10:31 Palin: the MSM has been filtering me. She just pulled out Cindy’s I’ve always been proud line. Does whoever prepped her really think anyone believes that she actually says "I shall do the same"? (Julia)
10:30 He just totally wrongfooted her on questioning the motives of opponents. Guess that sort of short-circuits the answer she had planned. She’s back on diversity. Oh, and infastucture. (Julia)
10:29 Coming to the close, she still seems out of her depth next to Biden. But no train wreck for her. En result: dynamic of the race remains unchanged, as expected. She’s piling on the bitter on the press to excuse her recent tran wrecks. (Pach)
10:29 She keeps harping on how she hired people from both parties. Somehow I’m not buying it. (Eli)
10:27 Biden saying he’s respected because ever since his first term, he’s never questioned anyone’s motives, just their judgment. (Eli)
10:23 He just out heart-tugged her with the single parent, child who’s not going to make it comment. She’s screwed. She’s babbling about mavericity. Wow. Trainwreck. Also, Giuliani, Romney, McCain and Palin are diversely partisan? Dude. (Julia)
10:23 Biden: McCain hasn’t been a maverick on anythhing that mattered. — list a dozen items where he’s failed. Great answer. Strongest of the night. (Scarecrow)
10:21 OK, Palin has jumped the shark on the Maverick thing. (Blue Texan)
10:21 I think I love Joe Biden right now. That moment of getting choked up about his kids and family accident, and what Americans are facing today? Gut wrenching. And Palin? She’s babbling after it…just babbling. (Christy)
10:21 Most human moment of the night, Biden talking about his child’s almost death. I bet that went over well. (Pach)
10:11 Wow, she just used "There you go again."
10:12 Is it just me, or is it bad form to wink in the middle of a political debate?
10:12 Uh-oh, Palin’s complete-sentence machine is breaking down. I guess no-one prepped her for education questions.
10:13 No, I totally know what a vice president does! Really! And they should have more power and do stuff with the Senate!
10:15 Biden giving a very clear response to the question of what he would do as vice president – basically spearhead legislation and generally be in the room and give counsel. Sounds kinda like a bench coach in baseball.
10:16 Palin babbling incoherently about what kind of authority she would have as VP. She talked in circles and I have no idea what she just said, and I’m sure she doesn’t either.
10:17 Biden calls Cheney’s Fourth Branch concept "bizarre."
10:18 Palin says she’s tied in to the heartland of America because she’s totally been there with struggling Americans. Says that unapologetic exceptionalism is a good thing.
10:20 Biden pointing to his record of accomplishment, and that he knows what it’s like to be a financially struggling single parent. Choking up a little talking about his kids and not knowing whether they’re going to make it.
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No progress under Rs – which are you, Sarah?
yes! JOE KILLS THE MAVERICK MEME!
Anyone who’s ever almost lost a child really has to believe that Biden ‘gets’ it.
You want authenticity?
He just showed it.
Biden kicking butt right now!
Go Joe, go Joe… go about what matters… signed, and now sealed!
Jeebus … Biden slaying the “Maverick” myth … Go Joe Go !
”Maverick he is not.” Bar applauds.
Please, spare us, Sarah. The Maverick thing is way old. How many houses to you have? Go Joe!
John McCain is no maverick. I really though Joe was going to call bullshit. You could tell he really wanted to.
“Maverick he is not!” JB
Eli !
Digg it!
BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOVE THE PICTURE……………AGAIN!
i think the word maverick needs to be taking out of the dictionary
And by the way, I’m on to my third glass of wine, because of this debate.
Palin totally didn’t get the question about “traditional wisdom” and “your Achilles heel.” [Perhaps she’s never heard of Achilles or his heel?] Went off babbling incoherently.
Biden, to his credit, answered the question, even though it required admitting his “faults.” Very genuine.
CNN-meter went into the shitter when Caribou Barbie switched to the “McCain’s a maverick” meme.
