for getting an abortion.

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m getting the impression that Sarah hasn’t read that one. *g*

she’s behaving like someone who has won a trip to China and is stumbling over key Mandarin phrases in preparation -

where is the bathroom ?

How much does it cost ?

I am lost.

Do you speak English ?

this creature trods on the scaffolding of wingnuttian

Palin is all about abortion on faith. It has nothing to do with the Constitution. Katie mentions the “cornerstone of Roe” in her aside. Palin does not blink. She seems to have some understanding of states’ rights, but clearly does not understand “Federalist” and the contradiction of the two in her statements.

loved it !

David Letterman’s Things Top Ten List - “Overheard At Palin Debate Camp”

10. “Let’s practice your bewildered silence.”

9. “Can you try saying ‘yes’ instead of ‘you betcha’?”

8. “Hey, I can see Mexico from here!”

7. “Maybe we’ll get lucky and there won’t be any questions about Iraq, taxes or healthcare.”

6. “We’re screwed!”

5. “Can I just use that lipstick-pit bull thing again?”

4. “We have to wrap it up for the day — McCain eats dinner at 4:30.”

3. “Can we get Congress to bail us out of this debate?”

2. “John Edwards wants to know if you’d like some private tutoring in his van.”

1. “Any way we can just get Tina Fey to do it?”

Christy, I’m thinking that reading “everything that crossed my desk” did not include much (except that famous John Birch pamphlet that was on her desk in a NYT photo).

I think Bible Spice wants her inherent right to her privacy - especially the right to fire anyone she wants in private a la Troopergate. She also wants the right to her privacy when it comes to what she has done, not done, what she does or who she does it with. She loves her power, but just like Cheney, she wants to operate privately.

I can only imagine her surprise when she realized that the legal concept of an inherent right to privacy arose from cases that legalized contraceptives and abortion.

“Can you try saying ‘yes’ instead of ‘you betcha’?”

been catching something in watching the Alaska Debate vids - that ‘you betcha’/Gladys Lehman lilt is much less pronounced - it is an intentional affectation

I was laughing with Mr. ReddHedd yesterday about the interview where she can’t name any publication she reads, either newspaper or magazine. Because the National Enquirer has been so mean to her, she couldn’t even say that she reads that at the beauty shop. *g* I mean, honestly, she couldn’t come up with National Review or Weekly Spectator or any conservative anything to throw a bone to the red meat crowd? That was just sad, man.

Hi guys! I haven’t posted in forever, but this post just brought back to me again Christy’s brilliance. Thanks for revealing what that nagging question in the back of my head was about right to privacy and abortion. Honestly, I think she may be “solid in her convictions” but I don’t think she is smart enough to understand the means being used to attempt to change the law on abortion. And this is who McSame wants on the button after he keels over. Oh noes!

It’s a very Northern Idaho accent, I have to say. I’ve been wondering if her parents aren’t traveling around with her, and if she’s keying off their accents?

We’re having a neighborhood viewing party tonight to mock the hell out of “Little Miss Glittering Generalities”

FYI:

TWO TRILLION FIVE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS

The amount of uninsured deposits that were held on account in US banks under the $100,000 FDIC insurance limit (as if the FDIC has any mechanism to cover ANY future defaults given their recent bank takeovers - regardless of the limit set).

Welcome to the point of recognition, where the public finally figures out that the money they deposited in their “bank” isn’t there - and neither is the FDIC “insurance.”

Confidence Trick

A confidence trick or confidence game, also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, scam, scheme, or swindle is an attempt to defraud a person or people (known as the “mark”) which involves gaining his or her confidence.

Pyramid scheme - non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, usually without any product or service being delivered. Compare to multi-level marketing which uses a similar structure to market products or services.

White-collar crime - crime committed by a person of respectability and high social status in the course of his occupation.

Persons of any level of intelligence are vulnerable to deception by experienced con artists. Confidence tricks exploit human weaknesses like greed, dishonesty, vanity, but also virtues like honesty, compassion, or a naïve expectation of good faith on the part of the con artist.

this just in - Gwen Ifill will remain as moderator of tonight’s debate, despite conservative concern comically desperate attempts to pre-smear tonight’s results and blame it on *somebody* else.

It took me forever to dig up that “nutty” bit from Bork’s confirmation hearings. I tried to find a transcript of the full hearing online, but came up short. If anyone finds one, I’d love it…

I have thought some people (the base) would have appreciated it if she had just been honest and said, “Frankly, Katie, with five children including a special needs baby, and being the executive of my state, I really don’t have time to read much besides legislation.” Then maybe she could have at least mentioned something important that had passed the legislature. It would have been believable.

