Ex-Mr Prop used to be a broker, now he manages money for rich widows. This AM he was yelling at the TV about the bailout and said that he had an idea to help mortgage payers stay in their home, provide a transparent way of valuing mortgages and give the Gov’t the ability to recoup all the cash it is going to pump into the system. I suggested he write it up. To my surprise he has done so.
A Mortgage Workout for the People (citizens) of the USA
This is a suggested plan to help every citizen of the USA whose current mortgage obligation exceeds the value of their primary home.
Principle no 1.: No household should pay a housing cost (mortgage payment – principal + Interest) that exceeds 30% of their gross income( before any deductions) as reported on their latest Federal Tax Return.
Principle no 2: The Federal Government will refinance through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac(buy existing mortgage and reissue a new mortgage to homeowner) existing homeowners who are under water with their mortgage on primary residences.
Principle no 3: New mortgages issued under this program, based on household ability to pay, will contain a provision that allows FNMA/FHLMC to recover on sale of secured property, 80% of the difference between the nominal value of the new mortgage issued and the then sale price of the property, until full amount of original refinanced mortgage is recovered. These agencies be allowed to charge a 0.5% fee in addition to 30yr treasury rate to cover cost of implementing program.
Principle no 4: FNMA/FHLMC be allowed to continue to repackage these new mortgages in CMO’s etc for resale through traditional resale channels.
FUNDING for this Program:
Congress will appropriate $700 billion as additional funding to enable FNMA/FHLMC to implement this program, in a separate segregated Federal Reserve administered fund that cannot be invaded by Congress. Chairman of Fed to be responsible for disbursement and oversight of the program through FNMA/FHLMC so co-ordination with Monetary policy will be maximized. Reporting to Congress on program status twice a year.
Benefits:
a. Current law-abiding households who are current on their mortgages and are seeing negative real value of their primary residence will be able to remain in their homes at affordable cost with a potential for some upside appreciation in the value of their property and a participation in the realization of that potential together with Govt on sale of their property.
b. Banks and other mortgage owners will have a value, real and ascertainable, assigned to each and every such distressed mortgage AND they will have, therefore a viable asset to sell to mortgage repackagers on Wall Street; this frees up capital to lend out on new mortgages under more appropriate terms (20% downpayment, 30% max housing cost : household income)
c. Government gets a real, visible path to recovery of money appropriated to this program, with interest.
d. Government will be helping citizens who most need help and restoring their confidence in The American Dream.
e. Government will restore confidence in the banking system worldwide by establishing a system of mortgage valuation that establishes a valuation methodology that could easily be cloned by private investors and capitalized on by the Financial Services industry worldwide.
f. Bankers and other lenders will now have a method of assessing the value of collateral offered interbank and lending between institutions currently effectively at a standstill can be reinvigorated.
g. No new government burocracy needed. FNMA/FHLMC become effective arms of the Federal Reserve who is charged with housing stability as a third mandate.
To do anything other than a clean fix aimed laserlike at the problem of home valuation is to charge the country headlong out of the current recession into a second Great Depression of unimagined magnitude and consequence.
EXAMPLE: John Smith Family owns a house with a current mortgage of $700,000. It is their primary residence (they live in it).Smith household income reported on 2007 Federal tax return was $125,000 gross before any deductions (ie NOT their taxable income). Current US 30 year Treasury notes have an interest rate of 4.125%. Principle no 1: 30% of $125,000 means Smith can afford to pay no more than $37,500 per year or $3,125 per month for Principal & Interest on the mortgage. Smith gets a new mortgage under this program with a 30 year term at 4.625% (4.125+0.5) for a nominal value of $600,000.(arrived at through DCF analysis based on what Smith can afford to pay). The Government gets the right to 80% of the difference between $600,000 and the original mortgage amount of $700,000 when the house is sold. Ten years from now Smith sells the house for $700,000He has paid about $2,900/month in interest for 10 yrs or $348,000 that has gone back into the US treasury.He has paid about $27,000 in principal. He owes $573,000 on the new government mortgage, and $100,000 difference between his old and new mortgage originally financed by the US govt.