I think John is doing a better job at refuting Palin than Barack was against McCain.
And wow, what a moment before when he choked up.
I bet after the debate is over, Sarah will walk over to Joe and kick him in the shins.
Great answer on judges, Joe. “The ideology of that judge makes a big difference. That’s why I led the fight against Judge Bork.” BIDEN FTW
This is Joe! … glad he could come tonight.
Salud!
”Maverick he is not.” Bar applauds.
Please keep reporting.
I’m genuinely interested in the bar review.
(you know what I mean)
He’s such a great man.
The Lady protest too much way way too much
Three beers deep here.
“Something I quasi-caved in, if you will…” What?
And smile broadly while doing so!
OOOOH, zero base budget!
I’m perfect! And PERKY!
OK, Palin has jumped the shark on the Maverick thing. (Blue Texan)
That – and the kitchen table – that thing is going out with the trash tomorrow morning. I have a breakfast bar /s
Debt is a tax Sarah you raised taxes!
COMPROMISING IS WORKING TOGETHER MA’AM
Palin: On major things never had to change her position
I can’t even see the red on the CNN bar. LOL
did she use “progress” as an active verb?
as in we will progress this bill or some crap?
Go Biden! Love the talk about the middle class. “There you go again, Joe” Sorry that one’s already old, Sarah. It’s just not that funny anymore.
SP conflates changing one’s mind (which is what the question was) with ‘caving’. What a teeny tiny mind.
Palin, “up there in Alaska” they’ve compromised.
Well, yeah, when your state is swimming in oil money, it’s a lot easier than in other places.
And then flick her head/hair around like Marsha Blackburn does!
I’m sure the American people are very, very happy that they’ve learned so much about Alaska tonight.
John McShame as a bipartisan! Yeah, that’ll happen!
Biden smashes the McCain Maverick brand
There were times as mayor…
Damn, Gwen isn’t going to ask SP how long ago the dinosaurs lived.
Please. If anyone understood that whole “zero base budget” answer…
uh oh, bipartisanship. you mean bending over for gop or like really working together in good faith?
“up there in Alaska”
OH! A real bar. I thought maybe ya meant ‘Barbara.’
More like she jumped the snark on it.
If she and Todd has their way, they would make Alaska into the next Saudi Arabia…an oil rich nation run by forking royal assholes.
Which out of the grand total of 2 budgets did you do that Sarah?
she is bush. she’s never made mistake.
wow, great statement on not questioning motives
Joe has won this thing handily.
But did Sarah lose badly enough? Her answers were crap, but she didn’t fall apart.
So has Joe met expectations?
I think Gwen did well tonight. I’m sure the neocons will bitch anyways.
Don’t question motive question their judgment. HOME RUN.
sarah: dems, gop, independents, AIP.
Sarah Palin the bane of all AA members watching the debate
Carter started that. Bet Palin doesn’t know that!
Sorry, I’m on time delay here (had to pause to grab supper.) I’m up to the description of the VP’s role.
Can she please quit with the ALSO?
She better be careful — they warned her she’d lose the transmitter that way!
Anyone else thinking Fritz Lang’s Metropolis?
Was that McCain’s Heart Monitor ?
Uh oh! She paused on “supports” because Karl Rove paused!
wtf? he talks about bi-partisan ship in the govt and she talks about it in her family?
Biden laid back on the front, and went for the close. Well done!
Palin’s syntax makes me dizzy.
And I am really worried about the Republican spin on Gwen.
Exceeded rather handily IMHO.
Bush on extreme estrogen.
THere she goes again. Lying on the choices on Nov 4
Interesting that gay marriage came up but not abortion or a woman’s right to choose.
How does Palin change the tone? Can you say christofacism…
slams the media
bashing the media?!?!?!
humble humble such an honor. blech.
uh oh MSM slam from sarah.
