(It’s still not a girlie image, thanks to Swopa.)
9:51: JB just had a brilliant response: he attacked Palin’s error–suggesting that Ahmedinejad was in charge of the security apparatus–by correcting McCain. It was a great way to tell her she’s dead wrong and unfortunate for her, parroting McCain’s stupid talking points.
9:52: SP We will never allow a second holocaust. Building our embassy in Jerusalem. [Yup. AIPAC has had some quality time with her.]
9:53: JB No one in the US Senate has been a better friend of Israel than Joe Biden. I would never have joined this ticket if I wasn’t sure that Obama supported Israel. This Administration’s policy has been an abject failure. Elections: we said big mistake. Hamas would win. Hamas won. The fact of the matter is the policy of this administration has been an abject failure. The only thing on the march is Iran. We will change this policy with thoughtful real live diplomacy.
9:54: SP No, this Administration’s policy is not an abject failure. There will be a time when it is time to stop looking back. There’s just too much time looking backward to think you’re going forward.
[Biden needs to smile here.]
9:55 JB Past is prologue. How is John McCain’s policy going to be different than George Bush’s? We will make significant change so once again we’re respected in the world.
9:56 GI Is there a trigger for use of nuclear weapons?
9:58 SP Sanctions on Kim Jong Il. Time for a surge in Afghanistan. [Um, I guess she missed Mackiernan today.]
9:58 JB Facts matter. Our commanding General in Afghanistan said today surge principle in Iraq will not work in Afghanistan. He said we need more troops. We need government building. We have spent more money in three weeks in combat in Iraq than the entirety in the last 7 years in Afghanistan. With regards to arms control and weapons. Require a nuclear arms control regime. McCain voted against test ban treaty that every other Republican has supported. Let me put it another way. Barack Obama, reached across the aisle, put together piece of legislation that was serious and real. Of the two I named, John McCain has been opposed.
9:59 Palin just flat out lies – can’t help herself. (Siun)
10:00 [SP got the name of the general wrong--named him McClellan.] Surge can work in Afghanistan. Leaders advising George Bush have not said any different.
10:01: GI You’ve been an interventionist. Does the American public have the stomach for it?
10:02: JB The American public has the stomach for success. I was the first to suggest putting troops in. John McCain opposed it at first.
[Apparently that reference to the non-surge in Afghanistan is our own Spencer's scoop. Go Spencer!!]
10:03 JB We can take a stand in Darfur if we take a hard line. Stop this genocide.
10:03: She’s ridiculing Biden, with that gosh darn, we outside D.C. like straight talk BS. (Scarecrow)
10:03: SP So obvious that I’m an outsider, you voted for the war, and now you’re saying you’re against it. It was a war resolution. You had supported John McCain’s strategy until this race. We called for divestment in Sudan. That legislation hasn’t passed yet. All of us should do all we can to end those atrocities.
10:05: GI Is there a line that should be drawn?
10:05: JB Absolutely. First, do we have the capacity. John McCain’s strategy in this war–not just to go, but the conduct in this war, has been wrong from the outset.
10:06: SP You can say what you want to say, but I beg to disagree with you. John McCain who knows how to win a war. He will know who to implement the strategies. He’ll know how to win a war.
10:07: GI Heartbelt away. You disagree from your principles. How would it be different from an Obama Administration?
10:08: JB I would carry out Obama’s policies. [talks about middle class policies] A foreign policy that ends this war in Iraq. Get and capture or kill bin Laden. Eliminate AQ. Engage our allies. Reject Bush doctrine. [Ha!! What's that Sarah???] Most important election since 1932. I would follow through–I agree with every major issue he has suggested.
10:09: SP As for disagreeing.We don’t agree on everything. I’m going to keep pushing him on ANWR. I would continue the good work he is committed to.




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More supply-side horseshit!
I spend a lot of time in Home Depot too. And my ex-gf’s family is from Scranton. Nicer place than you’d think!
There you go again – Sarah channeling Raygun!!
shit she is ########## condescending, god bless her.