His gross profit on the sale of his house is $127,000. He owes 80% of this or $101,600, under his mortgage contract so that the Government gets its $100,000 back and $1,600 more.
Smith has had his property written down to a reasonable value and his mortgage therefore becomes valuable in a resale. Banks can resell it or if they wish sell it to FNMA in the regular course of business. Smith has lived with a new lower payment and still got the tax deduction for interest. He has made a profit on the sale of the home.
Most importantly, Smith is not tempted to hand the keys of the house to the bank because he is upside down in the mortgage. The Bankruptcy process is completely avoided.
There is a very real potential for gain by the government. Interest on mortgages comes into the Fed Reserve balance sheet. Potential for profit exists on sale of properties. No new government agencies need to be established..
The banking system is unclogged and consumer confidence is restored.
Ex-Mr. Prop
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It’s Obama’s fault
ROFL
I love this.
What was needed all along.
Implement it in January, and make the toxic paper good.
LHP !
This plan will never work … it doesn’t give enough $$$ to the Uber-Rich …
yeah it needs pork
Best of all, I can follow the money and comprehend the logistics and the outcome. We can do this. It will work.
Oh, you. You’re just Hungry!
I’m teasing…got your Good Juice squeezed?
(I won’t tell you what I’ve made for dinner…I’ve got all my guys here to watch the
debatedebacle tonight.)wow lhp – that is so straightforward I didn’t have to read it twice
mad props to Ex-Prop
No, you can tell me what you made. Mr eats in front of me all the time and there is no problem. I have the juicer plugged in and will make some raspberry/grape/apple shots *g*
… it’s the American way … *g*
I thought we’d play middle class averger American voters tonight. Meatloaf. But, with lots of fresh veggies in it and baked potatos and fresh green beans.
Appetizers are red pepper hummus and whole wheat crackers.
Wow, Thanks to both LHP and ex-prop. What does he think about the bailout. Does he think that credit markets were really frozen?
*cough* … where’s the “middle class” Keg ?
yeah we’re porky people *g*
mr wobbs said he will be over right away LOL
and he will even bring the keg
Sorry for the food OT.
You might understand that dollar crisis and mortgage issues are upsetting to me right now.
((((( demi )))))
Better days are ahead … starting on Nov. 6th
Whole foods has great red pepper hummus. Enjoy. I ate earlier and decided to have a few drinks now. During the debate I think that I’ll enjoy my carrot cake and have some tea.
Tell him he is most definetly welcome, but it’s cooler at your pad…ha. S’Okay, we’re getting there. This winter when the waves are pounding you guys, you can come up for a fire in the fireplace and some famous split pea soup. :)
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No middle class beer here tonight, I bought F*sters.
Better to hand the keys to the bank and walk away from the house than to
maintain the house for the feds to benefit.
In a declining market, go and rent. The upside to renting is maintenance is not the tenants’ problem.
If the banks and government want to foreclose on 20%-40% of the homes in the US, go right ahead. 20-40% too high? It’s already at 9% and rising. No about that squatting (which is the next wave).
what petro said *g*
mr wants to know of he should bring dessert as well LOL apple pie maybe?
We do need to focus help on the people who are struggling to make their mortgages, but there are problems with the first principle: it rewards people who bought homes they never possibly could have afforded. Borrower A, who has a 30-year fixed rate loan and is paying 30% of gross income, keeps the same payments as Borrower B, who got an ARM with a teaser rate on a $1.5 million house that he has no hope of affording. But your principle says that they both pay the same rate. There are plenty of people in expensive real estate markets who chose to be house-poor thinking that real estate could only go up, and they were paying 40% or 50% of gross income.
I think we need to target people who are stuck with balloon payments on a house that has declined in value, who can’t refinance because their house is worth less than what they owe. The feds can take over these loans, and those folks could be given new loan terms, with affordable interest, and in exchange the government would get the appreciated value if the house goes back up.
That is one of the few things I miss …carrot cake hmmmmmm (as long as there is no pineapple involved)
It is nice here today and your right, come winter a fire will be right nice
Hope that you are right..