Joe won by a narrow margin because idiots can vote in this poll.
AGH!!! Damn but she is a lying skank!!
the weaseling on ideology as a factor in choosing staff makes me want to hurl!!!
build infrastructure and reign in spending
and saying no to energy independence
huh?
I think it will be similar to the last debate. Joe didn’t wipe the floor with her, but it will sink in just how godawful she is over the next 24-48 hours.
“I like these opportunities to answer these tough questions…” BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Filter of the MSM! Katie, are your ears burning?
You’re not fooling anyone, SP.
The night would have been complete if it fell out of her ear and onto the podium in front of her or if the wire doing’d out from her hair.
When you spend taxes to build or repair necessary infrastructure, that creates jobs which in turn creates more revenues! She’s nuts!
Palin: talking more about her vast experience of being Governor of Alaska for less than 2 years. If only FDR, Lincoln, and Washington had had her experience think what the country would be like. *shudder*
Sarah really got in GW’s face and even said she will answers want she wants
Oopsie. Wrong monitor I was looking at. LOL
jingoism time
Good God, she’s just one big cliche!
OMG, she dredges up Reagan
She’s trying to blame the media for her verbal pratfalls, past and future.
THANK YOU JOE BIDEN for giving us BOTH the most poignant moment of the night AND the soundbite of the night within about 3 minutes of one another. Biden wins in a waltz and this makes me SO HAPPY!
I disagree – she tried to be so fair that she allowed Palin to babble incoherently without actually answering a single question substantively.
Oh good christ, now SHE’s tearing up?
This is her closing beauty pageant speech.
our precious national security freedoms! and our precious fluids!
Wow, she fell apart.
Heh! She likes to answer the questions w/o the MSM filter. She ain’t answered the question she was asked yet!
Rayne !
She come off as a dummy spouting talking points and an over confident snot who blathers about things she knows nothing about.
Is it over yet?
DIRECTOR’S MESSAGE – DIRECTOR’S MESSAGE – DIRECTOR’S MESSAGE
fight fight fight fight maverick maverick freedom freedom (unless you’re gay)
fight fight fight
sh’e too bellicose for average folks
heh. wtf was that?
memorizin’ reagan
jinx!
Sunset years? It’s out great=great-great grandchildren who will never recover from the Bush Regime years!
Palin: We will fight for change. We won’t tell you what that means, but we will fight for it.
good one — skank
Should have asked her about the dinosaur bones!
That’s my queue … L’chaim !
Absolutely – her debating style is Bush on steroids.
big pandering on the gay marriage thing this past week, what with the McCain backpedaling with the Washington Blade, don’t you think? do their numbers tell them to pander to gays but not to women?
Ronnie Raygun again. He was the beginning of the end of the middle class! Starting with breaking unions! And Tax breaks for the rich and shoving the burden to the middle class!
Good point, but then again, Gwen was probably thinking, “WTF” and didn’t bother asking her to be “clearer”.
Biden finishes up strong and hopeful and positive but still drawing sharp contrasts.
She’s rattling off one cliche after another, like the grand finale at a fireworks show
LOLOL!
Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the WAR room!
hey media comes with the territory girly girl. as truman said, if you can’t stand the heat
go back to Alaska!!
I like the way you think!!!
Maybe it’ll happen yet? It’d be priceless, for the ages.
Alaska has fewer people than the Manhattan.
I’m switching off the tv. The fellas are setting up to play cards
i am waiting for gwen to ask her about dinosaurs
She’s not the caribou Barbie, she’s the caribou harpie.
We’re ready!
L’chaim right back atcha.
I bet she has pictures of past relatives with the dinosaur bones supplied to her by her snake-handling-tongue-speaking church members.
Done!
or estrogen
maverick maverick cut taxes maverick fight maverick reform freedom freedom maverick john mccain maverick fight cut taxes reform maverick john mccain
harrykeynsham
Balloon Juice having trouble?