A million cliches at once! “Her reward is in heaven, right?” WTF!
Say it ain’t so, Joe.
Note to the bimbo: Don’t say “your wife’s reward is in heaven” to a man whose first wife is in heaven.
Love the picture!
Mz Harper Valley P.T.A.
Sarah wants to bring some of that good old meth-addled Wasilla wisdom to Warshington.
I hate her.
(and I meant to to misspell Washington)
McCain would be better off dropping Palin and putting Tina Fey on the ticket. McCain out of Michigan, woohoo!!!
SP
“we need flexibility in no child left behind”
no crony left behind.
She is so full of horse shit it’s unreal.
Awww, don’t be mean to GEORGE BUSH PLEASE! You’re making Sarah & Johnny very made, Joe! They love him, his illegal occupations, his tax cuts for the rich, and his Wall Street bailout!
((((( Marcy Eli )))))
Has SP ever heard of a “pause” ?
I’m hating Gwen at this moment.
The clock sure hit midnight tonight for Sarah Palin
she is toooooooooo dumb to live
MsBull…winkle continues to spew memorized Repug taking points.
Possibly some Wasilla meth in her moose tea?
So will the spinners just talk about how she exceeded expectations or actually talk about substance?
Silly question, I know.
I hope Joe says, “I’d like to say ‘hi’ to Trig who is going to have a horrible life if Grammy gets in the White House!”.
Don’t expect a Republican to have any sensitivity.
Wotta creepy rattly nervous laugh.
the little girl channeled ronald reagan
“thurrr u go agiin joe, repeating whut ya sehd before, now
It sure did, Elliott. Cracked the damn slipper on the fence.
MORE authority to the vice president?
Quick question — how do you guys tolerate watching this? It sounds unbearable even w/o having to hear her screech.
LOL !!!
VP doesn’t preside over the Senate. FAIL.
I’ll say, now trying to claim her ignorance of what the Vice President does was just her attempt at a lame joke.
talking through her teeth when saying she’ll take the VP job seriously. very barracuda.
Ms. Six Colleges just commented on lax education?
Sarah is talking to fast not good
“John McCain tapped me…” LOL
She wants more authority for the V.P.
oh good christ.
Biden, #1 – defend and protect the constitution“
She laughs like Sponge Bob
EPU’d from previous thread – Kagro X at Kos was scarily prescient with this post: Palin = Word Salad.
EPU’ed again
Palin keeps talking about creating jobs. Tomorrow the job numbers come out and they will show that job creation under Bush has fallen below 5 million vs. 22,760,000 in Clinton’s 8 years.
“Reform of government overall” terrifies me.
When caribou Barbie was talking about a McClellean administration, doesn’t she know that General McClellan has been dead for over 100 years?
She knows the subject better than anyone.
If she was in a bar with Todd and Joe walked in, she and Todd would have slit Joe’s throat by now. I’m serious. She has that in your face hate that gets men killed all over this country in protecting the pretty woman who has a big mouth.
pulease defend and protect the constitution
Ladies and Gentlemen, we are watching the Terri Schiavo show.
Excellent description !
I’m telling ya Petro! It’s the truth! LOL
she really turns the folksy on and off. calculating.
When people hear how she talks on and on — most people have gone to school with or worked with someone who just COULDN’T SHUT UP.
I think they’re reminded of how annoying that is.
please…defend and protect the constitution
oh, garsh! Marge Gunderson for VP!
Oh I get it! It’s a PUZZLE! Gee, what Spunky Fun™!“
My wife said the same thing – she needs to take control of this thing and let Ms. Talking Points actually answer a question rather than run out the clock.
This is George Bush debating style on steroids.
blizzard of words.
Please make her go away now.
*slapping my forehead*
I’m kinda thinking she outperformed expectations, she’s sure happy with herself
Which branch is the vice presidency? “Much flexibility.” WTF is she talking about?
squid ink on the 4th branch.
Unitary Executive question.
She’s for it.
“there”
Palin asked about the Barnacle branch. Dodges.
She just killed herself. Fourth Branch.