Do you think she is so scared of giving the press any information that she wouldn’t answer the questions or think she couldn’t answer the question? Of course, it doesn’t matter because she is either A) too stupid to, as Christy says, throw conservative rags or a mix of journals out there or B) to stupid to be able to think of any media. Honestly, I’m not sure which is worse, but I think A might be worse than B because it shows her lack of ability to think logically on her feet.

Also he seems to be becoming increasingly divorced from Cindy (sorry) *reality*, and living in some simultaneously grandiose and delusional world of his own….

Saw on a blog somewhere in the last day or so (oh, think it was one talking about the house they’re planning to sell) that showed a photo supposedly of his “office” and commenting that it was tricked up similar to the Oval Office. Yeah, big time delusional………

but……but….but…….he never had an office when he was a POW…….

Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin give us a geography lesson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN1sbt-JQ64

Did you notice how Sarah kept trying to walk away from Katie during that exchange?

That’s just been so sadly transparent, I haven’t even had the heart to mock it. Pa. The. Tic. I mean, honestly, didn’t the McCain campaign bother to look up what Ifill was up to? Yet another example of slack-assed non-attention to detail. Rubes.

I beleive it was more a fear for public knowledge of what she reads then not having something to say.

The McCains don’t own that house any longer — sold it in the 1990s. The tricked up version was the new owner’s idea of decor. Just FYI…

Oh, I thought it must be akin to the Norwegian(?) Francis McDormand accent in Fargo. I used to have occasion to speak on the telephone with people in the Dakotas and a number of them had that accent. Palen sounds to me like a cross between that and the “Valley Girl” accent.

btw, yesterday mr cbl said, ‘the hell with cases, can she name the Justices ?

If she did, we probably would not linger like we do. After a while (for us that are a little slower) you would begin to get the idea that there’s no there there.

Honestly, what struck me most about the magazines and newspapers question? I think Katie felt sorry for her and was trying to throw her a ringer sort of question. “Well, jeebus, I’ll give her an easy one. What politician doesn’t keep up with current events somewhere. She can at least name a local Alaska newspaper, right?” So she asks what she’s been reading, then gets an utterly nonsensical answer.

And you see this look on Couric’s face like “Uh. Mah. Gawd!” So she follows-up, as she should, and it gets worse. Priceless. You could not possibly predict something like that would happen on such a fricking softball question. It was so bizarre.

Here’s Biden drilling Bork on Privacy

The World According To “Bork From Ork” is here

Thankee very kindly for the update; my bad for passing along misinformation.

cbl2 -

Mr. cbl deserves a big smooch for that question. *g*

Can someone PLEASE explain why they keep going on with Katie Couric, who, as my 74 year old liberal mother said quite honestly has been bringing a boning knife with her to the interviews? I mean, why do they keep going back, like the wingers that keep TRYING to look like something other than idiots on the Colbert Report? Call me crazy, but I think that after the tenth or so time she handed me my ass, I might think, “Hmmm. Maybe we need to try Diane Sawyer…”

Furthermore, this is a HUGE leg up for Couric, who has been completely discounted up until now. She knows it and is loaded for bear (moose??). So again, WHY?

Christy linked to that yesterday. Help me out here, please. Anyone is welcome. I need you big brains to provide some insight.

What’s the difference between the Rolling Stone piece and what the Swift Boat Liars did to Kerry?

The only one I can really come up with is that the SBLs were a PAC and this dude is a journalist. Their methods and motivations are similar, what else is different?

It is sounding more pronounced of late — like she’s purposely overemphasizing the hell out of her consonants. But the accent at the root is pretty Northern Idaho, I think. Very similar in a lot of ways to Minnesota, the Dakotas and such — lots of the same Swedish and Norwegian farming immigrants, I think, so it would make sense that the accents would be similar as well.

And the bar for Palin gets lower and lower… To “win” the debate tonight all she has to do is show up, don’t drool, don’t fall down, and intersperse a few “you betchas” in between whatever inanities spring forth from her mouth. She well “exceed all expectations” and therefore her performance will be declared a rousing success and punditacracy will declare her fit to be “a heartbeat away from the Oval Office”.

… or John the Cranky will have pissed off sufficiently more reporters/columnists/media elite that Caribou Barbie will be judged objectively by the media. Hey, pigs could fly if they tried really, really hard

I’m not a big fan of Ifill, and had learned on FDL that she’s supposedly a friend of Condoleeza Rice, but I hope she keeps her humorless IRS audit approach tonight.

I think this was one interview spread out, palin, bless her heart, did not know she sounded like an idiot

they are simply giving it to us piece meal

I loved it too! Brightened my morning.

She just needs to STFU. She has no clue about anything and then trails off into gibberish.
I can’t believe Alaskans actually ELECTED her for anything.