Biden scorecard: Finding way to bring up judge issue very good. Mentioning Mike Mansfield who retired before I could vote iffy.
Palin scorecard: Better than Admiral Stockdale. However fairly hopeless.
Bravo Joe !
Go JOE! Trashing Cheney about unitary executive and the role in the Constitution.
(yes, I’m delurking for this train wreck)
Middle Class Joe, pitching a middle class agenda, to build a stronger america. What are those middle class values? honesty, hard work, apply yourself, hard work pays off, Biden and Obama will re-level the playing field.field.
Will she wipe that smirk off her face while Biden is closing, for Pete’s sake!
I would have screamed with laughter had that happened!
And, btw, I thought Gwen did an outstanding job!
Switching to MSNBC.
whoa! is she relieved this is over!!
I’m not a big fan of Biden but in terms of performance in this debate he was real while Palin was an empty vessel.
Oh thank gawd, it’s over.
she suuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked
Gawd, she can’t shut up!
with her grandmother in the back round with an AK-47
Couric saying that Palin didn’t embarass herself. What debate was she watching?
Aaaaand here comes the spin!
She looks & sounds soooo relieved.
Palin didn’t introduce her family to the negro
Gwen Ifil is not as non-partisan as you might believe.
Go over to Daily Howler, type in “Ifil” and look what pops up. Think Condy Rice……
Ah, here comes the baby prop!
She’s a loser and
“Bless your heart” = go F&*k your self
You (and I) wish!
Filler. With the children being paraded on stage.
I love it. 50 people come to the stage for Sarah and these are the cousins, the children, the…ah hell…no one knows who is related to who at this point!
David Gregory bobbleheading now
She held up well. We won.
new thread
SENATOR Palin, David Gregory?
God, you simpering monkey.
Oh wow, I need to embroider that one on a pillow!!
Does an excess of estrogen make you talk faster? /s
Ooooh. Good. Palin’s family has been outmatched by Biden’s clan.
Joe’s measured answers were just right, not too short, not too long. Way to go, Joe! You did well!
Oh yuk, it’s David Gregory. I feel sullied. But here comes Tweety!
Disagree. Don’t like what she said, but she way outperformed expectations.
Leaving Gwen in was going to be a successful ploy either way for the right.
I hope the independents realize Biden kicked Palin’s ass.
Joe Biden = class act.
Of course David Brooks is saying that she stood toe to toe with Biden. He’s almost salivating.
thank the cosmos for C-SPAN. no talking head morons at the moment…
Well, I don’t think she through zingers at Palin and softball questions for Joe. To me she seemed reasonable in her moderating tonight. Letting Palin babble on was a good move.
“Sarah Palin was every bit Joe Biden’s equal” – David Brooks
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
“Republicans are breathing a whole lot easier. Democrats are sorry she didn’t implode” – Mark Shields
tweety picking up quickly on the fourth branch and msm slam.
dem folks fuck like rabbits, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth — and all
Yes yes you’re gonna lose this, girl
Yes yes you’re gonna lose this, girl
Yes yes you’re gonna lose, this, girl.
That’s what I suspect. As people digest it all. What was actually said, what was emptiness.
Final thought, McLame better get a food taster!
NBC saying Biden weak early closed strong. Palin good standin for McCain.
Palin is so clearly unqualified. It is just bizarre hearing the media treat her seriously.
That skunk Gregory said something about Keith O, but I missed it –
will he be on soon? I can’t stand David Gregory!
Ifill is a closet Republican. She loves to go shoe shopping with Condi.
Chris Matthews is just nailing her.
Um, no. Not in that way.
And David Gregory is being a tool.
Indeed.
The question is going to be what the media narrative is going to be – I am hopeful that Palin’s incessant nattering will work subconciously on the indys.
Chris Matthews is shaping the issues about her well.
I usually don’t like Ifil, but tonight I thought she was excellent.