Unitary VP?!
Go Gwen! Constitution!
why is she reading notes?
Is she changing the Constitution right before our eyes?
yeah in voice only, Marge was clever enough to solve the case
Marge Gunderson for VP
“We will do what is best for the American people” translation, Americans bend over and get ready for it.
It’s like she’s going to do a George Jetson with ##########. she keeps running and running.
She agrees with Cheney’s view of the VP. Jeebus!
it doesnt matter
it is palaber
EPIC FAIL!!!
yes, she is irritating. the kind of person who when you are frustrated and trying to solve a beaucratic problem sez” I’m sorry you feel that way, but those are the rules.”
Did she just say ‘gas owner’? LOL! What the hell. That’s it. I’m getting drunk tonight.
Cheney is a hit for JOE!
She’s pleased with herself, for sure.
But I think she won’t like the headlines tomorrow.
“Most dangerous Vice President we’ve ever had.” Bar cheers WAAAAAAY loud.
What the fuck was that?
Make her repeat it. Jeezus
Biden… Cheney has been the most dangerous VP in the history of America.
Palin knows nothing about the Constitution’s description of the VP’s role. She’s just blathering. Will Gwen or Joe call her on it. Palin a business executive? Puhleeze.
Joe, VP Cheney the most dangerous VP in American history. Thank you.
Cheney IS the MOST DANGEROUS VP eveah!!
You’re surprised?
another HOME RUN
JOE totally killed her the VP thing
Nice. The constitution is NOT flexible vis a vis the VP.
Joe schooling Sarah on the Constitution.
I agree … Gwen should be telling her to answer the question, not just pose the questions …
There’s a Constitution? my handlers didn’t prep me for that.
She kinda wandered off the cliff on that last answer on VP job and how being mayor and gov helps
Yup.
She dives headlong into a sentence, no matter how murky the deep end is.
Cheney eats kittens…I know this because I have a bumper sticker that says so.
YES! JB PEAKING with women on 4th branch attack!
There may yet be hope for the Republic.
SHE IS NOT MOVING HER LIPS ANYMORE
JB should have turned to SP and said:
“And Governor Palin should understand it.”
(re: Article I)
Gwen is directing traffic. :-(
he’s attacking cheney very nice, this is good stuff
Well, at least surprised she would admit it out loud.
Doesn’t know what Achilles heel meant…wrong answer.
LOL Also, in Alaska they have a parliament. Did you know that? No? Ask Sarah.
Palin didn’t have health insurance?
she doesn’t know what achilles heel means?
she is a sicko
Sarah – “Word Salad.”
“Thank you.”
I have to go throw up. be right back.
Honestly I am getting a serious headache because she just talks and talks and it makes no sense to anyone with a little bit of knowledge.
Seriously though, read the entire post when you get a chance. It is really, really on point and eerily predicted her debating style.
Did she just say ‘gas owners’ again? LOL
I’m a mom too. I have special needs child. I have kids going to college next year!
I don’t like you Sarah! I DON’t share your world view in psycho land.
When is McCain gonna jump on stage and do a Hoe Down with that purdy gal frum Alaska …
Pass me a beer please.
She is kinda all over the place!
Palin, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
what was the question?
Channeling Raygun again shining city on a hill. Really wants those fundies!!
Ms. Palin is substituting energy for experience and judgment. Will Joe be able to pierce her PTA pertness and phrases? That’s all she’s got Joe, pierce that balloon and let it fall.
Dick Cheney in a dress! Only much dumber.
Her throat.
Shorter MsBull…winkle: “Repeat memorized talking points ad nauseum.
Did I mention over and over and over again?
what is she saying………….oy
DIGG IT PUPS!!
I had a desk near a sec’y in an engineering dept once, where I thought I was going to strangle her if she didn’t just once, for a little bit, SHUT THE FUCK UP.
And then I left that place to get married to Mr. K8 and move ‘cross country, thank God. I would have surely been arrested for assault.
I take it back. She didn’t understand about the Barnale branch.