I fixed some mooseburger pizza with cactus sauce and old goat cheese
He likes Fosters. (he lived in Australia and then New Zealand for two years
707!
Here ya go … with frosting too
We have been asked up here in NoCal not to use our fireplaces due to pollution. Haven’t had a fire in years. I like them.
Kucinich up on CSPAN now
1. There is no equitable solution.
2. The consumer? IMO, you are on your own.
This is a good plan and what it does is it removes the profit (huge) from the mortgage business. And it will tend to reduce real estate bubbles. Good idea.
We got a Natural Gas Fireplace … more environmentally friendly and no mess to clean up …
Kudos to Ex- Mr. Prop … can someone ask Ian for his thoughts on this ?
When I went to Syndey, the locals were rather rude about Fosters, and drank VB (Victoria Bitter). Get him Newcastle Brown.
Good points but the plan does call for those who receive the aid to pay back the government when they sell. The government and the mortgage company both have liens on the property.
I need to think about that, too. The lines are there so it wouldn’t be much trouble. Thanks.
We live next to the ocean and life would not be any fun without ours. Besides when it is cold and rainy out, there is nothing better than curling up in front of the fireplace with a good book and a cup of tea
You are a sweetheart *g*
Tried Foster’s when I was in Australia – didn’t like it but I do like their wines.
OT. I recently purchased a house with gas logs. As long as the gas is off, can I shut the flue? I always had wood burning fireplaces.
To better days!
Thank goodness I’m busy writing these days…keeps me out of trouble – ha.
I’m just working on my bliss and feeding the males in this household. And, well praying.
Oh, the peasants seem upset. It is our patriotic duty to solve the crisis by recapitalizing the capitalists. Let us not place blame on the venture capitalists. Let them be free. Let them PARTY!
Actually we have that in the fridge along with Brahma (Brasil), Modelo (mexico), newcastle and guiness
Since we’re so OT … v*agra ad came up during the Baseball game and below it is a warning …
“does not protect against s*xually transmitted disease” …
My question is … How stupid is their client base ?
Well, that’s kinda interesting.
We can have a potluck here, yes?
The idea of converting problem mortgages to fixed rate long term ones is something we have discussed. This is one of the two critical arms of any solution to the financial crisis.
The write down in the face value of the mortgage is about 15% in the example and this seems very low to me. I think this would leave housing prices artificially high and reward writers and holders of bad paper. I favor a valuation that would return housing prices to nearer pre-bubble levels.
The resell of mortgages, passing them into the larger financial system is problematic. This brings up the other arm of a solution which is re-regulation of financial markets (such as a return to Glass-Steagall, limits on leveraging, and greater transparency in markets and market players such as Goldman Sachs and hedge funds) and sharp limits on derivative writing. Some resell of mortgage derived instruments is fine but nothing like the unrestricted derivative writing we have seen.
cool. so is ours.
I love the spirit of the plan. Folks tell me it’s not enough to stabilize the underwater properties, you also have to address the multiply-leveraged derivatives based on ‘em. And in the very very short term there’s the frozen interbank lending thing to fix too.
cmon you have to ask? We have people actually considering a McCain/Palin ticket. enought said.
You know you’re
marriedgetting old when your favorite thing to do in front of a fire is to read a book … *g*Check w/ manufacturers instructions but when you go to light check flue for birdnests, Former neighbors house went up in flames because he didn’t
yeah it needs pork
I’m not gonna even tell you what I just got at the grocery store… *g*
my mum always said I had an ‘old soul’.
I wrote pork not poke *g*
funny looseheadprop, when I first found out about the collapse I came up with a plan very similar.
anyway, I have one caveat that I think is important;
we cannot allow paulson be responsible for the recovery, we should be kicking this down the hall for the next president
even if the next president is mccain, I want either mccain or obama to own the recovery, sink or swim, this will insure they do their level best to make it swim, I do not want them to have the ability to say they were stuck with the bush recovery and I do not want bush able to say he is responsible for the recovery because he will surely blame the next president on it’s failure if it does not work
oh duh, I just got that LOL mr got it right away and just rolled his eyes at me. I guess I am old
I’m not an expert and I’d suggest that you contact one … our home does not have a chimney, it vents directly behind the fireplace.