They purposely picked two “journalists” with a background in morning talk show patter, thinking that Palin would get soft, friendly to mom questions — Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric aren’t exactly known for their hard-edged newsiness. But Palin couldn’t even manage to hold her own with either of them.

It’s the same interview with Couric, for the most part — you’ll notice it’s mostly been the same jacket that Sarah was wearing in the bulk of the clips. The McCain campaign agreed to a lengthy interview that would be split up into more easily digestible segments over several nights on the CBS nightly news, gambling that the interview would go well and they’d own the news cycle for several days as a result. The difference was the joint interview with McCain (she wasn’t wearing her pink suit, but a red jacket, so it was a different taping). The really sad thing is that Couric wasn’t even really asking her anything all that tough. I mean, honestly, who can’t answer a softball question about what newspapers and magazines they read.
ooops…

Palin is snake-bit. From a Bruce Springsteen song : Like a dog that’s been beat too much.

She doesn’t quite know what her masters want her to say or would approve of her saying. She froze on the newspaper question for fear of naming an unapproved paper. She evidently does not read The New Republic, Time or Newsweek. If she did, she may have known that they are safe for Swing Voter consumption.

I would love to get Katie’s honest assessment of Palin. As in if Katie would be comfortable with having this woman one heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Thanks Christy.

digg

Accuracy?

Did you read the whole piece? Because there is a lot of factual information in it that fills in some gaps of things we already knew were true. But some of the journalism, the bit on the POW time especially, was a bit slack, I thought. But the bits and pieces on Keating and McCain’s consistently lax attitude about having to follow the rules or not have a leg up because of who his family was, etc., have always been consistent themes about him — it was nice to get a little more detail, like his mom saving his ass at the Naval Academy to keep him from being thrown out, or having someone else take his demerits even after that — no lesson learned for Johnny.

If it were only about the POW status issues, I never would have linked it. But the stuff about his behavior on the Forrestal, leaving the ship as it limped back to port for his own little R&R jaunt was new to me, as was some of the finer detail on warnings McCain received from various people on Keating. That is newsworthy, I think, because it fits into a larger context for McCain.

But I didn’t really give the POW portion of the article any play, because I think the article would have been better without it, frankly.

Even giving Palin the total neocon benefit of the doubt, and assuming that she’s exceptionally smart, but just gets a serious brain cramp when put in high pressure situations requiring clarity of thought and eloquence, particularly on a world stage -

ISN’T THAT TRAIT A MASSIVE SHOW STOPPER?

Reddit too!

Ifill is awful. She is the worst kind of poseur. A fox in the henhouse. That the right can slather Ifill with lefty/ liberal labels is a farce. Ifill’s warmongering would make her BFF Condi Rice proud. On NPR, Ifill has supported the right wing position on more issues than not.

i think she is scared. it boggles my mind that she couldn’t remember the exxon valdez case whihj was decided a few months ago, was huge stuff in Alaska and with which she expressed disagreement at the time. there were maybe 4 amicus briefs from Alaska in that case including one from the State of Alaska itself which was in a sense — her.

Palin IMO has no concept of the legal term ‘right to privacy’ and the ramifications. Sure, she may understand 4th amendment rights, no search and seizure without probable cause, don’t look in your neighbor’s trashcan (a sort of Christianista concept of being a good neighbor rather than a legal concept) but the real legal concepts, nope, Sarah doesn’t go there. She should have been able to cough up Dred Scott, and Griswold in the list of Supreme Court decisions if she was a real right to lifer with any comprehension of the law. IMO she doesn’t get the connection between privacy and ‘right to life’.

Wait and see. When challenged on this she will crawl behind her ‘joe sixpack regular moose shooting woman’ persona and say she can’t be expected to know all the ins and outs of the law, dontchaknow, and anyhow she is qualified to run for VP because she can hire people who do know the ins and outs of the law, and anyhow, donchaknow she’d love to have a beer with you?
/barf

ok, this is sort of a no no but I am going to post a youtube jane just posted on the next thread, I’mposting it because it is bizarre

in this clip, it looks like mccain has taken “response lessons” from palin, he filibusters and goes on with continuous nonsense as if he’s actually saying something

I actually believe he thinks palin is doing a good job and wants to emulater her style

check this out;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm-Uj9aOhs

She did interviews on AK teevee after the decision was rendered, too. Several of them. It was really odd she cound’t even remember it. She didn’t have to even know the case name — just the “recent Exxon case” would have sufficed. My guess is that she was afraid to mention it because her position on that is anathema to the “tort reform” crowd on the right.

Good point, but more likely she simply suffers from

“Moose In The Headlights Syndrome,”

combined with

“Terminal Rectal Cranial Infarction.”

Thanks Redd.
I agree with you on the veracity of the piece and the specific examples of his behavior supporting what we’ve already figured out about him.