Now Palin being an executive. Alaska has less than a million people and has its government paid for by oil royalties. And she is under investigation for abuse of her role. What experience?
i think they should ask her polices on Alaska’s Meth pronblum
Most of the people who support her don’t either. This is why she’s so popular with the 24 IQ Group.
Remember that eagle in the Muppet Show? Sarah P could play his sidekick!
Maybe she was referring to Scottie McClellan as commander.
Shorter SP: Now darnit, I know raising kids is hard in the heartland of America, and so when I’m VP that dusty ol’ Constitution’l just have to go!
“I’m not gonna change… Place my record and Barack’s record against John McCain’s record.”
Coming right up! *zipping one down the bar*
It’s like a Vice Presidential candidate is debating someone who’s ordering a strawberry milkshake.
Wow this is moving.
God bless you
Sarah Palin: America’s Emetic.
She’s an expert on Russia, not Greek Literature … /s
THis is Joe’s moment.
Oh Yea, that there question over there was “what’s my Achilles heal?” does that mean “worldview”?
Joe Biden IS the poorest Senator in the Senate right now.
AAAHHH, that’s the ticket!
Wait, Achilles was a heel?
KILLER JOE
hahah blender
Johnny is the 9th richest.
Joe is dang fine on he understands about being a single parent… GOOD for him.
“The notion that as a man I don’t know what it’s like to be a single parent…” Wow. He looked both passionate and a bit angry.
another home run!!
Chokes up! What a great moment. He’s human!
WE LOVE JOE!
Joe just won the debate. Period.
Oh she said maverick.
I didn’t know they made lines that could go down that fast.
She couldn’t read her writing – it’s McKiernan.
Bravo Joe! That’s it! You did it baby. … the understanding… yeah baby
I DETEST LIEberman
Alaska Independence Party independents, Sarah? Want to talk about that tonight?
Boy you can Palinly see she has a radio under the back of her jacket!!
WHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biden just dropped the wonk and showed the father and his heart. And she just looks trivial by contrast!!!!!!!!!!
how many fucking times has she said “maverick”?
Yes, WE LOVE JOE.
She must be out of prepared answers – now she’s reduced to using her own recycled crap.
She is absolutely flailing now.
They’re maverisks
He has been great for the 22 minutes I’ve been watching !
authentic moment from joe then cut to the bullshitter.
i thought he was gonna cry
Yes, we want to look to Lieberman and Romney as examples. *Chokes self*
hmm the guys must be drunk. she has gone and said maverick again
the man we need to leave? Great Freudian slip
My contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.
If anyone was drinking everytime Palin said maverick, they would be dead by now.
Sarah, please….close….the word trap with teeth.
If I’m really nice maybe I will never have to listen to this woman talk again. Good grief – what an idiot.
YES the MAVERIXK
we are NOT GONNA ALLOW…………..oh jeebus
new thread
We’ve not got to allow!
Maverick, Change, Energy, Executive experience Assimilate Assimilate obey the words repeat the words.
Lady nobody is buyin the lies 7 years is enough.
Achilles heel? She thought Gwen was talking about shoes.
Go Joe, go Joe… go about what matters… signed, and now sealed!
consomme maverick prompt up all of us comin’ together got to win the wars change is comin’
dog runs through window
Ewww. She mentions the dispicable as his supporters.
YAY JOE! KILL THE MAVERICK MEME!~!!!
GO JOE GO
Palin has the GOP’er hypocrisy down to a T. Joe is more honest about his current privilege, his past without it, and what the lives of average Americans are like.
McCain as the Maverick. Crap. He’s willingly given up any principle or issues — veterans, torture, electoral reform, responsible spending — to support his personal advancement.
Palin has down the GOP’er meme of describing problems as if the GOP’ers had nothing to do with them. Biden is taking that on. About bloody time.
Palin doesn’t know what an Achilles heel is.
New post
Ponies for all — upstairs
Yes Joe take down the Maverick
JOE IS SMACKIN HER UPSIDE THE HAID
I think he was choking back tears
Now we’re knocking down the “Maverick” label. Go, man!
more word salad from Sarah.