Do you think some of us here are in the same (old) Soul Groups? Could be an interesting topic for a Diary. Like, when you and I have time to actually Go There!
TWEETS JUST FLAYED…BUSH/McCAIN
they are terrified of being tied to the BOOOOOOOOSH ECONOMY
*waves* to the mr
i agree
That would totally be interesting.
Poke Salad Annie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRF24LY5pvw
I think that’s safe. In addition to a wood stove, 3 wood burning fireplaces, I also have a gas log set in the flue where the oil burner vents (can’t have wood smoke & oil fumes in the same flue I have been told). I keep the damper closed except on the rare occassions when I turn on the gas logs.
According to my field of expertise, we’re all old souls … need a lot more cognac to
delve into that subject though … *g*
*waves back*
Joe LIEberman wants the bailout because it will be good for John McCain’s campaign:
http://www.latimes.com/busines…..1504.story
HA!
Dammit. Wrong link at #69. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2GqQdpFbsQ
((sadly)) not leaving you here all alone with those mean bashers tonight *g*
Wow, wish I had more time to read everything Mr. Prop said, but maybe this is part of the answer
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/0…..2008100116
more here
http://www.hud.gov/fha/home080730.cfm
My mom doesn’t believe in that but she swears that I have been here many times before *g*
The clowns with the multiply leveraged derivatives can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avGNTmPFlGw
didja see this
http://denver.bizjournals.com/…..ily40.html
thanks all. I don’t have the directions but the house was inspected so I’ll cross my fingers.
Didja get any Pie ? I have to wait until Saturday for fresh Apple Pie
{{{{{{MWAH}}}}}}}
You are not allowed to mention HoJo before, during or after meals :)
and lipstick!
Ooopsie. Sorry!!! Anyone barf? I’ve got the clean up crew ready to go. LOL
OT Brad Sherman on C-span saying his office receiving many calls from bank employees being paid to make calls
say it again
BUSH ECONOMY,bush economy BUSH ECONOMY………………….BOO!
rinse lather repeat
708!!!1
mr is making Palin bingo cards. He actually listed *crickets chirping* in one of the squares
Okay January needs to hurry up and get here already. I’m tired of this dude
I’m informed I was diagnosed as an “old soul” by an ancient Scotsman in the pediatrician’s waiting room.
Hey, I think maybe we’ve found the firepup missing link!
Luck would be the operant term here
I think reincarnation is frowned upon by western religions but there is enough evidence to prove that it does happen
LOL
708!!!!! 10 dismount
my ex went to Washington U
Here’s what a right wing ding bat who calls himself The Moderate (so Orwellian!) said on my blog today:
Do all right wingers live in LaLa Land? Apparently.
Joe, don’t get to close to Sarah if she gets mad!
No I hadn’t seen it but it isn’t surprising in light of the bad economy.
Tomorrow’s September unemployment report (8:30amET) has all the possibility of being an eyepopper. That will be the last unemployment report before the 11/4 election. The October data will be released 11/7.
Kay !
Hysterical. Is this also a drinking game? Bah hahahaha! Palin Bingo Drinking. Perfect.
I walked into my local Democratic Headquarters tonight to chit chat before I went home and I asked the women in there if they were watching the debate tonight. All of said pretty much in unison, “Yes we are! We got booze too!”. I said, “Good gawd girls! Get ahold of yourselves please!”. LOL
Petro! ;-)
I believe it as I feel my connection to people, things, etc. is way too strong to have been established in just this lifetime
in Fl…..hundreds of thousands behind 3 months in utility bills……….oy..of course they wont freeze to death
Released on a friday Hummmmmmmmm
yeah, drinking is involved. some other folks from the brit school are coming by to watch the debate (none can vote LOL)
Shouldn’t that be … Bimbo Bingo Binge
must go get my red wine pommegranite key lime spritzer…”g”
hahahahahahahahaha
If you ever get into meditation, we should correspond regularly … you could have very interesting insights …
LOL KO just started his show tonight pointing out that Sarah Palin has lost Elizabeth Hasselhoff! The ding dong of daytime sees the ding dong of Alaska as a moron. Interesting. I would have guessed Elizabeth wouldn’t have had the brains to see through Palin. Huh. Maybe ding bats really do have synapse activity going on in their brains…
If we do it your hand, we put huge overhang in the housing market, and have no one to buy it. That harms everyone involved in the housing markets, from developers with marginally good developments to lenders to the furniture stores.
