Comments on: VETO is a Four-Letter Word

By: stryder

stryder — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:17:09 +0000

I should rephrase my last sentence @ 48
“NOW they want every US citizen to loan them $3000.00″

It’s more like GIVE me $3000 each{which we will never pay back} or we will see to it that the economy crumbles and you won’t have a fucking dime.All we have to do is stop the banks from lending.We’re gonna get your ssi next and if you organize against us we can have you arrested for just looking the way you do.We’ll introduce you to what terrorism is all about.We own congress and the judicial system so don’t even think of pressuring them for investigations.
Give it up!!

By: Kelpie

Kelpie — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:15:14 +0000

Agree. Let the thing go down.. and we’ll just have to wait 5 weeks while screaming ourselves hoarse as to whose to blame. We’ll have to go that way anyway, as what they want will likely just make things worse.

By: newtonusr

newtonusr — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:18:10 +0000

In spite of greedy fuckers everywhere, reducing the other nations caught up in this to abstractions is faulty. There are families in trouble over here and over there. Families sleeping in their cars in mall parking lots here and pretty soon there, too, if not already. People who walked into banks to borrow to buy homes, not clued-in to the world’s circumstances.

There is no good deal to be had, and it will end badly. The only thing left to do is end it quickly…

…was the point of the piece, I think.

I am not in total agreement with it, but, like all the shit we have spread around the globe recently, we own it.

By: Margot

Margot — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:08:04 +0000

Add single-payer health care. We deserve it, we can’t afford it, and we are citizens, not serfs.

I don’t give a damn if people jump off roofs because their stocks went down. We are a whole country of people who can’t afford to see a doctor! Children die because of abscessed teeth, adults because they can’t afford their diabetic testing supplies or simple doctor visits or medicine.
What is going on here? We are even allowing any bill to see daylight without huge taxes for the rich and provisions for we the people who will bail the rich out: Health Care, bankruptcy reform, housing.
Give it to me. Jesus I swear, people take better care of livestock.

By: Hugh

Hugh — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:07:47 +0000

I don’t understand your comment. The Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel has spoken out in favor of the bailout. Deutsche Bank is one of the big holders of bad paper. Most of the British commentators on BBC have come out in favor of the bailout. I wonder why you think that bankers around the world somehow were exempt from doing the same math that a lot of us did a long time ago.

By: Robin Stelly

Robin Stelly — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:06:53 +0000

Yes – make him veto it. Make the Senate filibuster. What is wrong with the Dems? I can only believe that they are complicit in all of it – from Iraq to FISA to SCHIP to this. We have no allies in power on the Hill.

By: stryder

stryder — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:05:26 +0000

It’s one thing to throw opinions around here but if we could all possibly get together on a plan and try to organize,the feds would be on us in a heart beat.
I’m convinced that the first world trade center bombing was a test run to see the effects it would have on things.These people realized the potential of terrorism as a weapon a long time ago.911 was the implementation of the plan and now you’re seeing the final stages of the coup.

By: Hugh

Hugh — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:58:30 +0000

As I pointed out above the “compromise” bill is the Paulson plan. So PW is mistaken. Democrats are not facing the imposition of that plan. They have already signed off on it.

It is important to remember that the Administration had the Paulson plan for months and only sprang it (as they always do with controversial pieces of legislation) shortly before an adjournment. The housing bubble burst officially more than a year ago on August 9, 2007 with the freezing of activity in the BNP Paribas funds although mortgage lenders had been under considerable strain throughout 2006. So if the Administration had wanted to act in a timely fashion it certainly had the opportunity to do so.

Now as always faced with artificial time constraints the Democrats caved. They accepted without question as PW has that it must be the Paulson plan or no plan. This is only true because they were and are completely unwilling (except for a few like Kucinich) to look at any alternatives. Things do not have to go down this way but they will because the Democrats simply refuse to show leadership or take a stand on anything. Some Democrats did stand against this bill but it was Republican opposition (not Democratic) that defeated the bill the first time around.

By: bayville

bayville — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:55:31 +0000

Thanks, I Love the Lake.

By: TexBetsy

TexBetsy — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:55:03 +0000

PW that you for the post. I am heading to bed soon.
good night firepups.