NO.
Her yammering has nothing to do with estrogen.
tweety not a fan of palin.
yes cspan is all i can handle anymore. now on pbs and they are majorly full of crap
Yes, Mansfield retired when I was six. The year I was 18, he got the Medal of Freedom.
Baseball! Hooray!
Sarah’s freefall ends today, and she gets to spend the next month in the loving arms of wingnuts.
Matbe but did she ever really answer the question posed to her?? Nope she kept going to what she wanted to say!!
she handed the baby to the 7 year-old and let her go down the stairs with him!
David Gregory aka Karl Rove’s dancing partner.
That’s what I was referring to above with the Daily Howler.
Agreed.
What I can’t tolerate about C-Span is the callers on the Gooper line! Makes my b.p. go through the roof.
Hey, who’s that good looking pregnant teenager on the stage?
Maybe I should never have quit drinking. I had to turn off the TV long ago.
womanon cnbc saying they didn’t hear one thing from gov palin that would be different from bush.
I know
Maybe debating style = Bush on meth?
“I saw Satan dancing with delight…”
At nytimes.com feed, they still show the location; Biden taking his granddaughters over to introduce them to Gwen ifill. Very sweet moment. He’s a class act — working class with class.
David Gregory is being a tool. ALWAYS.
Matthews is hammering her for the ratings.
Tweety; So repetitive, so robotic on repetition of points I thought I was watching a spelling bee.
LOL
ticker tape on cnbc says something about palin abusing her power in troopergate thingy.
OMG good timing!
And getting Prop. 13 passed in CA that decimated their public schools and universities [why we have such imbeciles there now].
And encouraging greed.
And pooh-poohing the idea of our all being in this together [and thus taxes being necessary for things like schools, roads]
The most insufferable part of this whole process is listening to the egomanical pundits chime in with their inanities. When will America be done with these fools?
i just mute the crazes when they get too extreme. But it also serves to remind me that there are some serious wingnuts out there.
YAWN!
oh good lord, cnn has a gagillion talking heads debriefing on the debate
Bulls-eye.
HA! Pat Buchannan tooling big time.
Rachel M:
SP = “Cartoonish”
JB choking up and she responded with a non-response.
Good points, and D Gregory is a tool.
P Buchanan is in love with Sarah.
Buchanan “Sarah Palin was sensational tonight.”
The fascist has been heard from now.
Maddow – gimmicky folksy
Pat Buchanan – sensational, she wiped the floor with Biden.
Everyone is still talking about Palin!
I live in Arizona, so unfortunately I can never forget it.
Buchanan calls Palin most interesting, “attractive” (and I quote) of all 4 debaters so far.
Where is his money coming from?
She never said anything of real substance. Half of it was rambling. A written transcript would show that, not a continuity of thought anywhere.
“Picayune,” says Buchanan (to expect Palin to be accurate)!
Rachel: “Boring & right vs. exciting and wrong, is that our choice this year?”
Oh f*ck, Buchanan thought Maddow’s point about Palin’s expansion of Veep powers is picayune?
Jeebus. Get the hook and get him out of there.
my sincere condolences. i onced lived out there, many moons ago. Tucson and flagstaff early 70s
Buchanan will always stick up for the Republican. That’s his job.
It’s a shame he means what he says, though.
Who is the Lingel she referred to in her list of bipartisan people supporting McCain—Lieberman, Romney, Guiliani, and Lingel. I’m lost.
Lingle is the Republican governor of Hawaii. Lusting to be Senator in 2 years when Inouye presumably retires. She’s a total tool. Don’t know how she ever got elected here.
Buchanan and Gregory both have to go. Gregory lost ALL credibility with his dance number with Karl Rove. The man has no principles only a lurid obssession for the powerful.
Everyone on this blog heard nothing but rambling and bromides from the caribou harpie but the high priced pundits and prognasticators actually take her seriously.