Bah hahahahahahahahahaha! That would be a great sign on election night outside a home that is having an election party!
really? I want to get into that. i have been told that i have semi closed and blocked chakras
The unemployment reports have been released on the first Friday of the following month (unless the 12th of the month in question has some technical glitch, which sometimes happens in February) since time out of mind. Don’t go getting all consprisyish about it.
There is the short-term and the longer-term. In the short-term the financial firms holding toxic assets really could use better capitalization. But, there’s no reason we should just hand them cash. It should have some very large strings attached (preferred stock with warrants or somesuch). For the longer-term solving the mortgage valuation issue is crucial. But, it’s labor intensive and will take some time.
Of course, that’s just the financial markets aspect of the problem and it’s all Congress and the business people seem to want to touch. The human aspect of people losing their homes doesn’t seem to enter their minds.
Fortunately, the longer-term solution of fixing the mortgages is probably just what’s needed to help people stay in their homes. So, fixing them really helps everybody. How you do it, as this blog post suggests, shouldn’t be all that hard — once you realize it is important to do. The financial people on Wall Street seem blind to this point since all they see is paper and numbers.
I think House Democrats understand the real economy and people’s lives is the fundamental which has to be gotten right. At least I see signs of it.
I think the idea is to make sure we keep people in their houses. Assuming the homeowner has a job, this will do it, an permit a reasonable standard of living, perhaps even enabling the homeowner to make payments on other debt.
Why this will never happen:
Wipes out the holders of the Mortgage backed secuirties by paying off the underlying mortgages.
They bought these assets for the money stream. Paying off the mortgages dries up the money stream.
The money stream is why people are arguing that the shitpile is worth something more than anyone is willing to pay right now.
I am still against the bailout of wall street btw.
Am tickler filing this notion. You have my FB and I have yours. Something to consider for the future?
absolutely *g*
Don’t bother, I know people who’ve been practicing/teaching meditation for decades and they have semi closed and blocked chakras … *g*
Will check with you before we write that one!
good to know. You and I should chat about how I would go about meditating and such
Looking forward to it …
you would be good imo
When I get done setting up my business loan, I’m gonna take a trip out to California to start marketing my course.
I will personally teach you a couple of simple and powerful meditations if you like.
Yasm
I don’t personally believe in it, but one of my favorite movies of all time, Patton, includes a neat scene where Patton tells his driver to turn off the road to go to the battlefield. Someone says the battlefield is up ahead, but Patton says no it’s over that way. They go where he says and he gives a great speech about having been there before in a prior life. It’s pretty neat. Love that WWII movie, right along with Casablanca.
woohoo!!!! cool!
Sadlyyes !
What’s gonna be the magic word tonight for shooters ?
thanks.
New post up on FDL.
Cali is the perfect place to market. Lots of open minded folks here that are at least willing to consider alternatives (one of the reasons I love it here)
Casablanca is my one of fav and also every movie Gregory Peck ever made …
There is tons of evidence re. reincarnation … stories by people who also never believed in it …
Buying a mortgage for less and then rewriting it would not change this. People could still be kept in their homes.
Makes me wonder if they have to do yoga in India to get their Economics degree. short joke = Economy’s in trouble: calling Dr. Bombay, calling Dr. Bombay! I can hear it now when everything goes bad Dr. Bombay just says, everybody has to take a haircut, til you’re bald and a yogi. Heh
middle class imo
and howdy
Mine is every time she tears up … to make Biden/Ifill look like bullies …
Did you know that we in Los Angeles call this place La La Land?
I hope you aren’t referring to Here.
but barracuddas dont cry……”g”
Do right wing knuckle draggers live there?
Why, do you need me to ship some to your town?