Hang on dear, it’s almost over…
Why not, he made everybody else cry,
Noooooo..a Maverick
My TeeVee is going to get a shoe through it if I hear Mavrik again.
BTW, check at Pendagon today if you want a chuckle about Mavriks…..
Finally! Joe calls Palin on the “maverick” thing! Yay!
I absolutely love him! I cried for my grandmother when Barack picked him, because I know if she was alive today she would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE him.
The maverick crap again. Biden should close that wormhole, Palin slides down everytime she can’t answer a question. How many times has McCain voted with the Chimp? 95%?
She needs to explain why she thinks the “surge is working”. Specifics please. Forget what Scottie McClellan says.
Maverick has been put to rest!! Go Joe GO!
sound bite: He has not been a maverick…
Biden: McCain not a maverick on any of the important issues we face
See ya upstairs….
Good boy, Joe! Kitchen table issues!
Can we have another debate?
Wow. Joe Biden is exceeding not only my expectations, but my hopes.
where? I don’t see it. waist? shoulderblades? tell me!
I am actually quite proud of JOe. He has comported himself really well, perfectly, against a female VP candidate who’s a joke. Not an easy task. well done.
hear, hear
I missed the radio under her back, though now they’re small enough to fit inside the ear. She’s certainly more articulate and more informed than she’s ever been.
I was spellbound. GREAT moment, and GREAT POINT about good fathers.
I loved his copping to having a good income now, but talking in a real natural way about where he came from. Spot on.
Yah me too
lmao
Haven’t heard anything about McCain’s 7 houses, 13 cars and $500 shoes. Just a regular fella. Someone you would want to share a glass of Dom Pernignon with.
Yay! Joe. John McCain is NOT a maverick.
Word trap! Nice.
LMAO! No kidding!
new thread
I’m sick of hearing ALSO.
Joe has been great. Palin has been what everyone expected. The caribou harpie.
GREAT point about not questioning motives, but judgment. Good point.
Sarah is smart enough to give him props on that. Hmmm. She’s better than McCain at this.
I wish she would speak in complete sentences. She is so blessed no doubt. bs bs bs
I have quite a few suggestions for Biden at this point
First, he never should have said he and Obama are eye-to-eye with Palin/McCain on same sex marriage. I believe there is a big difference between fed intervention in same-sex marriage, but still “tolerating gay people” (Palin) and allowing, the “people”, courts and state legislatures to decide .Biden pissed me off on that one. He sounded like a prevaricator.
Why I recommend a basket of rolled-up socks or koosh balls.
Palin/McCain will fight for America just as Bush/Cheney fought for America. What a phony. They actually believe their own bullshit.
Yes, this is frustrating. There are church marriages, and there are civil marriages. He mentioned people’s faith, well churches and what THEY do are not the point.
Palin: We have to work for our freedomssss.
Biden wins! Biden wins!
How he should have framed it. He started off well : same-sex couples deserve the same equality that het couples have under the constitution. Then he we dithered out somewhere, when he said he and Obama were not for gay marriage. He should have reframed the whole stupid-ass divisive question by saying he did not believe that the government should stick its noses in people’s lives and f*ck up their rights by waving around yea old unconstitutional “protect marriage” bullshit when court and state legis decide to allow same-sex unions or marrigae.
Sorry for typos
Holy Crap, I went from CBS having Joe Lie evaluating the debate to NBC having Geraldine Ferraro. I guess that’s their attempt to give the “democratic” perspective.
EPU’d
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! Will she never shut up??
The goal of that was to take out the “Social Conservatives”…notice that he said that he’s glad that Palin “agrees with US”. That’s gonna have the Right Wing heads exploding…he’ and Obama are supposed to be liberals, after all. To have her and McCain (whom most have extreme doubts about) agree with Obama-Biden on gay unions and full Constitutional rights for any union…that’s BIG!
lol.
And speaking of Sponge Bob, Katie Couric dressed up as him for Halloween at least once.
Perhaps Palin and Couric could have a laugh off.