But these examples are a bit too long for use against the mouth breathers.

I was looking for something a bit more pithy to draw a distiction when I put the knife in and give it a twist. It truly is a devastating article.

T-

I don’t doubt at all that being a POW wasn’t horrific, nor do I think that I would necessarily agree to keep any information from my torturers under those circumstances (and, I might add, I’m in no hurry to find out).

Also, I am very, very sorry for happened to you, Christy. My wife was assaulted about 10 years before I even met her and the idea that she would be hurt like that literally makes me physically ill, and I don’t know what I’d do if I ran into that guy.

The difference between you and McCain and his fellow POWs is that out of all those people who have suffered terrible things that no one should ever have to even imagine, much less endure, only one of them is claiming that it gives them some special knowledge, power or privilege–John McCain. His (unsubtly-hinted-at) claim to be a war hero seems to me to be slightly undermined by the fact that he crashed 5 planes. Where I come from, we call that “bad piloting”.

So I don’t think that, necessarily, the fact that he failed to conceal things from his captors to be a deep flaw, when he’s basing his entire run for the highest office in the country (and, for at least a little while longer, the world) on the fact that he was a POW makes it a fair question.

Would we say that, since we can’t say how we might behave if we were faced with the opportunity to steal millions of dollars that we should therefore not consider Ken Lay’s past when he wants to be chairman of the Fed? Especially if his qualification list “Enron” as a major achievement?

Shorter me: McCain started it.

ps. I am aware of all internet traditions.

true. you know, i haven’t heard much about tort reform from them in this campaign. doesn’t make it any less important to the righties and may be one of those causes they feel McCain is too lukewarm about for them and Sarah will advance the right (and I do mean right-far right) position. That could be tying her up in knots. But Biden, for example, if he was in her place, I would think would preface that with some kind of explanation “While I generally believe trial lawyers suck, that case was different…..” or use it as just another example of her mav’rickiness. but something’s wrong with her. from the footage i’ve seen of her she’s never been so inarticulate before. not one to offer great insights. but not this inarticulate with stammering and stuttering and all that.

yes. I think she is terrified of saying the wrong thing and having Schmidt and Davis and grampy yell at her.

It’s SO bad that I’m starting to feel sorry for her. I do feel sorry for her kids-watching their mother just be eviserated by the media. But dontchaknow if grampy had vetted her the media wouldn’t have to.

She’s talking about the Alaska Constitution, which has an enumerated right to privacy.

Specifying a privacy right is the reason Ravin v Alaska is still the law in Alaska, notwithstanding a 1990 referendum attempting to overturn the case.

She could be talking about the AK Constitution, but that isn’t what Couric asked her about, is it? She asked about an inherent right to privacy re: Roe, which is not an AK issue, per se, but a federal one. Palin may have been talking about it in the context of a state’s right issue, but that isn’t inherent privacy — it’s a legislated right via state action.

They were talking about Roe, which was not decided under the AK Constitution in an AK court, but in the SCOTUS under he US Constitution, Bill of Rights and federal law. Apples and oranges, despite them being all mashed together on Palin’s mind. Furthermore, being a federalist is antithetical to being a state’s rights proponent, which is what the anti-federalists were at our Founding. There is no way that any of her arguments make sense outside a context of not having a firm foundation or grasp of the information at the start of this.

Holy Heavens is this woman just AWFUL.
How can ANYONE take her seriously???

And a little bit off-topic - just the other day I was having a rough time and made a post on my blog devoted to the Muppets to make me feel better. One of the videos I linked to was the very same one Christy has above.
What are the chances??
http://i8pixistix.blogspot.com.....ay_25.html

I was giving her a huge slice of benefit of the doubt. If she had Roe as context there’s no way she should be thinking of the AK constitution. I posted mainly to bring up Ravin, as it is a case dear to passionate drug law reformers like myself and I’d like to see it have more currency. It is also arguably germane in that privacy rights were behind the court’s decision albeit not the same 14th amendment/penumbra right in Griswold and Roe.

BTW, the privacy right in AK can’t just be legislated away, it has to go through a constitutional amendment process, which is why the 1990 vote didn’t overturn Ravin.

Thanks, jayt. Someday I’ll learn how to link properly…

Palin threatens 30 years of women’s rights progress..

join the resistance that is taking action: www.saysme.tv/wamp

our psa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IS0PJdE0Cs

Or the Fourth Amendment which is pretty much entirely based upon an individuals inherent right to privacy…as is the Fifth Amendments clause which states that an individual may not be compelled to testify against himself.

And the little mentioned Third Amendment which prevents a State forcibly quartering troops in a persons private residence or upon their property except during a time of invasion, as stipulated by law. Clearly there is the underlying basis of “privacy” that is the basis for this.